Offline Marketing - What Would You Do? What Should I Do?

by mak25
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Hi. My name is Mike. I got here just about the same way many of you did. There's only so many roads to get you here, and I was on one of them.

I've gotten a lot of useful info here in the time I've been lurking ;-) Some of it complete, some of it incomplete. More to learn. Thanks all.

So, for this post I thought I would offer this, as my situation is now in crisis mode.

There seems to be a huge buzz about this offline thing. Everyone seems to on the bandwagon with this one.
There are courses coming at you left and right. I know. I got a couple.

This is where I need advice. If you had to start from scratch. Had little or no money. No other choice but to use what you know about offline marketing. What would you offer to get your 'foot in the door'? To get some cash flow ASAP?

Keep in mind the area I'm in is somewhat rural. Meaning: No big towns - a w-h-o-l-e bunch of small towns.

I'm at the point where I H-A-V-E to do something. My brain is fried. Confusion and doubt seem to be setting in.

What would be best way to start out? What would you do?

Thanks
Mike
#advice #marketing #offline
  • Profile picture of the author Marty S
    Not sure what your skill set is, nor do I understand why it has to be offline marketing. But given that lack of information and the understanding that you are in a rural community I would put together a package of 3 different websites and sell them for cheap.

    I gave this exact strategy to a friend of mine and he REALLY used it to get business.

    1- page website $225
    3- page website $375
    5- page website $595 (include Google maps reg with this one, and also a keyword report after 120 days)

    You can make a rather nice presentation using power point to create a sales page.

    Show business owners the package, most will go for the 5 page website. Take all money up front because this is a very special deal - it really is cheap.

    There are a LOT of business owners out there who will see you as a solution to something they have been putting off forever, and for no good reason.

    When you get a sale, take charge by grabbing all their brochures, menus, product lists, photos, logos etc, and create their website using some templates, or outsource the project to elance. Basically - get it done, but get their approval at creative intervals.

    Rural, small business owners will be thinking small, and you can use this to your advantage. Keep the sites simple, no flash or anything, and set them up an email account too with GMail so you can set them up a free contact form using wufoo.com

    Now if you do all the work yourself, that is fine, but really you are not going to be making much on an hourly basis if you do not outsource. Thats up to you, but if you can sell, then spend your time selling. Think like a contractor.

    The real money comes a few months down the road when you go back and show the business owner's their lame traffic counts and explain how you can solve that problem using the keyword data to date and some more research. Someone who is willing to advertise (traditional) will be willing to spend $500 per month for 3-6 months and let you start getting them traffic to their website.

    Small steps. Get in the door, get them online, then let them know how they can improve. Real money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacer
      Selling websites for $500 a pop sucks. I know, cause I started out doing that. After banging my head against the wall for a couple months, I got some help, and saw the light. My entry level package now is $1500, and there is no end to available work.

      The best advise I can give you is to NOT sell websites. Instead, sell lead generation. This is the classic selling the "benefit", not the feature. A website is just the tool that is used to get an owner more business. Talk to the prospects in terms of more customers through the door and increasing sales. You will find it easier to get both more consultations and a higher close rate.

      Another thing I would suggest is building residual income. Say you want to make $5000 per month. It is much easier to find 10 clients, get a nice chunk of upfront fees, then have them paying $500 per month, than trying to sell $5000 of new client work each month. Trust me

      To generate residual income, I would suggest offering a marketing package, instead of just web design, and do it right off the bat. It does not have to be complicated. Basic SEO, creating videos, and building around the google local listings are easy and are good places to start.

      Remember, the focus is to drive leads and increase business for the client. If you can give them a proven marketing system, and show them it generates leads, in no time they will start shifting more of their ad budget your way.
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      • Profile picture of the author Marty S
        Originally Posted by Jacer View Post

        The best advise I can give you is to NOT sell websites. Instead, sell lead generation. This is the classic selling the "benefit", not the feature. A website is just the tool that is used to get an owner more business. Talk to the prospects in terms of more customers through the door and increasing sales. You will find it easier to get both more consultations and a higher close rate.
        The problem with this, and maybe you missed it in the OP is that he is dealing with a limited rural market and presumably small town mentality. Jumping in from the get-go with a lead generation program is likely to fail. He can do that later. He needs money now, and selling websites CAN easily start a bankroll, a portfolio, and future leads to other business.

        And yes I agree this is the low end of the income scale, but the plan is to come back and sell more, when his customers actually understand more about the entire process.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jacer
          Originally Posted by Marty S View Post

          The problem with this, and maybe you missed it in the OP is that he is dealing with a limited rural market and presumably small town mentality. Jumping in from the get-go with a lead generation program is likely to fail. He can do that later. He needs money now, and selling websites CAN easily start a bankroll, a portfolio, and future leads to other business.

          And yes I agree this is the low end of the income scale, but the plan is to come back and sell more, when his customers actually understand more about the entire process.
          The only thing that limits a person is their self confidence. I bet he lives in a bigger town than me There are ways to get around the "small town" excuse (i.e. going to a larger city). I personally know someone who makes 6 figures and lives in a town of less than 5,000.
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        • Profile picture of the author Marty S
          Originally Posted by healymedia View Post

          This could also potentially backfire.

          If he's in a limited rural market with a limited number of potential customers, and he goes through and sells them all 5 page websites, and they don't see the results they expected, he may have just completely dried up his potential customer base.

          Let's be realistic, a simple 5 page site made for $500 without any solid ongoing SEO work, any local business listings, etc, etc, isn't going to get much traffic.
          Sell 10 websites, come back later and 5 will have more SEO work for him. That's been my experience anyhow.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kelly Verge
        Originally Posted by Jacer View Post

        Selling websites for $500 a pop sucks. I know, cause I started out doing that. After banging my head against the wall for a couple months, I got some help, and saw the light. My entry level package now is $1500, and there is no end to available work.

        The best advise I can give you is to NOT sell websites. Instead, sell lead generation. This is the classic selling the "benefit", not the feature. A website is just the tool that is used to get an owner more business. Talk to the prospects in terms of more customers through the door and increasing sales. You will find it easier to get both more consultations and a higher close rate.

        Another thing I would suggest is building residual income. Say you want to make $5000 per month. It is much easier to find 10 clients, get a nice chunk of upfront fees, then have them paying $500 per month, than trying to sell $5000 of new client work each month. Trust me

        To generate residual income, I would suggest offering a marketing package, instead of just web design, and do it right off the bat. It does not have to be complicated. Basic SEO, creating videos, and building around the google local listings are easy and are good places to start.

        Remember, the focus is to drive leads and increase business for the client. If you can give them a proven marketing system, and show them it generates leads, in no time they will start shifting more of their ad budget your way.
        Rock-solid post.

        One thing I'd add for the OP is in addition to "lead generation" as a benefit, you can use "customer retention" and "increased lifetime customer value." Even in a smaller town, these two things can increase profits for a business - regardless of the number of "new" customers for a business to reach.

        Customer retention = relationships. There are LOTS of online vehicles for this.

        Lifetime customer value can be increased through upsells, downsells, and any vehicle that drives repeat business (coupons, sales, etc.).
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  • Profile picture of the author TheKeys
    The man thing is don't just stop at selling them a website.. a few months down the road offer them advanced SEO techniques which will sky rocket there success.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jimian
    Mike,

    What industry or field are you familiar with?
    Roofers?
    Dentists?
    Carpenters?
    Attorneys?

    In other words, who's the easiest for you to talk to?

    I would focus on them. I found using postcards really helped me get "IN".


    ~ JIM
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    • Originally Posted by Jimian View Post

      Mike,

      What industry or field are you familiar with?
      Roofers?
      Dentists?
      Carpenters?
      Attorneys?

      In other words, who's the easiest for you to talk to?

      I would focus on them. I found using postcards really helped me get "IN".

      For more, see my signature links.

      ~ JIM
      How many postcards do send out in a mailing?
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      • Profile picture of the author Jimian
        Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery View Post

        How many postcards do send out in a mailing?
        That's just it... I don't do the typical "batch" mailings.

        It's done gradually, only a few at a time each day, but to highly targeted prospects -- and without leaving the house to 'mail' them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lou Diamond
    Hello,
    this is what many people have done to get the ball rolling for offline marketing:
    you can make a web page directory for your home town and then sell advertising and make up web pages and coupons and special sales for the local merchants.
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  • Profile picture of the author lionstarmedia
    Offline marketing, just look for a niche and follow through with it. And follow your passion. If you enjoy what you do you will be successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Moser
    I would start emailing all the businesses found in your local Google search results and offer them a free consultation. Even in a small town I'm sure you'll find websites that could use help. For every 100 emails and you'll generally get one or two interested prospects. Tell them the jist of what you can do in your 2nd email and offer to give them a call if they want to know more. Get their phone # and call them up!

    That's what I've done...
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  • Profile picture of the author DogScout
    Read this thread 5 times: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...huiWDQo1KC6cF8
    pay special attention to post 946
    Find a business that needs those items (or most of them)
    You can usually tell just by how they answer the phone
    implement the other strategies in the thread and you're in biz
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  • Profile picture of the author jsherloc
    I whole-heartedly agree with what Jacer posted, specifically the part about NOT simply offering websites only. In your small towns, I'm sure some have websites (probably nonperforming/zero seo/miserable ugly etc ones at that). SO at some point they at least thought being on the "interwebsnet" was a good thing. I've often found it way easier to build my own properties than working with their current sites most of the time too. Don't spend a lifetime trying to revive something if it there's no hope! Also, Wordpress is your friend!

    I'd recommend the "lead generation" angle most of the time as well too. Go for organic listing domination (should honesly be quick in smaller areas). There's probably no need for PPC if there's not much competition and if you can rank quick organically with ease. Which means visible results for your client and new business (hopefully).

    Go for the high-transaction-value businesses if at possible too. Small businesses in rural towns can be a VERY tough sell in a lot of ways, but a lead is worth more to a real estate agent or an attorney than a donut shop. Just food for thought.

    Even in rural USA, these people are getting pitched left and right. I've noticed a lot of national SEO companies are targeting these small town business owners MUCH more than they used to. They'll love the fact that you're "local".
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  • Profile picture of the author richgrad
    Place an ad on your local paper about a free talk you're giving on the subject matter that your prospects is interested in.

    Make sure the offer is irresistible... eg In 3 hours, I'm going to train you on (what your prospect is interested in) that will help you to (solve a problem they are facing) for FREE

    Make sure you give lots of value in your talk... build up your credibility first using case studies or other credentials. Don't be afraid to give them tips that they can implement straight away and see results with

    Have an upsell in place at the end of the talk... at the minimum, have them opt-in to receive more information from you (so you can follow up with them)

    Rinse and repeat
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  • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
    If I was faced with your predicament, I'd go one of two ways;

    Build a local portal website, as others have suggested, and advertise it offline.
    You could offer free short term placements for businesses who allow you to drop
    leaflets for their customers to pick up. Once traffic has built, you can then think
    about monetisation. Renting out individual keyword based pages could be one
    option, as you'll have server stats to show how much traffic each page gets.

    The other option I'd consider is building a vertical niche directory. A directory
    just for dentists in your catchment area. Similar business model as above, renting
    out keyword based pages, using your server stats to show how much traffic they
    get, and pricing your packages accordingly.

    A word on server stats. They might show keywords people have used to find your
    site for pages that don't exist. I'd be inclined to use them as cues for future
    development.

    The advantages of these kinds of models is that you're only promoting one site,
    you're not getting backlinks etc. for a number of sites. This could lead to further
    consulting work further down the road.

    HTH

    Glenn
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Originally Posted by mak25 View Post

    Hi. My name is Mike. I got here just about the same way many of you did. There's only so many roads to get you here, and I was on one of them.

    I've gotten a lot of useful info here in the time I've been lurking ;-) Some of it complete, some of it incomplete. More to learn. Thanks all.

    So, for this post I thought I would offer this, as my situation is now in crisis mode.

    There seems to be a huge buzz about this offline thing. Everyone seems to on the bandwagon with this one.
    There are courses coming at you left and right. I know. I got a couple.

    This is where I need advice. If you had to start from scratch. Had little or no money. No other choice but to use what you know about offline marketing. What would you offer to get your 'foot in the door'? To get some cash flow ASAP?

    Keep in mind the area I'm in is somewhat rural. Meaning: No big towns - a w-h-o-l-e bunch of small towns.

    I'm at the point where I H-A-V-E to do something. My brain is fried. Confusion and doubt seem to be setting in.

    What would be best way to start out? What would you do?

    Thanks
    Mike
    If you've got an offline business, I would start my putting out small classifieds in magazines and start doing some networking. Word of mouth is key for you here.

    I'm not really sure what you sell or what you offer, but if you have no money at all for advertizing then word of mouth is probably your best bet here, coupled with some small magazine/newspaper ads.

    Nick
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  • Profile picture of the author skyward
    Great thread, thanks! I had the same questions as the OP.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Baker
    I've had a lot of experience with offline businesses.

    They are too busy running their business and want "done for you" solutions - that is, say yes to you, you give them what they want fully operational and making them money and they give you a cheque.

    Simple and painless for them is the trick.

    Steve
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    I have been marketing offline for 2 years now with San Diego Internet Marketing | Business Marketing Online - My Business Marketing
    I charge $1,500 to $2,500 per month, per client. You can see a breakdown of services on link above. I get most my clients from Business Mixers, Chamber of Commerce and breakfast clubs like LeTip or BNI. Good luck...
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