Unique Way To Contact Business Owners..."The Idea Came While Sitting On The Pot"

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So your perusing the Google search results for potential clients who need a new site because their site sucks balls!

So what to do is...find the following.

1. Site must suck balls!
2. Site must not have any type of opt-in form.
3. Site must have somewhere on it an email address.

Once you find the target site what do you do?

Simple, log into your Aweber account and....

1. Create a quick form with a TEXT BOX area.
2. In the form setting enter in the sites contact email address under the notifications settings. This will ensure that a notice of a new subscriber will be sent to the email address.

3. Create a hidden page on your blog or site and paste in the Aweber form code.

4. Fill out the form with your email address and name.

5. In the text box area place your message.

Perhaps something like this...

Mr. Business owner, this email could have come from a real visitor to your web site that expressed interest in doing business with your company. However, your site sucks balls and has no way of capturing and retaining any type of visitor information! You have just lost a sale!

Contact me immediately to remedy this problem today!

Once you hit submit the owner will get the notification email and be like, huh? How did he do this! They might even think you hacked their site, in which case your getting a call for sure!

Back to the bathroom to get more ideas!
#business #contact #unique
  • Profile picture of the author Chad Heffelfinger
    I love the thread title more than anything, well the idea was pretty awesome too!

    Seriously, it is a very good idea to get their attention. (And why is it the good ideas always come there?)
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    • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
      Russ is always trying to play gamez with the term "Hangin Paper"

      Russ me boy ... this one is the topper!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Show and Tell is always better then Tell and Show!
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
    Sorry but I dont get it. Am I missing something here?

    Why not just e-mail him directly if he has no clue that you put up the hidden form and contacted him this way in the first place?


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    • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
      Because your actually "USING" the method that the owner is not utilizing to make the whole point.

      While sending an email makes the point it does not DRIVE it HOME in the same why I have suggested above.

      Do, then Teach... it has much more power then teaching and doing.

      Originally Posted by Frank Bruno View Post

      Sorry but I dont get it. Am I missing something here?

      Why not just e-mail him directly if he has no clue that you put up the hidden form and contacted him this way in the first place?


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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    By showing a business owner the exact method of capturing the info like Rus has described, you're not pitching some conceptual idea. You're demonstrating to them how it works.

    Show, don't tell.

    What's not to "get" about that Frank?

    My entire consulting business is based on the idea of lowering a company's cost of customer acquisition.

    In cases where their website is dysfunctional, we try to show them how adding things like opt-in forms, et al, help to capture something in return for the effort they spend in driving traffic to the site.

    What's the point of getting the traffic if you're not going to do anything with it?

    You'd be shocked at how many businesses out there simply don't get this idea.

    I also admit to connecting with the universe when I am on the pot. Someday, they'll probably find me there, slumped over like Elvis.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
      Michael,

      Cincinnati Chile has the same effect on me as well! Its like connecting with the Divine! :p

      Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

      By showing a business owner the exact method of capturing the info like Rus has described, you're not pitching some conceptual idea. You're demonstrating to them how it works.

      Show, don't tell.

      What's not to "get" about that Frank?

      My entire consulting business is based on the idea of lowering a company's cost of customer acquisition.

      In cases where their website is dysfunctional, we try to show them how adding things like opt-in forms, et al, help to capture something in return for the effort they spend in driving traffic to the site.

      What's the point of getting the traffic if you're not going to do anything with it?

      You'd be shocked at how many businesses out there simply don't get this idea.

      I also admit to connecting with the universe when I am on the pot. Someday, they'll probably find me there, slumped over like Elvis.
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  • Profile picture of the author alanborcic
    Rus, this is priceless, great idea
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  • Profile picture of the author Jimian
    Excellent!

    But why not have them directed to a website explaining it all to them in video or
    by photo, step by step.

    Either way, great idea. (Website must suck balls! Ha-ha!)
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    • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
      The idea is to get them to contact you back, if you spill all the beans then you risk them making a judgment in favor of not contacting you.

      Originally Posted by Jimian View Post

      Excellent!

      But why not have them directed to a website explaining it all to them in video or
      by photo, step by step.

      Either way, great idea. (Website must suck balls! Ha-ha!)
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  • Profile picture of the author LasseKohau
    Splendid idea,

    regards LASSE
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  • Profile picture of the author Pete Egeler
    Ah, yes. The "Meditation Library", from which the World's greatest ideas are launched, or flushed into oblivion!

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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Did someone say pot? I connect with the universe on pot too! Wow. Small world!
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    • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
      I said, "While on the pot, not high on pot!" HAHA

      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      Did someone say pot? I connect with the universe on pot too! Wow. Small world!
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      • Profile picture of the author John Durham
        Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

        I said, "While on the pot, not high on pot!" HAHA
        Did I say that out loud... Of course I know what you meant sheeesh...pot...yeah right.

        I picked up what you were laying down Rus, and seriously this is great contribution, sorry we identified alot with the humor. Funny day I guess.
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    • Profile picture of the author robitn4
      Yes, sitting in the meditation lounge does have a way of clearing the.. er.. uh.. mind.

      But I have to ask the question not yet asked... do you really say "your website sucks balls"???

      I mean, what if they designed it themselves or had his kid do it. Might that not cause them to 'make a judgment in favor of not contacting you'?
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      • Profile picture of the author Hugh Thyer
        You're right Tim, best not to insult people.

        Probably even more effective to get on the phone and talk to them.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
        LOL Of course not!!!

        My post was meant to be serious with a little light hearted humor thrown in for good measure!

        Originally Posted by robitn4 View Post

        Yes, sitting in the meditation lounge does have a way of clearing the.. er.. uh.. mind.

        But I have to ask the question not yet asked... do you really say "your website sucks balls"???

        I mean, what if they designed it themselves or had his kid do it. Might that not cause them to 'make a judgment in favor of not contacting you'?
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        • Profile picture of the author MattyD
          Rus - this is awesome. I love how your mind works

          Being different is what sets you apart from the countless drones selling commission based services to business owners all day long. This is a great idea - let me know how it works out!
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        • Profile picture of the author HeyAdMan
          Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

          LOL Of course not!!!

          My post was meant to be serious with a little light hearted humor thrown in for good measure!
          Oh .... NOW you tell me after I have sent several out following your example just knowing you were sincere. Last time I follow an idea conjured up while on pot ... errr, I mean while on THE pot.. LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Solem
    That's one way to get their attention, but if you really want to prove your point, why not just offer them a month's free trial of your amazing autoresponder service?

    Something tells me Aweber might not be too crazy about using their system to spam potential clients
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    • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
      Lets see,

      Website owner clearly displays their email address on their web site. This is a clear invitation for "ANYONE" visiting the site to send them an email. I just thought of a unique way of doing it.

      Its not spam as long as it contains the correct information. For the sake of arguement I will pretend that your referring to UBE.

      PS: Take your dump somewhere else please!

      Originally Posted by Steve Solem View Post

      That's one way to get their attention, but if you really want to prove your point, why not just offer them a month's free trial of your amazing autoresponder service?

      Something tells me Aweber might not be too crazy about using their system to spam potential clients
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve Solem
        Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

        Lets see,

        Website owner clearly displays their email address on their web site. This is a clear invitation for "ANYONE" visiting the site to send them an email. I just thought of a unique way of doing it.

        Its not spam as long as it contains the correct information. For the sake of arguement I will pretend that your referring to UBE.

        PS: Take your dump somewhere else please!
        No need to be so sensitive to an opposing point of view Rus, or for the personal insult, although it was nice of you to edit that out.

        An no, I wasn't referring to UBE. I was referring to the definition used by the people that wrote the CAN-SPAM Act which says
        CAN-SPAM Act doesn't apply just to bulk email. It covers all commercial messages, which the law defines as "any electronic mail message the primary purpose of which is the commercial advertisement or promotion of a commercial product or service
        Now, your chances of getting reported to them or them enforcing the law against you or I may be slim to none, but it only takes a second for a recipient to mark an email from you as "spam" (however they define it) and get you in hot water with your ISP or in this case, ESP.

        Sorry, but those are relationships I wouldn't take a chance with, and I'm sorry you feel I'm dumping on your idea by simply pointing out one of the potential risks.

        But hey - I've always believed that any marketing method is worth testing, so I'd love to hear your results if you want to try this with a hundred prospects.

        Have a great night,

        Steve
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        • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
          Once again, its not spam if the email contains the correct information therefore there is no risk.

          Not really being sensitive, but if your reply doesn't contribute then why reply in the first place.

          Originally Posted by Steve Solem View Post

          No need to be so sensitive to an opposing point of view Rus, or for the personal insult, although it was nice of you to edit that out.

          An no, I wasn't referring to UBE. I was referring to the definition used by the people that wrote the CAN-SPAM Act which says

          Now, your chances of getting reported to them or them enforcing the law against you or I may be slim to none, but it only takes a second for a recipient to mark an email from you as "spam" (however they define it) and get you in hot water with your ISP or in this case, ESP.

          Sorry, but those are relationships I wouldn't take a chance with, and I'm sorry you feel I'm dumping on your idea by simply pointing out one of the potential risks.

          But hey - I've always believed that any marketing method is worth testing, so I'd love to hear your results if you want to try this with a hundred prospects.

          Have a great night,

          Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author JDArchitecture
        Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

        Website owner clearly displays their email address on their web site. This is a clear invitation for "ANYONE" visiting the site to send them an email. I just thought of a unique way of doing it.

        Its not spam as long as it contains the correct information. For the sake of arguement I will pretend that your referring to UBE.
        How is this not email harvesting?

        Not a challenge, just curious.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
          I would not consider this harvesting emails because I don't condone using a bot to scrape web sites.

          You'll notice I said to actually browse for sites that suck, a bot can't tell if a site sucks. Then you have to find a publicly displayed email address on the site.

          A publicly displayed email address is an open invite to send an email, I don't think any one can argue that point. Let the retort's begin!

          Originally Posted by JDArchitecture View Post

          How is this not email harvesting?

          Not a challenge, just curious.
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  • Profile picture of the author MajorNet
    Is the term "sucks balls" appropriate language when communicating with professional business owners?
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    • Profile picture of the author Trivum
      Originally Posted by MajorNet View Post

      Is the term "sucks balls" appropriate language when communicating with professional business owners?
      No. You're going to want to substitute random characters: "sucks #%*&!"
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    • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
      Does the term exaggeration mean anything? Jeez, people are more focused on Sucking balls then the actual message of the post!

      Did you even read the frigg'n thread? Some one asked that already in which I responded.

      Originally Posted by MajorNet View Post

      Is the term "sucks balls" appropriate language when communicating with professional business owners?
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      • Profile picture of the author robitn4
        Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

        Does the term exaggeration mean anything? Jeez, people are more focused on Sucking balls then the actual message of the post!

        Did you even read the frigg'n thread? Some one asked that already in which I responded.
        ROFLMAO! Gotta luv the WF.
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        • Profile picture of the author nikole957
          Originally Posted by robitn4 View Post

          ROFLMAO! Gotta luv the WF.
          Oh .... NOW you tell me after I have sent several out following your example just knowing you were sincere. Last time I follow an idea conjured up while on pot ... errr, I mean while on THE pot.. LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author MajorNet
        Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

        Does the term exaggeration mean anything? Jeez, people are more focused on Sucking balls then the actual message of the post!

        Did you even read the frigg'n thread? Some one asked that already in which I responded.
        Ok, so I shouldn't take you seriously then. I get it now.

        Thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author HeyAdMan
          This thread is hilarious with a bit of wisdom mixed in ... but hilarious none the less.

          Interesting how people take just one part of an idea or concept and spin the whole thing in a different direction.

          We humans are surely a funny breed.

          Thanks for an incredible thought mixed with the humor Russ!
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        • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
          I just got off the pot and laughed my ass off when I read that!

          It took how many post's for it to sink in that you should not have taken me seriously?

          This thread has officially become ball sucking flame bait!

          Originally Posted by MajorNet View Post

          Ok, so I shouldn't take you seriously then. I get it now.

          Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgeO7
    I thought they smoked that stuff... I did not realize you could sit on it too.
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  • Profile picture of the author nelsonbiglar
    Great idea.... i think that type of "Show Don't Tell" idea can be used in alot of different situations to get a message across.

    Maybe for Social Media, SMS Marketing, Google Ranking SEO etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    ? so if i spend all night visiting slim shady adult sites that are crappy (doing market research of course) / i need to find their email and send them a auto responder that says your site sucks balls ?

    / i just need to be clear on this
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    • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
      BINGO!

      You win this thread!

      I am putting this idea into a report and I writing it on toilet paper, you guys can have PRL rights too!

      Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

      ? so if i spend all night visiting slim shady adult sites that are crappy (doing market research of course) / i need to find their email and send them a auto responder that says your site sucks balls ?

      / i just need to be clear on this
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      • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
        Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

        BINGO!

        You win this thread!

        I am putting this idea into a report and I writing it on toilet paper, you guys can have PRL rights too!

        well that makes me feel special / and it is great to see people let thier hair down in fun / and the idea has merrit

        let me share some other ideas then that may help people / take them at your own peril / to give a little sensibility to Rus's thread

        First / selling this whole lead gen or site stuff is not that hard if you pitch things right and i have had the odd few years practice.

        Today on a meet in the city (just returned) with a client who was looking at getting some leads ( he was old school news paper ) / in general discussion we broke the ice with please describe you business / what you do and what it is you would like, the normal chit chat get to know you stuff.

        What I will add here is i had a manila folder / with his name and number clearly printed on the cover ( this has some great i feel important moments for the client ) with a few prepped examples of what we could do for him.

        Without going through all of the chat and at what started out as i have little to no leads is that his only concern was how he would deal with all of the new clients and could i possibly slow this down a little for him if he needed to.

        He made reference to that point several times at the end when handling objections / that alone is great and he was reassured we can slow it down for him should he feel over run.

        That meeting with i will pop the first 50 leads your way at now cost and also a no obligation commitment / if you refer to me some mates if you like the service ( you can swap out the business if need be and re sell the leads to a new player ) sealed the day.

        Now for those looking for leads i just so happened to be at the small business school (funny how i found myself there / must have been a moment on the loo made me think of that) but guess what all of these new bods are encouraged to leave business cards in the foyer ?

        Now not being one to waste an opportunity i now have 26 brand new business to call and see how their new business is going and to see if we can offer them a hand. on a bad day i should be able to convert 25% or more

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  • Profile picture of the author mjming81
    Doh! I'm going to "hafta" read that all again s-l-ow-l-y to make it sink in on every step of the way.
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  • Profile picture of the author danicat
    I took my laptop into the "study" and implimented this just as you said...now all these business owners are somehow offended that I told them they sucked balls! Im so confused, where did i go wrong?! haha! Seriously though, great idea, worth a shot!
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Originally Posted by danicat View Post

      I took my laptop into the "study" and implimented this just as you said...now all these business owners are somehow offended that I told them they sucked balls! Im so confused, where did i go wrong?! haha! Seriously though, great idea, worth a shot!
      You need to be marketing in San Fransisco... thats the prob.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    At least nobody said your idea really stinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author marklucas8
    If you spill all the beans then you risk them making a mind in favor of not contacting you.
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  • Profile picture of the author dremora
    This violates aweber's opt-in service terms. If the customer complains about you for unsolicited email, aweber can freeze your account. You cannot just add them like this, they need to opt-in, this is why it's called an opt-in list.

    It's not worth taking such a risk. i've seen too many cases where marketers signed up random people in their list and got banned from aweber.
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    • Profile picture of the author joshril
      Originally Posted by dremora View Post

      This violates aweber's opt-in service terms. If the customer complains about you for unsolicited email, aweber can freeze your account. You cannot just add them like this, they need to opt-in, this is why it's called an opt-in list.

      It's not worth taking such a risk. i've seen too many cases where marketers signed up random people in their list and got banned from aweber.
      I haven't looked at Aweber's terms regarding this, so I'm not saying this is against or not against Aweber's TOS. In fact, it might not even be covered.

      Unless I'm missing something, Rus is suggesting that you actually opt yourself into the Aweber list. Basically, the business owner gets the message as if it was his opt-in form. Creative approach and the concept of "show then tell" is a good one even if you don't use this tactic.

      But, this is technically different than opting people in without their consent, although again, I'm not certain what's Aweber's official stance is.

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    • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
      Reading comprehension any one?

      I never said I am putting them on a list. I am actually putting MYSELF on my own list which just happens to have their email as one of the notification emails.

      So when I opt in to my list they get the message I want them to see in a unique fashion.

      If it against Awebers terms of service I don't care, I'll do it until I get a warning.

      And I have my own form mail php script anyways so I would not have to use Aweber anyways.

      Originally Posted by dremora View Post

      This violates aweber's opt-in service terms. If the customer complains about you for unsolicited email, aweber can freeze your account. You cannot just add them like this, they need to opt-in, this is why it's called an opt-in list.

      It's not worth taking such a risk. i've seen too many cases where marketers signed up random people in their list and got banned from aweber.
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  • Profile picture of the author FormerWageSlave
    "The Idea Came While Sitting On The Pot"

    I think that just about sums up this thread... NEXT!
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  • Profile picture of the author tonyaphx
    So did this idea work for any of the business owners? If so do tell please
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    Great post, Rus! I have had many moments of inspiration while sitting on the can myself, and sometimes I sit so long on there my legs go numb, lol!

    I think this is a really creative way of getting the business owners to pay attention to what you can offer them, and the great part about this is that you actually have an opt-in form in place on one of your sites that you can immediately show the business owner if they contact you about this!

    So many people here seem to be missing the point of this "show and tell" exercise. By doing it Rus's way, you have everything in place to "show" the prospect if they inquire about your services. It simply wouldn't be the same if you didn't have anything to show them if they call up asking for more information, and you end up having to explain things to them without having anything tangible to point to. By executing this strategy, you have an active opt-in form to show the prospect, and he/she can pretty much visualize what it'd do and how it'd look like on his/her site.

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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

      Great post, Rus! I have had many moments of inspiration while sitting on the can myself, and sometimes I sit so long on there my legs go numb, lol!

      I think this is a really creative way of getting the business owners to pay attention to what you can offer them, and the great part about this is that you actually have an opt-in form in place on one of your sites that you can immediately show the business owner if they contact you about this!

      So many people here seem to be missing the point of this "show and tell" exercise. By doing it Rus's way, you have everything in place to "show" the prospect if they inquire about your services. It simply wouldn't be the same if you didn't have anything to show them if they call up asking for more information, and you end up having to explain things to them without having anything tangible to point to. By executing this strategy, you have an active opt-in form to show the prospect, and he/she can pretty much visualize what it'd do and how it'd look like on his/her site.

      Paul
      Paul,

      I swear to GAAWD! I have had alot of laughs on the warrior forum but this post cracked me up so hard, its the best one ever!!! lol Im still laughing since last night. Yer killin me man!
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      • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
        Like I said, the idea came while I was sitting on the POT! I at no time said I am actually doing this, I don't have time for other things I do online.

        I just thought it was kind of a unique way of getting a business owners attention, kind of setting yourself apart from all the other Joe's.

        Why don't you try it and report back the results?

        Originally Posted by JsamsonNJ View Post

        If we can get back on track I would like to do that. It really appears to be a great idea..

        However I would like to hear from Rus or M Hiles on the execution and how it was met or received.

        I think it is great to share an idea, however I would like to also see what beggining results there were is executed
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  • Profile picture of the author activetrader
    I'd like to see how this works out. Anyone who tries this method, please do tell us about your experience.
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by activetrader View Post

      I'd like to see how this works out. Anyone who tries this method, please do tell us about your experience.
      As with anything, your results may vary and this is a numbers game. If you just "try" this out with one or two businesses, you're probably not going to see any results. Any prospecting that involves sending email will usually require that you contact more businesses (especially in comparison to offline methods) to see results.

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    • Profile picture of the author virginiad
      Your title gave me an idea for a new advertising medium.

      One of the few remaining pieces of paper that are not covered with advertising!
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      • Profile picture of the author CrhisD
        Originally Posted by virginiad View Post

        Your title gave me an idea for a new advertising medium.

        One of the few remaining pieces of paper that are not covered with advertising!
        Why are we still thinking of paper? ink the URL on your hand or something. Cut the logo in your hair
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    • Profile picture of the author JamieSEO
      Wow Rus... you must have listened in on one of my conversations to a client "hello - your site sucks balls - call me back" is my favorite sales pitch

      -> that is usually when my assistant winces and threatens to quit... again...
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      • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
        LOL

        Hello, this call is a rant because your site sucks BALLS!!! Anyways call me back to rectify this situation, have a nice day!

        I wonder really what business owners would think if we actually left those messages.

        Originally Posted by JamieSEO View Post

        Wow Rus... you must have listened in on one of my conversations to a client "hello - your site sucks balls - call me back" is my favorite sales pitch

        -> that is usually when my assistant winces and threatens to quit... again...
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    • Profile picture of the author Dhira
      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      Because your actually "USING" the method that the owner is not utilizing to make the whole point.

      While sending an email makes the point it does not DRIVE it HOME in the same why I have suggested above.

      Do, then Teach... it has much more power then teaching and doing.
      But what is different fro m sending an email.... meaning on THEIR end, how does mr. bizness owner KNOW that he received an autoresponder message as opposed to an email???
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      • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
        Seriously? If you took the time to really read through this thread you would not be asking that question.

        Originally Posted by Dhira View Post

        But what is different fro m sending an email.... meaning on THEIR end, how does mr. bizness owner KNOW that he received an autoresponder message as opposed to an email???
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        • Profile picture of the author Dhira
          Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

          Seriously? If you took the time to really read through this thread you would not be asking that question.
          Uh I did take the time to read the thread, and seriously if you wanted to help and not be a smart ass, you would be answering the question.
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          • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
            Seriously???

            I am not going to answer the question that's already been answered, that's the point!

            This FTW!

            Originally Posted by Dhira View Post

            Uh I did take the time to read the thread, and seriously if you wanted to help and not be a smart ass, you would be answering the question.
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  • Profile picture of the author alanborcic
    Rus, I wanted to implement your great idea but getresponse does not let me enter any other email in FROM field unless it is verified (you enter email address, getresponse sends you confirmation email so you have to confirm you own that email account. Hence I can not use email of owner of web site that suck balls in this scenario.
    Does Aweber or any other auto responder services let you do this?
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    • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
      When setting up your list it should give you a section that lets you put in the email address that notify you that some one has filled out a form. I am not sure about get response but aweber does it for me.

      That is where you put your prospects email address.

      Originally Posted by alanborcic View Post

      Rus, I wanted to implement your great idea but getresponse does not let me enter any other email in FROM field unless it is verified (you enter email address, getresponse sends you confirmation email so you have to confirm you own that email account. Hence I can not use email of owner of web site that suck balls in this scenario.
      Does Aweber or any other auto responder services let you do this?
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  • Profile picture of the author alanborcic
    There is email notification field, but email address has to be verified. It looks that getresponse has strict policy in this matter, thanks anyway
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by alanborcic View Post

      There is email notification field, but email address has to be verified. It looks that getresponse has strict policy in this matter, thanks anyway
      I'm sorry to hear this, it looks like this is an unique situation that applies to Getresponse. I have experimented with Rus's suggestion here on profollow (which is a white label version of Aweber), and I had no issues inserting someone else's email address in the email notification field.

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      • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
        I love this idea.

        Not sure if I have the balls to do it.

        I have one of the old aweber accounts that is locked into double optin and they let me do unlimited subscribers at no additional charge.

        I'd hate them to get peeved off and shut down my account.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
          Its been so long but doesn't Aweber have a free trial?



          Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post

          I love this idea.

          Not sure if I have the balls to do it.

          I have one of the old aweber accounts that is locked into double optin and they let me do unlimited subscribers at no additional charge.

          I'd hate them to get peeved off and shut down my account.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
            Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

            Its been so long but doesn't Aweber have a free trial?
            I believe it's a buck.

            So you're saying set up a second account to do the testing on?
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        • Profile picture of the author paulie888
          Originally Posted by avenuegirl View Post

          I love this idea.

          Not sure if I have the balls to do it.

          I have one of the old aweber accounts that is locked into double optin and they let me do unlimited subscribers at no additional charge.

          I'd hate them to get peeved off and shut down my account.
          Jill, I think you could experiment with a $1 trial Aweber account (since you're afraid of doing something wrong and also because your existing account is locked into double opt-in), and just go to town for 30 days with it to see what sort of response you get from your prospects. If the response is good, it might be worth retaining this second Aweber account set up expressly for this purpose?

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  • Profile picture of the author zavonrayenz
    Why not just e-mail him directly if he has no clue that you put up the hidden form and contacted him this way in the first place?
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  • Profile picture of the author contentment1st
    I keep coming back to this post just for the laughs. Thanks guys. Oh, and by the way, I think this is a great idea. I'm going to use it!
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  • Profile picture of the author tonydbaker
    Ideas are great... but putting them into practice is something else entirely.

    So.... how many leads have you created? How many turned into sales?

    Basically... I can come up with ideas all day long. But before I go telling everybody to try them, it's usually a good idea to do some testing first. Otherwise, people will just think you're the guy with the bad ideas.

    Best of luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
      Not one single lead and ZERO sales so my idea is obviously s.hit. Pun intended.

      Originally Posted by tonydbaker View Post

      Ideas are great... but putting them into practice is something else entirely.

      So.... how many leads have you created? How many turned into sales?

      Basically... I can come up with ideas all day long. But before I go telling everybody to try them, it's usually a good idea to do some testing first. Otherwise, people will just think you're the guy with the bad ideas.

      Best of luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author localdominator
    That is a clever idea. Just want to be careful how you tell the potential customer so that they actually become one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Bell
    wow! this is interesting, I like. Thanks
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    Let's hear some results!
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