Directory Websites = $$$$$

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Have you ever thought about creating directory type websites for local areas and selling ads to local businesses?

Great residual income! $10,000 per year +!

For example, you have 100 local restaurants.

You build a website and give a short review to each one with its own page in a simple wordpress site.

You allow people to post ratings and comments.

You sell ad space for $200 per year and rotate the ads accordingly.

You can drive traffic from SEO and PPC for pennies and create a nice residual income each year!


Do you think this would be a great WSO?

I have an example of this already... Just wondering if I should reveal all!
#$$$$$ #directory #websites
  • Profile picture of the author Slickster
    Do you make $10,000 a year from your directory?
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  • Profile picture of the author deu12000
    There are already WSO's out there about this. The only thing really missing is a good looking directory/portal script included with the WSO (with automation included).
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  • Profile picture of the author truesouth
    Hello warriors,

    I wanted to show this theme, it's great for a directory.

    Geo Places | Templatic


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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Patterson
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    Thanks Fernando! wow all of those directory wso's and no one ever gave us a template or script of a directory site and here you are just giving it away for free!

    And I doubt the OP had a directory that is doing 10,000 dollars per year or he wouldnt be here trying to make a wso and make money..especially when there are already dozens of wso's out there on this subject so the OP is probably a noob.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Solem
    I have seen WSOs about this before (I'm not sure about "dozens") one in particular from "Joblessdad" who seemed to disappear soon after setting up his site and offering a coaching program on how to do this. :confused:

    I think local directories are a great idea and could be used either as a moneymaker by themselves and/or just a great foot in the door in order to sell other services to local businesses. The challenge with charging people is that you need the traffic to justify charging people for listings, and without listings you won't be seeing much traffic - so its usually necessary to offer some number of listings for free.

    Over the years I've looked at probably every option out there for putting together a site, from free to paid services, and never really found one I liked until recently.

    While you can build a basic directory site on your own using just wordpress
    this soon to be released WP theme seems to do just about everything one could want for a local directory site. That Geo Places theme looks nice as well and I'll be checking that out tonight.

    Steve

    P.S. While it's nothing to sneeze at - not sure how many folks would get all excited for 10k a year. Now if you got 100 businesses or restaurants paying you $30 a month for a premium listing - $36k is a decent income.
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  • Profile picture of the author dearkinson
    There are a variety of review sites. Some are user-led sites where readers can send and exchange views, others are commercial sites that offer their reading offers. Some turn to a specific age or interest rate is variable and some media-based sites for newspapers and magazines.
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    • Profile picture of the author Digital Info Diva
      What is going to make your city directory different from all the rest? The
      SERPs are full of local directory results that businesses have never paid
      for. Meaning - they add all the local businesses to their directory as a
      free ad and then try to sell the businesses an upgraded listing, just like
      Yellow Pages.

      Even if you get paying businesses into your directory, you have to have
      a built-in reason for them to renew every year. How will you do that?
      What's the hook to get people to use the directory?

      Food for thought.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bronwyn and Keith
        Hi Diva

        Probably the best way would be to create a couple of different types of listings.

        Standard and featured.

        The featured ones (PAID) would be above the fold and the standard would be scattered throughout the site.

        That way you have a real difference and a real chance at a few $$$$.

        Regards

        Bronwyn and Keith
        Originally Posted by Digital Info Diva View Post

        What is going to make your city directory different from all the rest? The
        SERPs are full of local directory results that businesses have never paid
        for. Meaning - they add all the local businesses to their directory as a
        free ad and then try to sell the businesses an upgraded listing, just like
        Yellow Pages.

        Even if you get paying businesses into your directory, you have to have
        a built-in reason for them to renew every year. How will you do that?
        What's the hook to get people to use the directory?

        Food for thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan Shaw
    we are targeting restaurants because they need the help online and also we can charge them a very low price per month or per year that they all can agree on doing! You can charge more than $200 per year. We will probably charge $350 a year soon per premium listing. Regular listings are free. Picture listings are $99 per year.
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    • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
      Originally Posted by traffictipsnow View Post

      we are targeting restaurants because they need the help online and also we can charge them a very low price per month or per year that they all can agree on doing! You can charge more than $200 per year. We will probably charge $350 a year soon per premium listing. Regular listings are free. Picture listings are $99 per year.
      seems expensive compared to many directories with some meat behind them, but if your getting that for a little run o mill directory, very well done.
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  • Profile picture of the author rdraiss
    This is pretty easy. Build the directory to be targeted to local consumers. Give free basic listings to all local businesses. Invest some money, And send their owners a letter or postcard informing them they have a free basic listing ,but for x amount they can upgrade to the silver plan or for just a few dollars more they can upgrade to the gold plan. Give them a secure web page to go on your site so they can order. After about 2 weeks invest some more money and hire a telemarketer. Have that telemarketer call all local business that you sent out your direct Mail piece to. Have your telemarketer offer them a 10 % discount if they order and pay in full today. One thing I forgot to mention is give away one free premium listing per catorgory , when people are paying for something like this they hate to be "the first" to try. ok next is traffic , cause no matter how good the site is , it's worthless without traffic . First find out what people are searching for in your area . Then with that data do some SEO work to get ranked 1st page, invest in some ppc and also some geo targeted facebook ads. For each premium listing give them the ability to offer coupons, as coupons will also get more traffic in various ways. Also when a business signs up for a premium listing one of the perks should be a free press release , stating they are now A member of your directory , use thier subdomain for your directory in the press release. If the press release is written with keyword rich words and submitted to the proper places, this method will get great rankings and traffic. Now you gave customers and traffic-rinse and repeat. One final note have the directory as one your services (think yellowpages) not just a standalone service. Now stop reading and go do it !
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  • Profile picture of the author WilliamL
    Seems to be an easy task. But I would be interested in more wordpress themes that fit this business.
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  • Profile picture of the author humbledmarket
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    I htink many are already doing this but slightly different. They have their site ranked high on a term and then sell rental spacing to various business. Some person created a detail guide who mentioend it was a spin off of gene's method in the War room...never could really have tell. It's very unique
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  • Profile picture of the author TrafficURL
    I must admit I'm finding it a bit dificult to get interest. I have phoned / emailed close to 100 local companies simply to ask them to approve their listing (hoping they at least look at site) They all state that there are multiple free directory services out there. Anyone got a super closing line, that actually gets the customer to pay for the listing?
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    • Profile picture of the author Digital Traffic
      I would work hard to get the directory listed in the top of the local search results, then just before you approach your potential clients, I would also become the top bidder for that keyword or keywords on Google paid search, and then ask them how many of those free directories are both in the top of the local search results and at the top of the google paid results.

      Get your directory to be listed multiple times on the first page of Google.

      I have websites that are number one in the organic search, number one, two, or three in the 7 box, still working on those, and then listed both at the top and side of google paid search results.

      That gives me four impressions on the first page of the search results.

      Kind of hard to argue with those results.



      Originally Posted by Kevin@FollowMyStartUps View Post

      I must admit I'm finding it a bit dificult to get interest. I have phoned / emailed close to 100 local companies simply to ask them to approve their listing (hoping they at least look at site) They all state that there are multiple free directory services out there. Anyone got a super closing line, that actually gets the customer to pay for the listing?
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Solem
      Originally Posted by Kevin@FollowMyStartUps View Post

      I must admit I'm finding it a bit dificult to get interest. I have phoned / emailed close to 100 local companies simply to ask them to approve their listing (hoping they at least look at site) They all state that there are multiple free directory services out there. Anyone got a super closing line, that actually gets the customer to pay for the listing?
      Like Gail mentioned above, with many existing directories to compete with, you really have to try hard to stand out from the crowd and give people a reason why they should signup with you. You would think since you're offering something free that everyone would jump on board, but chances are they don't see much benefit from being listed on other sites and they don't think that your site would be any different.

      Think of ways you can stand out from the crowd and do something different from what the other sites all do. How about giving them a free video slideshow if they send some photos to you - and upsell them to come out and shoot a real video?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan Shaw
    Kevin, we have been meeting with them in person and showing them how much traffic we have going to the site that they can take advantage of.

    We have been telling them the amount of impressions we get each month which is 400,000 or so on Google PPC.

    Then, we show them the value compared to placing ads in the local papers. Obviously, our prices are MUCH cheaper
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    • Profile picture of the author zoro
      Originally Posted by traffictipsnow View Post

      Kevin, we have been meeting with them in person and showing them how much traffic we have going to the site that they can take advantage of.

      We have been telling them the amount of impressions we get each month which is 400,000 or so on Google PPC.

      Then, we show them the value compared to placing ads in the local papers. Obviously, our prices are MUCH cheaper
      If you're meeting clients in person that's great, but this also requires a lot of your time, somthing I don't have. If one was to target areas away from hometown then another method of contact will be required.

      Perhaps sending them a link to a video that explains all, could be worthwhile doing. What do you think?
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      • Profile picture of the author pappyy3
        Some really good comments here.

        On-line directories do work, but due to the number of these sites, and thus competition for listings, I think $200-300 per year listings will be rare ... unless as others have mentioned you have:

        1. A unique approach, and,
        2. Demonstrated results.

        Most on-line directories (quite good ones with a LOT of traffic) in my area only charge $50 - $100 per year for premium listings. Some even offer lifetime listings for this price

        $$ can be made, but its not as easy as everyone portrays unless you get a business owner who knows nothing about on-line advertising.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bronwyn and Keith
        Hi John

        The video idea has merit.

        Plus you could always put a proven advertising exec onto it and make it there "baby" for a JV split.

        What ever they get above what you want would be a "good day at the office".

        Regards

        Bronwyn and Keith
        Originally Posted by zoro View Post

        If you're meeting clients in person that's great, but this also requires a lot of your time, somthing I don't have. If one was to target areas away from hometown then another method of contact will be required.

        Perhaps sending them a link to a video that explains all, could be worthwhile doing. What do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author truesouth
    Hey,

    I do not speak to my clients about the traffic or SEO. I only offer them a commercial video and a photo gallery. They are fascinated.


    Fernando.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gladiator
    I was also involved with a large group of people doing the local directory thing that cost lots of money and wasted time. I have a few local directories that I never got around promoting! The guru made all the money!

    The directory biz is hard but it might be better to offer free listings and sell Advertising space once you have lots of traffic. You can also offer other services so this could be a starter for you offline biz!

    But with Google Places and other directories it has become very hard! It might be easier to just offer SEO for local search!
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulintheSticks
      Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post

      I was also involved with a large group of people doing the local directory thing that cost lots of money and wasted time. I have a few local directories that I never got around promoting! The guru made all the money!

      The directory biz is hard but it might be better to offer free listings and sell Advertising space once you have lots of traffic. You can also offer other services so this could be a starter for you offline biz!

      But with Google Places and other directories it has become very hard! It might be easier to just offer SEO for local search!
      I signed up for a $1000 directory program like this. Too many unanswered questions and too many things that didn't make sense like those discussed here. Thank God I refunded and now am trying some local search SEO. I'm not in a metro area though so I'm still skeptical about that.
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  • Profile picture of the author JMM
    What I am wondering about is the approach... for the sales process.
    Once you a have site. it' ranks in the search engines decent you get allot of traffic to the site that is about two thirds of what the local newspaper who are charging 200-300 a month for advertising a simple 250x250 Banner.

    To get in the door to speak directly with the owner/ manager, what is your sales process?
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    • Profile picture of the author Digital Info Diva
      Originally Posted by JMM View Post

      What I am wondering about is the approach... for the sales process.
      Once you a have site. it' ranks in the search engines decent you get allot of traffic to the site that is about two thirds of what the local newspaper who are charging 200-300 a month for advertising a simple 250x250 Banner.

      To get in the door to speak directly with the owner/ manager, what is your sales process?
      For sales it would be helpful to use the "Offline Marketing" section. Lots of
      good stuff there on approaching retail businesses.
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      • Profile picture of the author TrafficURL
        I had no luck with the directory process. I emailed (and called) 67 book keepers in Victoria BC and no one wanted or cared for a free listing. My site is #1 when you search "Victoria bookeeper"

        Having said that, 2 companies complained their current websites were not working, and after a consultation, hired me for on-page SEO as well as ongoing SEO monthly promotions.

        My findings then were:
        No luck with a directory approach, Yellow pages and many others already do it.

        I had luck with companies that already had a website, helping them make their websites work.

        The approach I now use is:
        Is your website doing what you want for you? How many leads does it produce monthly?

        The general response is No, my site does nothing, and leads? what do you mean.....

        This opens the door to recommend on-page and off page SEO as well as setting up email captures and analytics.

        Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author David B.
    I bought a directory site from a wso, set it up, ordered post cards & flyes - I asked the person who sold me the directory for more ideas about advertising my coupon directory and the response I got was "....put up your site on as many billboards you can afford in your city. LOL." Not once did he provide a live site thats fully operational with paid advertisers even though I repeatedly asked for a live sample. Wasted $635 dollars total and that was all he could say was LOL....You need to invest thousands to make it work.

    It could work but you will need to invest a lot of time, money and be willing to bare it out for few a years as your site get more recognition and local exposure.
    Only two business were actually interested but all others were not - out of 250.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cathy Duncan
    Yeah Thina, inclusion of all relevant details and data in my opinion will let your audience know its worth and it's good in all terms.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kiboko
    Good topic Ryan. I would like to know more. Unfortunately cant PM u. skype....? just add an 8 to ma us. Thats ma name on skype.

    Originally Posted by Ryan Shaw View Post

    Have you ever thought about creating directory type websites for local areas and selling ads to local businesses?

    Great residual income! $10,000 per year +!

    For example, you have 100 local restaurants.

    You build a website and give a short review to each one with its own page in a simple wordpress site.

    You allow people to post ratings and comments.

    You sell ad space for $200 per year and rotate the ads accordingly.

    You can drive traffic from SEO and PPC for pennies and create a nice residual income each year!


    Do you think this would be a great WSO?

    I have an example of this already... Just wondering if I should reveal all!
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  • Profile picture of the author ormes21
    Looking at this from another perspective, Something I have seen in the past year has been companies that offer people discounts when they eat at local restaurants.

    You can integrate this with the listings idea. When you pitch to your local restaurants, you say we will get more customers to your establishment, when customers show you our loyalty card you have to give them 10% off a meal. This way you can charge to put the local businesses on your website and charge people that live in the local area a yearly fee to get the loyalty card.

    This would work very well in a area where there is a university, you can get a stool on freshers week and advertise to the students. Students like to save money anyway possible. Also all the restaurants in the area are targeting the students.

    Sorry if this is a bit off topic from the thread, but it's a idea my friend had but never took action on it and I thought it was quite good.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    In answer to the OP,

    Yes in fact my sales crew (telemarketing room), sold over 19,000 web pages to small businesses for a directory website and created 5.7 million dollars residual income its first year, at $24.95 per month for a listing, with the first 30 days free.... For a company that used to be called BizOnThe.Net, which was later sold to prodigy for over $800 million dollars.

    All verifiable.

    So yes. I can say for a fact, first hand that directory websites work.

    Yellow pages 360 does the same thing and they charge $79. per month for a listing... so does ATT, they charge $39. per month.

    All of them sell thousands upon thousands of listings per year.

    Interesting that this thread would show at the top of the offline forum up about now...
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  • Profile picture of the author tonyscott
    Local directory sites do work, IF you put a lot of work into them and treat them as a business, not just a website.

    That means building relationships with advertisers and potential advertisers and proving to them that it's a value for money lead generation source.

    We charge from $150pa to $1000pa for a listing, depending largely on the amount of traffic we're likely to generate in the advertising category. It has taken nearly three years to get to that point though and we do have significant rankings and traffic.

    Tony
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