Direct Mail Crash Course

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I have a lot more to add, but there seems to be little interest in this thread?? Which is odd since I see a lot of people asking about direct mail on here.

Please let me know if you want to here more. If not, no need for me to spend more time on this.




Saw another thread about postcards on here. Started writing out a lengthy response and then figured I'd just start a new thread. Was just going to include info on postcards but then decided to include direct mail in general.

In this thread I am going to share some information on using postcards and direct mail. I'll to my best to keep the BS to a minimum.

I'll also update it from time to time. I'll update this first post to make it easy for you to come back to and reference.

So let's get started.


Direct Mail broken down into the basics...

It really comes down to 3 things when using direct mail. They are...

Market - The market you are targeting your message to.
Message -
The message you are sending, the copy.
Media - How you get your message out there (TV, radio, postcard, online, etc.)

(To give credit where credit is due, thank you Dan Kennedy for teaching me this)

Of those 3, what do you think is the most important and why? Seriously, ask yourself this question, come up with your answer, and then continue reading.

The answer is...

1. Market

Without the right market you are dead in the water. Gary Halbert called it the starving crowd. He would ask his students this...

"If you and I both owned a hamburger stand and we were in a contest to see who could sell the most hamburgers, what advantages would you most like to have on your side to help you win?"

As you can imagine the answers ranged from things like...

The lowest prices
Best location
Best buns
Superior meat

Halberts answer: A starving crowd.

Without that, no one would buy any burger. Even if it's in the best location, using the best meat, the best buns, all for the lowest price.

So how does that apply to you? Well obviously the starving crowd is your market. Your FIRST objective is to define your market and define it as specific as possible. The more specific the better.

Which brings me to...

Mailing Lists

There is a mailing list for just about anything out there. You *RENT them. Cost is usually per thousand. When you are looking at mailing lists cost, it is usually stated as $XX/m. The "m" means THOUSAND. For example: $100/m.

*Since you are renting the list, you can only mail to it once. Any additional mailings means you have to pay more money. They seed the list with fake names, so don't try to cheat.

Also, you usually have to rent at least a list of 5,000 names. Although it's worth a try to try and lower that.

To drill down your list you use "Selects". Selects are what you use to target your list by a certain criteria. Examples would be...

Zip, state, county, income, male or female, homeowner, renter, age, etc. You can drill down pretty specific.

Each select adds to the price per thousand. It's a hard pill to swallow when you see the price per thousand going up and up with every select you make. But remember, your list (market) is the most important part of this puzzle. You WANT to drill down as much as possible.

To get the point across, do you think it would be wise to just pick up the phone book and mail to people in that? Hopefully you answered "no".

Why do you think that's a bad idea?

Because your offer won't be targeted to the people you are mailing to.

I always like to use Lamborghini as an example. Let's break it down, follow along.

Let's say you want to market to people in hopes to get them into a Lamborghini dealership to purchase a new Lamborghini....cheapest one is north of $200,000.

What kind of mailing list would you choose? Would your selects be...

Female
Renter
18-25 years old
Subscribes to "O Magazine"
Owns a Prius and Minivan

Stupid, right?

How about...

Male
28-56 years old
$315,000 average income
$2,200,000 average net worth
Subscribes to DuPont Magazine

Looks a little better huh? You can, and probably should, drill the list down even more. But this is just an example to prove a point.

The point is, your first step to any mailing campaign is to define your target market.

When define your target market you can now speak directly to them and use the appropriate media. Which btw, the Lamborghini example, using direct mail may not even be the best media. Again, just an example.

With all that being said, the #1 thing I see people doing wrong when they are marketing is choosing a product or service first and then trying to find someone to sell it to. This is backwards. I'm guilty of this myself.

The right way is to find the "starving crowd" first and then get in front of them with some food.

That's because a poor message sent to the right market is better than a great message sent to the wrong market. Market first!

Think about it. You've probably had someone try and sell you on something you could care less about. No matter how great of a message they use, you aren't going to buy. You're just not interested.

Personal example, I'm a vegetarian. So Omaha Steaks would be wasting a great deal of money marketing to me (they do use direct mail in their marketing efforts). I don't care how many testimonials they send me, how cheap their steak is, how great it supposedly tastes, I'm not going to buy. Devil's Advocate - The ONLY way they MAY get me to buy is to persuade me to buy them as gifts for friends and family.

Ok, hopefully by now you get the point. PICK YOUR MARKET FIRST.


2. Message


Postcards

The ONLY job of your postcard is to get the person reading it to take some form of action. That's it. It's not to sell them anything. It's pretty damn hard to sell something on a small 4x6 postcard. Instead, you are selling the clear call to action.

Notice how I said CLEAR call to action. Most direct mail pieces don't have any call to action let alone a clear one. Look, people are lazy. So unless you tell them EXACTLY what to do and WHY to do it (benefits), they aren't going to do anything. And when people aren't being lazy and are actually busy, the same things applies. Tell them what to do and why to do it.

Why should they visit your website? What's in it for them?

Why should they call your free recorded message? What's in it for them?

Always ask yourself, "What's in it for them?"


Letters

I firmly believe you can sell just about anything with a well written sales letter sent to the right market. I'm not going to get into copywriting in this thread, as that's much too deep of a topic. But I will post some things you cannot leave out of a sales letter.

Headline - Some will say to never use a headline on a "personal" letter. While others will say to always use a headline. The only way to find out what works best is to test.

Clear Call To Action - Already touched on this above. Same thing applies when mailing letters.


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  • Profile picture of the author Vagabond 007
    Saving this just in case. I may use it to keep all of the questions asked in this thread in one spot. I will copy and paste them here along with my answers.

    Which means, ask away! If you have anything you are curious about, ask. Any topics you want me to cover later on when I update this thread, tell me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy James
      I love this thread.

      I am wondering if you could give me an idea. I have a website - fortworthcarrepair.com.

      I have had it for a few months, and, with well over a 1,000 car mechanics, I know that I am sitting on a potential silver mine - with a potential $500 or so up front, and, maybe $100 a month in "hosting fees."

      What would I do?

      How could I use postcard marketing to fix this up?

      Jeremy
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      • Profile picture of the author Vagabond 007
        Originally Posted by Jeremy James View Post

        I love this thread.

        I am wondering if you could give me an idea. I have a website - fortworthcarrepair.com.

        I have had it for a few months, and, with well over a 1,000 car mechanics, I know that I am sitting on a potential silver mine - with a potential $500 or so up front, and, maybe $100 a month in "hosting fees."

        What would I do?

        How could I use postcard marketing to fix this up?

        Jeremy
        Hi Jeremy,

        Do you have a relationship with the 1,000 mechanics? I briefly looked at your site. Did you just list the car mechanics in your area, is that what the site is about? Did each one of them contact you to put their info on your site?

        Not knowing more about the site, for now I'd just suggest "renting out" the banner space at the top. Like a featured mechanic area.
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        • Profile picture of the author zogman
          This is an important part of offline marketing that a lot of people over look.
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          • Profile picture of the author blackstone
            I'm working with a newly opened chiropractor whose father-in-law has been an optometrist for 30 years or so.

            Trying to put an "endorsed mailing" together with the optometrist being the endorser.

            Any thoughts on how to segment the list to find the target market for a chiroin that list?
            Thanks for raising this subject, Gene.

            For those of us in smaller areas, this will be more important than SEO
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  • Profile picture of the author iw433
    Vagabond 007, thank you for your insightful post, keep it coming I am looking to do some mail outs soon.
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    • Profile picture of the author blackstone
      Does anyone have suggestions on selecting the list?
      The above-mentioned chiropractor, since I told him he could get this, wants a "radius list" for 5 miles from his location

      I am on Melissadata snooping around and decided that wasn't the best targeting

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author blackstone
    I must be hallucinating,too because I could have sworn I replied
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    • Profile picture of the author Vagabond 007
      Originally Posted by blackstone View Post

      I'm working with a newly opened chiropractor whose father-in-law has been an optometrist for 30 years or so.

      Trying to put an "endorsed mailing" together with the optometrist being the endorser.

      Any thoughts on how to segment the list to find the target market for a chiroin that list?
      Thanks for raising this subject, Gene.

      For those of us in smaller areas, this will be more important than SEO
      Originally Posted by blackstone View Post

      Does anyone have suggestions on selecting the list?
      The above-mentioned chiropractor, since I told him he could get this, wants a "radius list" for 5 miles from his location

      I am on Melissadata snooping around and decided that wasn't the best targeting

      Thanks
      Hi, I assume your clients end goal is sales/profits, right? Of course it is. Right now I'd go another route before the mailing. Endorsed mailings are great. But I'd probably try something else first. Btw, if you're (or you client) dead set on doing the endorsed mailing, you may consider just mailing it to the current customers of the optometrist. Worth a shot.

      Anyway, I mentioned I'd try something else first. Although your client may put up a fight.

      Have him put on his white doctors coat and go door to door offering "a free evaluation to new customers". I heard Dan Kennedy tell a story like this. Some new doctor did this when he was starting out. It was a huge success.

      Actually, now that I think of it, for the endorsed mailing (you should do it now ), offer free evaluations as a special offer but it's ONLY good for clients of the optometrist.

      You obviously want to word it in a good way. Don't just call it a free evaluation. Give it some name. And make sure you put a value on the service being provided...

      Free X-Rays ($275 value)
      Free New Patient "Is My Back Out Of Whack" Exam ($150 value)
      Free 10 minute consultation after exam ($50 value)

      You get the idea.

      My gf's chiropractor sent out a letter to her a few months ago alerting her that she hasn't been in the office in awhile. It also offered a free new patient exam and x-rays on XX date. I went. Doc did the exam, took the x-rays, scared the s**t out of me saying my back was out of alignment (and showed me the x-rays), then said what he could do to fix it.

      He also told me that there was a quick test (adjustment) that he should do to see if the #5 lumbar would even move.

      That test whacked me :rolleyes: for $40. Twice.

      Haven't been back since, but that letter he sent to my gf (a past customer) got him $80...and in the future another $1,200 or so when I do decide to fix my back.

      Hope that helps.


      Originally Posted by Steve Solem View Post

      Strange....could've swore I posted some comments here last night! :confused:
      Originally Posted by blackstone View Post

      I must be hallucinating,too because I could have sworn I replied
      I saw a few posts last night as well that I don't see now. The WF is, well, never mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joshyybaxx
    Another great post that doesn't seem to bring too much attention.

    IMO you should redo the title to something like "make 40 million dollars in 40 minutes" and watch the kids come running, I've realised that this forum essentially is full of people looking for ways to cover their recent loss of employment or people being lulled into thinking they can get a <insert super car here> without putting in some effort or actually being good at something.

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    • Profile picture of the author Vagabond 007
      Originally Posted by Joshyybaxx View Post

      Another great post that doesn't seem to bring too much attention.

      IMO you should redo the title to something like "make 40 million dollars in 40 minutes" and watch the kids come running,
      Funny how that works huh?

      It amazes me sometimes how some threads get attention and others don't. Oh well, the few who get it will be very successful.

      Originally Posted by Joshyybaxx View Post

      PS - Buy the WSO in Genes sig, you won't regret it.
      I like this advice, haha. Thanks [again] for the kind words.
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  • Profile picture of the author blackstone
    Gene, that is good advice.
    I saw the door to door technique with the white coat by a chiro consultant named Ben Cummings.

    The endorsed mailing may have gone away because of fear of Hippa rules.
    For those not familiar, Hippa is the privacy laws that, among other things, woulld allow my 12 year old daughter to get birth control pills and the doctor can't tell me.

    I have considered these as alternatives.
    1. A bulk post card mailing to carrier routes in a radius of, say, 5 miles, from his office. Cheaper but not personalized.
    2. Purchasing a list of names within a radius or carrier routes.
    3. Picking a specific list of names based on demographics. Problem is he doesn't know who his patient is. He says families with children
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Solem
      Originally Posted by blackstone View Post

      I must be hallucinating,too because I could have sworn I replied
      Yes, you did - at least according to the email notice I saw. :confused:

      Originally Posted by blackstone View Post

      The endorsed mailing may have gone away because of fear of Hippa rules.
      For those not familiar, Hippa is the privacy laws that, among other things, woulld allow my 12 year old daughter to get birth control pills and the doctor can't tell me.

      I have considered these as alternatives.
      1. A bulk post card mailing to carrier routes in a radius of, say, 5 miles, from his office. Cheaper but not personalized.
      2. Purchasing a list of names within a radius or carrier routes.
      3. Picking a specific list of names based on demographics. Problem is he doesn't know who his patient is. He says families with children
      I really don't know how Hippa would factor into this, as I've looked at it before and don't see anything against sharing a patients contact info with someone else, just their personal medical info
      Summary of the HIPAA Privacy Rule
      ...but that assumes the eye dr is giving his list the chiro for him to do the mailing. I don't see how you could have ANY problems if the eye dr prints and mails the letter of endorsement to his patients recommending the chiro.

      In regards to the bulk postcard mailing, if you've got the money to spare I think almost anything is worth testing to see how it works for you, but I also think there are things you can do to help stack the deck in your favor.

      If this dr doesn't know exactly who his ideal client is, can you find out from one of the chiro industry groups who the average chiro client is?

      How about a mailing to the chiro docs patients asking them to refer other people like them to his office? He could offer a free exam certificate to friends of his patients and also possibly compensate them for the referral.

      Are there any health food stores or gyms in the area? I would think people interested in taking care of their health may be more likely to see a chiro than the average person, and maybe you can rent their mailing list or give them flyers to distribute to their clients at the point of sale?

      HTH some,

      Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author blackstone
        I agree with you, fasteasysuccess. Personalization works. As Dale Carnegie said "the sweetest sound a person can hear is their own name".

        Steve, glad we weren't group hallucinating.
        We're in a small area. I mentioned the health club but was told the owner is best friends with another chiro.
        I do have some contact with the Tae Kwon Do school and may see if I can get something there.

        I had a Christmas mailing for his existing patients for referrals as a Christmas gift. He did it but changed everything taking all benefit and emotion out of it.

        He is reluctant to do a free initial consultation although that's how he and I came together.
        He offers them on a very limited basis.
        I'm probably going to work on giving a dvd. It works for a lot of infomercials and other stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author CyberShop2u
    Thanks.. i will try...
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