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Google screws me up so badly

by joe0074
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Hi there,


I rank my customer website on page 1 of Google for both organic search and Google Places.
The website ranks no.2 for organic search and ranks "E" position on Google Places.
Yesterday, the website for organic search that ranks no.2 was disappeared. Meanwhile, the ranking for Google Places was moved up to "A" slot.

The customer just calls me and tells me that he doesn't want to pay a monthly fee for SEO anymore because the website is no longer on page 1 for organic search but he still pays me a monthly fee for Google Places. Damn, I charge him a monthly fee for SEO two times more than Google Places. I don't know what is going on here. Google screws me up so badly. What should I say to customer to keep him paying a monthly fee for SEO ?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
#badly #google #screws
  • Profile picture of the author Creativegirl
    See the other thread about the what's up with Google Places, lots of people are experiencing this.
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  • Profile picture of the author zoro
    I have found that when Google finds 2 the same websites on 1st page it will religate one of them to the back pages. Google usually prefers the local listing over organic.
    Personally I don't waste my time struggling with Google Maps or Places, there's so many other things to offer local businesses.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kirrybows
      Maybe focus on satisfying your customers instead of cheating them out of their money. It's absolutely disgusting to read **** like this where you're blatantly stating that you are no longer providing the service promised to your customer, yet are still asking how to get money from them.

      You need to learn how to do good business to be a good businessman. This means stand by your word and if you tell him that he will pay only if he's on the first page, then do as you said.

      There's a reason why Google says in its guidelines that first page position should never be promised by SEO's. It's people like you who try to squeeze every penny out of customers for giving them nothing, and then they are scared ****less like cats when you try to approach them again with similar services.
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      • Profile picture of the author smwordsmith
        Perhaps a little education for your customer re: how Google works needs to be done (i.e., what some refer to as the 'Google dance').

        Are you working at getting and keeping the website itself on page one? That could be difficult. If the website contains pages of content, I would work on getting each page to rank highly for its keywords.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin AKA Hubcap
          When the Google music stops whoever doesn't have their a** in a chair is SOL.

          Just kidding,

          But I think what smwordsmith said is correct

          Perhaps a little education for your customer re: how Google works needs to be done (i.e., what some refer to as the 'Google dance').
          As you know positions change all the time. The thing is your customer might have checked the site an hour later and the ranking may have returned.

          But I do think you should offer different services that aren't so dependent on an algorithm change (or Google's fairy magic).

          Like Zoro stated

          Personally I don't waste my time struggling with Google Maps or Places, there's so many other things to offer local businesses.
          Use places to get in the front door then show them how to use the web to get what they want which usually is an increase in the bottom line.

          Show them how you can get more prospects and turn more of those prospects into customers.
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  • Profile picture of the author alanborcic
    Originally Posted by joe0074 View Post

    Hi there,


    I rank my customer website on page 1 of Google for both organic search and Google Places.
    The website ranks no.2 for organic search and ranks "E" position on Google Places.
    Yesterday, the website for organic search that ranks no.2 was disappeared. Meanwhile, the ranking for Google Places was moved up to "A" slot.

    The customer just calls me and tells me that he doesn't want to pay a monthly fee for SEO anymore because the website is no longer on page 1 for organic search but he still pays me a monthly fee for Google Places. Damn, I charge him a monthly fee for SEO two times more than Google Places. I don't know what is going on here. Google screws me up so badly. What should I say to customer to keep him paying a monthly fee for SEO ?

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    I think you should change your positioning to show other values you are delivering to your client. You obviously used "1st page of Google" which should never be promised since Google changes rules all the time. My two cents
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  • Profile picture of the author AdBankPro
    It sounds like you did not have an agreement for the "keyword phrases" or search terms you were hired for. Did the keyword have 'local' results?
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    • Profile picture of the author joe0074
      Yes, I did.
      I have an agreement to rank 1 keyword "city + keyword" on page 1 of Google.
      The keyword has "local" results- Google Places.
      Google mixed my client organic results with Google Places.
      Now his website shows on Google Places only. No show on organic results.

      Thanks,

      Originally Posted by AdBankPro View Post

      It sounds like you did not have an agreement for the "keyword phrases" or search terms you were hired for. Did the keyword have 'local' results?
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      • Profile picture of the author jez111
        Hi

        Keeping on charging him the same, SEO has a great factor in google places so your further efforts will assit in keeping him there also suggest that your SEO efforts are the cornerstone of that high Places ranking.

        Spin it around LOL.

        Jez
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        • Profile picture of the author sweetsana
          Originally Posted by jez111 View Post

          Hi

          Keeping on charging him the same, SEO has a great factor in google places so your further efforts will assit in keeping him there also suggest that your SEO efforts are the cornerstone of that high Places ranking.

          Spin it around LOL.

          Jez

          oh not good happening with you
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  • Profile picture of the author sweetsana
    oh it is very sad happening with you .
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