How to find businesses with emails but no website?

13 years ago

You can get them from member listings on
Chamber Of Commerce sites
building contrractors associations
hvac contractors associations
electrical contractors associations
roofing contractors associations
landscape design contractors associations
painting contractors associations
log cabin builders associations
retailers associations
flooring contractors associations

And there is Manta.com

And there is Yellow pages scrapers

And your Yellow Pages book

Plenty to help there.

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Google "lists of contractors"

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Headfirst

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ewenmack

And there is Manta.com

Have you seen the accuracy of Manta data dropping significantly this year?

I used to get owner / manager names from manta but stopped after finding less than 30% accuracy lately.

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Mike McAleer

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Headfirst

Have you seen the accuracy of Manta data dropping significantly this year?

I used to get owner / manager names from manta but stopped after finding less than 30% accuracy lately.

So what do you use now then?

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ewenmack

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Headfirst

Have you seen the accuracy of Manta data dropping significantly this year?

I used to get owner / manager names from manta but stopped after finding less than 30% accuracy lately.

Can't say I have, as I have been using software that gets biz details from other sources.

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Ewen

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Mike McAleer

13 years ago

Alright...Thanks...
I was hoping for an easier way. Like do they actually show the email address on Yellow Pages?

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Derek Salfen

13 years ago

You could try looking in the yellow pages for a chosen niche and just go down the list.

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Mike McAleer

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Derek Salfen

You could try looking in the yellow pages for a chosen niche and just go down the list.

Yes I know that. I was hoping for an easier way to filter no website clients that still have emails

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paulie888

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike McAleer

Yes I know that. I was hoping for an easier way to filter no website clients that still have emails

Mike, I'm sure that there are probably scrapers out there that allow you to extract this information from Google Places. In the past, I've tried looking up businesses on Places and was astonished at the number of listings that did not contain website URLs!

Paul

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SgtBadass

13 years ago

Go to vWorker/Elance/Odesk.

"I need someone to go through the local chamber directory of companies in the city of <city> and find all those that have generic email addresses (like Yahoo, Gmail or Hotmail etc) but do not have their own website."

Link to the chamber directory or whatever directory is the biggest in your city and get quotes.

We just got 1000 businesses for $50.

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Joe Mobley

13 years ago

Excellent idea.

And I thought I was pretty good at thinking up outsourcer projects.

Joe Mobley

Originally Posted by SgtBadass

Go to vWorker/Elance/Odesk.

"I need someone to go through the local chamber directory of companies in the city of <city> and find all those that have generic email addresses (like Yahoo, Gmail or Hotmail etc) but do not have their own website."

Link to the chamber directory or whatever directory is the biggest in your city and get quotes.

We just got 1000 businesses for $50.

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joe0074

13 years ago

I have the same problem here.
It seems like when people don't have a website, they don't have email address either.
I check from yellow pages and Google places. It is hard to find people email address if they don't have a website. I believe there must be a solution for this

Let me know how you work on it.

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Mike McAleer

13 years ago

Originally Posted by joe0074

I have the same problem here.
It seems like when people don't have a website, they don't have email address either.
I check from yellow pages and Google places. It is hard to find people email address if they don't have a website. I believe there must be a solution for this

Let me know how you work on it.

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Alright. I hired someone on Odesk. I will see how it works out. $2.50 for 50 email addresses haha!

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joe0074 13 years ago

Thanks.
Please post your update/results soon.
I'm curious to know how it works

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Alright. I hired someone on Odesk. I will see how it works out. $2.50 for 50 email addresses haha!
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paulie888

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike McAleer

Alright. I hired someone on Odesk. I will see how it works out. $2.50 for 50 email addresses haha!

Mike, that's an amazing bargain! Where will your worker be sourcing these email addresses from? Are you having him target specific professions/industries? I've tried doing this manually myself in the past, and sometimes it can take up to an hour or even longer to get 50 email addresses, depending on the location and industry (sometimes you have to wade through a lot of listings before you can get 50 email addresses of businesses that do not have websites!)

Please report back on the results you get with your worker!

Paul

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Mike McAleer

13 years ago

Originally Posted by paulie888

Mike, that's an amazing bargain! Where will your worker be sourcing these email addresses from? Are you having him target specific professions/industries? I've tried doing this manually myself in the past, and sometimes it can take up to an hour or even longer to get 50 email addresses, depending on the location and industry (sometimes you have to wade through a lot of listings before you can get 50 email addresses of businesses that do not have websites!)

Please report back on the results you get with your worker!

Paul

It went well Paulie. Really good results and I will probably hire her for more in the future.

I am now looking into phone numbers as I might try cold calling.

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ewenmack 13 years ago

Originally Posted by paulie888

In the past, I've tried looking up businesses on Places and was astonished at the number of listings that did not contain website URLs!

Paul

I got a phone call last week from a woman wanting a quote.

I said I no longer in that business as I had sold out.

I asked her how she found out about me, and said internet
and I was the first listing.

I thought that was weird because I had no website for it.

Went and checked it out, sure enough I was #1 on Google and Local.

I had forgotten I had listed it with Google Local.

I am ahead of others with websites.

So yeah, there are plenty in Google and Yahoo local listings
without websites and have their emails listed.

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Ewen
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Mike McAleer

13 years ago

Thanks for the help. Looks like I will either have to outsource this or do a lot of work myself.

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Blase 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike McAleer

Thanks for the help. Looks like I will either have to outsource this or do a lot of work myself.

If time is a problem and you have the money
why not just avoid all of the crap with out sourcing
and go to info usa and buy all of the business emails
you want?
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- Mike McAleer 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Blase
  
  If time is a problem and you have the money
  why not just avoid all of the crap with out sourcing
  and go to info usa and buy all of the business emails
  you want?
  
  Good idea. already outsourced though
  
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davechan

13 years ago

Hire a coder from rentacoder or guru, etc. to write you a script that will scrape email addresses from the online yellow pages. We've done this before. It's not always 100%, but it's a great starting point. Shouldn't cost you more than $100.

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iAmNameLess

13 years ago

Mike,

I think if you would start cold calling, you will at least triple your income. For very basic web design, and google places, if you need a very large sum of money, you can do that by cold calling.

If you're making a grand a week now.. you can make 4K+ with cold calling.

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Acumen

13 years ago

These are good methods to find businesses that may need website building services.

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minisite

13 years ago

I think it would be better if you actually go to the store and ask the owner if they have a functioning website or if they need a website. If they don't have a website tell them how important it is to have their business online because they can reach many more potential customers who are not aware of their brick-and-mortar store. If you grab their interest, propose your domain and tell them the real benefit of having a really good domain name when it comes to a website.

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becks

13 years ago

Minisite, that is the best idea, however I agree with the previous posts and like to send something first. It kind of warms up the prospect so that when you do walk in the door it isn't so cold.

The only thing is, I prefer snail mail when doing so. I know that here is a lot of junk in it as there is spam in one's email, but there is something about an actual letter that seems more substantial. In fact, I have been very successful when we have attached a dollar bill to that letter.

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Mike McAleer

13 years ago

Originally Posted by becks

Minisite, that is the best idea, however I agree with the previous posts and like to send something first. It kind of warms up the prospect so that when you do walk in the door it isn't so cold.

The only thing is, I prefer snail mail when doing so. I know that here is a lot of junk in it as there is spam in one's email, but there is something about an actual letter that seems more substantial. In fact, I have been very successful when we have attached a dollar bill to that letter.

Haha that sounds good! Adding a dollar bill to the letter. Might increase your costs but worth a hefty contract.

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Mike McAleer 13 years ago

Originally Posted by sotharith

I think website is the best way to find your business.

I am looking for businesses w/o websites
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- GlobalMedia 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Mike McAleer
  
  I am looking for businesses w/o websites
  
  There are lots of options by which you can make money without a website. You may sell your services like content creation and other seo services. I know people who have got good result from the same.
  
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bebsicles

13 years ago

I thought we can only get the personal information of all business owners through their website. So you are being number 1 in the list without a site? I thought its not possible. Thats great. If you really want a business w/o a site, you can do a lot of research.

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Mike McAleer

13 years ago

Originally Posted by bebsicles

I thought we can only get the personal information of all business owners through their website. So you are being number 1 in the list without a site? I thought its not possible. Thats great. If you really want a business w/o a site, you can do a lot of research.

I am trying to find clients to build a site for

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Mike McAleer

13 years ago

I meant /I am looking for businesses who do not have a website.

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centextkt

13 years ago

Watch the video with this WSO:

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ited-time.html

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Mike McAleer 13 years ago

Originally Posted by centextkt

Watch the video with this WSO:

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ited-time.html

Thanks a lot I have actually discovered that recently myself! Looks great!
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John Pawlett

13 years ago

There are a couple of scrapers on this forum that do what you want (ie: get emails of people that don't have websites), the simplest is Richard Goldie's here http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-100-sold.html I believe it's only $7.

The other that I would recommend is Russ Hayes here http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...er-2011-a.html at $197 but it does a ton more stuff.

Hope this helps

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Mike McAleer

13 years ago

Originally Posted by John Pawlett

There are a couple of scrapers on this forum that do what you want (ie: get emails of people that don't have websites), the simplest is Richard Goldie's here http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-100-sold.html I believe it's only $7.

The other that I would recommend is Russ Hayes here http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...er-2011-a.html at $197 but it does a ton more stuff.

Hope this helps

John

WOW, exactly what I was looking for. I needed a solution to provide me with businesses that have email addresses but no websites. This makes it so much easier now! Thanks a lot!
I will definitely go pick this up right now!

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joe0074

13 years ago

I try the software from Richard Goldie before but it doesn't work well. I can't scrape emails from businesses that don't have websites at all. I don't get the same results as shown in his video

The bottom line is if business doesn't have a website, it is rarely we can find (personal) email address from the owner.

Any advice to find email from businesses but no websites ? I want to offer website design to these business.

Thanks,

Originally Posted by John Pawlett

There are a couple of scrapers on this forum that do what you want (ie: get emails of people that don't have websites), the simplest is Richard Goldie's here http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-100-sold.html I believe it's only $7.

The other that I would recommend is Russ Hayes here http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...er-2011-a.html at $197 but it does a ton more stuff.

Hope this helps

John

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Mike McAleer

13 years ago

Originally Posted by joe0074

I try the software from Richard Goldie before but it doesn't work well. I can't scrape emails from businesses that don't have websites at all. I don't get the same results as shown in his video

The bottom line is if business doesn't have a website, it is rarely we can find (personal) email address from the owner.

Any advice to find email from businesses but no websites ? I want to offer website design to these business.

Thanks,

I have tried this but looks like you just are going to have to do some cold calling. This is going to be the best way to do it.

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joe0074

13 years ago

Hi Mike

I agree.
Cold calling is a surefire way to work with business with no website.
However, I hate cold calling so much. What should I do?
Can I outsource cold calling with commission per sale ?
Where can I find cold caller? from odesk.com ?

Thanks,

Originally Posted by Mike McAleer

I have tried this but looks like you just are going to have to do some cold calling. This is going to be the best way to do it.

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Mike McAleer

13 years ago

Originally Posted by joe0074

Hi Mike

I agree.
Cold calling is a surefire way to work with business with no website.
However, I hate cold calling so much. What should I do?
Can I outsource cold calling with commission per sale ?
Where can I find cold caller? from odesk.com ?

Thanks,

I have tried Odesk and only got one reply. Try it for yourself though. I am not sure as to where to find commissioned based sales people. Perhaps craigslist!

Otherwise, if you have the time, learn to cold call. Even though you hate it, you will get used to it and you will make money.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by joe0074

The bottom line is if business doesn't have a website, it is rarely we can find (personal) email address from the owner.

Any advice to find email from businesses but no websites ? I want to offer website design to these business.

Thanks,

Not, a fast way by any means, but I live in suburb, so I've started looking for business cards on the counters of places I go, I'm finding many that have a generic email address with no website. I then go home and make sure they don't have a website and so far when they have a card without a website it's because they don't have one.

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John Pawlett

13 years ago

Originally Posted by joe0074

I try the software from Richard Goldie before but it doesn't work well. I can't scrape emails from businesses that don't have websites at all. I don't get the same results as shown in his video.

Hi Joe

You should PM Richard about that, I know there has been an update in the last few days which might solve any problems you have with it.

John

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