Interested on SMS marketing ? Let's build The best voice & sms apps.

by adlene
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Hello,

Seems there are a lot of sms and mobile marketing threads here lately people are asking and looking for the perfect solution some asking about
White Label SMS vs. 3rd Party SMS , short codes vs local number ..etc .

why not we all brain storm share and build the best and perfect SMS platform using twilio API , This is not a fund raising thread instead this is a thread where every one post Ideas, features ..etc that are powerful for any voice and sms system .

If you are a coder you can code the system if not hire a coder at odesk or whatever suits your needs and budget , for now all we need is the perfect solution to build using twilio API.

thank you
#apps #build #interested #marketing #sms #voice
  • Profile picture of the author jpeguero
    Originally Posted by adlene View Post

    Hello,

    Seems there are a lot of sms and mobile marketing threads here lately people are asking and looking for the perfect solution some asking about
    White Label SMS vs. 3rd Party SMS , short codes vs local number ..etc .

    why not we all brain storm share and build the best and perfect SMS platform using twilio API , This is not a fund raising thread instead this is a thread where every one post Ideas, features ..etc that are powerful for any voice and sms system .

    If you are a coder you can code the system if not hire a coder at odesk or whatever suits your needs and budget , for now all we need is the perfect solution to build using twilio API.

    thank you
    Twilio API can't be the perfect solution at this time becuase the world is a lot larger than the USA. Twilio does not even covers USA territory such as the US Virgin Island. Probably , the " Perfect" solution in the USA.

    Maybe.

    Thanks

    Juan
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    • Profile picture of the author adlene
      Originally Posted by jpeguero View Post

      Twilio API can't be the perfect solution at this time becuase the world is a lot larger than the USA. Twilio does not even covers USA territory such as the US Virgin Island. Probably , the " Perfect" solution in the USA.

      Maybe.

      Thanks

      Juan
      Sorry to hear that but twilio API still the best sms and voice apps available today , they are launching the short code numbers along with local virtual numbers very soon so they might have plans for the us virgin island and the rest of the world.
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      • Profile picture of the author EvanaStark
        Subscribed to this topic. Seems interesting.
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        • Profile picture of the author adlene
          Originally Posted by EvanaStark View Post

          Subscribed to this topic. Seems interesting.
          Yes would be very interesting if knowledgeable warriors of sms systems come in and contribute .
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      • Profile picture of the author jpeguero
        Originally Posted by adlene View Post

        Sorry to hear that but twilio API still the best sms and voice apps available today , they are launching the short code numbers along with local virtual numbers very soon so they might have plans for the us virgin island and the rest of the world.
        INTERNATIONAL ! Is what we're talking about.

        The example of the Virgin Island is just to illustrate the fact that they don't even covered all the US territory. They have a long long long way to go to be " Perfect" . BTW. This is just not my opinion. Check their own developer forum.

        Thx,

        Juan
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  • Profile picture of the author TWalker
    Number one on my list:

    Integration into Wordpress

    This should be easy just look at sendshortydotcom

    It should be open source and be a simple plug in.

    Each customer gets their own login on the same site (yours)

    No need to install WP each time. Your service should revolve around your site. In other words you are the 3rd party site now.

    If I were a good PHP guy I would get it done in a day. I don't think it hard as Twilio is designed to do this kind of thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author adlene
      Originally Posted by TWalker View Post

      Number one on my list:

      Integration into Wordpress

      This should be easy just look at sendshortydotcom

      It should be open source and be a simple plug in.

      Each customer gets their own login on the same site (yours)

      No need to install WP each time. Your service should revolve around your site. In other words you are the 3rd party site now.

      If I were a good PHP guy I would get it done in a day. I don't think it hard as Twilio is designed to do this kind of thing.
      Great contribution thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author SirThomas
    I say, we try to find a coder who can do everything for us. We put money together, decide what we want and when it's done, we own whole system with plugins...


    Thomas
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    • Profile picture of the author adlene
      Originally Posted by SirThomas View Post

      I say, we try to find a coder who can do everything for us. We put money together, decide what we want and when it's done, we own whole system with plugins...


      Thomas
      that's could be an option to reduce the costs for an individual. still the main objective of this thread is to contribute with idea's , features,...etc I hope more contributors come in and add value to the thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author FreeBird85
    I've programmed my own system with PHP, not a problem at all. It's good to see people brainstorming ideas.
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    • Profile picture of the author adlene
      Originally Posted by FreeBird85 View Post

      I've programmed my own system with PHP, not a problem at all. It's good to see people brainstorming ideas.
      would be great if you tell us what features, plug-ins, did you implemented on your system , is it pure sms system or have voice features ?

      thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    My lead developer wrote an entire SMS management app that frontends Twilio. It allows our clients to manage their own campaigns, or we can manage them for them. Easy peasy.
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    • Profile picture of the author winston
      For those of you that keep telling everyone in several threads that you have built your own platforms. Are you going to offer your solution or are your just teasing everyone.
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      • Profile picture of the author adlene
        Originally Posted by winston View Post

        For those of you that keep telling everyone in several threads that you have built your own platforms. Are you going to offer your solution or are your just teasing everyone.
        I agree with you it looks like it . I'm not a coder nor a pro offliner just thought warriors will contribute to this thread to create one of its kind system at least on the papers the rest is up to every one to hire a coder as individual or as group to reduce the costs.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
        Originally Posted by winston View Post

        For those of you that keep telling everyone in several threads that you have built your own platforms. Are you going to offer your solution or are your just teasing everyone.
        My lead developer is looking at the possibility of coding a white label product based on our platform, but if we go that route it will be months of development before anything is offered.
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    • Profile picture of the author scarab
      maybe even drop the name of your developer. I am talking to one now but have not seen his work on this specific subject and at the moment I cannot afford his asking price.

      It would be nice and great karma if those that have could take a moment and do other Warriors a 'solid' in this area.

      There is more than enough of a market for all of us to make it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tim Dini
      Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly View Post

      My lead developer wrote an entire SMS management app that frontends Twilio. It allows our clients to manage their own campaigns, or we can manage them for them. Easy peasy.
      Good for you Steve! If your solution is robust enough, I know of a few software company's that are looking to integrate SMS into their customer management modules.

      I like to learn more about your app.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Moreno
    What features are you looking for in particular?

    Twlio API looks more straight forward than anything else I've connected too before.. Will be trying out some different types of integration over the coming week
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    • Profile picture of the author scarab
      Originally Posted by ukescuba View Post

      What features are you looking for in particular?

      Twlio API looks more straight forward than anything else I've connected too before.. Will be trying out some different types of integration over the coming week
      Help on using the infamous OpenVBX. I'v built a very simple registration app with plugins that subscribes a user. Now I would like to build an app that lets me send an sms txt to the mobile device with an offer, discount heck anything because I am testing the little app. Can I use VBx for this or do I have to build a an interface with PHP?
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      • Profile picture of the author Jay Moreno
        Originally Posted by scarab View Post

        Help on using the infamous OpenVBX. I'v built a very simple registration app with plugins that subscribes a user. Now I would like to build an app that lets me send an sms txt to the mobile device with an offer, discount heck anything because I am testing the little app. Can I use VBx for this or do I have to build a an interface with PHP?
        are you guys looking to extend openvbx functionality or have a standalone system, probably having a standalone system will give you more control over what you can and cant do...

        am open to suggestions right now and will see what i can do
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        • Profile picture of the author thattori
          Originally Posted by ukescuba View Post

          are you guys looking to extend openvbx functionality or have a standalone system, probably having a standalone system will give you more control over what you can and cant do...

          am open to suggestions right now and will see what i can do
          how about a basic system at start and we can add on more features as it goes,

          Ukescuba: PM me, on that what are we looking at $$?
          lets talk!!!
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          • Profile picture of the author Jay Moreno
            Originally Posted by thattori View Post

            how about a basic system at start and we can add on more features as it goes,

            Ukescuba: PM me, on that what are we looking at $$?
            lets talk!!!
            i want to keep cost down and affordable - i just pm'd you

            cheers
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            • Profile picture of the author rjohnsen
              One thing I like about Twilio is their use of long codes vs short codes.

              A unique long code, which is just a regular phone number, can be obtained for each SMS customer, giving each the the ability to use popular keywords like "pizza", which would only be available on a first-come/first-served basis with a short code.

              I would like to see a system developed that could use a standard front-end platform (Wordpress was mentioned above) or Joomla or similar.

              It should allow each customer to manage their own campaign if they want to.

              It would be great to have opt-in widgets to use on outside sites, such as a directory of Mobile advertisers, so that people can sign up for offers via that site (we could charge our customers to be listed in the directory or offer free listings).
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Moreno
    i haven't a problem building something thats affordable for people and also easy to use but a shortlist of features will obviously help the process
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    • Profile picture of the author thattori
      Agree...I have been doing some research and posted for programmer/coder on CL, have a few reply the ad and will be talking to them in the next few days, did crunched some numbers from diff. company and I think there is another company that is doable beside Twilio and their white label is not looking too bad. But it is a short code.
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  • Profile picture of the author redlegrich
    Another alternative is to go to a Startup Weekend in your area (Startup Weekend). Propose this idea and I suspect you'll corral a coder or two who could knock this out over a weekend. The advantage here is you are proposing a REAL business that can make money almost overnight. Most Startup Weekend projects are BS and don't last past the weekend event. Free dev work, every body share in the sales. I'm waiting on the next one here in Seattle and will do this here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joewriter
    By the way mobile marketing is the new revolutionary way of making it in the next generation marketing due to the huge subscriber base and the cheapness
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  • Profile picture of the author TWalker
    My thought is to have an SMS plug-in with call/SMS tracking and click to call of course but with delayed sending.

    Example: I want to send my text on each Friday but set it up today.

    All of the SMS analytics and statistics charts which are at Twilio should be in the WP install so each client can log in and see their own info even if they aren't running their own campaigns.

    Of course as a customer you may have the option run your own campaign, but at least log in and be able to see your usage and analytics.
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  • Profile picture of the author adlene
    seems like the thread didn't get to the point of its main objective. i'm not coder nor programmer but i'll start a list of features I think is must have:
    --Clients log in to website which takes them to their own simple dashboard where they can manage all aspects of their account, including fixed message, sending new messages, database of subscribers, etc.
    --System should be set up so that someone can call phone number to subscribe.
    --A scheduler so that many messages can be prewritten, then scheduled to go out on certain days of the month.
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    • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
      Originally Posted by adlene View Post

      seems like the thread didn't get to the point of its main objective. i'm not coder nor programmer but i'll start a list of features I think is must have:
      --Clients log in to website which takes them to their own simple dashboard where they can manage all aspects of their account, including fixed message, sending new messages, database of subscribers, etc.
      --System should be set up so that someone can call phone number to subscribe.
      --A scheduler so that many messages can be prewritten, then scheduled to go out on certain days of the month.
      OpenVBX can do what you described, except I haven't found a scheduler plugin yet, but it would be easy for someone versed in PHP to write it.
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    • Profile picture of the author TWalker
      Originally Posted by adlene View Post

      seems like the thread didn't get to the point of its main objective. i'm not coder nor programmer but i'll start a list of features I think is must have:
      --Clients log in to website which takes them to their own simple dashboard where they can manage all aspects of their account, including fixed message, sending new messages, database of subscribers, etc.
      --System should be set up so that someone can call phone number to subscribe.
      --A scheduler so that many messages can be prewritten, then scheduled to go out on certain days of the month.
      Yes! That is a good summary.

      Now I don't like to put it this way but basically all we need is OpenVBX embedded with a scheduler.

      I don't want to use the term Iframe but....lets say embedded without branding.

      Is that too simplistic? The look of OpenVBX is fine and it even has a theme chooser inside of it.

      Just to be able to get it into a site (hopefully Wordpress) would be a huge deal for me.

      I don't need new features except a scheduler.
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      • Profile picture of the author zbw777
        Originally Posted by TWalker View Post

        Yes! That is a good summary.

        Now I don't like to put it this way but basically all we need is OpenVBX embedded with a scheduler.

        I don't want to use the term Iframe but....lets say embedded without branding.

        Is that too simplistic? The look of OpenVBX is fine and it even has a theme chooser inside of it.

        Just to be able to get it into a site (hopefully Wordpress) would be a huge deal for me.

        I don't need new features except a scheduler.

        Since you can hack the theme of OpenVBX and install it on a subdomain, why would you want to embed it in wordpress. I'm thinking that if I end up using OpenVBX I would have my site front end be mytextdomain.com and that would be the sales/reference site, and when the clients or I would login they would go to app.mytextdomain.com.

        I would adjust the theme to match style/etc.

        Just don't see the advantage to take the extra step and embed into wordpress. Maybe I'm missing your point.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Moreno
    am going backwards and forwards here from using openvbx or creating a standalone system that can possibly tie into wp/joomla...

    i like the look of openvbx and it has a lot of things already setup but i am just not familiar with its structure... building something from the ground up may take longer but may actually be able to support better and also customize to peoples very specific needs... either way ill figure it out
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    • Profile picture of the author IMguy123
      Originally Posted by Jay Moreno View Post

      am going backwards and forwards here from using openvbx or creating a standalone system that can possibly tie into wp/joomla...

      i like the look of openvbx and it has a lot of things already setup but i am just not familiar with its structure... building something from the ground up may take longer but may actually be able to support better and also customize to peoples very specific needs... either way ill figure it out
      So whatever happened with the efforts and plans talked about in this thread? Were you successful in putting something together? Did anyone else move forward with creating something? I am not only asking you because I quoted your post. I ask others as well. I just quoted you since you talked about coding it or figuring it out.

      I am interested because I would am interested in finding a frontend as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author adlene
    So as i understand OpenVBX is a ready solution in the box except for the scheduler plugin and front end integration with wp or drupal ? i'm i right ?
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    • Profile picture of the author TWalker
      Originally Posted by adlene View Post

      So as i understand OpenVBX is a ready solution in the box except for the scheduler plugin and front end integration with wp or drupal ? i'm i right ?
      Yes it is and open source. The company Twilio encourages developers to do what you want with it.


      Now...what about Twitter? Social marketing?

      When you send out a text promo how would you like it to Tweet as well?

      Don't want to slow production on this but it can be on the todo list.
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  • Profile picture of the author adlene
    in another word is it possible to turn openvbx into a system like trumpia example? except for the short codes part . if so can someone take the time and help us here with a detailed project to submit to a freelancer , coder ..etc .
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  • Profile picture of the author SirThomas
    I'd like to see a website opt-in form where people can enter their phone number to subscribe.


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    • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
      Originally Posted by SirThomas View Post

      I'd like to see a website opt-in form where people can enter their phone number to subscribe.


      T
      That would be easy, and I haven't used this yet, but I think this is what would do it.

      Twilio App - Click to Flow Plugin | Twilio Cloud Communications

      Looks like the form calls a phone number to initiate a flow. Set it up so that the SMS flow subscribes then sends out a greeting. I'll be giving this one a try.

      BTW: Check my sig for a 27 minute tutorial on how to use OpenVBX for offline clients. Please don't call the numbers though!
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      • Profile picture of the author TWalker
        Originally Posted by xlfutur1 View Post

        That would be easy, and I haven't used this yet, but I think this is what would do it.

        Twilio App - Click to Flow Plugin | Twilio Cloud Communications

        Looks like the form calls a phone number to initiate a flow. Set it up so that the SMS flow subscribes then sends out a greeting. I'll be giving this one a try.

        BTW: Check my sig for a 27 minute tutorial on how to use OpenVBX for offline clients. Please don't call the numbers though!

        Nice. That plug in link was dead for me but this is exactly what makes Twilio good.

        I'm watching your video now. I love this system. I hadn't got around to doing the extra plug-ins.

        I'm wondering: There is much talk about telemarketing around here with the John Durham group and I believe in it.

        Any way you see that OpenVBX would advantageous in making cold calls? Can it be used as a calling system instead of an answering system for businesses.

        It does so much I havn't gotten around to wading through all the info to see if I could use it for myself in this way. Have you seen anything about predictive dialing or autodialing?

        Thanks for the vid.
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      • Profile picture of the author SirThomas
        Originally Posted by xlfutur1 View Post

        That would be easy, and I haven't used this yet, but I think this is what would do it.

        Twilio App - Click to Flow Plugin | Twilio Cloud Communications

        Looks like the form calls a phone number to initiate a flow. Set it up so that the SMS flow subscribes then sends out a greeting. I'll be giving this one a try.

        BTW: Check my sig for a 27 minute tutorial on how to use OpenVBX for offline clients. Please don't call the numbers though!
        Thank you for the email. I will watch your video after I get back home.

        Thomas
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  • Profile picture of the author xlfutur1
    That link works for me.

    As far as using OpenVBX as a cold caller to businesses, I suppose you could import a bunch of telephone numbers and set up a flow to do a voice blast. However, I don't think it would go over well with the people you would be calling. If you have ever gotten an automated call from a politician, you know how annoying they can be. I told my clients that even though the system I set up for them can do a voice blast, I wouldn't personally recommend it. You want happy customers, not annoyed ones.
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    • Profile picture of the author TWalker
      Originally Posted by xlfutur1 View Post

      That link works for me.

      As far as using OpenVBX as a cold caller to businesses, I suppose you could import a bunch of telephone numbers and set up a flow to do a voice blast. However, I don't think it would go over well with the people you would be calling. If you have ever gotten an automated call from a politician, you know how annoying they can be. I told my clients that even though the system I set up for them can do a voice blast, I wouldn't personally recommend it. You want happy customers, not annoyed ones.
      Sorry the Twilio link works but the developers site links don't work, was wondering if he was still working on it. No matter.

      Yea I wouldn't voice blast.
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  • Profile picture of the author TWalker
    Good point.

    I think full seemless integration into the style of my site would be an ideal situation.

    But ya know what? Its totally not necessary and maybe just adding steps that don't need to be added.

    Sometimes its better to just spend that time making sales and forget about details.
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  • Profile picture of the author zbw777
    As I mentioned on one of the other threads, I've reached out to the developer of the subscription and matching plugins for OpenVBX to see if he'd be open to some paid development.

    I've also reached out to a couple other developers to discuss options. While I'm never opposed to buying a solution from a vendor, there is something to be said for having it on your own server.

    That's my main goal. While I love using wordpress... I use it on my server. I feel the same way for this technology. Just my 2 cents
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  • Profile picture of the author MobileNatalie
    Not to be a debbie downer, but I was thinking of going down this route also, and it just seems like there is a lot of engineering work involved. Moreorless, how do you stay relevant with larger companies.

    I'm currently an affiliate of Trumpia, but I'm debating on joining their reseller program as they have already built a sophisticated platform.

    Do you guys recommend looking at any other white labels?
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      Originally Posted by MobileNatalie View Post

      Not to be a debbie downer, but I was thinking of going down this route also, and it just seems like there is a lot of engineering work involved. Moreorless, how do you stay relevant with larger companies.

      I'm currently an affiliate of Trumpia, but I'm debating on joining their reseller program as they have already built a sophisticated platform.

      Do you guys recommend looking at any other white labels?
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      • Profile picture of the author 21clg
        Hello. I setup a dispatch and it works great for blasting messages just using my own cell phone to compose but does anybody know HOW I can track the amount of texts being sent through my Twilio setup (through OpenVBX)???

        I just need a simple way to tell how many texts are being sent by whom to which list, so I can know how many outgoing texts a particular client is sending.

        (right now, Twilios "analytics" when I log in are just aggregate numbers, not at all broken down into which list got sent how many, etc)

        any other analytics solutions that are more comprehensive? not necessarily so my clients can see everything (that would be nice too), but atleast so I can go in and see who sent a dispatch and to how got sent....
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  • Profile picture of the author bryson
    What about
    kannel dot org -Open Source for WAP and SMS Gateway.Or
    playsms dot org - playSMS is a flexible Web-based Mobile Portal System that it can be made to fit to various services such as an SMS gateway, bulk SMS tools

    Does anyone have experience with these?
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