I owned the 1st page in less than 3 days!

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Just a little patting myself on the back but....

I read the techniques used by some here for creating a site and getting it ranked so it can be rented or sold to local businesses and put those techniques to work.

I bought a domain and built a site on thursday between classes. Its now saturday and I own the top 3 positions (I only had 3 pages) plus the number 7 spot for my video.

This was for multiple keywords which were not high competition. But they were the absolute best keywords for a service which highly competitive in my area.

Basically businesses just don't have sites in my area for this service but it is in very high demand.

I have a list of about 30 businesses who do only this service, it is required by law that every homeowner must use this service and will for years to come.

Thats a little vague I know but lets just say my owning that Internet real estate has some value.

Why they don't build websites I don't know but there are 3 local search results.

So thanks to all the Warriors who share their know how.
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  • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
    Originally Posted by TWalker View Post

    I read the techniques used by some here for creating a site and getting it ranked
    so it can be rented or sold to local businesses and put those techniques to work.
    Ok. What "techniques" that were used by "some" here that you utilized that helped
    you accomplish this?

    Congrat's too!

    LastWarrior
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    Well congrats but I'm not sure it required much... I often times get pages ranked locally with just an optimized title tag because of the lack of competition. If there is competition, then don't expect to stay up there, it is very possible you have the newness bonus, so stay working on it.
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    • Profile picture of the author TWalker
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      Well congrats but I'm not sure it required much... I often times get pages ranked locally with just an optimized title tag because of the lack of competition. If there is competition, then don't expect to stay up there, it is very possible you have the newness bonus, so stay working on it.

      I agree it is old hat for many here and they probably do it all the time. But it is new for me in some ways. From domain registration to top of the heap for a big service in my locale in less than 72 hours.

      And there seems to be an open market for selling the site but that remains to be seen. The niche I built the site for is big business in this area but seemingly no online competition.

      @lastwarrior Optimization of the sites tags, keyword rich content etc. Not the title tag specifically but general optimization for the site. The keywords are nothing obscure but the best keywords for a mainstream business in my area. And a YT video helped.

      What I have to remember though is not everyone is so "unimpressed" as warriors who do this for a living. Some are very impressed when you can do this if they have no knowledge of how it is done.

      Thats the selling point. Every "Joe business owner" hears the term "first page of Google" but has no comprehension of the details. The business owners brother or somebody built a site for him years ago and it never ranks and he doesn't know why.

      Show him you can put him first page and he is likely impressed.
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      • Profile picture of the author NeilMoran
        Originally Posted by TWalker View Post

        What I have to remember though is not everyone is so "unimpressed" as warriors who do this for a living. Some are very impressed when you can do this if they have no knowledge of how it is done.

        Thats the selling point. Every "Joe business owner" hears the term "first page of Google" but has no comprehension of the details. The business owners brother or somebody built a site for him years ago and it never ranks and he doesn't know why.

        Show him you can put him first page and he is likely impressed.
        This is sooo true, I was talking to a client the other day about what I had done for him in ranking his site (I'm renting it to him), he looked so confused, so I just said all the main keywords are on the first page of google and climbing, his reaction was "REALLY!..wow...that's awesome, don't know how ya do it...thankyou!" most offline clients don't have a clue about seo and link building etc and they just don't have the time to even learn about it, ANYONE on this forum can do this, they just don't give themselves enough credit. Build a site, rank it, rent it, rinse and repeat :-)

        Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      Well congrats but I'm not sure it required much... I often times get pages ranked locally with just an optimized title tag because of the lack of competition. If there is competition, then don't expect to stay up there, it is very possible you have the newness bonus, so stay working on it.
      Yes, that is an honest straight forward reply of the situation, the way I see it too. It doesn't take much to rank at the top of a local search market because you're dealing with a smaller less competitive market. Try top 3 results for a keyword like golfing, iPhone, internet marketing on a national or global scale and that is a big challenge because now you're playing with the big boys and girls pulling out their full repertoire of skills, with some of them hiring additional pros to foster their own efforts. In local marketing, throw in some geo keywords, a keyword title tag, some <h1> SEO and do general on-page SEO and you're in like Flynn. When you get to a bigger city, like Chicago, then the challenge gets tougher than a city like Buzzard Breath Wyoming.

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      • Profile picture of the author want2knowhow
        Wow! That's pretty darn good if I have to say it myself! Congratulations!
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  • Profile picture of the author Giftys
    I bought a domain and built a site on thursday between classes. Its now saturday and I own the top 3 positions (I only had 3 pages) plus the number 7 spot for my video.
    Congrats TWalker!
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    • Profile picture of the author joe0074
      Congratulations !
      How can you rank for multiple keywords ?
      Would you like to share ?

      Thanks,
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  • Profile picture of the author leadmonster
    Congrats Walker and keep up the great work! I know the feeling ! Nothing like ranking a site in 24-72 hours on the biggest Search Monster ! Google! Talk later my friend!
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  • Profile picture of the author akazo
    I can't believe the negativity of a couple of posts. You have to walk before you can run, right?

    The most important thing a newbie can do it TAKE ACTION. You did it, now keep the ball rolling.

    Anyway, congrats and I hope that you sell it or rent it or sell advertising, whatever your goal is for the site.
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by akazo View Post

      I can't believe the negativity of a couple of posts. You have to walk before you can run, right?

      The most important thing a newbie can do it TAKE ACTION. You did it, now keep the ball rolling.

      Anyway, congrats and I hope that you sell it or rent it or sell advertising, whatever your goal is for the site.
      I assume that was aimed towards me, but in reality, I wasn't be negative at all. I said congrats, and I gave advice that he should continue to work at it because things aren't always as they seem. Unless you were referring to LastWarrior, which he wasn't being negative either.

      Yes, it is good he actually did something instead of just read about it. However, some of us who have been in the game long enough know how it is to be naive and new to things. Our "pats on the back" and "high-fives" are a bit limited in a lot of things, not because we're cynical or negative, but because we know the ropes, and know not everything is the way it seems.

      In no way was I discouraging the OP, I in fact, encourage him to keep working on it, because 50% of the time a new site can rank extremely well even for a couple months then take a major dip because people think what they did is enough.
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      • Profile picture of the author shane_k
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post


        In no way was I discouraging the OP, I in fact, encourage him to keep working on it, because 50% of the time a new site can rank extremely well even for a couple months then take a major dip because people think what they did is enough.
        @Iamnameless what advice would you have for this person or any other newbie on how to maintain their first page Google rankings?

        Thanks

        Shane_K
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        • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
          Originally Posted by shane_k View Post

          @Iamnameless what advice would you have for this person or any other newbie on how to maintain their first page Google rankings?

          Thanks

          Shane_K
          It depends on the business and what you can do. If you're number 1.. and you just want to maintain on a monthly basis... do a press release, a couple articles, definitely a few edu links.

          It isn't just about backlinks or the number, or quality... there is also backlink velocity that plays a role in the algorithm. I personally like to use linklicious at the moment just for a little bit extra juice. Works well for me. I suppose though, once you're ranking first page you already had a good velocity to get there.

          I rarely change the title tags or anything else with on page once it ranks well. Once you're #1, the hard part is already done. You just want to maintain. Even social bookmarks.

          I think most importantly though, once you achieve a top position, you don't stop, you don't get satisfied, you continue pushing forward and target additional keywords.
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    • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
      And I still can't believe the ineptness of some people's lack of ability to
      comprehend the written word, but to instead derive some convoluted
      contrived perception that is obviously not what was said nor meant by
      the said words... and to alternately manufacture a whole new meaning
      no way resembling the original document.

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      • Profile picture of the author Luke Bishop
        Originally Posted by LastWarrior View Post

        And I still can't believe the ineptness of some people's lack of ability to
        comprehend the written word, but to instead derive some convoluted
        contrived perception that is obviously not what was said nor meant by
        the said words... and to alternately manufacture a whole new meaning
        no way resembling the original document.

        LastWarrior
        Oo big words!

        So twalker are you going to share how you did it?
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        • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
          Originally Posted by Luke Bishop View Post

          Oo big words!

          So twalker are you going to share how you did it?
          LOL! Whatever.

          And his reply from before wasn't enough for you?

          "...Optimization of the sites tags, keyword rich content etc. Not the title tag
          specifically but general optimization for the site. The keywords are nothing
          obscure but the best keywords for a mainstream business in my area. And
          a YT video helped."

          LastWarrior :rolleyes:
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          • Profile picture of the author Dr Dan
            Originally Posted by LastWarrior View Post

            LOL! Whatever.

            And his reply from before wasn't enough for you?

            "...Optimization of the sites tags, keyword rich content etc. Not the title tag
            specifically but general optimization for the site. The keywords are nothing
            obscure but the best keywords for a mainstream business in my area. And
            a YT video helped."

            LastWarrior :rolleyes:
            Congrats and get it rented asap! Then use that as an example to rent more before you create new ones! I love getting paid before I do the work!

            Its so damn easy to dominate the first pages of Google when you find search phrases that no one knows about. Its gotten so easy that I am starting to do it blind folded, on one leg, typing with my left pinky, while while underwater in the Jacuzzi just to make it a little of a challenge. JK.. sorta.

            But seriously congrats and get that site rented asap!
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  • Profile picture of the author ADukes81
    Nice work!

    I just made a site a week ago and got on the first page and it still feels good to do it. It's a local niche, but I still love seeing it done in such a short amount of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author SirThomas
    Dan, how do you decide what's the best keyword? Besides the obvious, like realtor+city, homes for sale in "city", seller's realtor, buyers realtor etc

    Do you use a certain software, keyword tool or any specific research method?

    I used to find good keywords by searching blogs, YahooAnswers, forums where people talked about some problems. It's a great technique, but very time consuming...


    Thomas
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by SirThomas View Post

      Dan, how do you decide what's the best keyword? Besides the obvious, like realtor+city, homes for sale in "city", seller's realtor, buyers realtor etc

      Do you use a certain software, keyword tool or any specific research method?

      I used to find good keywords by searching blogs, YahooAnswers, forums where people talked about some problems. It's a great technique, but very time consuming...


      Thomas
      You could do what most people do... go into google adwords, use the keyword tool and type in some keywords, whatever you can think of, and see the traffic. Not a fool proof way, but it works. Other than that, SEM rush is a tool I have grown very fond of.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dr Dan
        Originally Posted by SirThomas View Post

        Dan, how do you decide what's the best keyword? Besides the obvious, like realtor+city, homes for sale in "city", seller's realtor, buyers realtor etc

        Do you use a certain software, keyword tool or any specific research method?

        I used to find good keywords by searching blogs, YahooAnswers, forums where people talked about some problems. It's a great technique, but very time consuming...


        Thomas
        I wrote a post about local keyword research here: Google Local Search Guide – Searching for Local Keywords | Offline RockStar Academy

        I also have links to a few programs and scripts that are available that blow everything else away. They range in cost of a whopping $7 to $50. You only need one of them but I gave a few options. Most of them are links to WSO specials here.

        They are not my products and I get no affiliate commissions from them.

        This is all I use now!


        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        You could do what most people do... go into google adwords, use the keyword tool and type in some keywords, whatever you can think of, and see the traffic. Not a fool proof way, but it works. Other than that, SEM rush is a tool I have grown very fond of.
        I only use Google's Adword Keyword Tool when I am demonstrating what not to use! lol... but really, it sucks! I don't use that or even my Market Samurai anymore for getting me keywords. Those tools are sooooo 2010!

        I consider the Google Adword Keyword Tool as useful as this:



        Its the year 2011 and time to step it up!

        Im half joking. But I really dont use those tools anymore.

        I apologize if I offended anyone using a modem like this still. I didnt mean to make fun of you.

        Sorry its 2am here in Cali and I need to get some rest before all that comes out is nothing but jokes.
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        • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
          Originally Posted by Dr Dan View Post



          I only use Google's Adword Keyword Tool when I am demonstrating what not to use! lol... but really, it sucks! I don't use that or even my Market Samurai anymore for getting me keywords. Those tools are sooooo 2010!

          I consider the Google Adword Keyword Tool as useful as this:



          Its the year 2011 and time to step it up!

          Im half joking. But I really dont use those tools anymore.

          I apologize if I offended anyone using a modem like this still. I didnt mean to make fun of you.

          Sorry its 2am here in Cali and I need to get some rest before all that comes out is nothing but jokes.
          For a basic idea, I would always recommend a beginner to use the adwords keyword tool, not to judge competition but to get a rough idea of searches. Other programs will help you determine competition, but I never really worry about competition too much.

          I have to disagree with you though, you think you don't use the keyword tool? Where do you think keyword research tools get their data from?
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          • Profile picture of the author Dr Dan
            Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

            For a basic idea, I would always recommend a beginner to use the adwords keyword tool, not to judge competition but to get a rough idea of searches. Other programs will help you determine competition, but I never really worry about competition too much.

            I have to disagree with you though, you think you don't use the keyword tool? Where do you think keyword research tools get their data from?
            Trust me I dont use that tool in any way shape or form! My tools do not pool there data from there. Its worthless data and scewed by SEO companies and people here trying to find the next hot niche to target. Think about it, how many times have us offline marketers checked on different industries with our tools? Then we do a Google search. Then we show our clients by doing another Google search. Then they do a Google search because you sent them an email or they want to see what you were talking about. Then they want to see what there competition is. That tool is pretty much worthless!

            You can disagree all you want and I have respect for everyone here on this forum. Everyone is entitled to there opinions.

            At one point everyone said the world was flat and only a few said it was round. What happened to those that said it was round? did they get an award? were they greeted with praise and appreciation? Nope.... they were stricken of there credentials, ridiculed, and then executed!

            How many of you still believe the world is flat?


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            • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
              Originally Posted by Dr Dan View Post

              Trust me I dont use that tool in any way shape or form! My tools do not pool there data from there. Its worthless data and scewed by SEO companies and people here trying to find the next hot niche to target. Think about it, how many times have us offline marketers checked on different industries with our tools? Then we do a Google search. Then we show our clients by doing another Google search. Then they do a Google search because you sent them an email or they want to see what you were talking about. Then they want to see what there competition is. That tool is pretty much worthless!

              You can disagree all you want and I have respect for everyone here on this forum. Everyone is entitled to there opinions.

              At one point everyone said the world was flat and only a few said it was round. What happened to those that said it was round? did they get an award? were they greeted with praise and appreciation? Nope.... they were stricken of there credentials, ridiculed, and then executed!

              How many of you still believe the world is flat?


              I assure you, you are using the keyword tool one way or another. If not, then your tools are just guesses. You are using the API of the search engines indirectly despite whatever tool you are using, no way to even deny that reasonably unless the tools are just guesses. How can a tool know the amount of searches, without using the API? It just doesn't make sense. And like I said earlier, if you want additional information, then get a keyword tool, but for people that don't care about the competition, and will have to go for it anyway, it doesn't matter. You can say it pools it from dogpile or another source, but it still indirectly is using google API, and if it isn't, then I doubt the credibility.

              Not sure what kind of campaign you're trying to make, LMAO, I like the pic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dr Dan
      Originally Posted by SirThomas View Post

      Dan, how do you decide what's the best keyword? Besides the obvious, like realtor+city, homes for sale in "city", seller's realtor, buyers realtor etc
      Thomas
      Sorry I forgot to answer this one.

      When using the tools I recommended, you will find amazing gems that no one is using and its all for the picking. Everyone is fighting over the 100 or so keywords spit out of the dinosaur keyword tool. While we get to dominate all the hidden search phrases.
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      • Profile picture of the author TWalker
        Originally Posted by Dr Dan View Post

        Sorry I forgot to answer this one.

        When using the tools I recommended, you will find amazing gems that no one is using and its all for the picking. Everyone is fighting over the 100 or so keywords spit out of the dinosaur keyword tool. While we get to dominate all the hidden search phrases.
        Ya Dan thanks for the encouraging words. You were actually the last warrior I was reading before deciding to make this site. You said something about 5 minutes of SEO and you can get a local site to the top....something to that effect.

        @ all the warriors. The negative comments don't bother me at all. Not everyone has to be all bright and sunshine. I learn from the not so positive posters. They make points.

        Its all good....I know what I did for this site was good work and there is a big market for it. Dan is right I need to get it rented or sold.

        I already started another one for a bigger more competitive market before I even sold this one. Thats what I learn here is ...take action...get it done.
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  • Profile picture of the author SirThomas
    Yes, I use adwords keyword tool. It's good, but I need more targeted/buyers keywords. I'll try SEM Rush.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dr Dan
    you think you don't use the keyword tool? Where do you think keyword research tools get their data from?
    I assure you, you are using the keyword tool one way or another. If not, then your tools are just guesses. You are using the API of the search engines indirectly despite whatever tool you are using, no way to even deny that reasonably unless the tools are just guesses. How can a tool know the amount of searches, without using the API? It just doesn't make sense. And like I said earlier, if you want additional information, then get a keyword tool, but for people that don't care about the competition, and will have to go for it anyway, it doesn't matter. You can say it pools it from dogpile or another source, but it still indirectly is using google API, and if it isn't, then I doubt the credibility.
    I never said it didnt use Googles API. I said I dont use the Google Adword Tool. There is a big difference in my statement. The adword tools sucks for local marketing! I will just leave it at that sice I have beaten this topic to death already. Im gonna go take a nap now ;-)
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by Dr Dan View Post

      I never said it didnt use Googles API. I said I dont use the Google Adword Tool. There is a big difference in my statement. The adword tools sucks for local marketing! I will just leave it at that sice I have beaten this topic to death already. Im gonna go take a nap now ;-)
      You said you don't use any form of the adword tool... but now that you don't deny using the Google API, you admit that you do use it because it ties into every program that uses the API. Anyway, not really important anyway. Enjoy your nap.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dr Dan
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        You said you don't use any form of the adword tool... but now that you don't deny using the Google API, you admit that you do use it because it ties into every program that uses the API. Anyway, not really important anyway. Enjoy your nap.
        lol... There is a difference between Google Adword tool and Googles API. Thats like me saying I dont drive a Chevy Volt and you saying that I do because my Chevy zr1 Corvette is made by Chevy.

        But its all good. I think this will need to be a draw at least, because I know what you meant to say that was that I am using Googles API no matter what tool I am using. When you originally said

        you think you don't use the keyword tool? Where do you think keyword research tools get their data from?
        You are correct if you meant to say that I must use Googles API and not that I must be using Google Adword tool in one way or another.
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        • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
          Originally Posted by Dr Dan View Post

          lol... There is a difference between Google Adword tool and Googles API. Thats like me saying I dont drive a Chevy Volt and you saying that I do because my Chevy zr1 Corvette is made by Chevy.

          But its all good. I think this will need to be a draw at least, because I know what you meant to say that was that I am using Googles API no matter what tool I am using. When you originally said



          You are correct if you meant to say that I must use Googles API and not that I must be using Google Adword tool in one way or another.
          No, I know what I meant to say. I think you are confused though.

          "Trust me I dont use that tool in any way shape or form!"

          But you do, because the google API used in any keyword tool uses the same scripts as the adword keyword tool, load in a compiler and look for yourself! It is echoed throughout, it may seem different on the outside but if you really get into it, it is the exact same. The difference in tools is where they place variables in order to give you information, additional strings, etc. You definitely DO use they keyword tool, but you don't realize it! When you're using the API for your own program, you have the wonderful ability to not be limited to the 800 words they give you, or 100 if you don't log in... The user end product, definitely could be better than the adwords keyword tool, definitely... but it does use the keyword tool. What people do, is they include echoes to other engines, and other variables... the search numbers from adwords could account for a 70% authority variable when coding, also taking information in from other sources.
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  • Profile picture of the author staceybrown281
    Whoa! I bet, the keywords you use are not so competitive that's why you easily rank it up to the 1st page. Can you share to us those "techniques" you used. It will be a great help for us, though. Keep it up. CONGRATS
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    • Profile picture of the author Stephen B
      Interesting discussion going about about the Google keyword tool.

      I use it for all my local clients because it will give me an idea what is being searched for across the UK in any niche then all I have to do is put the name of the city or town at the end "oak furniture London" ... then I set up a local Google Adwords campaign for the client and get the actual data through the Google campaign.

      Once I see how many impressions each keyword is getting locally I know which keywords to focus on for the client.
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  • Profile picture of the author IdrisSG
    You built a site "between classes" that's really amazing.

    Did you use templates?

    If so which one?



    Originally Posted by TWalker View Post

    Just a little patting myself on the back but....

    I read the techniques used by some here for creating a site and getting it ranked so it can be rented or sold to local businesses and put those techniques to work.

    I bought a domain and built a site on thursday between classes. Its now saturday and I own the top 3 positions (I only had 3 pages) plus the number 7 spot for my video.

    This was for multiple keywords which were not high competition. But they were the absolute best keywords for a service which highly competitive in my area.

    Basically businesses just don't have sites in my area for this service but it is in very high demand.

    I have a list of about 30 businesses who do only this service, it is required by law that every homeowner must use this service and will for years to come.

    Thats a little vague I know but lets just say my owning that Internet real estate has some value.

    Why they don't build websites I don't know but there are 3 local search results.

    So thanks to all the Warriors who share their know how.
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    • Profile picture of the author brazda22
      Originally Posted by IdrisSG View Post

      You built a site "between classes" that's really amazing.

      Did you use templates?

      If so which one?
      Yeah, reveal some details man, let us learn some tricks, since you pick it up here, please...
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