Had my Groupon lead appointment today....

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To today I had my appointment from the lead I got USING GROUPON for selling my SMS service and it went ok but no sale yet. Here's what happened.

Before I actually saw the owner (he was in his office) he yelled out "Great...right on time". So the key for everyone here is not to be late. Owners respect that.

When we sat down I started out with the normal small talk about traffic and weather. Then talked about Groupon and how it was going for him. I then started doing my pitch. I went over the SMS stats, showed him my printouts and did a quick TXT demo on my phone.

The whole time he was nodding "yes" to everything I said and even agreed with me on occasion...especially about how 20-30 year olds text more than talk on their phones. I'm thinking this is great and it could be my first sale.

He then asked "how much" and I pulled out an ROI sheet first and showed him how much his business can increase with even 250 subscribers. I then showed him my price sheet and explained it all to him.

Then came his questions....

1. Why do I need you? This was kind of a weird question and maybe it's because I didn't explain myself fully during my pitch. But then I told him that I'm the one with the software and the service and I'd also be adding and sending the texts for him so he doesn't have to think about it. He said...oh..ok.

2. So I have to do all the promoting? This was an interesting question and sort of made me think of a new problem that I could solve for him and others. But my answer was "yes, you'd be doing the promotions using table tents, flyers, business cards, posters, etc." He then said "Waitresses can be lazy and not mention to customers to sign up". Didn't know what to say about that without insulting his wait staff.

3. Where do I get the flyers and promo stuff? I told him he could use his own printer conpany if he had one, but if he wanted, I could design the materials for him and get it printed. I then gave him a price list for my printing services (that I outsource of course).

4. Who else have you signed up with? This question caught me a bit off guard and I told him that I just started this service and I've been talking to various restaurants who are interested, but he'd be the first to sign up. I also told him that I've been in business for over 20 years and this is just a new service we're offering. He sounded a little hesitant but then said "So I'd be pioneering this idea, then?" I laughed and said, yeah.

5. Let me keep over your information and I'll call you in a few days. Ugh...the dreded "let me think about it" response. I then said that since he'd be my first customer, I could include the first 250 texts free. I know...I know...I shouldn't give that type of stuff away free but I don't have anything else to offer yet. That didn't phase him much anyway. He still needs to think about it. I'll call him at the end of the week to see if he's still interested.

Although there's a lot that I can take from this appointment as far as experience goes. I think the number one reason he didn't sign up right then is because I didn't have any customers yet. I think if I could have rattled off a laundry list of businesses that use my service, then he would have been more inclined to sign up. Or a worst case senario would be that he'd want to call those businesses and see how it was working for them first. But that's just my gut feeling. He didn't actually say that.

But back to question number 2....

I have an idea that I'll post in future thread.

Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author sitefurnace
    Thanks for detailing your experience Mike! Very interesting and congratulations for taking action. Hope you get the sale.

    This guy sounded like he wanted a full service, like he didn't want to think about it too much.

    For question 2 maybe an answer could have been to offer an incentive to his staff to build his list for him....whoever gets the most sign ups each week gets an extra $50 in their pay packet - nothing like some healthy competition!
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    • Profile picture of the author BrashImpact
      Mike,
      just a couple of thoughts on your pitch, Great Job with this funnel btw.

      1- Keep the pitch short under 10 minutes..>Benefit Benefit CLOSE, Repeat through
      the pitch...

      Business owners need immediate solutions not pitches for lack of a better word, You Might try actually Utilizing the Buzz words the Business Owners Understand...things like

      Exclusive - Roi - Cash on Cash - Advertising vs Marketing - Long term value of Customers - Increased Profitability - Cutting Marketing Costs -

      I know you get the point...Canned Pitches are tough, You going to get a far better closing ratio, if you ask the owner to take a Tour of His Business... In this case...Walking this restaurant owner around his place of business Using Imbedded Commands - and Suggestive thinking...

      Example - Bill here's where we will place the small Table Topper with an Immediate offer to send a Text... Like 10% off your meal right now, or Free Dessert or ? See where i am going with this...

      Get really good at Painting Visual Pictures... There is a lot more to the game but that will increase Orders right on the spot...

      Hope that Helps..Great Job just getting out and taking Action.
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    • Profile picture of the author advertextmedia
      Originally Posted by sitefurnace View Post

      Thanks for detailing your experience Mike! Very interesting and congratulations for taking action. Hope you get the sale.

      This guy sounded like he wanted a full service, like he didn't want to think about it too much.

      For question 2 maybe an answer could have been to offer an incentive to his staff to build his list for him....whoever gets the most sign ups each week gets an extra $50 in their pay packet - nothing like some healthy competition!
      Great answer! I was going to add the same response to what you wrote. Most wait staff are more inclined to promote things like this because since they are young they already understand the concept and probably already do it themselves. Giving them an incentive by adding some kind of promo code to each table will only sweeten the deal. Remember, with mobile marketing it's all about coming up with creative solutions to their problems so just think outside the box because it works. Most local businesses are afraid to try new ideas because they want you to believe their advertising budget has already been spent or is too low to try anything new that is unproven to them. Just ask them probing questions about their business to find out if there is truly a need for the service and make sure you give your answers with confidence and get back to them as soon as possible when you don't have an answer to their questions. This is all about selling them on the idea you will be around to take care of them and not some fly by night organization which is why most of his objections seemed to be aimed in that light. We already know mobile marketing is far more effective than any other marketing medium out today so don't just bore them on the stats sell them on why they should deal with you and that starts with building a relationship with that owner. Sell yourself and the benefits of your relationship and also sell the benefits of mobile marketing and you will close more deals. It make take you a few times walking into that business in order to final close the deal but by then he will gain your trust. It will be worth it in the end because he make give you some referrals and that's how you build a business.
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  • Profile picture of the author redlegrich
    It would be tough to do a contest for signing up without multiple keywords. Not hard to do, however many plans only offer a limited number of keywords. If you are flexible (and your plan supports it) and say you have a base keyword (say "champions") and any number of suffixes (say "champions01" or "championsrg") then it would be really easy to do a contest. At the back end you just do everything off the base keyword for outbound efforts.
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  • Profile picture of the author Transcripts
    Okay, for the staff thing, maybe have it printed on the customer's tab text Potato to 12345 today and get 10% off this bill. I was thinking about an incentive for the wait staff too, but that would be a bit cumbersome.
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  • Profile picture of the author Diane S
    Thanks for these great details. You were prepared yet still got some surprises. You got some good suggestions in this thread. I hope you close the sale! It would be great to get started on your ideas.
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    • Profile picture of the author Summertime Dress
      MrCouchPotato, I'm currently reading a book by Robert Ringer, Winning Through Intimidation. A MUST read...cannot tell you how this will change your strategy and how you deal with clients. Go out and get your copy today.
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  • Profile picture of the author M_Jones
    MrCouchPotato.....

    You have to be very quick on your toes - just because one has answer to a question does not necessarily mean it is the RIGHT answer..... Instead of holding '250 texts for free' over his head, you should have 'assumed the sale'... He says "well let me keep your information and think about it..." Ok sir while you are thinking it over, i'm going to meanwhile give you this xxxx( QRcode maybe), for you to put in your store, next to the register, allowing your clients to xxxxxxxx.............

    From here, he would think of you when every anybody pulled out their phone to scan (it has a special offer on it right?) or when ever anybody asked about it..... This way, while he is 'thinking about it' he can already see it working - all you have to do is make sure the qrcode (or whatever) is going to you and then on to your customer, so that you can cut the line at any time.. come back, and ask how he liked the results...?
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  • Profile picture of the author johncm
    Pioneer what. His business would not be the first. Even though you don't have your own SMS clients yet, there is no reason why you couldn't borrow other restaurants, pizza place or night club benefits. "mr owner, even though I'm new to the sms world ( don't need to really say that) there are countless of restaurants using this technolology righ now to fill there seats. especially on the slowest of day. The sent out a text and the seats are full. What would an extra 15 to 20 seats filled on you slowest night do to your bottom line?... how are you going to get those Groupon users back more and and on demand. You don't want to be on the back end of this thing you want to be the pioneer in your area don't you?"
    A little wordy, but you get the idea
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    • Profile picture of the author advertextmedia
      Originally Posted by johncm View Post

      Pioneer what. His business would not be the first. Even though you don't have your own SMS clients yet, there is no reason why you couldn't borrow other restaurants, pizza place or night club benefits. "mr owner, even though I'm new to the sms world ( don't need to really say that) there are countless of restaurants using this technolology righ now to fill there seats. especially on the slowest of day. The sent out a text and the seats are full. What would an extra 15 to 20 seats filled on you slowest night do to your bottom line?... how are you going to get those Groupon users back more and and on demand. You don't want to be on the back end of this thing you want to be the pioneer in your area don't you?"
      A little wordy, but you get the idea
      Another great way way to overcome an objection! Good point!
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  • Profile picture of the author Eddie Spangler
    Lost long post...Try having a couple case study articles from mobilecommercedaily.com. A possible thing to offer as "bonus" for decision would be training for wait staff and they probably not as lazy if there was a contest to get the most #'s. You may would have done this anyway but if he sees on price sheet that you charge x amount for your super duper quick start staff training then it has more perceived value.
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  • Profile picture of the author MKBridge
    How about making buttons up for the wait staff "Text Appy to 22334 for 20% off the next time you visit". Then the waitresses don't have to say anything, just wear the buttons!
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Solem
    I don't see anything at all wrong with letting someone sample the service you're offering for free, especially when you're just starting out and you need some satisfied clients and testimonials to help you sell the next few business owners you talk too.

    Especially when we're talking about pennies per message, help him build a list and send a few hundred messages to show him first hand what kind of response he can expect to see.

    And like johncm mentioned, you're not really pioneering anything new here. While you might not have testimonials of your own yet, spend 20 minutes with Google and find some case studies of other businesses who've successfully used SMS marketing for this guy or the next few you talk with. I don't know who you're using to send your messages, but many of the sms resellers I've researched have testimonials and I think they'd be happy to share considering you're selling their services.

    Great post and thanks for the play-by-play!

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  • Profile picture of the author roypreece
    Congratulations! Thanks for letting us know.

    I would send him a letter (print) TODAY thanking him for his time and summarising all the benefits of working with you.

    Then ring him tomorrow and check if he got it, and say "just one more thing about point 2 ..." and give him an answer plus a repeat of the benefits over the phone.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrcouchpotato
      I want to thank everyone for their replies. You guys and gals are awesome. I will take a lot of them and implement them. I think with experience, I'll be quicker on my toes when replying to objections.

      I really loved the waitress button idea and writing the letter. In fact, I wrote a quick follow up letter here. Let me know what you think or if should be changed before I mail it out.

      Dear Mr. Business owner,

      I want to thank you for taking the time to meet with me yesterday to talk about the benefits of starting a text message marketing campaign for your restaurant. It would definitely help you retain the customers that come in with their Groupon coupons.

      And speaking of Groupon, one idea specifically for that would be to create a business card that said "Receive 20% off your next visit. Simply text YOURKEYWORD to 77948". Then have your severs or cashier (depending on how customers pay for their checks) give that coupon to anyone who turns in a Groupon coupon. This will help bring them back to spend more money to offset the cost of Groupon. And you'll also start building a list of customers to continue marketing to in the future.

      During our talk, you mentioned that the servers may not mention signing up for the text offers to their customers. One thing that you can do is set up a contest for the servers and give a prize to the one who has the most customers sign up in a month. This may get them motivated to get the word out.

      They could also wear buttons saying "Text KEYWORD to 77948 for 20% off". This way even if they don't mention it, customers will still see your text message advertising.

      Other ideas for getting customers to sign up is doing some simple things like mentioning it on your website, adding it to your menus, table tents, flyers, your Facebook page, your Google Places page, creating a Youtube video, and more. The ways of promoting text message advertising is endless.

      If you have any more questions or would like to sign up and get started before your Groupon customers start coming in, give me a call at 800-555-1212.

      Thanks again and have a great day.

      Mike

      I'll be sending this out today and follow up again in a few days if he doesn't call me. Hopefully he'll see my persistance as a good thing.

      Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author deesangels
    When the prospect asks you a question, acknowledge and ask another question, like: Is or why is that important to you? if I assisted/resolved that for/with you can we go forward today? - Prospect questions are not free -- they have to pay with cash/commitment/or a close...

    Congrats on your efforts... It ain't over yet...
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  • Profile picture of the author redlegrich
    You can always try the time honored question: "What's it going to take to get you into a text marketing program today?". Ask the car sales person for help with this one ;-)
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