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Would you create a seperate page for each of these keywords?

by mrmatt
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Hello All,

Assuming you had a keyword like best electrician.

Would you create a separate page for each version of it on a local basis:

portland best electrician
best electrician portland
best electrician portland or
best electrician portland oregon

Also assuming there is no competition or very little (less than 10 results) when you put those keywords in quotes.

Assuming the content is spun to 100% uniqueness on each page.

Is that complete overkill?

Would or could this Pi** off the big G?

I have created one site like this so far with 38 pages of very similar keywords. Just finished it on Monday so I really can't say one way or another. And I have only distributed the RSS feed, did some social bookmarking and submitted the site map since then.

I would like to crank out some more sites but don't want to waste my time if this is an asinine way to go about things.
#create #keywords #page #seperate
  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Yes & No = )
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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMonkey
    Complete overkill

    In this situation simply use the other keywords as LSI's and mix the reworkings into your original pages of content. With low competition search engines you won't have any trouble ranking for all the keywords.
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    • Profile picture of the author rsteadm2
      Originally Posted by MoneyMonkey View Post

      Complete overkill

      In this situation simply use the other keywords as LSI's and mix the reworkings into your original pages of content. With low competition search engines you won't have any trouble ranking for all the keywords.
      It's a different strategy but I'm not sure that it's overkill.

      The search terms are low competition which means relevant content on a couple of different pages, will increase your chances of getting a couple of pages ranked for the same keyword, thus (I love the KJV) increasing your chances of click through.

      Using LSI's still only give a chance for one page to rank for one keyword. So I don't know if it is overkill or not.

      I do agree with you that it should be extremely easy to rank for all these keywords and a few more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dr Dan
    Yea I think it might be a little overkill.



    All that extra work freaks me out!

    I would just create the 1-2 pages at most and put the search terms in it and that should be enough since they are low comp.

    Alot of my sites show up on the first page in less than 24 hours and I only have 1 page most of the time I have less than 250-500 words written on the page.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Its not overkill, you simply hide the pages from viewers and then 301 redirect them to the home page.

    Not sure about the spinning part, you could just write unique content for each page tho.
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  • Profile picture of the author rsteadm2
    Originally Posted by mrmatt View Post

    Hello All,

    Assuming you had a keyword like best electrician.

    Would you create a separate page for each version of it on a local basis:

    portland best electrician
    best electrician portland
    best electrician portland or
    best electrician portland oregon

    Also assuming there is no competition or very little (less than 10 results) when you put those keywords in quotes.

    Assuming the content is spun to 100% uniqueness on each page.

    Is that complete overkill?

    Would or could this Pi** off the big G?

    I have created one site like this so far with 38 pages of very similar keywords. Just finished it on Monday so I really can't say one way or another. And I have only distributed the RSS feed, did some social bookmarking and submitted the site map since then.

    I would like to crank out some more sites but don't want to waste my time if this is an asinine way to go about things.
    Uh, no I wouldn't.

    But I would use those 'keywords' as anchor text to link to the site with all of those words on the page you are trying to rank.

    At least that is where I would start. You can always build them later if you need to but, I have had great success at getting top rankings for closely related keyword groupings, all ranked very well. Top 3 that is.

    Take Care
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  • Profile picture of the author SiteSmarty
    No. Just one page. Title would look like this:

    Portland Electrician - Find out who's the best Portland Electrician

    Description:

    Find out who's the best electrician in Portland, Oregon and why you should use them.

    Content:
    Image: best-portland-electrician
    YouTube Video: Best Portland Electrician
    Copy: Sprinkle your various terms lightly

    Something like that is better than separate pages.
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    • Profile picture of the author CleanMountainLiving
      Originally Posted by SiteSmarty View Post

      No. Just one page. Title would look like this:

      Portland Electrician - Find out who's the best Portland Electrician

      Description:

      Find out who's the best electrician in Portland, Oregon and why you should use them.

      Content:
      Image: best-portland-electrician
      YouTube Video: Best Portland Electrician
      Copy: Sprinkle your various terms lightly

      Something like that is better than separate pages.
      Yep...that's all there is to it. Why does everybody want to make everything so difficult?
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      • Profile picture of the author mrmatt
        Originally Posted by CleanMountainLiving View Post

        Yep...that's all there is to it. Why does everybody want to make everything so difficult?
        I guess I like to punish myself. Ha ha.
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        • Profile picture of the author CleanMountainLiving
          Well, Mr Matt - I think I need to rectract a bit.

          Your getting great results...hopefully the calls will come for your client.

          I like that method of creating your bullets and such as an image. Then you can change that image name on every page based on that page keyword, and have the same, highlighted content.

          In my best Jim Carrey..."I like it aah lottt"
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Contrary to some of the advice given already its not overkill.

    If you write the 4 pages and wait for them to get indexed you'll have 4 results on the first page of Google instead of just one, three of which just redirect to the main page.

    This is about increasing the chances of a click through. If you follow the advice by others you only stand a 1 in 10 chance you get clicked if you happen to not rank number one. And even if you rank number 1 its not a guarantee you get the click.

    So the idea is to reduce the number of different options a user has by having as many results on the first page as possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author rsteadm2
      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      Contrary to some of the advice given already its not overkill.

      If you write the 4 pages and wait for them to get indexed you'll have 4 results on the first page of Google instead of just one, three of which just redirect to the main page.

      This is about increasing the chances of a click through. If you follow the advice by others you only stand a 1 in 10 chance you get clicked if you happen to not rank number one. And even if you rank number 1 its not a guarantee you get the click.

      So the idea is to reduce the number of different options a user has by having as many results on the first page as possible.
      Have you got 4 pages from the same domain on page one of g00gle for anything?

      I have got several number 1 positions for the same domain but never 4 pages from the same domain. Even youtube only shows 2 or 3 video listings for a keyword and they are owned by g00gle.

      I understand getting multiple pages on the same keyword but these are usually from different properties not the same. I have had two pages rank for one keyword but that was a rare thing in my experience. It's much easier to compete against yourself with separate web properties on separate class c i.p.'s.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
        Hey rsteadm,

        Not only have I gotten multiple pages for a web site on page one of Google I also have the A,B, or C places position, images, and video.

        It is possible.

        Don't ask how I won't reveal my method free, but it is possible. = )

        What's really fun is when you find a good keyword phrase and you get a 1 box and then dominate over half the 1st page results with a combo of the above citations.


        Originally Posted by rsteadm2 View Post

        Have you got 4 pages from the same domain on page one of g00gle for anything?

        I have got several number 1 positions for the same domain but never 4 pages from the same domain. Even youtube only shows 2 or 3 video listings for a keyword and they are owned by g00gle.

        I understand getting multiple pages on the same keyword but these are usually from different properties not the same. I have had two pages rank for one keyword but that was a rare thing in my experience. It's much easier to compete against yourself with separate web properties on separate class c i.p.'s.
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  • Profile picture of the author traineeship
    Yes of course you have to create separate pages for that following keywords with proper description.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrmatt
      Thank you everyone for the insight on this. I truly appreciate it.

      Let me tell you how I have the pages set up.

      I used a software called MWsnap 3 to create images of the text an bullets I used on the home page. I then named this file the keyword and also used the keyword in the alt tag.

      I also have an ad that I had created that says pretty much the same thing as the text but in a really "pretty" format. Also tagged with the keyword and some other keywords.

      I also created a video and have it hosted on Youtube.

      The structure of each page break down like this.

      1. H1 Keyword
      2. Images of text and bullets from home page.
      3. Ad image
      4. You tube video
      5. Another photo relating to the keyword
      6. Spun content. I hand spun the content by rewriting each sentence 10 times and used a minimum of synonyms as replacing synonyms is where I find the weird stuff happening with spins.

      Just checked and for some keywords I do have page 1 spot one and 2 and in some cases the top 3 with the video. The video shows up for pretty much every keyword.

      I have a client that wants me to do this for his niche and I now have over 220 keywords for it. Yikes! But it could be a massive money maker if it produces phone calls and leads. For both them and me.
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      • Profile picture of the author rsteadm2
        Originally Posted by mrmatt View Post

        Thank you everyone for the insight on this. I truly appreciate it.

        Let me tell you how I have the pages set up.

        I used a software called MWsnap 3 to create images of the text an bullets I used on the home page. I then named this file the keyword and also used the keyword in the alt tag.

        I also have an ad that I had created that says pretty much the same thing as the text but in a really "pretty" format. Also tagged with the keyword and some other keywords.

        I also created a video and have it hosted on Youtube.

        The structure of each page break down like this.

        1. H1 Keyword
        2. Images of text and bullets from home page.
        3. Ad image
        4. You tube video
        5. Another photo relating to the keyword
        6. Spun content. I hand spun the content by rewriting each sentence 10 times and used a minimum of synonyms as replacing synonyms is where I find the weird stuff happening with spins.

        Just checked and for some keywords I do have page 1 spot one and 2 and in some cases the top 3 with the video. The video shows up for pretty much every keyword.

        I have a client that wants me to do this for his niche and I now have over 220 keywords for it. Yikes! But it could be a massive money maker if it produces phone calls and leads. For both them and me.
        Dude that's awesome.

        Great Job.

        One question, is the site getting traffic? Are the keywords searched?

        Again, Great Job on this one!!
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmatt
    Hey rsteadm2,

    I literally just got this site up and running on Monday and then did the bookmarking, rss feeds etc on Tuesday and have not checked the traffic stats.

    I can tell you that it has not generated any calls in the last 2 days.

    As far as the terms being searched. The GKWT says no searches. But it says that about pretty much every term I have ever put into it for my area so I only use it as a tool to generate my keywords. I do not rely on it for estimated search traffic.

    Only time will tell on this as to what is really getting searched and what is not.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Hey!

    Feel free to optimized just one page for all those keyword terms, or whatever the "real" terms your working on. Just hope some one who's willing to go just a few extra steps doesn't come in and stomp your results by taking up most of the other slots for ranking on the first page.

    The difference between just getting 1 slot on the first ten and multiple slots isn't that much extra effort, that's all I'm saying.

    So yeah, I have to agree to disagree with some of the advice by others. That doesn't mean they are wrong in ANY sense though. Just different perspectives on the subject.
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  • Profile picture of the author rcritchett
    Awesome answers so far. I'm kind of in this dilemma too. My situation is a bit different, however. I'm targeting 3 different cities, (like in my signature) and creating landing pages for each city doesn't seem like a bad idea. Still debating...
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