Pre made fan pages anyone?

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Hi,

I've found businesses that have no custom landing page and created them a fully custom design with like reveal and banner just to show what they can do. I then created a video explaining how it can help their business and not much interest. What gives?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Hi Smartsites,

    Is there any way you could link us to the video or page you're using to promote your services? That way we can give more focused feedback.
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  • Profile picture of the author Colm Whelan
    Originally Posted by smartsites View Post

    Hi,

    I've found businesses that have no custom landing page and created them a fully custom design with like reveal and banner just to show what they can do. I then created a video explaining how it can help their business and not much interest. What gives?
    WHY would they want one? What are the BENEFITS? Your post talks about showing what they can do but that's FEATURES. People buy benefits.

    The reasons people don't buy are multitude but usually boil down to a) they don't see the benefit OR b) they think the benefit is not worth the price or c)they simple cannot come up with the price

    How would the above apply to your prospects?
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
      Originally Posted by Colm Whelan View Post

      WHY would they want one? What are the BENEFITS? Your post talks about showing what they can do but that's FEATURES. People buy benefits.

      The reasons people don't buy are multitude but usually boil down to a) they don't see the benefit OR b) they think the benefit is not worth the price or c)they simple cannot come up with the price

      How would the above apply to your prospects?
      He said he creates a video "explaining how it can help their business", which would mean benefits, not features.
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    • Profile picture of the author VictorDamasio
      Originally Posted by Colm Whelan View Post

      People buy benefits.
      Sooo true!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ragz
    How many did you send out? How many actually reviewed your information? How was your follow-up phone call?
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  • Profile picture of the author smartsites
    Here is one of the videos:

    https://socialbedia.viewscreencasts....5564aedd2917ac

    I did 20 of these. I have talked to a few that sounded like they were interested but said they would get back to me. Others I'm still trying to get to the right person and not sure if they watched the video or now. I have not received any email responses back either.

    Thanks for the advice so far.
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  • Profile picture of the author cherry_b
    I made a post the other day talking about prospecting for businesses with no custom fan page. Out of 16, and with less investment than you are making, I got two solid leads.

    How are you finding these businesses? I explained that a key to having a decent response for me was finding businesses who were already using Facebook regularly - which I feel made a difference because they obviously already knew the value in using Facebook as a marketing tool.

    How are you finding your prospects?
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  • Profile picture of the author smartsites
    I've tried a few different ways. The first was to find people that were advertising on the yellow pages and or google ads and that had a fan page but weren't using the like / reveal custom landing page.
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    • Profile picture of the author cherry_b
      Originally Posted by smartsites View Post

      I've tried a few different ways. The first was to find people that were advertising on the yellow pages and or google ads and that had a fan page but weren't using the like / reveal custom landing page.
      I really think a key is to find businesses who are ACTIVELY using Facebook. A lot of businesses have a page and may even advertise it with the "Find us on Facebook..." jargon, but if they are actively putting posts up on a daily or semi-daily basis, I think they are much easier to sell to.

      Here's a post I wrote..

      http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...-services.html

      Especially if you are going to invest that kind of time on contacting them and presenting stuff to them, my opinion is I'd want to find the ones who do not need much convincing...if a business has a page but their last wall post was over 3 months, I move to the next.
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      • Profile picture of the author Scott Nelson
        Originally Posted by cherry_b View Post

        I really think a key is to find businesses who are ACTIVELY using Facebook. A lot of businesses have a page and may even advertise it with the "Find us on Facebook..." jargon, but if they are actively putting posts up on a daily or semi-daily basis, I think they are much easier to sell to.
        Cherry_b hit the nail on the head.
        ACTIVELY=easier sale,
        NON-ACTIVE=good luck they probably don't have a clue

        Many businesses have pages but they do not utilize them. I think the video should show much more of the benefit, describe the potential offer on the reveal page better.

        Beyond that there is a very good chance they have no idea what having a like can mean. I might be jaded but watching the video left me wondering why I want it to do what you propose.
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  • Profile picture of the author smartsites
    I guess that's my problem. I'm a designer not a marketer so I'm losing the battle here So what would you suggest I change in my video? Could you please give me an example? Thanks for all your advice everyone.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
      Originally Posted by smartsites View Post

      I guess that's my problem. I'm a designer not a marketer so I'm losing the battle here So what would you suggest I change in my video? Could you please give me an example? Thanks for all your advice everyone.
      First of all, this is a great realization. It seems like it points to a couple decisions you need to make, based on the recognition that the video is basically the same as a sales page, but made specifically for them, and delivered in video format.

      Decision #1) Are you going to work on really honing and making the copy great, or do you just want to slightly improve it (in other words, not spend too much time or money), and get into the mode of mass production, so that instead of sending out 20 and seeing what happens, you send out, maybe 20 a day for a month. If you get enough pitches out there, they need not be stellar to get you the clients you need, although obviously you want them to be as good as possible without making a career of refining them.

      #2) If you want to make it really great, are you going to become an expert at writing copy, or are you going to hire an expert? Similarly, are you going to work on your delivery (which was okay, but could be spruced up), or outsource the voice-over?

      It seems by starting this thread, you're leaning toward learning what you can quickly, and making some improvements yourself, but I just wanted to bring up other options, in case you hadn't considered them.

      Fortunately, all the resources you need are here, and I suggest looking beyond this thread for general advice on writing good copy. I think Darren Scott Monroe has a WSO on killer sales copy, and he's great at it. I'm sure there are a ton of others in the Warroom and WSO section.

      My 2 cents on improvements:

      Starting off with "My name is..., and we do..." is a sure way to get their resistance up, because they have heard a thousand pitches, and they all start that way. Instead, launch into talking about them and their page straight away, and mention your name casually after the first sentence, and try to blend what you do into the discussion of what they need, rather than as announcement. Don't put your name and what you do in the same sentence, even if it isn't the first sentence.

      I would stick to benefits everyone understands, and not everyone gets "branding". Better to talk about how it can bring them leads and customers. Better yet if you support that by actual examples of other businesses that have increased their bottom line from their fanpage.

      Toss "randomly picked". It just sounds too impersonal. Think of it like asking someone to dance with you. "Hi, I randomly picked you from across the room, may I have this dance?". If you work a complement into why you picked them without sounding too unbelievable, it would be great. That would mean a bit more research-perhaps look for firms that have positive reviews, and quote one, or something like that. If you don't want to go to the trouble, something like "I was looking at the facebook pages of several law firms, and I noticed...", just don't use the word "random".

      "Increase your likes, which is something you definitely want to do", should be turned into a benefit. Don't just tell them they "want to do" it without telling them why, and always connect it to the bottom line-more clients and more profits, and preferably with examples: "like such and such firm did last year, when they increased their client base by 23% just from their facebook page."

      You told them a couple times what they want to do, and should be doing, which makes it sound like you're adding to their work load. Just change your phrasing a little bit, especially "you should be doing"-never tell them they "should" do anything-sounds a bit parental, and doesn't make them feel excited. You want to go for excitement-not overwhelm-"should" is more likely to produce the latter.

      "A lot more things you can do with Facebook"-also contributes to overwhelm. Keep it simple and specific, and emphasize how easy it will be to make changes that will put more money in their bank account. I would steer completely clear of suggesting that they need to, want, or should to do anything at all, other than be ready to accept your expert guidance.

      I really like "this is like a mini web site inside Facebook"-I hope you'll keep that.

      Rehearse a bit more to minimize the aaahhs and umms. Try to get a bit more excitement and a "smile" in your voice. It sounds goofy, but you've probably heard it before, and it works-try doing it in front of a mirror and making sure you're smiling the whole time-people can "hear the smile".

      Hope that was helpful and you don't feel picked on-believe me there is nobody that sounds less smiley than me, if I don't make the effort when pitching someone.

      If I was taking your approach, I'd probably just hire someone from Fiverr.

      Keep up the good work-just a little tweaking and sending out a lot more of them could be just the ticket. You'll improve the quality and speed of the videos with practice, so even if you send 20 out with no response, no big deal, just make the next 20 faster and better. You might have a 5% response rate even with no improvements, but 20 just isn't enough for an accurate test-maybe you just had bad luck, and hit some businesses that aren't very receptive.
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  • Greg Guitar made some good points above - I'd like to add a few if I could -

    Trim your copy - The guy doing the VO sounds indecisive...too many uh, ah, hum & haw...in this case, his voice is fine, it just needs to perk up - write several sentences and bullet points that get to the point of the benefit, and pick up the pace and read the copy with a confident smile in your voice.

    Read it like you are positive these changes will help. The confidence will show in the voice.

    In order to sell them on why "likes" are important - they first have to like you and listen to what you are trying to relate to them. The voice needs to go with the flow and direct them to the salient point the cursor shows them...and how that is a benefit.

    Your Page is MUCH more dynamic than what they have now. Make them believe it.
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  • Profile picture of the author smartsites
    Wow. Thanks for the excellent advice. I agree with your points and will work on revising this. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author MrCake420
    Smartsites

    I cant pm since I am just a new member but I started this business yesterday with the idea of outsourcing all my fanpages. I am figuring out the marketing side, but already have a client that I need a fanpage for that contacted me today.

    Please email me grandshw at gmail.com so we can get started !! I am new at this so would love a bit of help through this first sale!!!!

    Talk to ya soon
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