3 simple tips to get ahead of your competition in offline marketing...

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Hi guys,

I landed a new (big-ticket) client yesterday (hooray ) and once again, when I asked the client why I got the project, it was because of the following little things that, strangely enough, most "offline" marketers seem to ignore.

Thought it might help some of you guys - so here we go. (This is basically something for face-to-face interaction, so don't read on if you're shy to talk to people.)

1. Let THEM do the talking. One thing I saw a lot when I was working with other guys - many, many marketers like to brag about themselves, their company, their knowledge etc. etc. WRONG! A simple, simple rule in life is: EVERYBODY loves to talk about THEMSELVES. Nobody likes a smartass sitting next to him. Especially when this smartass wants to get paid.

So what *I* do this: I ask questions (postive ones)! What about their latest projects? What was exceptionally good? Oh, did YOU have the great idea about .... ?

Not only will this make the client feel good ("oh, we had such a nice talk today...." even if you almost didn't say a word), but also you'll have more knowledge about the other side. What are they good at, what are they missing, what else might you offer them that was not planned in the first place.


2. Praise them! Nono, don't put your head up their ... - what you should do is to do a little research up front and pick something they "shine" in (the more specific, the better) and then, when you're having a light chat, mention that. "Oh, now that we're talking about email marketing... that last campaign of yours really was cleverly set-up; I was on your list to get some more info on your company and I liked it because .... and ... and ".

Everybody likes to be praised for their hard work, and if they realise that YOU actually value THEIR work, you'll get a big sympathy bonus. This works especially well if you know the person(s) in front of you are responsible (like head of marketing or something).

Don't overdo this, it needs to be honest. Don't tell their homepage is beautiful when it looks like from 1996.


3. Be honest. Client: "Can you do this?" - You: "Of course, that's my specialty..." (huh, WHAT was he talking about?)...

WRONG. For some reason, when it's about bigger project, people like it if you don't tell them you can do anything. Not THE expert in ...? Tell them!

"So listen Mr. Client, I'll completely honest with you: I could sell you this as well and tell you I'm great at it, but I feel like you would not be getting the best value. What I can do, though, is to recommend you to Mr. Specialist, who I've been working with for the past 5 years, who will do this at a great price and I'll personally take care that everything is done as you wish".

Works wonder! You might be afraid to lose the whole project, but in fact to show them that you're interested in DELIVERING top quality-work, and not in GETTING their money, makes you look like a professional.

During the debriefing I once again was told that those three things were pretty much the reason why they chose me. We had a "wonderful conversation" (almost didn't say a word, just asked some good questions), I seem "very knowledgable" (because I did my research), and they "appreciate my honesty" (because I basically told them that their XXXX (can't tell that) part of their business is a mess, but I would NOT be the perfect match to improve them, but know who is.

Hope it helps! Questions welcome!
Rob
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  • Profile picture of the author manny2513
    Totally true. Learned that the hard way. I lost a good client just for bragging. He didn't like to see that while he was busting his A$% I was making 5 times more just by sitting behind my PC at home. So since that day I concentrate on them and how great they are and how I can help them to be even greater. Ask questions and get them talking about themselves that breaks the tension and close the sale way more easy.
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    • Profile picture of the author theantihype
      I agree with #3. I can't count how many times I've been hired to clean-up the mess that a know-it-all created.
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    • Profile picture of the author RobKonrad
      Originally Posted by manny2513 View Post

      Totally true. Learned that the hard way. I lost a good client just for bragging. He didn't like to see that while he was busting his A$% I was making 5 times more just by sitting behind my PC at home. So since that day I concentrate on them and how great they are and how I can help them to be even greater. Ask questions and get them talking about themselves that breaks the tension and close the sale way more easy.
      Uh, that actually is a good point to add to the list. Never, ever let the customer feel that you earn more - I know some people who are providing services to customers, who actually own a "pleasure" car and a "drive-to-customer" car...
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Iannotti
    Originally Posted by RobKonrad View Post


    1. Let THEM do the talking. One thing I saw a lot when I was working with other guys - many, many marketers like to brag about themselves, their company, their knowledge etc. etc. WRONG! A simple, simple rule in life is: EVERYBODY loves to talk about THEMSELVES. Nobody likes a smartass sitting next to him. Especially when this smartass wants to get paid.

    This is probably one of the best pieces of advice given for sales..
    (This coming from a former U.S Army Recruiter)
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  • Profile picture of the author annemarieb
    Thanks Rob...This was an awesome post! I'm trying to soak in all the great info people share here..You know the ones who are actually doing it!

    Thanks again,
    Anne Marie
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Putt
    Some great tips, thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Glowrry
    I totally agree with all 3 tips you are sharing ......firstly thanks for sharing such a useful tips for offline marketing
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  • Profile picture of the author StepAhead
    Totally agree Rob, being a good listener is also important as a good speaker. listen them carefully make them trusty that you are really interesting in their project.
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  • Profile picture of the author juice
    Right on the money!
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    • Profile picture of the author digichik
      Really happy for you. Listening has become a lost art. Your post may help revive it, once others see how profitable a skill it can be.
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  • Profile picture of the author mariazz
    This is a great tip!..I agree with #2, because for me it help! We ourselves likes to be praised so if we include in on our strategies it gives a big bang!
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  • Profile picture of the author dminorfmajor
    Basically, the moral of the story is to go read (and take in) How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnagie. Best book ever if you're in sales or if you're just flat-out not pleasant to be around.
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  • Profile picture of the author sdentrepreneur
    Great tips...totally agree about listening to the client but...most the time, they don't even know what they want from a Internet Marketing Campaign. I do listen in the first meeting and then on the 2nd meeting, I offer solutions to all that they asked for and then provide additional ideas that they didn't know about.

    James
    P.S. I have stopped calling myself a Internet Marketing Consultant when visiting Networking Groups. When asked what i do, I answer with "I help small to large companies generate leads and sales from their web sites" Then...I stop talking and let them ask questions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Good tips--especially the "Let them do the talking." YOU should be talking 30% of the time; THEY should be talking 70% of the time.

    Every time I walk into a really technical sales meeting, and there are two or more people there to meet, and it's the first time I'm meeting with them, I bring a white board or an easel. What has happened before, if they've been shopping around, is that the other guys' sales team has jumped in, lowered the lights, and bored the **** out of the prospects with "The Presentation." These prospects don't want to see another Powerpoint!

    I set up my board or easel, look someone at one of the corners (power position) dead in the eye, and say, "OK. What are YOU looking for in results out of this project?" and get the ball rolling. After a short time we have a free-flowing discussion. I'm getting at real pain, real desires. While the other guys are fumbling around with Powerpoint and projection systems and blathering on about features & benefits the prospects don't care about in the slightest, I'm getting Exactly What They Want on the board. (Hint: the CFO doesn't care about the technical stuff, which is what most presentations are based around.)

    Get your prospects to TELL you what they want!
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  • Profile picture of the author WikiWarrior
    Originally Posted by RobKonrad View Post

    Hi guys,

    I landed a new (big-ticket) client yesterday

    1. Let THEM do the talking. One thing I saw a lot when I was working with other guys - many, many marketers like to brag about themselves, their company, their knowledge etc. etc. WRONG! A simple, simple rule in life is: EVERYBODY loves to talk about THEMSELVES.
    Rob
    Great points Rob, and congratulations on landing your new client . I remember one of my first meetings last year was with a used car salesman. I dressed up in a suit and tie and had this big pitch rehearsed hoping to impress them and worrying about remembering everything I wanted to go through.

    Needless to say I was incredibly relieved and also surprised to find I spent most of the time just listening to the guy talking about his business rather than proving I knew my stuff. By the time he'd finished talking he had sold himself and just asked how much it was going to cost. That was a real eye-opener for me and showed me that the hard-sell isn't necessary or even desirable in this type of business-to-business situation. I also ditched the suit from that point on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aptana
    Looks like some really good tips I will DEFINITELY need to put into effect.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Thanks for sharing Rob.

    Funny enough , from my experience, the bigger the customers, more they expect me to talk and tell them everything we can do for them, goals, timelines, budgets, etc etc. It ain't bragging, it's the truth, and they want to be sure they will invest large sums of money with the right marketing company and with the right plans. Beside, big corporations don't need to come to a marketing meeting braggin how good they are, etc etc.

    Meeting time is to discuss strategies, investments, goals.

    But thats just my experience after 7 years offline and working with solid companies all over Portugal. Everyone loves to brag, but that's done OUTSIDE the meetings, in lunches, dinners, coffee breaks, etc. And usually people brag on cars, beach houses and holiday destinations.

    lol

    P.S.: I see you're in Switzerland! I have family up there in Geneva. You near Geneva? Maybe we can get together next Spring when I get back there!
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidSmith01
    Hello Rob,
    Really, this is a very valuable topic you have discussed here. Great!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Detlev
    Good tips here!!
    Thanks!!
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  • Profile picture of the author cuppatea78
    Tip 3 is a great bit of advice. So many people claim to be able to ???? when in fact they haven't got a clue how to do it or provide a substandard service. Be honest, let them know that you don't specialise in it but know someone that does. also, if you get someone else to do it and you manage the process you can add on a little commission for yourself - though there is no need to tell the client this (you are managing it after all so why not get a little from it!). As long as you are not taken the piss everyone will be happy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Melvin San Miguel
    Great post... totally agree with what your saying,
    1. Asking questions - shows we care and remain in control of conversation
    2. Praise - people love positive feedback.
    3. Being honest - if you dont know the answer.. tell them,
    'what I do know is that I dont know!'
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  • Profile picture of the author RentItNow
    I fully agree with all of them.

    When I used to hire software designers I would ask two really determining questions and let them talk.

    To see what they were REALLY interested in I would say, "Tell me about a project you are REALLY proud of". If they smiled and told me a real story, they pretty well got the job.

    To see how they responded under pressure I asked them a very difficult ethical question, "If you realized the success of your work could put others out of work, would you still perform that work?" I did not much care about the answer as their emotional response and how fast they were able to answer it.

    The same when I walk into a store. They are testing you the same way! They are not in business because they made mistakes. They want to know you can handle the hard questions and want to see your excitement for their business.

    BTW, I think I have said it in other threads but #3 has landed my biggest single commission.
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    Honesty is still the best policy.
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