The Real Deal Offline Series: "Offline Clients Pay You $2,000 For Nothing?..."

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Hey Offliners,

If someone had told me three years ago that a business owner would pay me $2,000 to simply present them with several marketing plan options, while they make the decision on which one to take, I would've balked and called them a liar.

But, a response from kaniganj to my thoughts that I shared yesterday titled "I Do Offline Marketing, NOT Business Coaching" yesteday made me start thinking.

I'm paraphrasing, but he said that he doesn't tell a client what to do, but presents the client with several recommendations and then allows the client to choose.

At first glance, I almost disagreed.

Why else would clients be willing to pay me thousands of dollars per month, if not for my specific advice on what to do and how to do it?

But, as I reflected back on how I work with my clients, I realized he was right. He had accurately described exactly how I work with my clients in 99% of the cases.

I allow my clients to choose the direction they want to go in, even if it means they might not get the maximum results they want from the strategy or option they chose.

Why?

Because, ultimately it's their business and it's their neck on the line if things go wrong. Secondly, I don't know everything about everything, so they could actually be right. I've learned to listen just as much as I advise.

And like kaniganj said, if things go terribly wrong, they will bash the crap out of you to anyone who will listen. However, if they chose the direction and package, then a sane business owner will be honest enough to shoulder the responsibility that something he wanted to do didn't work.

Business owners are in the risk game, so they know sometimes they pick winners and losers.

Thankfully, in most cases the option my clients choose is one of the several I was suggesting to them, but they just want the marketing strategies completed in a different order than I would've done it.

That's not a big enough issue to tick off a client about, so I go with the flow.

However...

If a client came through my marketing funnel and had already prequalified themselves by selecting a specific service, I simply complete the project they want.

For example, if a client hired me because they saw my ad for creating a optimized Google Places business listing that generates customers, then I already know what they want and I give it to them.

However, when it comes to the next marketing service that I would present to them because I believe it would really help their business, then I give them several options and allow them to choose.

So, as you begin to upsell your existing clients or start to work with clients who need several marketing services, present them with your options and your recommendation, but always allow them to choose the package they want.

Hope this helps,

Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author M_Jones
    Yes this is a difficult balance to juggle.

    Often times I end up telling my clients "anything you want" and what they come up with is pretty sorry.

    Then they make excuses for example:

    "It has to look bad or else my clients won't use me because they will think i'm too expensive" or something along those lines.

    What ends up happening is the client is happy yet they still don't get results. Also, it means I can't show off the work in a portfolio, because they all look like crap, even though sites are made to exact customer specifications, while going back and forth with them in person.

    I even told all this to the last client before I started, and they said they understood, but we did things his way anyways, and sure enough, it comes out bad - I told him the site looks so bad that I'd instantly click off of it.

    So here is what I did. I said let me show you how I'd do it (remember, he already knows that client's suggestions result in negativity usually) So I did, and he was like WOW...
    The benefit is now they will want to see what else I have to offer, knowing that if it is coming from me it's going to be really really good, rather it be a Places listing, FB page, mobile version, QR code squeeze, etc etc.

    So I think that this is a very delicate balance; they hire you to do SEO/Design/marketing etc, yet you end up being Consultant, Business Coach, Adviser, etc. however nobody wants to be liable when stuff doesn't go as planned.

    I think that it comes down to 1 thing: Benefit of the Doubt.

    And according to the internets, to attain 'benefit of the doubt' 2 things must occur - 1) they have to like you, and 2) they have to trust you. If you don't have those 2 things going for you from your client, then you will not get their benefit of the doubt. If you don't have their benefit of the doubt, then anything you throw at them will be marginalized or disregarded.

    So basically, we mask as marketing gurus who are actually business coaches & consultants. Playing a coach or consulting role takes lots of knowledge of knowledge and knowledge of self. Crazy.
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  • I see where you guys are going with this - but we can all agree it is a slippery slope...you would probably take the brunt of the blame anyway, because you were the consultant in the matter, and they were paying for your expertise - They may regret not listening to you - but they may resent you for it as well...

    If you went to the Surgeon, and he said, we need to remove your liver, it is damaged, and the patient says, "how about if we remove my spleen first? That might remedy the problem...? Certainly the Surgeon will advise, "no - your problem is not in your spleen - we really need to fix the liver"...what is usual recourse for the patient if he does not agree? A second opinion. You don't want them to get a second opinion, so you are saying, "ok - we'll take out your spleen first, and when that doesn't work, you'll see I was right, and you should have listened to me in the first place..." If you know exploratory surgery is a waste of time, you would say so.

    The analogy might be a bit off, but you want to identify the specific problems and remedy that. What size bandage will stop the bleeding, or course of treatment is the options they have? If you have the plan of action, they don't need to think about it too much.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sue Bruce
      Is it ethical or good time management or best practice to give the client what they want if we know:

      a. It's so bad that it will be unlikely to help their business
      b. The back and forth will cost us money.
      c. They will "not require our services" in the future because the site did not bring in new business (we knew this)

      I have done a lot of consultative selling in the past. It's more time consuming and with web sites I find most clients do not know how they want the site to be designed and are open to suggestions.

      A small percentage have a poor idea or want to copycat a competitor's site.

      If I give them choices (Improvements) and use psychology, it sometimes works. I must find out why they want the poorly designed site so I can suggest those improvements and point out the "few small tweaks" (psychology again) that will benefit them and make sure they understand "why".

      Expert marketing consultants are worth every penny a company pays for advice that will increase their bottom line. We all do it, whether it's selling a package, upselling or trying to squash a bad idea.

      The big difference between us and you Chris, of course, is that we have to add that time spent into our price and you have a separate price for advice.

      Congrats to you for the hard work that got you to this point.
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