Offline Business Builders Series: "It's Okay To Start Cheap..Just Remember To Raise Your Fees ASAP!"

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Hey Offliners,

One of the things that aggravates me the most is when I meet with a prospect that thinks because they've been getting low-ball offers for $150 down and $99 per month to perform a certain marketing task, that I should be only be charging that much.

Now, granted this doesn't happen that much these days, there are still times when I'm trying to upsell an existing client and they try to use some low-ball offer to haggle me down.

In all honesty, depending on how I'm feeling at the time and how well I know and like the client, I may respond with a witty little comeback like..."Well, go with them then."

However, the few times that it has happened serves as blaringly obvious reminder that I might have screwed up my postioning somewhere along the way.

But, in most cases it's an example of a well-intentioned offline marketer actually implementing a pretty decent follow-up marketing system.

Except they neglected the part of the marketing class that talked about how lowest price leaders don't last that long because some other nitwit is always willing to go lower on his price so that eventually both each other out of business because neither one is actually making a profit.

The funny thing is if I'm able to get my hands on the emails or marketing pieces that the offline consultant is sending out to the prospect, I'm usually able to tell who's camp they came from and the offline guru's they're following.

So, I don't want to be like some offliners and talk bad about another offliner who is charging a crazy low fee for quality work...

But...

...I will say that it's business suicide if a offliner continues to build their little offline empire on the backs of these types of clients.

It took me several months of banging my head against the wall by targeting the worst type of clients before I realized that there's a market at almost every price point, including the higher ones.

I just needed to test and find a sweet spot that allowed me to make a good profit AND make my fees a relative non-issue with the clients that I wanted to work with.

So, if you're one of those offliners who is literally giving away the farm for dirt-cheap prices, I get it.

Just try to start raising your fees in a way that doesn't take food off your table, but also doesn't ruin your chances of actually building a sustainable business.

Hope this helps,

Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Yup. "If you feel that you'd be getting exactly the same expertise and value with that other provider at the lower price, why wouldn't you go with them?"

    Deflation!

    The attempt to knock down your price doesn't work if you really don't care whether your prospect wants to go cheap or not.

    If you've positioned yourself as the real expert and not the low-ball offer, you have nothing to worry about.
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  • Profile picture of the author Amir Luis
    Under Selling Your Services Breeds Resentment.

    I have done it... My first deal starting out. I sold a 15 page website with PDF Printable downloads, etc... $1000. I had no idea what I was doing. I just wanted to make a sale. I walked into this place only armed with the knowledge that I had picked up at the Warrior Forum in regards to how to build a website or how having a website can help business.

    I walked in with nothing and walked out with a check. I was so pleased with myself that I had closed a deal. I ran home as fast as I could and told everybody over at both the Warrior Forum and The Telemarketing Forum. I had a guy from the forums do most of the work. I had a friend do the graphic design on the print material. I ended spending more and more time on content and graphics. So much time that it consumed the greater part of a week that I could have been out making sales, but wasn’t. The good thing was I closed another deal the next day for $600 over the phone. So I had plenty of money to keep afloat, but the time I spent on the lage site made me bitter. I started thinking that I was being taken advantage of. I started running out of money and needed to get back to prospecting or I would be out of money soon, but I didn’t have time because I was working on his project.

    Here is the cool thing. I got really lucky here. When I went back to deliver the site and after showing them the multiple changes they requested. The owner gave me another check for $500. Whew.... Much to my relief. He realized that this was more than I bargained for, and he was getting a smoking deal. So he gave me $500 as a bonus. Man did that ever save my rear end. But if you undersell your services. I can’t promise the same thing will happen to you.

    The moral of the story is, “if you undersell your webdesign or SEO services, you will set yourself up for disappointment.”

    Starting out we just want to make a sale. We just want to make some money so we can keep going. I know that feeling because I have felt it. I know what it’s like to be told no because my prices were too cheap because I have done it. There are several web designers in my area that charge $2,500 to do a Wordpress Theme Customization. I bet there are people in you area charging the same if not more.

    So if I walk in pitching $300 to do the same work. It sounds too good to be true. Part of pricing your services is knowing what the market will bear. So you can easily sell the same website that you would do for $300-$500 because you just want to get the sale, for $750 - $1000 to the very same customer.

    Whatever you do. Do NOT go any lower than you have to on price!!!

    Feel Free to stop reading right now and call your local free press or newspaper. Inquire as to what it would cost to run a small business card size ad in the newspaper. Prices will vary depending on the market, but I live in a small town, maybe 500,000 people, and the cost is upward of $500 per week in the weekly free press. To see any real traffic from a print ad it needs to be run 4-6 weeks for repetition. So we are looking at $2,000 to $3,000 per month for a tiny ad that gets overlooked because it is so small.

    Now if I go to the guys that are paying $3,000 per month for ineffective advertising. I show them screen shots of targeted traffic and search volumes for their local market, and tell them I can place their marketing message in front of “this many” eyeballs every single month, and its only going to be $500 they are not going to believe me. You know the old saying. Generally speaking, “if something is too good to be true. It usually is.”

    Getting in the mind of your prospect you will know that most people in the offline world have old fashioned trains of thought. So making an offer that is too good to be true will actually do more harm than good.

    Just sayin
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  • Profile picture of the author rondeeb
    All good info. especially comparing what you offer to other advertising prices. Go in professional and CONFIDENT. It will come out in your presentation and the customer will realize you are not just another salesperson from some company trying to get a sale in. Hope your business thrives.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    This is why I think you should always price based on your time and what you are worth.

    If you are worth $100/hr and the project will take 10 hours I would quote at minimum $1,000 and likely quote it as $1,500 just in case they wanted a discount.

    If you price too low you undersell yourself and may have to take shortcuts on the project. They are paying you good money and deserve quality. So price in quality and do the projects. The big companies charge $100 to $150/hr for most of the things we are doing. So how come we have guys pricing themselves at $10/hr? Doesn't make sense. Maybe $25 for a beginner and $50 for a lot of others.

    A real business owner who wants to grow his business doesn't want cheap and unreliable people. They want people who will deliver at a fair market price and for web services that is $100/hr these days.

    How much you charging?
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  • I have made the same mistakes earlier on with pricing. It's hard to turn down money but now I know the value of what my services are and will not lower my pricing.

    I have lost a few jobs along the way, however, a couple of those same companies came back to me after they realized the guy who basically did it for them for nothing...didn't do anything.

    If I wanted to make $10/hr I could find a less stressful occupation in doing it.

    James
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    From what I've seen, most of those low offers come from the free classified sites. Craigslist and Backpage.

    I just say... Yes most pricing structures like $99 dollars etc. are what we find on craigslist. Do you really want to put you're company in the hands of a craigslist poster or some one who is professional enough to come out and actually speak with you?
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