Elevator Video Promotion - Need Input From True Marketers

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I just got off the phone with a chap from DataSphere. If you look at the link you can see what the service is about that he is trying to sell me on.

More or less, for $250-$550 a month I can have our drug rehab's 15 second promotional video played in high-rise elevators in Dallas 5,000-10,000 times a month. The audience averages $115,000 a month, mostly have insurance and work in stressful environments so have a high chance of having an addiction problem. --That was his pitch, at least.

I feel like, regardless of how well it actually works, for only $550 a month it would be great for branding, if nothing else. But we're really not focused on branding; just attaining new clients and making our money.

Nonetheless; even if we ran the ad for one full year, it would only cost $6600. If so much as three clients came from that year, 120,000 plays of our commercial, the campaign will have payed for itself and earned profit. But, being such a targeted niche of business, (and an audience that is basically impossible to target because they are so covert) it may not generate three clients. It's sort of a shot in the dark.

(One other thing is that if you go look at pictures of our facilities and ranch, I am not sure that someone who makes $115,000/year would be interested in the lifestyle we offer. Also, we don't have any real amenities. We have a labyrinth, half a basketball court, a short walking trail, and a volleyball court on hard dirt. It's more like a rinkey dink summer camp than anything.)


I'd like to know what you guys think. All of this considered, would you go for it?
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  • Profile picture of the author ScouterGuy
    I have never done marketing for a drug rehab facility, so it is a new world for me, but I have done quite a lot of healthcare marketing. There it was all about reaching doctors. You want to get the doctors to recommend your products and then you get clients. Would it not be the same for drug problems? Do you not first go to your doctor and he helps/direct you onwards? If so, then I guess you should rather look into direct marketing or perhaps cold calling doctors than elevator advertisements. For 500 Dollars you can get an Indian with great English that calls for you every day, trying to reach your ACTUAL targets.

    What happens to someone that works for a company when they discover they have a drug problem? Do they go to HR and tell them that I need some time off because I have a problem? Do they first get fired and then realize they have a problem? If a lot of people talk to HR to get the time off, then that would be a perfect department to talk to.

    Have you asked DataSphere if they have already worked with similar types of products? Health care products? Anything that you know would potentially be relevant? Perhaps you could get a reference that you can talk to and see if the promotion worked out for them?

    I would think that when you go into rehab, you want to escape your current environment, so would not a ranch be the perfect place to hide away? I do not think that is a problem.

    My concern is more around target audience. Lets say you have 5.000 people riding in the elevator a day. How many of those use drugs? 10%? How many of those 500 are at the stage where they actually want rehab? 0,1%? Depending on your margin it seems like its a long shot. I guess what I am really lacking in terms of knowledge is what is the selection process for a person when they select a drug rehab facility?

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    • Profile picture of the author Neodism
      Originally Posted by ScouterGuy View Post

      I have never done marketing for a drug rehab facility, so it is a new world for me, but I have done quite a lot of healthcare marketing. There it was all about reaching doctors. You want to get the doctors to recommend your products and then you get clients. Would it not be the same for drug problems? Do you not first go to your doctor and he helps/direct you onwards? If so, then I guess you should rather look into direct marketing or perhaps cold calling doctors than elevator advertisements. For 500 Dollars you can get an Indian with great English that calls for you every day, trying to reach your ACTUAL targets.

      What happens to someone that works for a company when they discover they have a drug problem? Do they go to HR and tell them that I need some time off because I have a problem? Do they first get fired and then realize they have a problem? If a lot of people talk to HR to get the time off, then that would be a perfect department to talk to.

      Have you asked DataSphere if they have already worked with similar types of products? Health care products? Anything that you know would potentially be relevant? Perhaps you could get a reference that you can talk to and see if the promotion worked out for them?

      I would think that when you go into rehab, you want to escape your current environment, so would not a ranch be the perfect place to hide away? I do not think that is a problem.

      My concern is more around target audience. Lets say you have 5.000 people riding in the elevator a day. How many of those use drugs? 10%? How many of those 500 are at the stage where they actually want rehab? 0,1%? Depending on your margin it seems like its a long shot. I guess what I am really lacking in terms of knowledge is what is the selection process for a person when they select a drug rehab facility?

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      It was insightful; I thank you.

      I am more of an internet marketer. I'm horrible with people and cold calling so it's not easy for me. It'd probably bring results, so I need to learn how to do so, but I just haven't reached that point yet that I'm willing to take time away from SEO for B2B relations.
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      • Profile picture of the author ScouterGuy
        Originally Posted by Larches View Post

        ... I just haven't reached that point yet that I'm willing to take time away from SEO for B2B relations.
        Well to be honest, I think for your business it is worth a lot more to rank high in the search engines than any elevator videos or cold calling. If you do decide to do something in the offline world, please come back and share, I would love to read about it.

        I think online is the way to go. I would suspect that the first thing people do when they realize they have a problem is to google the topic and see if they can find a suitable rehab center.

        Are there a lot of them out there like you? Have you ever read a news story or alike about it? I think it would make a good story for some newspaper.
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  • Profile picture of the author jayspann
    First let me say I commend you for looking into advertising. To many people just put up a site and do a little SEO and hope that the business floods their doors. It can happen but not very often.

    So lets talk paid traffic.

    Lets say that $7K is your target budget for a campaign. First only CocaCola has the money to blow for just the sake of brand awareness.

    If it were my $7K... I would focus on contextual advertising. PPV and PPC to be more specific. this traffic will/can get you targeted leads from people searching for your services.

    You will be able to laser target your services to your demo and psychographic and not just some random people stuck in an elevator (Aerosmith Song?)

    Hope that helps.

    Jay

    "It no longer makes economic sense to send an advertising message to the many in hopes of persuading the few." Lawrence Light, Former CMO McDonalds
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  • Profile picture of the author salmcdonagh
    the only opinion that counts is the people who see the ads and respond by becoming a customer, or ignore them. Everything else is just speculation. So to find out if this will work, you'll need to run a test.

    First I'd ask your current clients (you probably ask some of these questions already):

    * Why did they decide to quit now?
    * How did they find you?
    * What was it about your (presumably) online ad, and website, that convinced them to call you rather than any of your competitors, their doctor, HR or just do nothing and keep believing they could "quit whenever I want to"?
    * If they had seen your ad in an elevator, would they have noted your number or website address and contacted you, or would they have been paranoid that somebody might notice them watching and suspect they had a problem?

    Negotiate a one month trial to test your ads, even if you pay slightly more, and run two variations of your ad, based on what works for you online (if you have Facebook ads or Google Adwords banner ads on the content network converting for you, the those would be better at telling you what to use, as opposed to Google Adwords on the search network which is a different beast) and what your real clients have told you are the reasons they chose you - and the triggers that made them make the decision to try quit now.

    Make sure you use a different phone number and url so you can measure the effectiveness of the ads (you probably already know this, but I had to add it just in case) and can track your conversions back to their real source.

    Measure your return on investment, versus your other marketing channels. If it is profitable, but not converting as well or giving as good an ROI as the other campaigns, you can keep it for "branding" and maybe those extra clients would not have found you any other way. This way you help more people, and make a profit.

    If it doesn't work out profitable, then you have to decide if branding is worth anything in your industry. I personally think that branding is only useful for high ticket prestige items like Ferrari, Rolex, Nike, etc, or for low ticket repeat purchases like Coca Cola, Snickers, etc, but that is just an opinion - and has not been tested in the rehab market, so is no more valid than rolling a dice.
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  • Profile picture of the author RentItNow
    Just a curious question...are the people who's attention you are trying to attract the actual user who is likely in denial or their family/friends who have interest in getting them help? This would GREATLY effect the marketing approach.

    I remember those ads from working in the 22nd floor in Toronto. Dont know their response rate but it would be a thing to ask him. Also ask for a one week free trial and see what the response is yourself. Never know till you try. Just be sure to accurately track it, perhaps with a domain just for that and analytics setup.
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  • Profile picture of the author Neodism
    In one week free trial our ad would only pay about 1,250 - 2,500 times. And the guy also informed me that the complete 5,000 even includes constant playing through the night when no one was there.

    Furthermore; we have absolutely no marketing budget. The owner believes that you can just hire people and make it happen. It's definitely possible to work that way and still run a business, but it isn't easy. Try running a complete SEO campaign for competitive keywords with no budget. Luckily I invested in myself the last couple of years and have some good software. Otherwise it would just be me and a free Chrome broswer.
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  • Profile picture of the author vndnbrgj
    Personally, I think it's a terrible idea. The elevator is not the ideal situation to attract your kind of market. I know, when I am an elevator, I have a purpose. Whether I am trying to leave the building, or get to an appt. Something might sound great in an elevator, but as soon as the door opens, my mind goes right back to what I was doing. The reason I was on the elevator in the first place...Leave, appt, smoke, etc.

    However, if it does generate some good results, I know of a few malls with elevators.. ????
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  • Profile picture of the author Aussieguy
    I'm not sure about where you are (cost wise etc), but I'd be maybe looking at radio. Plus - that amount of money would get you a lot of flyers per month, that could be another option. Or posters in the right locations etc etc. I'd be going for as much free press as possible too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Squeeze
      I know this is a little off topic but that elevator video marketing could be good for promoting a high converting CPA or affiliate offer related to stress relief for instance.

      I mean even 1000 people seeing the offer every day would equate to 365,000 views every year. Now if you had a nice high converting offer paying only $15 and managed to get a 1% conversion rate from those views you'd stand to make $54,750.

      Anyway that's my 2c.

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