A Heartfelt Plea To My Fellow Warriors...

Hey, I am nameless, thanks man! I might consider the appointment setting offer. One of the main reasons for starting this thread is that I don't have the luxury, at the moment, of coldcalling to sell my own services, and risking the chance of getting the appointment and not making the sale. So, I'm looking more for some quick guaranteed cash gigs. That being said, do you have a good solid "pre-qualifying" script? What's your HONEST closing rate for a prospect that's been PROPERLY pre-qualified for you?

Mike

Thats very fair. You just sold me on yourself IAMNAMELESS , even more... Posers dont offer cold calling jobs, because they have no intentions of ever running an appointment!

So you are really doing this "evidently"... I knew that already by your dialogue, but its good to read between the lines and get this out of it.

Worth mentioning for others benefit.

Thanks, Racso! I'll be on the lookout!

Mike

Diana you dug up what I couldn't.

Does seem suspicious.

Best,
Ewen

Diana, that's what ended up leading to the recent success I've had. The priceless advice I got, particularly from John, helped me IMMENSELY, and continues to do so. I since went on to learn and combine that with more great stuff from Shaun(sdotspells), Mark Helton, etc. That thread REALLY changed things for us. The knowledge I gained from these great warriors even led to a cold walkin method I came up with myself recently (learned to think-outside-the-box), and it's worked terrificly well. Unfortunately, with dad's latest, and WORST setback yet, combined with these new sets of bills and what the insurance company's pulling, we've had a major setback. I know that once we make our move things will be great and I will focus ALL my energy back into the building of my personal biz. Until then, if I can utelize the limited time I have to drum up some extra cash for doing some work for my fellow warriors for a little while then great. We coud definitely use it. If not, then there's ALWAYS way. We'll get through this storm just like we got through the last one!

Thanks, Diana!

Mike

Hi s62731,

I can't send PM's but I'd like to send you a message - could you please PM me your e-mail address?

No "I told you so," but you do have a PM.

Never in a million years. You are an inspiration John

Big red flag to me too. I was wondering if you missed that LOL!

Seriously though Mike, you're in a bad situation but have the victim mentality. That isn't a good mix, and I know that because I've been in similar situations myself.

You're counting too much on other people.

This may be unpopular to say given the circumstances you're going through, but you can not count on anyone to pull you out of this mess except yourself. If you want it badly enough, you will take the risk. You will do what needs to be done, and pull yourself out. You don't need us to hold your hand, you're a big boy and capable of pushing through.

It concerns me you offered to do article writing, but unless you're a professional writer, you aren't going to make jack... If you NEED money, you can do what needs to be done. If I needed 10K by next friday, I would get it. I would start working at 8am, cold calling east coast businesses(im CST), after 3 hours I would switch to midwest businesses and would be working the phones until 8pm, maybe even later because we have hawaii and alaska to target too. After the 12+ hours cold calling, I'd send out emails to business since it is after hours. I would post craigslist ads. I probably wouldn't go to sleep until 2-3AM... wake up and get started on the calling again the next day at 8am.

You say it's too risky. Ask for the sale, simple.. don't ask for the appointment. You ask enough, you will get! Before warrior forum, I never even thought to ask for the appointment, I always went for the sale. Some people seem to think it's difficult to do that but when it's normal to me, it isn't that hard.

I think you have a real decision to make, and really think about it.

Can you help your dad more if you're broke, or if you're making money? Do you HAVE to be there every moment? If so, why don't you ask for the sale and not the appointment? I do business with out of state clients all the time, distance is never an issue. You can do it too as long as you aren't lazy, making excuses, and have the motivation to do it.

Not to sound harsh but I wasn't going to do the combined wso Anyway, I will with the other guy, but I had read the other thread already. Maybe if he didn't make it seem like this all just happened it wouldn't sound so 'suspect.'

Sorry for the double post..didn't think this one went through.

Not to sound harsh, but I already read his other thread and wasn't interested in a combined wso after that, I'll get into more details later but I'm on my phone right now and it's getting on my nerves lol
P.s. I'm changing the wso to a new service i've been selling that I have never heard anyone talk about before sorry lol

John I don't think he is saying he is afraid to sell. He says he has demonstrated his ability to cold call and sell.

His predicament is he cannot go out into the filed to sell as he looks after his Father full time so can only cold call from home at the moment which he is willing and able to do. I don't know his fathers condition but most certainly do know the strains and constraints of looking after someone whose health has failed them.

I feel poor Mike is being misunderstood.

See my post above

Riz

John,

That doesnt make you a Jerk...it just means you are being honest...and I agree with you wholeheartedly.

No it doesn't make sense as I don't see anywhere Mike saying he is afraid to cold call on commission, or am I missing something?

What he is saying is that he is afraid that if he makes the appointment for himself (ie from a cold call) he is afraid he may lose the sale as he most likely will not be able to make it to the appointment to meet the prospect.

At least that is my understanding.

And you are right, Iamnameless did not ask him to go run appointments, but he did mention that he could not understand why he wanted to cold call for others but not himself, so I wrote my understanding of it in my reply.

Riz

Riz, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. And, yes, what you've derived from my post(s) is definitely a big part of it.

Unfortunately, I let some pretty heavy personal things take me out of my game lately. All of a sudden, because of my dad's health turn combined with some horrible financial slugs in the face that we never even saw coming, I flat out lost my confidence to sell...I began to let negative thoughts creep in and take over and, as we all know, that's DEATH to a salesman. All of a sudden, I couldn't sell a DAMN thing! And, I began to say things to myself like "what if I finally do land a meeting and something happens to Dad while I'm gone? Or what if I go to the meeting and I DON'T make the sale?"...

Since I FINALLY found my formula for success, thanks, in a WAY LARGE PART, to John, I NEVER EVER have those thoughts. I ALWAYS make sure dad's in good hands and I go to the meeting FULL of CONFIDENCE and then, normally, I make a solid presentation and, 70% of the time, I kid you not, I make the sale! And why do I have so much confidence, normally, when I go to these meetings? Because I made that VERY FIRST SALE. It took me 93 calls that first day and I was just about to give up and call it a day and something inside me said "NO, Mike, you're 7 calls away from 100, you've been told OVER and OVER again that you MUST do 100 MINIMUM!". So, i took a deep breath and "dialed" (I still use my cell phone) and, guess what? 2 calls later, number 95, I landed my first meeting and closed him the very next day! A boxing gym for $700 bucks. $350 up front and $350 when it's done.

You should've seen how frickin thrilled I was! lol I just kept thinking "wow, it works, the formula works, it really works!" Not that I doubted it, mind you, but until you've experienced it for yourself it seems like...well...mythical, i guess. And I can still tell you the date of that first sale...tuesday, january 3, 2012!

And pretty much EVERY time I've managed to hit that magic number 100, ever since, good things have happened!

So, having let my confidence and drive get shaken lately has been tough, to say the least! Every week was getting better and better and better and, in one fail swoop, I let some things, albeit pretty heavy, poison my mind and I flat out lost that beautiful confidence I'd developed. That kind of confidence that SUCCESS breeds. And then i let that lack of confidence show here.

BUT...just as quickly as I lost It, I just found it again! Crazy how life works!...I think I mentioned earlier that I woke up today to a phone call from a guy named Tony, who I had cold-called 2 months ago to try and sell him a website. After numerous follow-ups, I finally gave up on him. Then, out-of-the-blue, just when I needed it most, he calls me this morning! He's ready to do it now, just paid me $600 bucks, cash I might add, today! The other $600 bucks I'll collect next week when the job's done. After final approval. Talk about snapping me out of my doldrums!

Oh yeah, AND, he's not QUITE sold yet, but I'm HIGHLY confident I'm going to sell an insurance agent I cold-called recently a 20-pack of Individual health insurance leads for $25 bucks to test and then $35 bucks per lead thereafter, per mr. Durham's fabulous war report vol. 3. Got an email from him a couple hours ago. Wants to talk on monday! So, wow, I guess the moral to this story is, no matter what life throws at us, we've GOT to DIG DOWN DEEP and perservere.

I'm a HUGE believer in things in this life happening for a reason. i don't know why I let myself get so frickin "crippled" by these latest personal catastrophes, for lack of a better word, but, what I do know, is that I will be STRONGER for it!

Anyway, dad's still in a bad way and those new financial woes are still there and it's DEFINITELY very, very tough at the moment, but, thanks to this forum and a guy named Tony and a guy named Phil (the insurance guy) I've regained my confidence and I will only get STRONGER from here on out. I truly believe that!

With all sincerity, I can't WAIT to start hittin the phones again on monday!

I'm going to be stronger than over for my dad (and myself!)

This has been a very interesting thread! lol

Mike


p.s. I know it's a cliche', but...man, what a difference a day makes!

THANKS, John! Don't know what I'd do without ya!

Mike

Thanks, Deidre!

Mike,

I am starting this post with the belief your father is as ill as you say. I don't know if he is or isn't and it doesn't make any difference because I elect to believe he is. With that said let me talk about caregiving.

I am an expert in the field. For anyone who wants a free caregiver manual to understand the complexeties, time, energy and involvement with caregiving I direct you to my site:

Senior Citizens' Help And Resources

That is NOT an advertisement as I don't give a royal rat's ass if anybody visits it. The usual caregiver in the United States of America is a family member. Almost always it is the wife as we men, you know the stronger sex, seem to fall into disarray the earliest and fastest.

If you are in that position, and I was w/my mother, you will experience the joy of giving and very rarely receiving. I happened to be on active duty at the time and going through a divorce. Not crying on your shoulder but to read some of the posts why you won't help Mike makes me puke.

Walk a mile, forget mile, make it ten feet, in his shoes and you'll be a screaming raging fool. Yeah he wants a job paying an hourly wage because he can't afford the time to be away from the caregivee, his father. At least it is a stream of income.

To go a step further, because I am the E.D. of the above ministries, I am priveleged to hear about caregiver's problems. At the head of the list is lack of revenue. I've had people tell me they are losing their house because they can't pay the mortgage, they had to cut their work hours from 40 a week to 20 a week and on and on and on.

We are a NV non-profit with limited resources so it is impossible for us to help everyone. However when we do, you should be standing there to see their faces.

Regardless, and again if Mike is for real, the real issue is his caregiver status. I would suggest anyone wishing to feel the pain volunteer at a local "old people's home" for one morning. Better yet, go to a children's ward on any hospital. You'll really feel the pain.

Now, either you are gonna help the guy or you aren't. Makes no never mind to me. I'm finished with my rant.

If I have offended anyone, tough. Toss me off the forum. Never talk to me again. BFD.

BTW, I do realize it is your money he is asking for and you can do with it as you please. However why write negatives about him? Does that solve anything? If you think he is a scam, go to another thread.

Oops, I said I was done. I am now.

God bless you all,

Tom

Your right again, John!

I talked w/Mike via email. Found out he lives about 3 hours down the road. He also downloaded the free manual I mentioned above and evidently took heed of some of the advice.

Hopefully his plan will free up his time as well as provide for his father. If the follow through goes as thought, there is no reason why he can't be back on his A game by the end of April.

For one, I'm crossing my fingers and toes and believing it will. I always like to hear a fellow warrior has pulled through tough times or at least has the very real possibility of making it.

Tom

John,

I know you will. I've seen you help others before. I also understand the statement that was present. Caregiving makes us do, and sometimes say, things we wouldn't have otherwise. My idea was to present, again if he is honest, what the caregiver side looks like. It ain't pretty.

As always,

Have a great day brother.

Tom

I agree w/you in that email is the correct route. And, like you I"m back in the H2O as well. Send it along brother and we will commence to commence.

Tom