Setting up Mall Kiosk for web services...thoughts?

That sounds expensive and very untargeted. The small mall that is in my town costs $3500 a month to rent a small station in the middle of the place. You would be spending your money much better by sending direct mail to businesses.

Man... you guys have to learn that you can NOT guarantee positions in Google and it's actually illegal to promise something you can not guarantee.

As for the kiosk itself. Bad idea... why? Because it's going to cost a lot, in price and in time. Do you have time to sit up there 12 hours a day every day? Can you afford the 3,000+ it's going to cost monthly? Are you going to make any return on the untargeted traffic you get? Probably not. You can spend that on adwords and have at least a 200-300% ROI on the low end. You can spend that on direct mail... and have even better. You can spend that on chamber or bni memberships and do better while spending less. It doesn't make sense to me, don't do it.

it's not illegal to guarantee first page ranking... the guarantee just means you will give money-back ...
well that would be money-back guarantee and is obvious what you meant. I think however with nameless that its a terrible idea. I think if one could always get a 2-300% return from adwords though everyone would be doing it. I do agree with nameless though that your money could and should be used much more effectively elsewhere.


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I say go for it if you want teen girls, house wives, and window shoppers as your customers.

Kiosk is for RETAIL sales items to retail consumers. You'll be VERY lucky if 1 out of 300 people going to the mall is a business owner or even some one who's employed that can make a decision at the kiosk.

Bad idea, sorry to say.

I was in the mall kiosk, seasonal retailing business for 10 plus years.

I can tell you that there are many different types of businesses that are successful in the malls.

Real Estate Companies, Accountants and Tax Preparers, Dentists, Chiropractors, Bathroom Re-modelers, Roof Gutter Systems, Satellite and Cable Companies, Insurance Companies, Investment Services, Landscapers, Lasik Eye Surgery, House Cleaning Companies, Sun Tanning Companies, Car Dealers, Rv Dealers, Boat Dealers, Window Washing Companies, Hearing Aid Companies.

These are just a sample of the different types of companies that have made kiosk advertising a part of their marketing efforts.

Like anything else in a lease contract, everything is negotiable.

You can have a month-to-month lease, lease by the day, lease by the weekend, manned Kiosk lease, un-manned Kiosk lease, the list goes on and on, depends on the mall.

I had one Mall where the rent was only $100 a month, I could man the kiosk or not, my choice, I sold Health Insurance and Medicare Advantage Plans out of it. I worked it 6 to 12 hours a week. I still get phone calls from the pamphlets that were on display at that kiosk and it hasn't been there for three years.

I have a friend of mine that started his auto insurance business from a kiosk right outside of the secretary of state's office. How's that for targeted niche marketing?

Can you sell website and SEO services out of a mall, certainly. Will you be successful, depends on your definition of successful.

You meet all walks of life in a mall, including business owners and/or their wives, any opportunity to get in front of people to fill your sales funnel is in my opinion a good marketing opportunity. It's all about the ROI you receive for the investment of your time, money and effort.

If I were to go into a mall to sell any service today, I would make sure that I had some type of a referral program in place so people in general would have an incentive to help you sell your services.

A lot of those teenagers running around the mall have parents that are small business owners, or work at jobs that could use your service.

Have a huge sign that says make $100 fast, ask me how, or something to that effect, just to start a conversation. You never know which seed you plant will produce a crop, but you have to plant seeds before you can have a crop.

I wouldn't listen to anybody here who has never been into seasonal retailing or kiosk marketing. Make a few phone calls and find out what the rents are in the malls in your area, if they have any empty kiosks on the floor or in storage, you can usually get 50% or more off of your rent. You just need to ask, and be willing to walk away.

Also, empty store fronts will fall into this catagory, some of those can be had real cheap.

Personally, I always walk past kiosks at nearly every opportunity. Nearly all of them (at least in the malls we have around here) typically have some teenage kid desperately trying to flag down people to sell them something they don't need. All of the others are slanging cheap wholesale items (i.e. cell phone accessories, off-brand sunglasses, etc).

Am I saying that this won't work? No, because technically anything is possible, but I think there are better ways you can use your money. I don't see many business owners strolling up to your kiosk on a weekend when they are busy shopping with their families to pony up $4k for a website.

Let's be honest - $4k isn't exactly a "drop in the bucket" for a majority of local small business owners, either (not ALL of them, but definitely a considerable number). If you're looking to target high-end businesses that have that kind of money to spend on a website, a kiosk in the mall is the last thing I would consider.

There are MUCH better ways to run your campaigns. More targeted ways, with more volume (and) that take up less time and resources.

Even if you don't use a kiosk and hire someone on craigslist to hand out fliers at an airport, business district, chamber meeting, golf club, wherever...there is only so much exposure that you're going to get out of that, not to mention, your campaigns aren't going to be nearly as targeted as other methods.

I've done kiosks twice, with sweepstakes entries for my remodeling company and all I ever got over 6 months of it were credit rejects, people putting their friends or enemies on the cards, and 'funny' notes.

it is all about the proper marketing!

are malls for teens? hell no!!

1 adult will spend 10x more than a sh!?y teen (sorry)

all you need is just 2 or 1 client a week.

iamnameless... I want to get back to the adwords comment. I want to know if you guarantee results to your clients for that since your an expert that turns 1k into 4k I think you said? Also, how much do you charge to quadruple money like that? Final question is when can I start giving you all of mine?

With that kind of return we could all be millionaires in no time. I don't know much about adwords but I am quite a mathematician.

I do think the mall would be a bad idea but I don't suggest I know anything about that either.


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You might want to brush up on proper marketing.

With proper marketing you wouldn't have to worry about what location you are at. You can better spend that mall money on postcards and go to appointments without an office. That's much more effective.

How would you be able to even go visit a prospect if you are stuck at the mall all day?


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I see what your saying... thanks!!!


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I've spent 1,000's of hours in malls with my family's clothing store, and I don't think it's the best place to sell Internet services to businesses.

The opportunity cost is too high. While you or your employee is sitting in the mall from 9am to 10pm some other B2B salesman is dialing numbers on the phone, selling door to door, and mailing out letters.

Truthfully, you will probably only come across a business owner twice per day --- around lunch time and around dinner time.

With all that said, give it a shot.

I would rather hire a sign twirler to dance on the street in front of a business center!

That would be creative and more likely to get a business owners attention.


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humm... as a result we have really good conversation

I only speak out of experience... I used to rent two kiosks when I was 21 and the rent ran around 3k/month.

I'm in the offline business now and I personally wouldn't recommend it because most people who are at the mall are there to take their stress out and just shop around. The last thing they want to think about is their business once they're at the mall.

Plus kiosks are really good for impulsive buyers.

You also would need to discuss with the mall to see if you can bring in this service to the kiosk. The less busier they are, they don't care too much about qualifying. But if it's a busy mall, they'll try to go through a long ass process.

Another game... you have to rent for minimum 3-6 months!

Test it out and see if it works out. If it does, please let me know so I can start my kiosk empire again! BEST OF LUCK TO YOU!

Yeah I guess in the end it's a BAD idea...oh well. Thanks guys!

Setting up a web kiosk is a good idea. I think it really good to have software tool as it helps us the best way possible. It is really needed today.