Need help with my script and CLOSING..fedup

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I've been listening to a lot of advice here and took action a while ago and started calling businesses with old websites to do a redesign.

I used the "unsure method" by Jason K which worked quite well.

"Morning my name is X and I'm calling from Y, I would like to speak to the one managing your website, but i'm not too sure what do I look for, how you help me with that"

Even though I didn't get past the gatekeeper who ask me what's it about, my following statement below usually do:

"I found your company on ____ (directory site) and came across your website. It looks really outdated and I'm not sure if that's what you'll like to portray to your potential clients?"

After speaking to the person IC (or person i thought was IC),

"Hi X, will this be a bad time to call?" (Thanks to a warrior for this, worked relatively well)

"My name is X and I'm calling from Y. I found your company on ____ (directory site) and came across your website. It looks really outdated and is that what you'll like to portray to your potential clients?"

"What we do is we can redesign and revamp your website to portray a more professional image of your business to your clients".


1. Im not interested.
2. ..small talk in between..trying to fish out buying signals..
(Finding a flaw here, i'm not sure how do I direct them to the close)

"We will do a complete redesign from scratch in accordance to your requirements and we'll even transfer everything from your old website to the new one for free. We charge at $XXX and we can help maintain your site at $49 per month, first month free of charge"

1. Would you like to get started today (0% success so far)
2. Can you tell me what sort of ideas you'd like for your new design, layout..colors..? (Usually a blow off from here ending with "i dont know, how about next time")
3. ???


If they ask for a portfolio, I followed Jason's advice here which worked well.

However when it reaches to the closing, i stumble all over the place. I have absolutely no idea what to do. My payment solution is getting them to click on the paypal link in the email i sent them or pay via bank transfer. They need to be at the computer.

After recording their ideas and concepts, I have no idea how do I convert to the closing portion. Even if I got lucky and start talking about the prices, whenever they hear "pay", it seems like they all defensive and start to "how about next time","i need to talk with the director" etc.

I haven't made a dam sale and I'm not giving up yet, more numbers to call but I'm feeling what I'm saying is wrong and need assistance in transitioning to close smoothly.. ABC right..

A lot of setbacks where i totally BLEW OFF 2 clients where this guy was already ready to pay and wanted to see a portfolio of what I did previously with his niche and I was unable to show him and stuttered a bit and led to a "sorry not interested" that's when I literally banged my head...

Absolutely HATE doing this but just sticking with it hoping it works. Sometimes gets so confused in life to what to do if this doesn't work out which stresses me out. I wasn't a born closer, but that will not stop me from not trying to improve. Thanks guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    So how many days have you been practicing this? Are you doing this in English or another language?

    I suspect you sound very unconfident. That's a factor. Don't worry, keep at it. Don't put your whole personality on the line every time you make a call.

    Your line about "a more professional image" isn't a good hook. It's obvious that you don't have an order of steps to your calls and you're stumbling around. I'm not saying this to beat you up. But you do need a consistent sales process.

    Your job is to qualify FIRST, find people who already believe their site is outdated or not doing what they want.

    THEN sell. "My solutions are customized for each market. What I did for someone else would have no relevance to you; just as what I do for you won't work for anyone else. Your customers are your customers, and what they'll respond to isn't what somebody else's customers will. Make sense?"


    Imagine receiving a car without knowing how to drive one. You get in. After fumbling around for 10 minutes, you finally figure out how the ignition key works. Then it takes you another 5 minutes to realize you have to remove the parking break. Suddenly the car is in gear and moving forward! You get excited and put your right foot down. The car is now zooming forward violently! Wait, why did that happen?--CRASH You run into another vehicle!

    That's exactly what it's like, selling without a process.
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  • Profile picture of the author abelamorales
    Use investment instead of pay.
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  • Profile picture of the author HAdrian1239
    How many calls have you made? Just wondering. One call closing takes a while to learn, and a while longer to really master... I switched to appointments myself for now just because I need the capital faster than I had been able to learn with the limits I had on my call numbers.

    That's about to change, and I feel more comfortable on the phone all the time... but it's a process.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    I would ask for the owner first, and then if they ask who you are go into the unsure bit, which is classic. However , if you ask for the owner first then you will get past alot more without having to go into the other... You will surprised how many will say "sure, hang on let me get him" "IF" you give them the chance to say it.

    If they say , what is this about?

    Then I would say, well Im not sure who I need to be speaking with about this but we are a web design company and...go for the pitch...If there has been any buzz in the office about web design she will say "sure, let me put you through to...".

    Thats one way, there are many. The unsure thing works too.

    Here's the truth, different things work on different folks and the method you use will only get you through the ones that THAT method works on...So, in agreement with Jason, just dont give any one call that much energy, and be polite, keep going and the person who responds to YOU will show up somewhere along the line.

    The numbers are too large for you not to be able to relate to at least one out of 100 people.
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    • Profile picture of the author Unisons
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      So how many days have you been practicing this? Are you doing this in English or another language?

      I suspect you sound very unconfident. That's a factor. Don't worry, keep at it. Don't put your whole personality on the line every time you make a call.

      Your line about "a more professional image" isn't a good hook. It's obvious that you don't have an order of steps to your calls and you're stumbling around. I'm not saying this to beat you up. But you do need a consistent sales process.

      Your job is to qualify FIRST, find people who already believe their site is outdated or not doing what they want.

      THEN sell. "My solutions are customized for each market. What I did for someone else would have no relevance to you; just as what I do for you won't work for anyone else. Your customers are your customers, and what they'll respond to isn't what somebody else's customers will. Make sense?"

      That's exactly what it's like, selling without a process.
      English, but when someone answers that speaks in my second language (which I suck at), i'll just give up and just ask if theyll like to do a redesign without all the pitching and all that and just hope.

      I totally agree with you on the process, it stinks. I tried qualifying them by asking if their outdated site is what they'll like to show to their customers. If "yes", im just going to let them go. If they're like "yea it's pretty outdated" / "price/package?" i go on from there.

      I'm guessing businesses will link themselves with "professional" so I gave that line a go, didn't know it wouldn't be much of a hook...

      I've got numerous occasions where we talk about the fees and their concept and how they want a new website, but I always blow it off from there...

      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      I would ask for the owner first, and then if they ask who you are go into the unsure bit, which is classic. However , if you ask for the owner first then you will get past alot more without having to go into the other... You will surprised how many will say "sure, hang on let me get him" "IF" you give them the chance to say it.

      If they say , what is this about?

      Then I would say, well Im not sure who I need to be speaking with about this but we are a web design company and...go for the pitch...If there has been any buzz in the office about web design she will say "sure, let me put you through to...".

      That's one way, there are many. The unsure thing works too.

      Here's the truth, different things work on different folks and the method you use will only get you through the ones that THAT method works on...So, in agreement with Jason, just dont give any one call that much energy, and be polite, keep going and the person who responds to YOU will show up somewhere along the line.

      The numbers are too large for you not to be able to relate to at least one out of 100 people.
      You mentioned go for the pitch to the gatekeeper, would you say my line about their site being "outdated and not sure if that's what theyll like to show to your customers" being ok?

      Originally Posted by John W.G. View Post

      Sounds really good, but I need to get a darn customer first. Good idea to be implemented though\\


      EDIT: I know what I'm lacking, the ability to create urgency and how it should be done today.
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      • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
        Originally Posted by Unisons View Post

        EDIT: I know what I'm lacking, the ability to create urgency and how it should be done today.
        Its not HOW, its WHY

        and the WHY is always the same. They are losing money Period.

        They are in business to make money, and if they don't have a website
        they are losing money.

        If they have a crap website, with bad grammar, no call to action,
        no tracking, or just a bad experience for the user, they are losing money

        Your job, is to remind them why they are in business,
        and then use the greed factor to create urgency for the one call closes

        FIND their hot buttons, if you don't ... you will never be able to one call close.

        its not always greed, but when you are selling businesses, a high percentage of them are.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas_Banks
    Hey Unisons. I think I can help you out here. Or at least give you some food for thought.

    I've done ALOT of what you're doing here and the frustration of it all made me throw my hands up in surrender many times! But, as it is not in me to surrender, I kept at it and sought out some help like you are now.

    Here are the challenges you face:

    1. Business owners are busy. Crazy busy. The chances that you are going to randomly catch them at a time when they are not intently focused on something completely unrelated to what you're calling about are slim to none. If you are married to the idea of one call closing, be prepared to melt your phone.

    2. They get that same phone call 16 times every week. The gatekeepers are good at what they do. Gatekeepers love to waste your time by pretending that they have decision making powers and can keep you on the phone for as long as you are willing to pitch to them before they exercise their vast power with "Leave your information and we'll call you if we're interested."

    3. Most business owners have no idea what their website is supposed to do besides exist. They don't know that they can and should be using their website in a very specific way to accomplish very specific goals much less how to do that.

    While we see a component of their marketing mix that can be significantly improved and add a great deal to their bottom line, that point is nowhere on their radar. They don't usually perceive any problem with their website nor do they understand the potential gain that can result from improving their website. It is difficult to sell a solution to a problem that your best prospect doesn't perceive as a problem.

    You will probably find life to be easier and more profitable if you target businesses who ARE making the attempt to put their site to work for them. The sites you find that need the most help are the prospects LEAST likely to hire you.

    I could go on and on about this (yes, even more than I already have), but I'll just leave you with a couple tips that have helped me turn the corner.

    1. Focus on the things that your prospects perceive as a problem and what they perceive as the solution. Sometimes their wrong (most of the time, actually), but that is the only way to start a dialogue with them.

    2. Focus on the prospects who show interest in actually using their website as a part of their marketing or sales process. You can get a good idea from looking at their site whether they give a crap about their website or not.

    3. Use a multi-step process. Start a dialogue to generate a lead and follow up with them systematically 1) exacerbating the problem (that they perceive), 2) selling the IDEA of the solution, 3) building desire for the result, 4) presenting your service as the solution that will get them that result, 5) illustrating your difference from every other web designer that called them this week as well as the crappy ones who they hired in the past, 6) building trust and establishing credibility by using your portfolio, testimonials, professionalism and a display of expertise, 7) showing them how easy you are to work with and that you will be there for them after the sale, 8) build the value of what you do with hypothetical (but realistic) before and after scenarios, comparisons to a service they already pay for that has a lower impact on their business, etc, 9) Close by summarizing everything they have agreed with you on thus far, i.e. "So, let's sum this up and see where we're at. You obviously understand the impact your website can have on your business (yes). I am understanding that it's important to you from seeing the efforts you have already made (yes). So, the main things I could help you with, if I understand correctly, is to provide just a little extra guidance in how to make your website accomplish it's task as efficiently as possible with as little babysitting as possible and to redesign it to whatever extent necessary in a way that best achieves your goals. Am I understanding your needs correctly? (Yes) Maybe you could expand on those things a little more so that I'm sure I haven't over looked anything."

    Get what I'm saying about the close? You want them to reiterate their agreement about their needs and then get them to tell you how they want you to help them. At that point they, unbeknownst to them, have all but agreed to hire you.

    Targeting the right prospects and delivering the right message to them at the right time is the key. That will actually have a much more significant impact than which ever closing script or formula you use. (However, the close I illustrated seals the deal around 30 - 40% of the time. It is dependent on your message,though, which is dependent on your targeting.)

    One more tip: Consider sending a direct mail piece or doing a free webinar or live workshop educating potential prospects on the many uses of their website that will have a positive impact on their business. I started with a free webinar which I promoted (at no cost to me) through several chambers of commerce. I offered a free download which was a companion to the webinar and contained the main ideas as well as a check list for setting their website up to perform specific tasks for them (generating leads, educating customers, delivering sales messages, etc.) I them followed up with them through a well structured email sequence. Once a prospect has shown a certain level of engagement I send a postcard inviting them to have a free 15 minute consultation at which I intermingle my suggestions with my pitch.

    So there are a few bones to chew on. I'd be happy to elaborate if you'd like. Just post a reply. Hope that helps in some way.

    Thomas
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    • Profile picture of the author stopgo
      "Hi X, will this be a bad time to call?" (Thanks to a warrior for this, worked relatively well)
      I don't even ask that question, it is always a bad time to call. :p

      Think about why you are calling them.
      Just to spruce up their website?

      Think more about how you can help.
      Just offering a jazz up may not be appealing to them. Pretty colors don't make customers.


      Try split testing your scripts

      I found your company on ____ (directory site) and came across your website. It looks like it was made a while ago and i was just wondering if it's doing what what you need it to do?.. You obviously spent money on it in the past, so is it living up to it's expectations?

      LISTEN = stop talking and hear what they are telling you.

      ask questions like

      What do you want your customer to do when they are there?
      Is the design still relevant to your company image?

      If you are just calling to sell a revamp, you may be missing what they need.
      If they want something else and it is not your area of expertise, find outsourcers to do it for you and you will have that client to upsell desing work in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mav91890
    You never really answered how many calls you have done.
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