My Pathetic Cold Calling Journey

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Well I started my cold calling journey today (kinda....I did make about 32 calls the week before last). So far today I only managed to get in about 47 calls. Now I know you cold calling gurus are going to say that is not even close to enough, and I totally agree. But I had to start somewhere. Aaand, like many others on here, my cold calling fear is pretty bad...suffice it to say cold calling makes me want to drive a knitting needle through my eye lol. (My husband suggested I lock myself in the closet to cold call but that was a bit too extreme for me lol)

The strange thing is that I have no problem walking into a business and handing out flyers, brochures ect. and talking to people, but for some reason the phone dredges up that fear factor. But I need to make the most of my time, so cold calling it is. (Sales presentations are another issue...for another day.)

Anyway, no one yelled at me, no one was mean to me. Two people wished me luck. One had me send her a report I had available since her boss wasn't in, another one wanted me to fax information and another person asked me to call back in a week or two? (He seemed like he wanted off the phone and I had a hard time understanding him so I gave up lol).

My Stats:
Calls: 47
Out of service: 4
No answer: 13
Not interested: 23
Left message: 5
Faxed info: 1
Sent report: 1

Now for you cold call haters out there - Yes I am also doing social networking and direct mail and some email, but cold calling is just much quicker and lets you plow through the no-goes without wasting a ton of time.

Thanks again to Mike for letting us hangout with him on G+ and watch him make calls. His social proof was very helpful in helping me get back on the horse again.

Also, thanks to Jason, John for providing me with a ton of info on the site. IAmNameless for helping me toughen up the attitude. Lee Cole for working with me one on one and giving me some great resources, Ryan McKinney for making me get on the phone and give him my spiel so he could tear it apart (just kidding, he was very nice and helpful). You guys are awesome!

And also, thanks to all the others who have posted their journeys online. I know you don't think it means much, but just reading them is soooo helpful to a person struggling. It gives us hope! (Which is why I am posting this even though there isn't much to it.)

Now trust me, I know I have a loooooong way to go, but at least now I feel like I can pick up the phone without wanting to run to the bathroom and hurl!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Martin
    Just keep going! You can do it. Make 100 calls a day, every day. The sales will come. I promise.
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  • Profile picture of the author azurews
    Thanks Alanis. I know they will come, I am just impatient lol. Your cold calling story was also very inspiring. First call and....wow! That is just amazing! Congratulations!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Roncone
      Everybody's gotta start somewhere! If you ask me, 47 is great for a beginning. I remember the first day I started cold calling for someone else I got about 20 in with about two extra hours of me sitting there staring at the phone

      I actually have the opposite fear when it comes to presentations and walking in. When I walk into a business it takes a minute for me to be able to get comfortable and promote myself. However, business presentations are my bread and butter.

      In fact, pretty much the only reason I've gotten any job that I've ever had is because I got lucky to get an interview and then rocked the interview. Even now, my first client for my online business I got by presenting my "side business" to one of my bosses!

      Cold calling comes with practice, and I'm sure you'll start to pick up the vocal queues that tell you when someone is or is not interested and you can streamline your calls.

      Best of luck,
      -Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author cash89
    I'm starting my cold calling too. It's not easy. I think it's actually harder for those of us that are good in person because we don't have to fight for attention when you are right infront of someone. Just keep dialing that's what im going to do. Shoot for 100 contacts, not calls.
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  • Profile picture of the author azurews
    Sounds familiar Mike. I have managed to blast through a few days him-hawin around until it was 'too late' to call. My husband and daughter laugh at me...so I gave them a script to call and be appointment setters for me haha....see how they like it then!

    I find it interesting that you aren't comfortable going into a business but yet you can rock a presentation. I am the exact opposite. Small talk, chit chatting, going up to strangers, no problem. Having to get up in front of people and be the center of attention...we have a problem.

    In fact, I almost skipped my wedding because of that reason, and I almost quit college for that reason too! (Only girl in a computer class and was told we had to give presentations....ahhhh, don't think so!). But I did it, got through it somehow.

    I know I just have to keep doing it to get good at it. Kinda like finals week at college. At the beginning of the week I was freakin out, by the end of the week I didn't care and just did it.

    cash89, I know what you mean. I feel as if people tend to not be as mean if they have to look you in the face but they can hide behind the phone. We will get there. We just have to keep plugging away!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Roncone
      Hahahahah, the husband and daughter scenario sounds familiar my girlfriend kept givin' me sass about how much I was putting into my work-away-from-work. So I told her to make a blog that didn't just talk about what she did during the day and actually had something of value to give to the community.

      Needless to say, the blog still hasn't been made (even with me telling her that I will put it on my hosting and completely set it up for her) We'll see if it ever gets there.

      Also glad to hear you didn't skip out on your wedding or on finishing college! lol. Just think about it, you got through those just fine. Jeeze, I don't know if I'd be able to stand going through my wedding myself. Presentations? You're set, you've just gotta feel it.

      Best,
      -Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author azurews
    Well see Mike, you made it too tough on her! I made multiple blogs for all my kids and my husband and all they had to do was add content...guess how well that worked? lol.

    Now that I am getting the hang of the selling process I think I can muddle through a presentation lol. (I managed to get through one in front of the owner of a local corporation, running on no sleep cause my class decided to throw me under the bus half an hour before the presentation! Buuuut I didn't have to 'sell' them anything.)

    I think you will be able to get through your wedding just fine! (The consequences of leaving a fuming bride at the alter just won't be worth the price you would have to pay! haha)
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    • Profile picture of the author focusedlife
      @Azurews - Very cool of you to share this story with everyone and the fact that you're so willing to "put it out there" I think speaks volumes about your ability to deal with criticism, which goes a long way to making you a thick skinned warrior.

      Ok, so with all that being said, if I may give you my two pennies and a speck of lint, I don't "cold call" anyone that has not already been "warmed" up to my spiel by way of sending out emails first and foremost.

      I use a template that showcases my wares, which prevents the whole send me some information "thwart" as I would have already done that.

      I then go on to make sure I know EXACTLY how many times a person has looked at my email and for how long using either spypig, whoreadme or my own proprietary tool, Email Tracker.

      This allows me to get insight as to how receptive the prospect is to my ideas before I ever broach the introductory barrier.

      Anyways, this, I have found is the easiest way for me to start a conversation.

      I absolutely hope that has helped you with getting some ideas that you may not have considered.

      Regards

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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    There is only one way that works for training a cold caller and getting them to break the ice and start producing-

    "Dont let them get off the phone when they want to- Make them stay on it all day".

    Thats what I have done with every person I have ever hired, and trust me, the first few hours or first couple of days, some of them really want to go home after two hours, lol

    The only way to break them in is to make them stay the whole shift, most end up making a sale in that time, and as for the ones who dont; if they come back the next day they may have hope. lol

    They will still have to stay in the booth all day though if they clocked in.

    What normally happens is that they become successful.

    even a total loser on a call center floor generally makes more sales per day than the average warrior offline consultant. - Even the guys who can barely keep up quota.

    I believe the difference is that we as warriors have a will, and we dont have to make ourselves break it. Whereas a call center operator has no choice but to stay on the phone till they break ground and get sales or be fired. Most of them get the sales, because they need the job.

    It goes to show that if you want it bad enough its there...Even Hadrian, in another thread was not producing until we had the thread "talk".... The "talk" is "Produce or Im not going to waste my time here..."

    Now, in a call center its more like "Produce or you are going to get fired".

    Its amazing how what seemed impossible before can be like nothing once your will to actually get the result is properly ignited.

    In closing I will say azeruws, I have enjoyed your posts... I think that what you experience is the same as MANY experience. I know how tough it can be to cold call when your mate is in earshot and can listen, not exactly the easiest circumstances to start, but that gets to be like nothing too if you keep going...

    Most newbies, like most newhires in a call center have a wall to break through. We have no problem getting them through it in call centers because they can see that if they follow our advice they will be like the others all around them, making quota all day and even breaking records...and we can make them stay on the phone till they break that ground, 8 hours per day... you cant help but get good like that.

    However, offliners have a personal will to deal with and they have to make their own way to breaking those walls. So Its not so simple sometimes.

    In any event, if you determine to keep going , you could soon produce just like a telemarketer, only making 100 times the money with 20 times less effort and dials...- But in starting, remember-there is a huge difference between a person that makes 500 calls per day every day for months on end, and a person like most offliners who dabble with 20-40 calls here and there....Its like the difference between a 4 cylinder and a v12....

    Only the caller himself can decide which one he's willing to be.
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  • Profile picture of the author azurews
    @focusedlife I appreciate your advice. My only issue is that many businesses don't have their emails online, especially if they don't have a web site. It is much faster to just call than spend 10 or 15 minutes trying to hunt down an email.

    I am aware of spypig and tried it out. The only thing I don't like about it is that the person has to have images enabled or it won't register when they open the email. I don't know what your success rate is with spypig, but I personally have images turned off in my email so I worry about the reliability of the service.

    I am also afraid of letting myself get sidetracked with too many methods. I have done everything possible to avoid cold calling and I keep returning to it. I don't want to fall off the bandwagon after I just get on lol.

    I hope to eventually get to the point where I don't have to constantly cold call, but in the meantime I need to keep my blinders on and stay focused.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Originally Posted by azurews View Post


      I am also afraid of letting myself get sidetracked with too many methods. I have done everything possible to avoid cold calling and I keep returning to it. I don't want to fall off the bandwagon after I just get on lol.

      The reason you keep returning to it is because you see others saying within weeks time "I got a sale" , moreso than with other methods.

      It simply works best for the quickest development and cash producing curve in most cases, with rare exception.

      I would say stick with it, if you keep returning to it, may as well master it on this round huh?

      Its not even arguable that consistent cold calling produces cash. Just keep it up!
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  • Profile picture of the author azurews
    There is only one way that works for training a cold caller and getting them to break the ice and start producing-

    "Dont let them get off the phone when they want to- Make them stay on it all day".

    Thats what I have done with every person I have ever hired, and trust me, the first few hours or first couple of days, some of them really want to go home after two hours, lol
    Oh, trust me, I feel their pain lol

    The only way to break them in is to make them stay the whole shift, most end up making a sale in that time, and as for the ones who dont; if they come back the next day they may have hope. lol

    They will still have to stay in the booth all day though if they clocked in.

    What normally happens is that they become successful.
    Now that is inspiring to hear!

    even a total loser on a call center floor generally makes more sales per day than the average warrior offline consultant. - Even the guys who can barely keep up quota.

    I believe the difference is that we as warriors have a will, and we dont have to make ourselves break it. Whereas a call center operator has no choice but to stay on the phone till they break ground and get sales or be fired. Most of them get the sales, because they need the job.
    Yes, it is definitely tough to force yourself to do it when no one is there breathing down your neck. I can come up with all kinds of other things I 'need' to do.

    It goes to show that if you want it bad enough its there...Even Hadrian, in another thread was not producing until we had the thread "talk".... The "talk" is "Produce or Im not going to waste my time here..."

    Now, in a call center its more like "Produce or you are going to get fired".

    Its amazing how what seemed impossible before can be like nothing once your will to actually get the result is properly ignited.
    Having that added pressure is definitely an incentive to produce results. I know once I get in the rhythm of things it will almost become second nature

    In closing I will say azeruws, I have enjoyed your posts... I think that what you experience is the same as MANY experience. I know how tough it can be to cold call when your mate is in earshot and can listen, not exactly the easiest circumstances to start, but that gets to be like nothing too if you keep going...
    As you can imagine, I have found your post to be extremely inspiring and immensely helpful. They have given me the confidence to push myself through my fear. Having people around can make one self conscience, but after today it seems like I spent most of my time on the greeting and I think after a while they won't even notice me talking. (I have manage to move from room to room looking for the 'right' spot and I am getting tired of relocating lol)

    Most newbies, like most newhires in a call center have a wall to break through. We have no problem getting them through it in call centers because they can see that if they follow our advice they will be like the others all around them, making quota all day and even breaking records...and we can make them stay on the phone till they break that ground, 8 hours per day... you cant help but get good like that.

    However, offliners have a personal will to deal with and they have to make their own way to breaking those walls. So Its not so simple sometimes.
    I can't say I have completely broken through my wall, but it is starting to come crumbling down!

    In any event, if you determine to keep going , you could soon produce just like a telemarketer, only making 100 times the money with 20 times less effort and dials...- But in starting, remember-there is a huge difference between a person that makes 500 calls per day every day for months on end, and a person like most offliners who dabble with 20-40 calls here and there....Its like the difference between a 4 cylinder and a v12....

    Only the caller himself can decide which one he's willing to be.
    I know I definitely have to step things up. But my family and my freedom are my motivation. I am going to do it if it kills me. My ultimate goal is ...(either you or Jason mentioned this) to be able to pick up the phone and make money no matter where I am or what situation I happen to be in. I find that skill to be the most liberating of all and it is one I am encouraging my kids to learn, because if you can sell you can pretty much do anything!
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    One thing that will help you quit relocating, and also make your tone come across more casual. is to just put a TV in the room and watch it while you telemarket, on a low volume. Nothing too dramatic that requires a bunch of concentration, maybe like a cooking channel or QVC home shopping network or something that inspires hopes and new thoughts....positive energy, but that doesnt have a theme you can get caught up in watching (fixated on) exclusively for an hour at a time... Tip from one home worker to another. Having a TV in the room playing can make it seem less awkward and alone...plus gives you a little preoccupation to watch while you talk and takes tension out of your voice.

    I remember a few years ago, when I went to cold call it was just me an Bobby Flay, hangin out together, me cold calling and him grilling!
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    • Profile picture of the author EmmaPowell
      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      One thing that will help you quit relocating, and also make your tone come across more casual. is to just put a TV in the room and watch it while you telemarket, on a low volume. Nothing too dramatic that requires a bunch of concentration, maybe like a cooking channel or QVC home shopping network or something that inspires hopes and new thoughts....positive energy, but that doesnt have a theme you can get caught up in watching (fixated on) exclusively for an hour at a time... Tip from one home worker to another. Having a TV in the room playing can make it seem less awkward and alone...plus gives you a little preoccupation to watch while you talk and takes tension out of your voice.

      I remember a few years ago, when I went to cold call it was just me an Bobby Flay, hangin out together, me cold calling and him grilling!
      Whenever I cold call a business I am always casual and tell the business owner "I am a freelance work from home mum......" because quite often they will hear my children in the background

      No matter how quiet I try to keep them they always make an appearance!

      Almost always it turns into a talking point with business owners about their own children, so it becomes an easy conversation, and the selling becomes more like they are buying from a "friend"

      Be yourself but have a clear aim as to what you want before you hang up the phone

      Good work so far - how are the sales?

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  • Profile picture of the author azurews
    The reason you keep returning to it is because you see others saying within weeks time "I got a sale" , moreso than with other methods.

    It simply works best for the quickest development and cash producing curve in most cases, with rare exception.

    I would say stick with it, if you keep returning to it, may as well master it on this round huh?

    Its not even arguable that consistent cold calling produces cash. Just keep it up!
    Yes, the stories here are very inspiring and when I run out of funding for direct mail and email and social networking are limited options when there is a time factor involved...well you have nothing left but the phone.

    I definitely plan on mastering it. No sense in putting off the inevitable!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    So how much time and energy have you invested in learning how to call effectively?

    Are you expecting to become skilled at it in just a few days?

    Why wouldn't you want to get on the phone and get the direct, live feedback from business owners, instead of waiting around wondering if they even received your mail?
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Azurews, you and I were both up till the wee hours. Judging from that I wouldnt be shocked or disappointed if the news was still looking pathetic today...lol
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    • Profile picture of the author moneymakersguide
      Some people HATE cold calling and suck at it but some are just better at direct marketing. The thing with cold calling is you have to be able to handle rejection but "every no is closer to a yes". I like cold calling like lead generation and I'll do some sales too (not pushy) but if I were to walk into a business and give my pitch...I would suck and look like a babbling fool.

      Cold calling tips

      -Write out a script
      - Answer potential clients questions---let them know how your product or service can benefit them
      - Give them a sense of urgency (that they NEED this or everyone else is doing it)
      - Every no is closer to a yes
      -Fine tune your script
      - Product knowledge
      - Friendliness
      - FOLLOW UP (some people just aren't ready at that moment to buy or are really interested in your product but just don't have time to talk).

      Hope that helps!
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      • Profile picture of the author vladinati
        Never call your actions Pathetic your doing 99.9% more then those who never take action.I suggest looking for ari Gapler unlock the game his course has helped me so much in steping up my cold calling game.

        Much Success to you.
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        • Profile picture of the author Firedup
          Originally Posted by vladinati View Post

          Never call your actions Pathetic your doing 99.9% more then those who never take action.I suggest looking for ari Gapler unlock the game his course has helped me so much in steping up my cold calling game.

          Much Success to you.
          Completely agree - you're taking action and you have to start somewhere, I remember the first time I cold called and the guy at the other end told me he wasn't interested - I asked why, and he said because you sound like you're reading from a script and don't know what you're talking about - he was right on both counts!

          I did call him back some time later and close him but the thing to remember is that you get better at anything over time you just have to do the calls and you'll get good
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  • Profile picture of the author ADukes81
    That is NOT pathetic! You took action. Good for you! Be proud of that.

    You want to hear pathetic....

    Me calling 5k businesses (had contact with about 1,800) when I first started and I think I closed 3 deals. I learned a ton about sales, cold calling, business and myself. Have not picked up the phone since. I don't like it.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Originally Posted by ADukes81 View Post

      That is NOT pathetic! You took action. Good for you! Be proud of that.

      You want to hear pathetic....

      Me calling 5k businesses (had contact with about 1,800) when I first started and I think I closed 3 deals. I learned a ton about sales, cold calling, business and myself. Have not picked up the phone since. I don't like it.
      Well at least you take good photographs Adukes! Thats a hollywood mug if I ever saw one.

      I think you were primarily going with Amir's hardcore system at the time...and had alot of home pressure... The origibal Telemarketing War report would have been the way to go.... But I didnt want to step in because you two were getting tight...
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  • Profile picture of the author Intermission
    @azurews I love that you shared your story. It's helpful and inspiring.

    I'm actually more comfortable on the phone than in person because I am an introvert, but I learned my cold calling 'skills' as a bill collector many years ago. I fumble and stumble in person and I really don't like chit-chat. I do it when I have to, but I don't like it.

    I did try cold calling a while back but found I wanted to check every business online first before calling, to see if they had a website, Facebook page, negative reviews, etc, etc. It took me forever to make just a few calls. (If I'm really honest ... it was probably a stall tactic!. I didn't want to experience the rejection). I could make 150 calls in a shift as a bill collector no problem though.

    Anyway, you've inspired me to give it a go again. I'll make a list and not stop calling until I get a few yes's. IDEALLY I would like to know how to get more work with emails. I need to find a good email script/template I can use.

    Thanks for sharing and the best of luck with every call!
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  • Profile picture of the author shane_k
    My response is going to be a bit different then everyone else’s. But I hope it helps.

    Obviously, there is a difference between what is happening in your head in the contexts of making that initial contact in person and making that initial contact on the phone.

    I am betting that when talking to someone in person, you are not focused on rejection at all. In fact I am betting that it doesn’t even enter your mind. You probably feel comfortable, connected, and paying more attention to that person than your fears.
    But, when you imagine making a cold call, I am betting you are imagining a more scary scenario. Maybe the person who answers the phone being mean, angry, rude, or hollering at you? Maybe not that, but something like it. And it is this scary imaginings before you even pick up the phone that is getting your heart racing.

    I have helped many of my coworkers overcome this fear of cold calling and here is what helped them and may help you.

    First, stop thinking of it as cold calling (even though that is what it is) Because the phrase or words cold calling have this negative connotation for you. And there is this added mental baggage attached to that phrase.
    Think about it. How do you feel, when you think about the difference between making a cold call, and making a phone call?

    So from this point on you are just making phone calls.


    The second thing I would suggest you do, is before you pick up the phone, instead of imagining the person on the other line potentially being mean to you, imagine the person on the other end. Picture them in your head and imagine how your conversation would go in real life if you walked into the business. Remember how nice people treat you in real life and how does that feel when that happens.
    Then once you get those feelings in your body then pick up the phone and make the call.

    Shane_K
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    • Profile picture of the author Joel
      You say, "The strange thing is that I have no problem walking into a business...."

      So, I suggest you spend 1/2 your time visiting business & 1/2 your time on the phone. See which one works out best for you to get business.

      Walking in & talking will allow you to get a better understanding of what's a good vertical or not, what's important to say or not, etc.

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  • Profile picture of the author rbecklund
    You are doing it - that's what matters. Just keep at it and the sales will come. Congrats!
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  • Profile picture of the author RecessionPROOF
    Wow,

    I have to give you credit, cold calling is the most difficult strategy of all when it comes to sales. Most cannot handle rejection, so you have to condition yourself early on to ignore it or you will be burnt out before you get past the first day. lol

    Most hate to sell, and most hate to be sold, so good luck, I use the strategy of Pay It Forward, Give To Receive, Care To Share and People Helping Poeple, I don't sell it, I tell it, totally different results, plus you cultivate reciprocal referrals, the real success strategy in any business.

    Success to all,
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  • Profile picture of the author azurews
    I love the comments here and I will answer them later this evening. Yesterday I only got in about 40 calls (no sales). I had some client inquires to respond to and a pretty big meeting to get ready for today. Then my husband needed help with his biz, a storm came through and we lost electric. So I was up a good bit of the night getting ready for the meeting that the client just rescheduled on me. So now I am working on getting back into my 'call groove' so I can try and salvage my day
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
      Originally Posted by azurews View Post

      I love the comments here and I will answer them later this evening. Yesterday I only got in about 40 calls (no sales). I had some client inquires to respond to and a pretty big meeting to get ready for today. Then my husband needed help with his biz, a storm came through and we lost electric. So I was up a good bit of the night getting ready for the meeting that the client just rescheduled on me. So now I am working on getting back into my 'call groove' so I can try and salvage my day
      You could sell today. It's possible.

      However, the numbers are (secret stuff here, oh boy!) that on average, half the people you call won't be in. Half of those that do can't talk right now. Meaning that 3/4 of your dials won't get to a decisionmaker who can speak with you today.

      And it's true for JD, it's true for me, and it's true for you.

      The difference in results rests in how you react to that information. Take it personally, or see it for the game it is and keep going.

      All you are doing is delivering the message...finding out if this person qualifies In or Out. Doesn't matter which.

      The things that turn into sales today, for me, started 7-10 days ago. You have to call consistently, prime the pump and keep the inertia going.

      Don't quit: keep calling. It'll happen...and then it will get easier...and then it will get so easy you'll wonder why you ever had trouble.
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  • Profile picture of the author azurews
    You're right...Fridays suck monkey balls....back to work
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  • Profile picture of the author luke1213
    Don't give up azurews. We all need to start somewhere. Up til 2011, I owned a biz that paid me in the 6 figures for the last 8 years. Times were good. No worries. But some good things come to an end. I ended up losing my company to backstabbing partners and left me unemployed, losing my house, and having my vehicles repossessed. I spent all of my savings to keep supporting my family (didn't get unemployment benefits)

    Fast forward to 2012. Currently, I work for 9 bucks an hour doing a part time job trying to support a family. I know that 9 bucks an hour can't support a family of 4 so I looked to IM and offline marketing. IM is easier but the results don't come fast enough so I looked to offline marketing for quicker results. First off, I am not a person who can sale. Never have been. I suck on the phone. Always have. I am personable but suffer from slight anxiety. So any uncomfortable situation is not good for me.

    So what am I doing? I am getting on the phone, making calls and visiting businesses. I know that I am leaving my comfort zone but when I realize that the possibility of my family not being provided for, I power through my fear and anxiety.

    Has it worked? I am working part time and with the help of my wife, we have managed to make 3 sales totaling about $1,300 dollars with 7 other people deciding within the next week with a total of about 75 calls, 35 direct visits.

    Once you get your first yes, all the other no's go away. You will get better at handling rejection and even at selling your products or services.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wyteria Jacobo
      Originally Posted by luke1213 View Post

      Don't give up azurews. We all need to start somewhere. Up til 2011, I owned a biz that paid me in the 6 figures for the last 8 years. Times were good. No worries. But some good things come to an end. I ended up losing my company to backstabbing partners and left me unemployed, losing my house, and having my vehicles repossessed. I spent all of my savings to keep supporting my family (didn't get unemployment benefits)

      Fast forward to 2012. Currently, I work for 9 bucks an hour doing a part time job trying to support a family. I know that 9 bucks an hour can't support a family of 4 so I looked to IM and offline marketing. IM is easier but the results don't come fast enough so I looked to offline marketing for quicker results. First off, I am not a person who can sale. Never have been. I suck on the phone. Always have. I am personable but suffer from slight anxiety. So any uncomfortable situation is not good for me.

      So what am I doing? I am getting on the phone, making calls and visiting businesses. I know that I am leaving my comfort zone but when I realize that the possibility of my family not being provided for, I power through my fear and anxiety.

      Has it worked? I am working part time and with the help of my wife, we have managed to make 3 sales totaling about $1,300 dollars with 7 other people deciding within the next week with a total of about 75 calls, 35 direct visits.

      Once you get your first yes, all the other no's go away. You will get better at handling rejection and even at selling your products or services.

      Luke I'm inspired by your story. It's somewhat similar to mine. 3 years ago life was sweet, I was a stay-at-home mom and my husband made 6 figures. I dabbled in IM and offline but didn't take any real action until now. 2012 finds me separated mom of 2 small kids and I HAVE TO make it work. Leads and calls are trickling in. I will take action on your method of call plus visits. Thanks for sharing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Wyteria Jacobo
        Azurews, you are taking action which is 99.9% more than most wannabe's are out there doing. I commend and applaud you. Keep going (and don't forget to turn your story into a WSO when you succeed LOL)
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  • Profile picture of the author azurews
    Azurews, you and I were both up till the wee hours. Judging from that I wouldnt be shocked or disappointed if the news was still looking pathetic today...lol
    LOL...unfortunately, I am a night owl. Hence, targeting the west coast gives me a few extra hours to work with

    Some people HATE cold calling and suck at it but some are just better at direct marketing. The thing with cold calling is you have to be able to handle rejection but "every no is closer to a yes". I like cold calling like lead generation and I'll do some sales too (not pushy) but if I were to walk into a business and give my pitch...I would suck and look like a babbling fool.

    Cold calling tips

    -Write out a script
    - Answer potential clients questions---let them know how your product or service can benefit them
    - Give them a sense of urgency (that they NEED this or everyone else is doing it)
    - Every no is closer to a yes
    -Fine tune your script
    - Product knowledge
    - Friendliness
    - FOLLOW UP (some people just aren't ready at that moment to buy or are really interested in your product but just don't have time to talk).

    Hope that helps!
    I am getting the follow up down. I didn't have my prospects categorized to easily refer to who I needed to follow up with. But I am working that out better now.


    Whenever I cold call a business I am always casual and tell the business owner "I am a freelance work from home mum......" because quite often they will hear my children in the background

    No matter how quiet I try to keep them they always make an appearance!

    Almost always it turns into a talking point with business owners about their own children, so it becomes an easy conversation, and the selling becomes more like they are buying from a "friend"

    Be yourself but have a clear aim as to what you want before you hang up the phone

    Good work so far - how are the sales?

    Emma
    Funny, I started out hiding in my son's bedroom to cold call (he has 'kinda' moved out). Then I went down to the basement when he came back home and took over my cold calling area. Then I got tired of lugging all my stuff down stairs and went to the dining room instead. I finally just gave up and did it in my normal area, in the middle of everything, with 5 teens, 2 dogs and a husband running in and out.



    Never call your actions Pathetic your doing 99.9% more then those who never take action.I suggest looking for ari Gapler unlock the game his course has helped me so much in steping up my cold calling game.

    Much Success to you.
    I will definitely check out Ari Gapler. Thank you.


    That is NOT pathetic! You took action. Good for you! Be proud of that.

    You want to hear pathetic....

    Me calling 5k businesses (had contact with about 1,800) when I first started and I think I closed 3 deals. I learned a ton about sales, cold calling, business and myself. Have not picked up the phone since. I don't like it.
    Yikes, that's a lot of calls!

    @azurews I love that you shared your story. It's helpful and inspiring.

    I'm actually more comfortable on the phone than in person because I am an introvert, but I learned my cold calling 'skills' as a bill collector many years ago. I fumble and stumble in person and I really don't like chit-chat. I do it when I have to, but I don't like it.

    I did try cold calling a while back but found I wanted to check every business online first before calling, to see if they had a website, Facebook page, negative reviews, etc, etc. It took me forever to make just a few calls. (If I'm really honest ... it was probably a stall tactic!. I didn't want to experience the rejection). I could make 150 calls in a shift as a bill collector no problem though.

    Anyway, you've inspired me to give it a go again. I'll make a list and not stop calling until I get a few yes's. IDEALLY I would like to know how to get more work with emails. I need to find a good email script/template I can use.

    Thanks for sharing and the best of luck with every call!
    I do have the same problem. I want to check out everything beforehand but it just gets too time consuming. I am the type that if I were (been years) to go in a mall shopping for shoes, I would find the one pair I like at the first store, but I wouldn't buy those because I would have to make sure I didn't miss anything and would have to check out every other store in the mall too. 2 hours later I would be back buying the first pair I saw anyway. Wasted a lot of time and that is the habit I have to get out of.
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    • Profile picture of the author azurews
      My response is going to be a bit different then everyone else's. But I hope it helps.

      Obviously, there is a difference between what is happening in your head in the contexts of making that initial contact in person and making that initial contact on the phone.

      I am betting that when talking to someone in person, you are not focused on rejection at all. In fact I am betting that it doesn't even enter your mind. You probably feel comfortable, connected, and paying more attention to that person than your fears.
      But, when you imagine making a cold call, I am betting you are imagining a more scary scenario. Maybe the person who answers the phone being mean, angry, rude, or hollering at you? Maybe not that, but something like it. And it is this scary imaginings before you even pick up the phone that is getting your heart racing.

      I have helped many of my coworkers overcome this fear of cold calling and here is what helped them and may help you.

      First, stop thinking of it as cold calling (even though that is what it is) Because the phrase or words cold calling have this negative connotation for you. And there is this added mental baggage attached to that phrase.
      Think about it. How do you feel, when you think about the difference between making a cold call, and making a phone call?

      So from this point on you are just making phone calls.


      The second thing I would suggest you do, is before you pick up the phone, instead of imagining the person on the other line potentially being mean to you, imagine the person on the other end. Picture them in your head and imagine how your conversation would go in real life if you walked into the business. Remember how nice people treat you in real life and how does that feel when that happens.
      Then once you get those feelings in your body then pick up the phone and make the call.

      Shane_K
      Thank you Shane, your advice is helpful. I think the easier aspect of walking in is that 'most' people aren't as likely to be mean to you face to face. Maybe I should go the Brady Bunch route and image the person on the other end in their underwear! lol

      You say, "The strange thing is that I have no problem walking into a business...."

      So, I suggest you spend 1/2 your time visiting business & 1/2 your time on the phone. See which one works out best for you to get business.

      Walking in & talking will allow you to get a better understanding of what's a good vertical or not, what's important to say or not, etc.

      Joel
      I have considered that. I am just pressed for time and the phone is quicker (and easier on the gas tank!)


      You are doing it - that's what matters. Just keep at it and the sales will come. Congrats!
      Thank you!

      Wow,

      I have to give you credit, cold calling is the most difficult strategy of all when it comes to sales. Most cannot handle rejection, so you have to condition yourself early on to ignore it or you will be burnt out before you get past the first day. lol

      Most hate to sell, and most hate to be sold, so good luck, I use the strategy of Pay It Forward, Give To Receive, Care To Share and People Helping Poeple, I don't sell it, I tell it, totally different results, plus you cultivate reciprocal referrals, the real success strategy in any business.

      Success to all,
      Those are great strategies that I will probably move to implementing when time is more of a luxury.

      Don't give up azurews. We all need to start somewhere. Up til 2011, I owned a biz that paid me in the 6 figures for the last 8 years. Times were good. No worries. But some good things come to an end. I ended up losing my company to backstabbing partners and left me unemployed, losing my house, and having my vehicles repossessed. I spent all of my savings to keep supporting my family (didn't get unemployment benefits)

      Fast forward to 2012. Currently, I work for 9 bucks an hour doing a part time job trying to support a family. I know that 9 bucks an hour can't support a family of 4 so I looked to IM and offline marketing. IM is easier but the results don't come fast enough so I looked to offline marketing for quicker results. First off, I am not a person who can sale. Never have been. I suck on the phone. Always have. I am personable but suffer from slight anxiety. So any uncomfortable situation is not good for me.

      So what am I doing? I am getting on the phone, making calls and visiting businesses. I know that I am leaving my comfort zone but when I realize that the possibility of my family not being provided for, I power through my fear and anxiety.

      Has it worked? I am working part time and with the help of my wife, we have managed to make 3 sales totaling about $1,300 dollars with 7 other people deciding within the next week with a total of about 75 calls, 35 direct visits.

      Once you get your first yes, all the other no's go away. You will get better at handling rejection and even at selling your products or services.
      Wow, your story is amazing. We just recently experienced a similar scenario with my husband's business. It is frustrating to be on top of the world and then just see it crumble beneath your feet. It sounds like you are pulling yourself back from the brink of destruction to build yourself back up again. And to think of all the obstacles you are working to overcome in your business. It is amazing. Kudos to your wife for standing by and helping you. She sounds like a great lady. Your story does give me hope. Thank you for sharing it with me.

      Azurews, you are taking action which is 99.9% more than most wannabe's are out there doing. I commend and applaud you. Keep going (and don't forget to turn your story into a WSO when you succeed LOL)
      Thank you! Ha, yea a WSO, I don't think it would quite make it to that extent! Lol

      No one said cold calls have to be made on the telephone. If you're comfortable in face-to-face situations, do that.
      That is an option I have considered. Like I mentioned before, it is just faster and easier on the gas tank to pick up the phone...not to mention I have the west coast thing going on. lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Intermission
      Originally Posted by azurews View Post

      I do have the same problem. I want to check out everything beforehand but it just gets too time consuming. I am the type that if I were (been years) to go in a mall shopping for shoes, I would find the one pair I like at the first store, but I wouldn't buy those because I would have to make sure I didn't miss anything and would have to check out every other store in the mall too. 2 hours later I would be back buying the first pair I saw anyway. Wasted a lot of time and that is the habit I have to get out of.
      That's exactly what I do! LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author John Durham
        Originally Posted by Intermission View Post

        That's exactly what I do! LOL
        A one liner above (what we call a "drive by" poster) with low post count, bumping a cold calling failure thread. Just as I described would happen in the thread listed below...I rest my case:

        http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...reof-here.html
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        • Profile picture of the author Intermission
          Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

          A one liner above (what we call a "drive by" poster) with low post count, bumping a cold calling failure thread. Just as I described would happen in the thread listed below...I rest my case:
          I am not a 'drive by poster' ... I don't have a low post count ... I didn't comment to bump the thread, I was responding to an answer to my previous post.

          It would seem to me that you troll the threads like this one (without reading them) to make comments yourself just to hear yourself 'talk'.
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  • Profile picture of the author fitnessmaster
    Sounds like you're doing great to me! I attempted sales and cold calling about 10 years ago but quickly realized I sucked at it and it just wasn't me. I'm an introvert and don't care to talk more than I have to so reaching out to strangers over the phone was definitely one of the hardest things I've ever done.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sue Bruce
      Someone is going to find the pot of gold when they write a book called 'How I went from wanting to stick a needle through my eye to making $2000 a week with cold calling." (or a shorter title similar to that)

      Itll be on Amazon, a Kindle book, reviewed all over the web.

      It could be you!

      Have fun with it.

      Sue
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  • Profile picture of the author azurews
    As much as I hate to admit it, I fell off the bandwagon. I went from calling while sitting in the middle of the room surrounded by my family and half their friends, to letting that nauseating fear creep back in and suck all my ambition out of me. I don't know what happened, I think part of it was not calling on Sunday. Not calling just one day seemed to do me in. (I probably only made about 50 calls all week)

    I am determined to suck it up and climb back on the bandwagon and get it going again. Sorry to disappoint you guys (and myself, and my family).

    Another thing I learned it to organize my follow ups better. I initially had my calls organized into separate files by date-niche-state-city. But then I had to go into each file to see who I need to followup on. So now I made a separate follow up file so I can see who I need to get back with easier (I know, I am a bit slow lol).

    Anyway, I am praying for a better week this coming up week.
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    • Profile picture of the author luke1213
      yea I hear you. it's hard to not get discouraged or to stay motivated. it must be something in the water. i had decent results early on with a couple of sales. then i had some potential customers who were going to use my service but backed out because they decided it wasn't in their budget. talk about taking the wind out of my sails.
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    • Profile picture of the author kvnkane
      Originally Posted by azurews View Post

      As much as I hate to admit it, I fell off the bandwagon. I went from calling while sitting in the middle of the room surrounded by my family and half their friends, to letting that nauseating fear creep back in and suck all my ambition out of me. I don't know what happened, I think part of it was not calling on Sunday. Not calling just one day seemed to do me in. (I probably only made about 50 calls all week)

      I am determined to suck it up and climb back on the bandwagon and get it going again. Sorry to disappoint you guys (and myself, and my family).

      Another thing I learned it to organize my follow ups better. I initially had my calls organized into separate files by date-niche-state-city. But then I had to go into each file to see who I need to followup on. So now I made a separate follow up file so I can see who I need to get back with easier (I know, I am a bit slow lol).

      Anyway, I am praying for a better week this coming up week.
      hey dont give up, im in the same boat as you, keep going. just say to yourself, i j ust need to make 10 calls, after you made 10 it will feel fine again and you can go into calling again.
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  • Profile picture of the author azurews
    Thanks for the encouragement guys! I know it's tough to keep your chin up when things aren't going so well and sales aren't coming in.

    To give you a cold call laugh of the day....I did some calls today and I didn't make a sale, but I did get an offer to run off to Fort Myers Florida! LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author azurews
    The fact that you called him back later and closed him is impressive!
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    • Profile picture of the author Youronlinestuff
      OP what exactly are you selling?

      you need to make sure that what you are selling actually is of value and benefit to the people you are calling, then the phone call becomes by the by. If someone called asking if you wanted to buy $100 for $1 you would be interested.

      also people aren't going to buy there and then, the call is just a "hey, this is who I am and what I do, I can make you $100+ for every $1 you invest, check out our site, if you want i'll email you some info, or we can talk more at a more convenient time..."

      then it's just a numbers game.
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  • Profile picture of the author azurews
    I am selling whatever they need. If they don't have a web site, I am selling a web site. If their site sucks, I am selling a redesign. If they aren't mobilized, I am selling a mobile site. Not enough customers...selling seo. Well, you get the idea. I have to find out first what they need before I know what I should sell.

    I know I am not at the one call close yet and I have sent out faxes, emails and snail mail info, but my goal is to eventually be able to do a one call close.
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