Would this be popular? Email Marketing system?

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I've realized an opportunity to help warrior forum members do something they are having trouble doing traditionally....I think at least.

And that is the ability to send bulk emails to whoever they want, whenever they want, without opt ins or worrying about being banned etc etc.

A lot of WSO's for lead generation have to do with emailing. Scraping emails and cold emailing etc. But you really can't do this by yourself lets be honest unless your emailing all day long or have an outsourcer that you pay to email all day long which can get expensive. And you can't really get good results sending small samples anyway.

If you use Mailchimp or any other service they require opt in's...sometimes double opt ins...and if you load a list that has a high bounce rate or gets reported as spam at a too high percentage they will close your account.

I'm not asking if you think this would be something you'd use, but would it be popular amongst warrior forum members.


An email marketing system with these traits:

1. It's hosted for you, for free, you get a login.
2. You can use it unlimited using your own lists.
3. You get the obvious statistics and metrics.
4. No opt in/double opt in lists required, send to whoever you want, whatever email you want.
5. Never get banned for any statistics/bounce rates

This would probably be for a one time membership/set up fee (probably $97) and a small monthly fee for unlimited use (not sure yet on the price of that)

A business partner of mine has developed this software and hosts it. He stopped using it for a while for his business but we came to this realization recently.

Would this be popular? Include explanation and feedback please.

Thanks!
#email #marketing #popular #system
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    • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
      Originally Posted by imsolutionsgroup View Post

      You won't have success with this...because your IPs are going to get blocked for spamming...
      Yeah sending IP reputation would be shot. Email service providers have a hard enough time dealing with that, and then you have domain reputation that is a factor.

      Maxwell, mailchimp doesn't require opt in or double opt in, you can import yourself. Same with contactology and icontact and others.

      Unsubscribes and bounces aren't something the providers really ban you for, they just autoclean your list. What they ban you for is complaints when those that have an FBL click the spam button. If you didn't ban for that, it wouldn't matter because your IP and their domain would be blacklisted.

      To answer your question, yes, people would find this useful, however, I don't see why they would use it over cheaper alternatives.
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      • Profile picture of the author MaxwellB
        Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

        Yeah sending IP reputation would be shot. Email service providers have a hard enough time dealing with that, and then you have domain reputation that is a factor.

        Maxwell, mailchimp doesn't require opt in or double opt in, you can import yourself. Same with contactology and icontact and others.

        Unsubscribes and bounces aren't something the providers really ban you for, they just autoclean your list. What they ban you for is complaints when those that have an FBL click the spam button. If you didn't ban for that, it wouldn't matter because your IP and their domain would be blacklisted.

        To answer your question, yes, people would find this useful, however, I don't see why they would use it over cheaper alternatives.

        Interesting thoughts so far thanks.

        Mailchimp didn't auto clean for me I had to clean myself. And because there were too many hard bounces (it was an old list that wasn't cleaned regularly) they suspended my account to find out why.

        So your saying that the ip would just be blacklisted so they'd send the emails but barely any would be delivered bc of blacklisting the ip's...

        I mean you could change servers often couldn't you?
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        • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
          Originally Posted by MaxwellB View Post

          Interesting thoughts so far thanks.

          Mailchimp didn't auto clean for me I had to clean myself. And because there were too many hard bounces (it was an old list that wasn't cleaned regularly) they suspended my account to find out why.

          So your saying that the ip would just be blacklisted so they'd send the emails but barely any would be delivered bc of blacklisting the ip's...

          I mean you could change servers often couldn't you?
          not often enuff.

          PLUS you as the proprietor take the risk of getting sued.
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          • Profile picture of the author MaxwellB
            Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

            not often enuff.

            PLUS you as the proprietor take the risk of getting sued.
            Oh really? I thought the person who sends the email is.

            I guess that explains why these companies are strict on this stuff.
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            • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
              Originally Posted by MaxwellB View Post

              Oh really? I thought the person who sends the email is.

              I guess that explains why these companies are strict on this stuff.
              If your selling them a service allowing them to go through you...
              You can be sued, well any one can be sued, doesn't mean they will win.

              but your def leaving the door open. IF you got the service up and running
              you would have to do some serious regulation.Which kinda
              takes away from your whole concept of a "free for all"

              for instance. sending some gambling stuff, IS illegal in some instance
              so is porn and other things...

              so, your opening your self up not only to potential legal headaches
              but some serious, technical headaches as well.
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              • Profile picture of the author MaxwellB
                Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

                If your selling them a service allowing them to go through you...
                You can be sued, well any one can be sued, doesn't mean they will win.

                but your def leaving the door open. IF you got the service up and running
                you would have to do some serious regulation.Which kinda
                takes away from your whole concept of a "free for all"

                for instance. sending some gambling stuff, IS illegal in some instance
                so is porn and other things...

                so, your opening your self up not only to potential legal headaches
                but some serious, technical headaches as well.
                Thanks Ken. I didn't know any of that.

                I guess I was thinking more of the use a warrior forum member would have which I assumed didn't involve gambling or porn haha.

                Yeah I guess I'd have to regulate it a little. Regardless of that I think the technical issues would be probably the worst.
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                • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
                  Originally Posted by MaxwellB View Post

                  Thanks Ken. I didn't know any of that.

                  I guess I was thinking more of the use a warrior forum member would have which I assumed didn't involve gambling or porn haha.

                  Yeah I guess I'd have to regulate it a little. Regardless of that I think the technical issues would be probably the worst.
                  There are a lot of warriors here that are in the gambling niche, or adult related niches that would jump to that opportunity and crash your server with all the spam they'd be sending.

                  You have one thing right though, the technical issues are the worst. I used to run an email script on my computer, then bought a server to run phplist from sending over 2K emails per hour, then my IPs were blacklisted and domain ruined for good. The technical issues give the most headaches it seems.

                  Services out there like icontact, constant conact, mailchimp, aweber, they have people working on that non stop. I admire that your mind is racing and being innovative and wanting to pursue things like that but I think it would be too much trouble to be honest with you.
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  • Profile picture of the author kimboslice
    You better be Can Spam compliant or you will get bit in the behind.
    Bulk email can be profitable but it is a nasty game and you better know what you are doing.
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    • Profile picture of the author joeaddassy
      If you want to send mass emailing. You have get total control of the process, you need a desktop software like Management-Ware Mass Mailing News.
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