How I make an extra $1,000 on virtually every sale

by TimD
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Hey guys,
I notice that I have never read anyone talking about branding, positioning, or copy writing for clients.

I assumed everyone was doing this. I sell it easily and include it in almost every sale I make. I was checking my records and I think I've sold custom copywriting for every website I've built except two.

And I'm not talking about SEO articles for $50 or $100 that I outsource. I'm talking about $1,000 for one page of copy. I build it into my sales process from the start. I get no pushback on this from clients. It's the easiest part of the sale.

I've made some sales that are only custom copy writing.

If there's an interest in this, I'll be happy to go over a process.

OK, saw some interest, so I've added this to the thread:

My approach is to sell positioning.

Most firms I run into want better positioning. Most people are frustrated that they are better than whoever is at the top of page one, and yet they're not at the top of page one.

So from the beginning, I'm selling that positioning is important. Here's what you've got to do to be successful:
1. You need to find an opening in the market
2. You need to drive traffic through that opening
3. When people get to your site, they need to know that they can't afford to click away

So, I start very often with video evaluation or written evaluation of their marketing strategy. And that evaluation always ends with:
So, we get you to page one, one thing you'll notice is that being on page one puts you in competition with potentially 26 other companies (10 in PPC, 7 in Places, and 10 in organics or however many you find in their industry). Your job isn't done. An aspect of the internet is that Friction has gone WAY down. If I'm not seeing something on your site that attracts me, I can be on another site in literally two clicks (back and then choose someone else).

Then I go through the top 5 competitors on the page - Here is your real competition once we have you on page one (so I'm assumptively closing SEO). Notice what they're doing (they're always doing one of two things - either all saying the same thing, or all dividing up the market by taking different positions). So, everyone says they have 15 years experience and a full staff of certified so and sos. So you can't say that. You're no different. No one is going to stay on your site.

OR

Notice that this firm is taking the low price position and they offer a guarantee. So you can sell low price all day long and it's going to be hard to beat. And these folks have just won an award for quality service, so that's not your place. And these folks have the widest selection available. So the good news for you is that you don't have to try to be everything to everyone because a number of positions are already taken. So we just have to figure out your position. Then you'll get the lion's share of people who are looking for that. You'll lose the people looking for something else but it was a fantasy that you'd get them anyway.

At this point, they're nodding. They all know this is true. So we need to go through a process that makes a visitor know why they can't afford to leave your site. If they leave your site, they leave something behind they won't see anywhere else. That will get them to stick.

To do that, I need to go through a process with you and create some custom copy.

An aside - is this a sales page? It isn't always with me. Sometimes it's the home page. I wrote a home page for an attorney that converted like gang busters. We created a trade marked name for a process a nanny service uses that underscored how exclusive she is. We created Seattle's only 5 point price protection guarantee for another firm. Its whatever they need to say or implement that differentiates them from their competition.

And I charge $1,000 for it. And no one flinches. Becuase they all get it. They know they need it.
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  • Profile picture of the author digichik
    Originally Posted by TimD View Post


    If there's an interest in this, I'll be happy to go over a process.
    I'm interested, so get to going.
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  • Profile picture of the author bluecoyotemedia
    Tim

    are you referring to creating a 1 page sales letter?? would be interested in seeing your sales funnel into how the topic of a $1000 copy writing actually is coming up in our sales process.

    thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author sandalwood
    Originally Posted by TimD View Post

    Hey guys,
    I notice that I have never read anyone talking about branding, positioning, or copy writing for clients.

    I assumed everyone was doing this. I sell it easily and include it in almost every sale I make. I was checking my records and I think I've sold custom copywriting for every website I've built except two.

    And I'm not talking about SEO articles for $50 or $100 that I outsource. I'm talking about $1,000 for one page of copy. I build it into my sales process from the start. I get no pushback on this from clients. It's the easiest part of the sale.

    I've made some sales that are only custom copy writing.

    If there's an interest in this, I'll be happy to go over a process.
    Tim,

    I am always interested in learning how other people do it. Some of us old dogs actually do learn new tricks because people like you are willing to share. Appreciate it.

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  • Profile picture of the author wally247
    Yea, is this a sales letter?

    I'm ALWAYS happy to learn new things in copywriting, so I'm interested!
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  • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
    @ TimD

    You are not telling a secret that nobody knows about.

    You ARE however laying out some thing that I KNOW FOR A FACT WORKS.

    as well as many, many others.

    Most people don't talk a bout it, myself included.

    It is EASY to tweak it, to fit specific scenarios / product / services.

    nice post man.

    I hope people appreciate it
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  • Profile picture of the author TyBrown
    Originally Posted by TimD View Post


    An aside - is this a sales page? It isn't always with me. Sometimes it's the home page. I wrote a home page for an attorney that converted like gang busters. We created a trade marked name for a process a nanny service uses that underscored how exclusive she is. We created Seattle's only 5 point price protection guarantee for another firm. Its whatever they need to say or implement that differentiates them from their competition.

    And I charge $1,000 for it. And no one flinches. Becuase they all get it. They know they need it.
    I'm curious about the nanny process. Are you willing to share what that is?
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  • Profile picture of the author meeka87
    Great stuff.....I'll probably use this...
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisacho
    a biz without power copywriting is like my cup of tea without sugar; i love it sweetened
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    • Profile picture of the author TimD
      Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

      @ TimD
      You ARE however laying out some thing that I KNOW FOR A FACT WORKS.
      It is EASY to tweak it, to fit specific scenarios / product / services.

      nice post man.

      I hope people appreciate it
      Thanks Ken. Sorry to spill the beans. I find this creates real leverage in the account. It often puts me in the position of asking questions that accounts know they should know the answer to but don't. So, I end up higher status. Which is nice.

      Originally Posted by TyBrown View Post

      I'm curious about the nanny process. Are you willing to share what that is?
      Ty, the nanny process is theirs. Over 20 years they developed a screening process that resulted in 96% of their placements lasting more than a year. That's unprecedented around here. We just identified that as their primary differentiator and underscored it.

      Originally Posted by meeka87 View Post

      Great stuff.....I'll probably use this...
      Great Meeka. Go do great things!

      Originally Posted by chrisacho View Post

      a biz without power copywriting is like my cup of tea without sugar; i love it sweetened
      I'm with you, Chris!
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