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Unread 28th Nov 2012, 01:30 AM   #1
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Default How to "Auto Flag" Craigslist Ads???

One of my clients came to me today highly ticked off. He said the ads he was posting to Craigslist were getting flagged by competition within minutes of going live.

I posted a couple from my account to test this, and saw first hand that it was true. Flagged in 3 minutes, twice.

I saw a thred in which red shifted, nameless, and ken were going back and forth about flagging each other to kingdom come.

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Is it possible to automatically flag someone's ads?
If so, how is it being done?
Is there a way to combat this?

Thanks a lot for any help.

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One of my clients came to me today highly ticked off. He said the ads he was posting to Craigslist were getting flagged by competition within minutes of going live.

I posted a couple from my account to test this, and saw first hand that it was true. Flagged in 3 minutes, twice.

I saw a thred in which red shifted, nameless, and ken were going back and forth about flagging each other to kingdom come.

My questions:
If your client is posting an ad from his account and you are posting the same ad from your account and both of them are getting flagged then there is something wrong with the ad.

It could be competitors, but it could also be normal everyday people who are posting on craigslist and don't like seeing your sales ad in an area where it probably isn't supposed to be, and they feel it is spam so they are flagging it.

A couple of options.

Change the ad

After you do this then pay attention to see if you are still getting flagged. Actually that brings up a question, are any of your clients other ads getting flagged or any of your other ads? if not then again it is probably that specific ad.

Another option is to post the ad here and maybe other warriors can tell you if it is too spammy or not. there's the possibility that it could be even if you think it isn't.
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One of my clients came to me today highly ticked off. He said the ads he was posting to Craigslist were getting flagged by competition within minutes of going live.

I posted a couple from my account to test this, and saw first hand that it was true. Flagged in 3 minutes, twice.

I saw a thred in which red shifted, nameless, and ken were going back and forth about flagging each other to kingdom come.

My questions:

Is it possible to automatically flag someone's ads?
If so, how is it being done?
Is there a way to combat this?

Thanks a lot for any help.

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I'm not telling.
Post in a different city or where they can't find you.

I have keywords I look for to auto flag... the software does it. Maybe it is their URL, maybe other keywords, but that is probably it. Chances are I even know the person doing it. LOL.

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If you are offering a service for your company you can't post in a different state. There is a flagging software called prometheus. Use it!!! it works. You need a proxy switcher and proxies. You can flag ads in a matter of minutes. What i suggest is use it to show a point and them make an agreement, because with flagging, nobody wins.
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Aside from the tips mentioned above, you can also use a software that automatically flag someone's ads similar to yours. Just look around the net by searching Craigslist flagging software on Google. You will definitely find a number of apps just for this purpose.

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Wow.

Flagging other people's ads automatically. That's just plain pathetic.

Hate the game, not the player, I know.

More reason to do direct mail or cold call.
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Craigslist is becoming a bigger and bigger pain to deal with. It is no longer just internet marketers that have a problem with it.

There are also people from The General Public who can't list their ipod for sale because it gets flagged automatically.

Personally I don't know how much longer this will last.
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Default Re: How to "Auto Flag" Craigslist Ads???

Thanks to everyone who responded. I got my answer. It's a competitor automatically flagging the ads.

The ads weren't spam. They were relevant ads for a local service company. Different headlines with different bodies in both text and images.

The flagging didn't start right away. For about a week, it was proving VERY profitable because anywhere from 4-6 good leads were coming in from the Craigslist ads daily. Maybe we started taking away leads from someone else. It makes sense, since the ads we designed were great direct response ads.

Sucks that people have to stoop that low. Maybe I'll do what Ken mentioned, sniff out who it is and relentlessly hunt down their ads until they disappear.

Anyhow, thanks for everyone who contributed to helping me out.

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Wow.

Flagging other people's ads automatically. That's just plain pathetic.

Hate the game, not the player, I know.

More reason to do direct mail or cold call.
There will always be scum with a piece of software spoiling everything for everybody, but like he proudly stated "what you gonna do about it?"
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Business is war.

Go compete in a medium where underhanded garbage like this doesn't happen.

Like picking up the phone. Or door knocking.
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There will always be scum with a piece of software spoiling everything for everybody, but like he proudly stated "what you gonna do about it?"
That's just how things go... you either adjust or you move over for those that can.

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That's just how things go... you either adjust or you move over for those that can.
Yeah if you can't beat them ........
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Wow.

Flagging other people's ads automatically. That's just plain pathetic.

Hate the game, not the player, I know.

More reason to do direct mail or cold call.

sorry but I also hate the player as well there is a line that I guess some are willing to cross for the all mighty sell but its as you said pathetic

I say find someone doing that and target every single ad they post I guess some like living in the gutter
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Yeah if you can't beat them ........
Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot that my goal in business is to do what I can to allow my competition to get the sales....
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sorry but I also hate the player as well there is a line that I guess some are willing to cross for the all mighty sell but its as you said pathetic

I say find someone doing that and target every single ad they post I guess some like living in the gutter
If the only form of generating sales for yourself is Craigslist, then it isn't the fault of the person flagging, it is your fault for not having multiple methods of marketing your business.

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Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot that my goal in business is to do what I can to allow my competition to get the sales....

If the only form of generating sales for yourself is Craigslist, then it isn't the fault of the person flagging, it is your fault for not having multiple methods of marketing your business.
I don't think you ever forget what your goal is ... at least judging by your posts.

You've given some decent advice in the past, but this certainly doesn't qualify.

What you have forgotten or ignore is the part ethics play in all of this. Flagging competitors ads for competitive reasons is not ethical ... unless you are redefining the word "ethics."

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I don't think you ever forget what your goal is ... at least judging by your posts.

You've given some decent advice in the past, but this certainly doesn't qualify.

What you have forgotten or ignore is the part ethics play in all of this. Flagging competitors ads for competitive reasons is not ethical ... unless you are redefining the word "ethics."

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Forgive me that I get tired of having 10+ people on here copying my ads word for word, and then spamming the hell out of craigslist. Then there are about 20 people on here copying Ewen's ad copy and spamming the hell out of it.

Ethical?

If you want to follow the CL terms of service you can only post 1 ad every 48 hours, IN YOUR LOCAL AREA. Anything else then I guess is considered unethical.

Search engine optimization, the whole process of "gaming the search engines", is unethical by those standards.

Ethical link building? No... non existent.

Copywriting? Is it okay to manipulate your prospects using certain colors and words to cause an emotional trigger? Is that unethical?

Is it unethical to send a direct mailing campaign claiming that YellowBook is dead, obviously that is for competitive reasons, is that unethical?

This is business. You can either adapt or fall behind. The choice is truly yours. If something I do makes you upset, then I'm sorry for making you upset but I'm not sorry for building my business.

I understand what you're saying and I respectfully disagree with you. In fact, it used to happen to me all the time, and I had to adjust in order to keep going. Is it dirty? Maybe... but I'm willing to get dirty. To me, that isn't unethical, it is competition. Unethical would be to purposely getting someone elses account ghosted.

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Forgive me that I get tired of having 10+ people on here copying my ads word for word, and then spamming the hell out of craigslist. Then there are about 20 people on here copying Ewen's ad copy and spamming the hell out of it.

I understand what you're saying and I respectfully disagree with you. In fact, it used to happen to me all the time, and I had to adjust in order to keep going. Is it dirty? Maybe... but I'm willing to get dirty. To me, that isn't unethical, it is competition. Unethical would be to purposely getting someone elses account ghosted.
We both know there are unethical people in this world, and I'd get irritated as you have with people copying verbatim something I was doing. Probably more so.

But I think Ewen has a skill level where copying his words won't significantly affect what he does. I'm not sure, but you might well have a similar skill set.

I can't remember who said it, but the idea was anyone can steal what he does, but they can't steal his thought process that gets the results.

And in actuality, our thought processes get the results that our clients are buying.

Anyway, it sounds like we mostly agree.

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I use Ad-Nuke to flag Craigslist ads and it works but cost money. It cost normally $.06 cent per flag or less depending how much you buy. I go after ads on businesses that hire illegal immigrants and spammers. The rule on Craigslist, you are only suppose to post one ad per catagory only every 48 hours and you are not suppose to use url's, these are the rules. So people are flagging is actually a good thing, it controls the spam and more flags you do on those people. their accounts will eventually turn into ghost accounts where their
accounts are useless.

Flagging is positive and I do recommend flagging ads as Craigslist
does not monitor spam and people doing business without a license, insurance, undocumented workers, unlicensed contractors, vendors,
and more. Craigslist might be free but it comes with a cost, you can flag any post you want if you want to use the free service for posting and flagging.

Personnally Craigslist is bad for business, it hurts businesses, newspapers and etc issues. I can name many examples of bad business practices on Craigslist and what people do on their illegally and Craigslist does nothing. You can buy drugs, have sex, sell weapons, spam personal information and more, Craigslist does nothing. There are bad landlords, bad mechanic's, crooked cleaning companies, bad contractors, insurance scams, phony rentals, unemployeed people getting unemployment money but are running a side business that is stealing for us taxpayers when they should not be collecting, wellfare people lying they need work but are getting social benefits and a whole of other bad tactic's people do on Craigslist for money. Craigslist is one big scam of crooked people posting. Yes they are honest posters but 4 out of 1o are good ads but the rest are bad.

I hope Ebay buys Craigslist and starts charging people to advertise, you have the social people that expect everything for free, its sad but society can't run on free stuff and Craigslist is about the free stuff hurting many businesses that advertise and contribute to society in some form.

In some ways, yes Craigslist is useless but there is more bad things about Craigslist that useless is less important vice versa, so Craigslist needs to go.

You have spam posters and you have flaggers, it evens out to weed out the garage on Craigslist when people see ads that shouldn't be there.

Ad-Nuke I can flag any ad I want and it is gone in 10 minutes to an hour or less.

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You can track flaggers IPs and a few are stupid enough not use an untraceable proxies...file a John Doe lawsuit to be able to subpoena records, if you can find the origin of the flaggers, you have legal grounds for damages and criminal complaint ...but beyond that nothing can be done outside having voodoo curses cast on them:p
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Try using a software called flagproofer com its free trial no credit card to try and it works. You can stop the flaggers from being able to remove your ad. Its not a flag program that flags people. Its a program that keeps already live ads from getting flagged. Stop the flagging madness i say
How would this work? The flagging programs merely are clicking a link that anyone could manually click. They just do it multiple times and with multiple IPs to cause craigslist automated removal to kick in.

Not sure how a program could stop that. I mean without hacking into craigslist itself. Which seems a bit unlikely and illegal.

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Aside from the tips mentioned above, you can also use a software that automatically flag someone's ads similar to yours. Just look around the net by searching Craigslist flagging software on Google. You will definitely find a number of apps just for this purpose.
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yeah, I've gone thru the auto-flagging mess. I eventually developed software through an idea of mine own that made auto-flagging my ads next to impossible. Haven't seen anything else out there like it. The point is, there are ways to combat it without going toe to toe with the flagger - besides, many times you can't locate the source of the flagging as it could be via some irrate customer, self-appointed CL police, etc.

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Does it show a blank ad when visited by a suspected flagger?
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I do belive there is a way to target ads by keyword with a software called CL Bot Pro... There's an add on to the base software for $99 that auto flags your competition. This sucks because I don't know of any way to stop it from flagging our ads but to be careful about what words you use and make them as job related as possible!
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Depending on the amount of auto flags it will COST YOU.

< 100 different ads per day, $1000.00 a month
> 100: 1500 a month
> 200: 2000.00
> 300: + 3000.00
For the price, auto flagging really doesn't seem worth it. Really how much would you have to be getting off one sale to disable your competition in that way?

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craigslistadtracker will allow you to track them to a certain degree. It will tell you all the IP addresses that have viewed the page. If you can find a pattern with all the ads that are flagged--- like if you notice a IP address close to you then a couple of foreign IP addresses(outsourcing flags) take note of the IP address close to you prior to your ad getting flagged.

Then I would go to my competitors ads---more than one and email them something a normal customer would email them. And now you can match the two IPs. I hear its only like 50 cents a flagged ad

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Has anyone here thought that maybe it is not competition? Craigslist itself will flag your ads automatically if it catches on to you posting multiple times or in different cities/categories. I personally never has ghosting issues anymore and strictly flagging issues.

The easy way to tell is if you get an e-mail or not....

If you receive an e-mail = user flagged
If you do not receive an e-mail = CL bot flagged
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How would this work? The flagging programs merely are clicking a link that anyone could manually click. They just do it multiple times and with multiple IPs to cause craigslist automated removal to kick in.

Not sure how a program could stop that. I mean without hacking into craigslist itself. Which seems a bit unlikely and illegal.
Did you read their FAQ? It explains a little how they do it and it can't be any more "illegal" than flagging all of your competitors.

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IF you are getting flagged immediately then it is CL flagging you and you are either spamming or posting in the wrong sections.
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Craigslist is always changing around their format. It's a lot easier to get your ads flagged, not only because of the competition but also because Craigslist staff members decide to flag them since they believe it's spam. Hope this helps!

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Aside from the tips mentioned above, you can also use a software that automatically flag someone's ads similar to yours. Just look around the net by searching Craigslist flagging software on Google. You will definitely find a number of apps just for this purpose.
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If the ad is flagged withing 10-15 min from posting time, then be sure that this is flagged for removal by craiglist, not by anyone else. Because the ad goes live after 10-60min later after posting time. I am saying form my real life experience. Don't try to find out who is flagging your ad, try to find out a different way to post the ad.

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One thing you can do is click the ad 30 or 40 times after posting. Use proxies if you have them. This way if the cl police or some software comes by to flag you, it will also show your ad was visited by someone a lot of times without getting flagged.

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Agreed try posting in a different city to see if it is flagged for content or just the competitors getting one up.

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There isn't much you can do about this sort of BS, but I have heard of several local groups who are targeting those posting duplicate or spammy ads. One group in Los Angeles has about 20 members who take turns looking for these sort of ads then using an auto flagger to target them. Typically the ones who auto flag legitimate ads are also mass posting their own ads, so it sort of gives them a taste of their own medication.

Personally I think that if more people were to work together to address this sort of thing we'd see a lot less of it happening.
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Craigslist is becoming a bigger and bigger pain to deal with. It is no longer just internet marketers that have a problem with it.

There are also people from The General Public who can't list their ipod for sale because it gets flagged automatically.

Personally I don't know how much longer this will last.
Hey guys. I was just wondering how many others here have experienced this? And if so what other troubles had you had with CL when posting your ads?
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Flagproof craiglist please help
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I use Ad-Nuke to flag Craigslist ads and it works but cost money. It cost normally $.06 cent per flag or less depending how much you buy. I go after ads on businesses that hire illegal immigrants and spammers. The rule on Craigslist, you are only suppose to post one ad per catagory only every 48 hours and you are not suppose to use url's, these are the rules. So people are flagging is actually a good thing, it controls the spam and more flags you do on those people. their accounts will eventually turn into ghost accounts where their
accounts are useless.

Flagging is positive and I do recommend flagging ads as Craigslist
does not monitor spam and people doing business without a license, insurance, undocumented workers, unlicensed contractors, vendors,
and more. Craigslist might be free but it comes with a cost, you can flag any post you want if you want to use the free service for posting and flagging.

Personnally Craigslist is bad for business, it hurts businesses, newspapers and etc issues. I can name many examples of bad business practices on Craigslist and what people do on their illegally and Craigslist does nothing. You can buy drugs, have sex, sell weapons, spam personal information and more, Craigslist does nothing. There are bad landlords, bad mechanic's, crooked cleaning companies, bad contractors, insurance scams, phony rentals, unemployeed people getting unemployment money but are running a side business that is stealing for us taxpayers when they should not be collecting, wellfare people lying they need work but are getting social benefits and a whole of other bad tactic's people do on Craigslist for money. Craigslist is one big scam of crooked people posting. Yes they are honest posters but 4 out of 1o are good ads but the rest are bad.

I hope Ebay buys Craigslist and starts charging people to advertise, you have the social people that expect everything for free, its sad but society can't run on free stuff and Craigslist is about the free stuff hurting many businesses that advertise and contribute to society in some form.

In some ways, yes Craigslist is useless but there is more bad things about Craigslist that useless is less important vice versa, so Craigslist needs to go.

You have spam posters and you have flaggers, it evens out to weed out the garage on Craigslist when people see ads that shouldn't be there.

Ad-Nuke I can flag any ad I want and it is gone in 10 minutes to an hour or less.
How did that work out for you?

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Craigslist wins $1 mil in San Fran court, brings down Ad-Nuke.com

Craigslist will receive a $1 million settlement in a court case against a site that charged people to automatically flag Craigslist ads.
Defendant Ad-Nuke.com, in the person of Michael Papp, owner, in the October 10 final judgment, agreed to pay Craigslist $1 million, and to no longer manufacture, distribute or sell software that flags Craigslist ads. Co-defendant Shelley Papp was removed from the case without prejudice.
Ad-Nuke.com, the now-defunct Papp website, offered an automated Craigslist flagging license that allowed its clients to quickly remove others’ Craigslists ads from the site at the rate of ten per day for $100, fifty cents for each additional ad removed, and a discount for removal of more than 500 ads per day.
In 2012, Ad-Nuke claimed to have 1,000 customers, one of which noted on RipOff Report that he flagged ads that hire illegal immigrants. Here’s a video of how it worked.
The case, number 05276, was heard in San Francisco’s U.S. Northern District Court of California.

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Default Re: How to "Auto Flag" Craigslist Ads???

First, I do NOT advocate using mass flagging as a technique. But as someone who has been in the industry:

Mass flagging only works at a distributed IP level. There are methods to be able to correlate IPs.

For example, did you know that CL bans the entire EC2 IP cluster range? This is quite easy to check by trying to make a simple request to CL from those servers.

If you endeavor to go the auto-flagging route, make sure that you are distributing your IPs correctly.

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Hey Denial, how does he know for a fact that the ads are getting down by competitors?
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So many guys are exploiting this awesome platform the wrong way! It's actually sad what some of them will do..
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Yes True, many software are available in the market now to flag the specific keyword ads called auto f lagers. Try to change ad completely and see.
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Default Re: How to "Auto Flag" Craigslist Ads???

i know how can you flagged your competitor ads, I will inform you in you want to know that.
but it's really not good work.
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