How to "Auto Flag" Craigslist Ads???

Profile picture of the author dnjoseph1 by dnjoseph1 Posted: 11/28/2012
One of my clients came to me today highly ticked off. He said the ads he was posting to Craigslist were getting flagged by competition within minutes of going live.

I posted a couple from my account to test this, and saw first hand that it was true. Flagged in 3 minutes, twice.

I saw a thred in which red shifted, nameless, and ken were going back and forth about flagging each other to kingdom come.

My questions:

Is it possible to automatically flag someone's ads?
If so, how is it being done?
Is there a way to combat this?

Thanks a lot for any help.

Daniel
#ads #auto flag #craigslist

  • Profile picture of the author shane_k
    shane_k
    Originally Posted by dnjoseph1 View Post
    One of my clients came to me today highly ticked off. He said the ads he was posting to Craigslist were getting flagged by competition within minutes of going live.

    I posted a couple from my account to test this, and saw first hand that it was true. Flagged in 3 minutes, twice.

    I saw a thred in which red shifted, nameless, and ken were going back and forth about flagging each other to kingdom come.

    My questions:
    If your client is posting an ad from his account and you are posting the same ad from your account and both of them are getting flagged then there is something wrong with the ad.

    It could be competitors, but it could also be normal everyday people who are posting on craigslist and don't like seeing your sales ad in an area where it probably isn't supposed to be, and they feel it is spam so they are flagging it.

    A couple of options.

    Change the ad

    After you do this then pay attention to see if you are still getting flagged. Actually that brings up a question, are any of your clients other ads getting flagged or any of your other ads? if not then again it is probably that specific ad.

    Another option is to post the ad here and maybe other warriors can tell you if it is too spammy or not. there's the possibility that it could be even if you think it isn't.
  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    iAmNameLess
    Originally Posted by dnjoseph1 View Post
    One of my clients came to me today highly ticked off. He said the ads he was posting to Craigslist were getting flagged by competition within minutes of going live.

    I posted a couple from my account to test this, and saw first hand that it was true. Flagged in 3 minutes, twice.

    I saw a thred in which red shifted, nameless, and ken were going back and forth about flagging each other to kingdom come.

    My questions:

    Is it possible to automatically flag someone's ads?
    If so, how is it being done?
    Is there a way to combat this?

    Thanks a lot for any help.

    Daniel
    Answers:
    Yes.
    I'm not telling.
    Post in a different city or where they can't find you.

    I have keywords I look for to auto flag... the software does it. Maybe it is their URL, maybe other keywords, but that is probably it. Chances are I even know the person doing it. LOL.
  • Profile picture of the author ser23
    ser23
    If you are offering a service for your company you can't post in a different state. There is a flagging software called prometheus. Use it!!! it works. You need a proxy switcher and proxies. You can flag ads in a matter of minutes. What i suggest is use it to show a point and them make an agreement, because with flagging, nobody wins.
  • Profile picture of the author johnrone
    johnrone
    Aside from the tips mentioned above, you can also use a software that automatically flag someone's ads similar to yours. Just look around the net by searching Craigslist flagging software on Google. You will definitely find a number of apps just for this purpose.
  • Profile picture of the author Rearden
    Rearden
    Wow.

    Flagging other people's ads automatically. That's just plain pathetic.

    Hate the game, not the player, I know.

    More reason to do direct mail or cold call.
  • Profile picture of the author The General Public
    The General Public
    Craigslist is becoming a bigger and bigger pain to deal with. It is no longer just internet marketers that have a problem with it.

    There are also people from The General Public who can't list their ipod for sale because it gets flagged automatically.

    Personally I don't know how much longer this will last.
  • Profile picture of the author dnjoseph1
    dnjoseph1
    Thanks to everyone who responded. I got my answer. It's a competitor automatically flagging the ads.

    The ads weren't spam. They were relevant ads for a local service company. Different headlines with different bodies in both text and images.

    The flagging didn't start right away. For about a week, it was proving VERY profitable because anywhere from 4-6 good leads were coming in from the Craigslist ads daily. Maybe we started taking away leads from someone else. It makes sense, since the ads we designed were great direct response ads.

    Sucks that people have to stoop that low. Maybe I'll do what Ken mentioned, sniff out who it is and relentlessly hunt down their ads until they disappear.

    Anyhow, thanks for everyone who contributed to helping me out.

    Daniel
  • Profile picture of the author YellowGreenMedia
    YellowGreenMedia
    Originally Posted by Rearden View Post
    Wow.

    Flagging other people's ads automatically. That's just plain pathetic.

    Hate the game, not the player, I know.

    More reason to do direct mail or cold call.
    There will always be scum with a piece of software spoiling everything for everybody, but like he proudly stated "what you gonna do about it?"
  • Profile picture of the author Rearden
    Rearden
    Business is war.

    Go compete in a medium where underhanded garbage like this doesn't happen.

    Like picking up the phone. Or door knocking.
  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    iAmNameLess
    Originally Posted by YellowGreenMedia View Post
    There will always be scum with a piece of software spoiling everything for everybody, but like he proudly stated "what you gonna do about it?"
    That's just how things go... you either adjust or you move over for those that can.
  • Profile picture of the author YellowGreenMedia
    YellowGreenMedia
    Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post
    That's just how things go... you either adjust or you move over for those that can.
    Yeah if you can't beat them ........
  • Profile picture of the author mike_lucas
    mike_lucas
    Originally Posted by Rearden View Post
    Wow.

    Flagging other people's ads automatically. That's just plain pathetic.

    Hate the game, not the player, I know.

    More reason to do direct mail or cold call.

    sorry but I also hate the player as well there is a line that I guess some are willing to cross for the all mighty sell but its as you said pathetic

    I say find someone doing that and target every single ad they post I guess some like living in the gutter
  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    iAmNameLess
    Originally Posted by YellowGreenMedia View Post
    Yeah if you can't beat them ........
    Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot that my goal in business is to do what I can to allow my competition to get the sales....
    Originally Posted by mike_lucas View Post
    sorry but I also hate the player as well there is a line that I guess some are willing to cross for the all mighty sell but its as you said pathetic

    I say find someone doing that and target every single ad they post I guess some like living in the gutter
    If the only form of generating sales for yourself is Craigslist, then it isn't the fault of the person flagging, it is your fault for not having multiple methods of marketing your business.
  • Profile picture of the author Marvin Johnston
    Marvin Johnston
    Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post
    Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot that my goal in business is to do what I can to allow my competition to get the sales....

    If the only form of generating sales for yourself is Craigslist, then it isn't the fault of the person flagging, it is your fault for not having multiple methods of marketing your business.
    I don't think you ever forget what your goal is ... at least judging by your posts.

    You've given some decent advice in the past, but this certainly doesn't qualify.

    What you have forgotten or ignore is the part ethics play in all of this. Flagging competitors ads for competitive reasons is not ethical ... unless you are redefining the word "ethics."

    Marvin
  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    iAmNameLess
    Originally Posted by Marvin Johnston View Post
    I don't think you ever forget what your goal is ... at least judging by your posts.

    You've given some decent advice in the past, but this certainly doesn't qualify.

    What you have forgotten or ignore is the part ethics play in all of this. Flagging competitors ads for competitive reasons is not ethical ... unless you are redefining the word "ethics."

    Marvin
    Forgive me that I get tired of having 10+ people on here copying my ads word for word, and then spamming the hell out of craigslist. Then there are about 20 people on here copying Ewen's ad copy and spamming the hell out of it.

    Ethical?

    If you want to follow the CL terms of service you can only post 1 ad every 48 hours, IN YOUR LOCAL AREA. Anything else then I guess is considered unethical.

    Search engine optimization, the whole process of "gaming the search engines", is unethical by those standards.

    Ethical link building? No... non existent.

    Copywriting? Is it okay to manipulate your prospects using certain colors and words to cause an emotional trigger? Is that unethical?

    Is it unethical to send a direct mailing campaign claiming that YellowBook is dead, obviously that is for competitive reasons, is that unethical?

    This is business. You can either adapt or fall behind. The choice is truly yours. If something I do makes you upset, then I'm sorry for making you upset but I'm not sorry for building my business.

    I understand what you're saying and I respectfully disagree with you. In fact, it used to happen to me all the time, and I had to adjust in order to keep going. Is it dirty? Maybe... but I'm willing to get dirty. To me, that isn't unethical, it is competition. Unethical would be to purposely getting someone elses account ghosted.
  • Profile picture of the author Marvin Johnston
    Marvin Johnston
    Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post
    Forgive me that I get tired of having 10+ people on here copying my ads word for word, and then spamming the hell out of craigslist. Then there are about 20 people on here copying Ewen's ad copy and spamming the hell out of it.

    I understand what you're saying and I respectfully disagree with you. In fact, it used to happen to me all the time, and I had to adjust in order to keep going. Is it dirty? Maybe... but I'm willing to get dirty. To me, that isn't unethical, it is competition. Unethical would be to purposely getting someone elses account ghosted.
    We both know there are unethical people in this world, and I'd get irritated as you have with people copying verbatim something I was doing. Probably more so.

    But I think Ewen has a skill level where copying his words won't significantly affect what he does. I'm not sure, but you might well have a similar skill set.

    I can't remember who said it, but the idea was anyone can steal what he does, but they can't steal his thought process that gets the results.

    And in actuality, our thought processes get the results that our clients are buying.

    Anyway, it sounds like we mostly agree.

    Marvin
  • Profile picture of the author oxforduniversity
    oxforduniversity
    I use Ad-Nuke to flag Craigslist ads and it works but cost money. It cost normally $.06 cent per flag or less depending how much you buy. I go after ads on businesses that hire illegal immigrants and spammers. The rule on Craigslist, you are only suppose to post one ad per catagory only every 48 hours and you are not suppose to use url's, these are the rules. So people are flagging is actually a good thing, it controls the spam and more flags you do on those people. their accounts will eventually turn into ghost accounts where their
    accounts are useless.

    Flagging is positive and I do recommend flagging ads as Craigslist
    does not monitor spam and people doing business without a license, insurance, undocumented workers, unlicensed contractors, vendors,
    and more. Craigslist might be free but it comes with a cost, you can flag any post you want if you want to use the free service for posting and flagging.

    Personnally Craigslist is bad for business, it hurts businesses, newspapers and etc issues. I can name many examples of bad business practices on Craigslist and what people do on their illegally and Craigslist does nothing. You can buy drugs, have sex, sell weapons, spam personal information and more, Craigslist does nothing. There are bad landlords, bad mechanic's, crooked cleaning companies, bad contractors, insurance scams, phony rentals, unemployeed people getting unemployment money but are running a side business that is stealing for us taxpayers when they should not be collecting, wellfare people lying they need work but are getting social benefits and a whole of other bad tactic's people do on Craigslist for money. Craigslist is one big scam of crooked people posting. Yes they are honest posters but 4 out of 1o are good ads but the rest are bad.

    I hope Ebay buys Craigslist and starts charging people to advertise, you have the social people that expect everything for free, its sad but society can't run on free stuff and Craigslist is about the free stuff hurting many businesses that advertise and contribute to society in some form.

    In some ways, yes Craigslist is useless but there is more bad things about Craigslist that useless is less important vice versa, so Craigslist needs to go.

    You have spam posters and you have flaggers, it evens out to weed out the garage on Craigslist when people see ads that shouldn't be there.

    Ad-Nuke I can flag any ad I want and it is gone in 10 minutes to an hour or less.
  • Profile picture of the author bawls
    bawls
    You can track flaggers IPs and a few are stupid enough not use an untraceable proxies...file a John Doe lawsuit to be able to subpoena records, if you can find the origin of the flaggers, you have legal grounds for damages and criminal complaint ...but beyond that nothing can be done outside having voodoo curses cast on them:p
  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    Aaron Doud
    Originally Posted by jaxoby2 View Post
    Try using a software called flagproofer com its free trial no credit card to try and it works. You can stop the flaggers from being able to remove your ad. Its not a flag program that flags people. Its a program that keeps already live ads from getting flagged. Stop the flagging madness i say
    How would this work? The flagging programs merely are clicking a link that anyone could manually click. They just do it multiple times and with multiple IPs to cause craigslist automated removal to kick in.

    Not sure how a program could stop that. I mean without hacking into craigslist itself. Which seems a bit unlikely and illegal.
  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    Lance K
    Originally Posted by johnrone View Post
    Aside from the tips mentioned above, you can also use a software that automatically flag someone's ads similar to yours. Just look around the net by searching Craigslist flagging software on Google. You will definitely find a number of apps just for this purpose.
    It can't imagine feeling insecure and inadequate to the point that I had to tear down my competition in order to succeed in business.

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