How To Be A Marketing Genuis...Even If You Aren't Half Way There

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I'll let this young buck tell you how.

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Ewen

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  • Profile picture of the author philboy uk
    If you dont understand marketing after watching that video, you will never understand.

    Superb.
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    • Profile picture of the author JayBay
      That totally blew my mind wide open and made me take a hard look at myself as a person in the market to help business owners. This was infinitely appreciated.
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    • Profile picture of the author Irish Intuition
      I like Brad. Good stuff Ewen!
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      • Profile picture of the author sandalwood
        I wanted a free eclaire. As always, good stuff Ewen. Appreciate listening to other speakers and always learn something from your posts.

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        • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
          Originally Posted by sandalwood View Post

          I wanted a free eclaire. As always, good stuff Ewen. Appreciate listening to other speakers and always learn something from your posts.

          Tom
          You'd of had to come down to Wellington New Zealand to grab it Tom,
          because that's where the bakery he was referring to is located.

          Still want your free chocolate éclair now?

          Best,
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          • Profile picture of the author sandalwood
            Originally Posted by ewenmack View Post

            You'd of had to come down to Wellington New Zealand to grab it Tom,
            because that's where the bakery he was referring to is located.

            Still want your free chocolate éclair now?

            Best,
            Ewen
            For sure. That would give me a chance to visit my buddy in Dulwich Hill in Sydney. He's been here twice but I've never been there. If I can make it down under next year, I may swing by on my way out of town to say hello and buy you a beer or two. Would love to see both OZ and NZ.

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            • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
              Do swing over Tom and I'll show you around the city of sails.

              Here's some images what it looks like...

              https://www.google.co.nz/search?clie...Ocqjige-w4CoAw

              Here's the dolphins in the harbour...

              https://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=e....1.pbs9v5JS3lY

              And here are the Scnapper caught in the harbour...

              https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=au...iw=988&bih=687

              Best,
              Ewen

              Originally Posted by sandalwood View Post

              For sure. That would give me a chance to visit my buddy in Dulwich Hill in Sydney. He's been here twice but I've never been there. If I can make it down under next year, I may swing by on my way out of town to say hello and buy you a beer or two. Would love to see both OZ and NZ.

              Tom
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            • Profile picture of the author SteveSki
              Originally Posted by sandalwood View Post

              For sure. That would give me a chance to visit my buddy in Dulwich Hill in Sydney. He's been here twice but I've never been there. If I can make it down under next year, I may swing by on my way out of town to say hello and buy you a beer or two. Would love to see both OZ and NZ.

              Tom
              Hey Tom, If you do decide to visit "Father Dave" in Dulwich Hill let me know a couple of months in advance so I can meet up with you and him in Sydney. I'll be in Sydney for a few days later this month and may stop by his church if time permits.

              Cheers,
              Steve
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              • Profile picture of the author sandalwood
                Originally Posted by SteveSki View Post

                Hey Tom, If you do decide to visit "Father Dave" in Dulwich Hill let me know a couple of months in advance so I can meet up with you and him in Sydney. I'll be in Sydney for a few days later this month and may stop by his church if time permits.

                Cheers,
                Steve
                So you know Father Dave, great. He is in the U.S. with one of his boxers, Sol, who is fighting Paul Spadafora for some kind of title. They are in West Virginia. I'd like to arrange a meeting between Dave and Ewen as well. I think they would get along famously. Dave can get free publicity on the drop of a hat. If he wasn't a priest, he'd be one of the richest men on the planet.

                Ewen, not hijacking your thread simply introducing a player you would be proud to know. Oh, he also is a sixth degree black belt and set the world record for consecutive boxing rounds at 120.

                All the best,

                Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    Smart guy. If only I knew what an adverdisment was.
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  • Profile picture of the author hayfj2
    I think the reason brad sugar is a marketing genius is that he manages to convince people to part with £60,000 ($100,000) to become an action coach, then charges them £1500 ($2000+) a month I think it is for the privillege of using his trademark in their geographical area.

    I do wonder what the attrition rate, turnover and penalty fees of these wannabe action coaches is tho.

    But you right ewen, it all good basic stuff.

    I remember funning around with a client, and I asked "If 1.5 pieces of fish, costs £1.50, how many pieces would I get for £10", he didnt know how to work it out.

    Some folk love the numbers, others don't - ask any life coach

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    • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
      Fraser, I know, and exchange emails with their #2 in the world
      out of over 1,000 coaches.

      He has mastered direct response advertising,
      freely gives out his ads and their measured results,
      is building a home cleaning and insurance agency.

      Add to it, he is a genuinly nice guy.

      I once told him I'd come work in his office for free
      a couple of days a week, just to have free access to
      his collection of money making ads.

      I'll just flick him an email and ask him if he has
      an ad for a business type and he will send it over
      with the performance attached to it.

      I send him the results it pulled in another market.

      That's been my experience.

      I had spoken to Brad a couple of times before he Franchised.

      Best,
      Ewen

      Originally Posted by hayfj2 View Post

      I think the reason brad sugar is a marketing genius is that he manages to convince people to part with £60,000 ($100,000) to become an action coach, then charges them £1500 ($2000+) a month I think it is for the privillege of using his trademark in their geographical area.

      I do wonder what the attrition rate, turnover and penalty fees of these wannabe action coaches is tho.

      But you right ewen, it all good basic stuff.

      I remember funning around with a client, and I asked "If 1.5 pieces of fish, costs £1.50, how many pieces would I get for £10", he didnt know how to work it out.

      Some folk love the numbers, others don't - ask any life coach

      regards


      Fraser
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      • Profile picture of the author wagsgraphx
        Excellent Video, thanks for posting it.
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  • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
    I know it's a snippet of the presentation but there's no thought in it of the LTV (long term value) of bakers client.
    Of course get acquistion costs down as much as possible, but remember the aim IRO such as a bakers is to get the customers returning daily/ weekly , telling people about the bakers they just discovered.
    So while it may cost $30 to win a client who may come in and spend only $4.40 and initially that may seem crap, the LTV from each client should be into $000's if handled right.
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    • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
      If I recall correctly Mike, the customers were signed up
      To a VIP club and emaled offers to come back.

      Best,
      Ewen

      Originally Posted by mjbmedia View Post

      I know it's a snippet of the presentation but there's no thought in it of the LTV (long term value) of bakers client.
      Of course get acquistion costs down as much as possible, but remember the aim IRO such as a bakers is to get the customers returning daily/ weekly , telling people about the bakers they just discovered.
      So while it may cost $30 to win a client who may come in and spend only $4.40 and initially that may seem crap, the LTV from each client should be into $000's if handled right.
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    • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
      If I recall correctly Mike, the customers were signed up
      to a VIP club and emailed offers to come back.

      This didn't happen before Brad came on the scene.

      Best,
      Ewen

      Originally Posted by mjbmedia View Post

      I know it's a snippet of the presentation but there's no thought in it of the LTV (long term value) of bakers client.
      Of course get acquistion costs down as much as possible, but remember the aim IRO such as a bakers is to get the customers returning daily/ weekly , telling people about the bakers they just discovered.
      So while it may cost $30 to win a client who may come in and spend only $4.40 and initially that may seem crap, the LTV from each client should be into $000's if handled right.
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      • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
        Originally Posted by ewenmack View Post

        If I recall correctly Mike, the customers were signed up
        to a VIP club and emailed offers to come back.

        This didn't happen before Brad came on the scene.

        Best,
        Ewen
        granted, thats an easy option, but even without that people would come back having gone there once, so while the initial cost would have been $30, the total spend from that investment would have been far more than the $4.40 (or whatever it was) used as an example in the video piece, they would have come back if the food/service was good irrespective of any VIP offers etc at least.
        What I am saying is that Brad gave the worst case scenario (one sale per new customer) when in reality the majority would have totalled more than one sale as it 'proved his point and value ' more and I understand why, but an average would have been a better judgement
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        • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
          The $30 cost per customer was the acquisition cost
          as part of the breakdown on 5 areas to work on to increase profitability.

          Best,
          Ewen

          Originally Posted by mjbmedia View Post

          granted, thats an easy option, but even without that people would come back having gone there once, so while the initial cost would have been $30, the total spend from that investment would have been far more than the $4.40 (or whatever it was) used as an example in the video piece, they would have come back if the food/service was good irrespective of any VIP offers etc at least.
          What I am saying is that Brad gave the worst case scenario (one sale per new customer) when in reality the majority would have totalled more than one sale as it 'proved his point and value ' more and I understand why, but an average would have been a better judgement
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  • Profile picture of the author thattaway
    What a simple message, yet so powerful. Much easier for our clients to understand than all the technical jarngon that we use to impress them. This simple math lesson is the essence of the science of marketing. Thanks for sharing!
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  • Profile picture of the author NewParadigm
    This applies to the daily deals like groupon as well. There is much complaining about groupon not working for businesses. Well, yeah if you are giving away the ENTIRE product or svc at half off!! Do the groupon deals for some portion of your product/svc like an eclair, then upsell em. My friend is making a killing in a medspa doing daily deal sites for a 50% off discount on a couple shots of botox, well guess what, people need several more to get a full treatment, and they buy them at full price.

    It's about customer acquisition cost, figure it as part of your marketing budget.

    Additionally, when talking to business owners, if you don't talk about their customer acquisition cost or lifetime customer value increases from your services, you'll never generate big fees. They'll treat you like a commodity and you'll be discounting your services at near cost plus a little bit, when you should be talking in terms of how much value you are bringing their business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adwizard
    The cost he is talking about is purely an "acquisition" cost, not the total cost of a customer. In marketing we must look at the acquisition cost in order to test and refine all our marketing activities in order to lower that cost as much as possible.

    If we were going to figure out the total cost of each customer then we must figure in all of our costs including overhead and divide that by the total number of customers we have. Of course we want this number as low as possible too and the best ways to lower this number is by obtaining more customers to distribute our total overhead cost to and by cutting unnecessary expenses which would also lower our costs per customer.

    Business consultants would look harder at the cutting costs part while marketing consultants want to grow business more and usually will attack the situation by getting them more customers. This is why we want to normally focus on "Acquisition Costs".
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  • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
    I know the $30 was the upfront acquistion cost (cost), what I am 'moaning' about is Brad used just one sale per customer at $4.40 (value) to show there was a massive gulf in cost to value, when in fact the value is much more than the one $4.40 sale, even before he came along and introduced the VIP system etc people would have been coming back for more purchases, they (bakers) just may not have been recording that fact.

    So the $30 cost would have been bringing in more than JUST $4.40 per customer, but by saying it at JUST $4.40 per customer and pretending no new customer ever came back and made another purchase OR referred others to the bakers, and most of the audience being too dumb to figure out the BS factor, it makes the situation on behalf of the business owner (baker) look pathetically useless and the situation after Brad rides in on his steed as amazingly better, while it is better, it isn't as better as Brad would love us all to think, it's just recorded better .
    He'd have us think the baker was stupidly spending $30 per client and only getting $4.40 return per client, so losing $25.40 per acquistion, that's what he clearly wanted us to think, and many did (do) , but the baker knew many were returning to spend again and bringing others in, he just couldnt prove it , the baker knew the $30 initial spend was likely bringing in well over the $30 in revenue (same clients returning 3 times a week for 3 months say) , but Brad would have us think this wasnt happening so that his own solutions would look far stronger than they maybe are in reality.

    He presents it cleverly, twisting things around to suit his own requirements (as one would do) rather than actually being truly factual
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