Prospecting Or Closing? Which Is Harder To Do?

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Guys. This is a serious question.

I have several books on the back burner that are in various stages of completion. I just hired a guy to assemble the books, format them, and get them printed. (and Kindle versions)

One is on closing. It's nearly done.

But almost every salesperson I ever talk to is absolutely convinced that either the prospecting or closing is the most important part of the sale. And so that's what they want to learn first.

Believe me, I know there are far more parts to the sale.

But the prospecting and closing is what most want to know about.

Anyway, this will not be a WSO. And it will not be about getting offline clients (way too small a niche for a book).

Everything is equal except the topic. I'm using you guys as a sounding board here. Which book should I publish first?
#closing #harder #prospecting
  • Profile picture of the author shane_k
    I would say prospecting.

    Why?

    I was talking with my fellow Personal Trainers a couple of days ago going over sales books we all bought, and what we thought were the good ones.

    And one thing we all agreed on that we wished there was more of was prospecting books.

    There are tons and tons of books on closing, so those are easy to purchase. And alot of them are pretty much the same.

    But a really good book with solid information on different prospecting strategies, that would be like gold.

    We have about 12 diffrent main strategies that we use to get leads/prospects for our Personal Training business, but we are always, always open to more ways to bring customers through the door.
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  • Profile picture of the author vndnbrgj
    Prospecting....

    You will have a far better job closing if you are closing the right kind of prospect.

    And, I agree with Shane, there are a good amount of books on selling and closing.....but not so much prospecting.
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  • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
    I am not sure it is either/or...

    In my experience, I became much better at prospecting when I became better at closing. There is something about being able to talk your way through a sale that helps the prospecting process. Its as if you begin to see a "Golden Thread" that leads you all the way through from prospect to close.

    Also, the more you are closing, the more prospects are sent to you from the folks you have closed. If you can work from close to close this way, the prospecting cycle is greatly shortened. This is especially true of B2B sales...B2C the networking thing is usually a little more difficult.

    I don't see them being at odds with one another, they are two sides of the same coin. Write one book about both!
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  • Profile picture of the author hayfj2
    Hi Claude, I suspect...

    For many, I think the hardest part, it's neither prospecting or closing.

    I think the hardest is having the correct mental attitude in wanting to make the call and use cold calling as a route to market.

    having said that, if they can get over the prospecting hangup, it will only take a matter of time having gotten through to the the right person, asked and listened to the various questions, responses and objections before they tweak their pitch and successfully close.

    In working with a client, we identified key areas they wanted to address (all of equal importance to them)...

    1. Closing
    2. Qualifying
    3. Budget
    4. Think-It-Overs
    5. Gatekeeper
    6. Price Objections
    7. Decision Maker
    8. Other Objections
    9. Sales Cycle
    10. Referrals
    11. Selling System/Process
    12. Prospecting

    Different folks have different strengths, what amazed me about this woman was in 3 years selling blinds for conservatories, (average sale was £12,000 if I recall), she had never ASKED for a referral.

    I suspect that's probably hard for many too for a number of reasons.

    regards


    Fraser
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    I don't find either particularly difficult but I will say that
    I put most of my effort into sifting, sorting and qualifying
    so the closing is pretty much a foregone conclusion.

    When you put the right message in front of the right target closing is simple.

    So... I guess my vote would be prospecting.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    When I use a TO system there is a team of "closers"... They are the ones who suck at cold calling.... so I have to turn them into mere order takers.

    Would never take a good cold prospector off the cold sales floor and make him a closer.

    Prospecting and "pitching" is more hardcore and more valuable. Closers... they get the easy part.

    -John
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    Harder to do? I dunno.

    Which book will sell more? One about closing. It is sexier.
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    • Profile picture of the author Q Estherr
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      Harder to do? I dunno.

      Which book will sell more? One about closing. It is sexier.
      iAmNamesLess, you're a true blue marketer. Super agree on this point!

      And I do think closing is a good starting point to a book on prospecting in time to come, because I suppose having this 'sexy' edge builds your authority & reputation faster. That's just my 2 cents worth, though.

      On the point of reputation, maybe you already have a name out there Claude. I was talking to a friend and handing him a review copy of Deal Clincher and he said he's been reading a book he thoroughly loves from his local library, and it mentions your name several times...!
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by Q Estherr View Post

        I was talking to a friend and handing him a review copy of Deal Clincher and he said he's been reading a book he thoroughly loves from his local library, and it mentions your name several times...!
        I appreciate that. I'm mentioned in two of Dan Kennedy's books, and have complete chapters in two others from the Kennedy group.

        I remember going to speak at a convention. My wife and I were on the plane, and two women were sitting in the seats in front of us.

        After they realized that they were going to the same event, one said "I hear Claude Whitacre is going to speak at the event"

        The other one said "That's the main reason I'm going. I wonder if he will autograph my book" And then the conversation went on to other subjects.

        I kept trying to keep from laughing, because my wife kept mouthing the words that they were saying to tease me, and she kept rolling her eyes.
        To her, I'm just that idiot that keeps losing his keys and can't figure out how to play a DVD on the TV.
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        • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          I kept trying to keep from laughing, because my wife kept mouthing the words that they were saying to tease me, and she kept rolling her eyes.
          To her, I'm just that idiot that keeps losing his keys and can't figure out how to play a DVD on the TV.
          I hear you, Claude... LOL

          You know the old saying... an expert is anyone 50 miles
          from home carrying a brief case... lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      Harder to do? I dunno.

      Which book will sell more? One about closing. It is sexier.
      A true marketer.

      Guys; Which book do I personally think would help the most people? Prospecting, by a huge margin.

      But unfortunately, you guys are part of the "graduating class", so your opinions are more educated than most.

      To me, it's all the same process. Prospecting well is 80% of closing (In my opinion). And a book on Closing would have to cover qualifying, and most of the selling process anyway.

      But most people looking at a book on Amazon will be attracted to one specific part of the process, because they believe that they need help in that one area.


      I just don't want to try to sell a 450 page book.
      Some pretty serious help has been contributed here...anyone else?
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  • Profile picture of the author PrestonSr
    I find closing more difficult
    But the true cause behind this problem is how I prospect
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    • Profile picture of the author shockwave
      I vote for Prospecting. It's not hard to meet with someone, discuss their challenges, build rapport, and present solutions.

      The tough part is finding someone who is READY (actually has a budget - not just 'thinking about it') and WILLING (understands it's an investement, not an expense) to spend money now.

      Customer aquisition is the expensive part.
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  • Profile picture of the author nawshale
    It's prospecting.

    It's not that hard to close a deal when you already have started the process. Why quit when you've already found your target?

    So, again, prospecting gets my vote.
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  • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
    Finish them both and package them together, be different
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by mjbmedia View Post

      Finish them both and package them together, be different
      Not a bad idea, actually. Thanks. My end game was to convert both books and additional material into a workshop.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marvin Johnston
    I like the old adage of selling them what they want and giving them what they need (and of course including what they think they want.)

    To me, a good book is like a good salesletter in that each part (starting with the title) is compelling to read and drives the reader to the next section.

    So I like the idea of including both prospecting and closing.

    A book that I bought years ago (because of the title and a skim of the contents) is List More, Sell More by Jerry Bresser with a subtitle The most effective Listing & Selling System in North America.

    Hope this gives you some ideas.

    Marvin
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    JD is right, there are prospectors and closers and they're two different skill sets. Lots of people are very happy to meet prospects face to face, but give them a phone and ask them to call out and they freak out.

    A few people really enjoy reaching out to others and starting the process, but don't feel a need to take it any further.

    True salespeople can get really depressed with the so-called "rejection" of making calls, and so it may be best to keep them for closing only. That way their self-esteem can't get beat up as easily.

    In my opinion, prospecting is the harder of the two.

    I can stick just about anyone in front of living, breathing prospects and they'll get the business every so often. Even if they have strange mannerisms. And it'll be a higher percentage of success than those who make the calls experience. The two games are different, though; the standards are different, what constitutes success is different, and that is what needs to be understood.
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