Offering A Gift For An Appointment

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This is a real question.

When I was selling vacuum cleaners, I used to offer a gift just to take a look at my product. It dramatically improved the number of apointments made per 100 calls. The better the gift, the better the sales. At one point I was offering a free portable B&W TV just to take a look at my vacuum.

My cost as a tad over $22 for the TVs. We even gave the TV if we decided not to do the presentation (because they were not really qualified).

Anyway, this is not selling vacuum cleaners, this is selling online marketing services to offline businesses.

The question is..have any of you offered a gift if the owner(s) would just talk to you about your services? Has anyone experimented with this idea, and found a reason that it just doesn't work?

In consumer selling in customer's homes, nobody was interested in a vacuum cleaner. Ever. In fact, most couples made a solid pact before I got there that they would not buy anything no matter what......

My office of 8 reps still averaged 41% month after month that would buy. Referrals from buyers (that I worked on) closed (for me only) at a tad over 90%. On referrals, a gift wasn't necessary. But it sure made the prospect happy when we handed it to them.

But I still don't know how that would translate to talking to company owners about online marketing.

The gifts could be anything that the prospect would value, but not cost us a lot. Gift certificates for a 16 lb Turkey in November was pretty darn popular. Gift certificates for Pizzas, cutlery sets, office organizers, calculators, ....most anything.

The gift was always pitched as free with a short presentation. It got me in plenty of doors, and made selling a tad easier (reciprocity at work).
But I don't know of anyone doing that in our field.

I was even thinking of just a free copy of one of my books, but the list price is too low.

I have filled rooms of business owners by offering gift packages (usually with a meal at the site), and have made sales that way.

But I would like some feedback.
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  • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
    I too use to offer a free gift when selling to consumers.

    It was a electric bread maker, valued something between $100 and $150...
    can't quite remember.

    It was for the first 10 who became Lawnmowing clients.

    I stopped doing it because I didn't see it bringing in more A grade clients.

    Concentrated on taking away the perceived annoyance
    in dealing with lawnmowing contractors and this is what pulled in the A graders.

    Claude, shoot me a PM, and I'll tell you what's working unbelievably well
    in selling to businesses.

    Gotta keep it private.

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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Grant
    I've used gifts, just not to get meetings. I used referrals, connections, and a bit of guerilla marketing. A written referral from a current or past client is even better. An invite from LinkedIn to meet for lunch at your city's nicer restaurants should pull a lot more weight than an organizer.It's also more personal, and it's out of the office. When they're out of the office, they're much more relaxed if you're not trying a hard close at the table. To be honest, it sounds like you may need to reposition yourself. To keep them as clients, however, is a different story.

    Oh, you enjoy hunting? Cool, here's the new latest and greatest bow.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eddie Spangler
    I would not use a gift as a specific means to get an appointment.
    Rather I would use it to help keep an appointment and initiate reciprocity.

    For example after the appointment is qualified for need and set THEN at the end I would say "When we meet tomorrow Mr. Smith I will also be bringing you a valuable gift that I know you will appreciate, and you can keep it even if you dont like what I have to say."

    Now they have just a little extra incentive to keep the appointment PLUS when you give it to them it also sends a deeper message that you kept your word.
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  • Profile picture of the author Edengarz
    When ever go out for selling the things. Never try to look out the persons who truly need for what i have. No way just think that i have a product which is no one have it, that practice gives the confidence to sale out every thing no matter what you have.
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  • Profile picture of the author philboy uk
    Some Ideas

    Join the google engage program, they will send you some vouchers which can be used as gifts.

    Offer the business a trackable phone number / QR code / voucher for their newspaper advertisement. After about a month, when the business is aware of how many leads
    the newspaper ad is generating , offer to rewrite newspaper ad,

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  • Profile picture of the author bob ross
    I'm giving out $20 and $25 gas cards and toys r us cards to generate appointments for my B2C biz and it works like crazy but it requires a lot of 'filtering' to qualify the right people we want to see.

    In another month I'm going to send twenty $25 gas cards to my past customers with a letter telling them that if they write an online review they can keep the card, otherwise just simply return the card to my office.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Guys; First, thank you all for giving me ideas.

      Has anyone used a gift as the reason to see you, when selling online services?
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      • Profile picture of the author MaxwellB
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Guys; First, thank you all for giving me ideas.

        Has anyone used a gift as the reason to see you, when selling online services?
        No but I'm going to because of your post.

        To keep costs down I'm going to create pizza cards with a few local shops in my county. Then offer this to business owners who come in to a seminar or agree to an appointment.

        Probably costs $200 for 1000 cards and that's if you have a company make them for you.

        I don't see why it wouldn't work.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by MaxwellB View Post

          No but I'm going to because of your post.

          To keep costs down I'm going to create pizza cards with a few local shops in my county. Then offer this to business owners who come in to a seminar or agree to an appointment.

          Probably costs $200 for 1000 cards and that's if you have a company make them for you.

          I don't see why it wouldn't work.
          Maxwell; If you go to the right shop, they will give you the pizzas for free.
          Most customers will get something else, like drinks, bread sticks, or another pizza.

          I've never paid more than $3 for a pizza, and I didn't pay until after the pizza certificate was redeemed. Some people that get the gift certificate never redeem them. My advice is to not use "buy one pizza, get one free" certificates. It isn't worth saving the money. I've given these away, and the "buy one pizza get one free" certs make some people angry, because I'm promising free pizzas.

          Are you going to give the business owner one free pizza and then also pitch the certificates as a way for them to get customers?

          Our certificates were always printed three to a page, and on card stock. I always put a serial number on each card. Only three real serial numbers though. It costs a lot more for individual numbering.

          The serial numbers are to make the cert look more official, and make copying more difficult.

          I also had a deal with a local car wash for auto detailing certificates. Retail value is about $89 and I think my cost was $10 for every redemption.

          You might want to look into that as well.

          My experience booking seminars with a gift and without is that the gift will perhaps double the number that show up, but only 75% are really interested at all in the subject. But that still gives you a 50% boost in net deals.

          It's amazing what people will do for a free pizza. Dan Kennedy used to use pizza certs to fill a room. Selling a Marketing package.

          For the guys that think gifts bring in the lower quality clients, you are right.
          But the also ring in more better quality clients. You just end up with a few "free lunch deadbeats".

          I was in Chicago at an event put on for business owners. There were 300 in attendance. I was the featured speaker. The host had lobster, beer, wine, cheese plates and roast beef in his catered buffet.

          He told me his big fear was that homeless people would find out about it and show up for the free food. That idea had never crossed my mind.

          But sure enough, he had to have about a dozen escorted out, that weren't invited, and were crashing the party. But it sure was a good sales day for me.
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          • Profile picture of the author MaxwellB
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Maxwell; If you go to the right shop, they will give you the pizzas for free.
            Most customers will get something else, like drinks, bread sticks, or another pizza.

            I've never paid more than $3 for a pizza, and I didn't pay until after the pizza certificate was redeemed. Some people that get the gift certificate never redeem them. My advice is to not use "buy one pizza, get one free" certificates. It isn't worth saving the money. I've given these away, and the "buy one pizza get one free" certs make some people angry, because I'm promising free pizzas.

            Are you going to give the business owner one free pizza and then also pitch the certificates as a way for them to get customers?

            Our certificates were always printed three to a page, and on card stock. I always put a serial number on each card. Only three real serial numbers though. It costs a lot more for individual numbering.

            The serial numbers are to make the cert look more official, and make copying more difficult.

            I also had a deal with a local car wash for auto detailing certificates. Retail value is about $89 and I think my cost was $10 for every redemption.

            You might want to look into that as well.

            My experience booking seminars with a gift and without is that the gift will perhaps double the number that show up, but only 75% are really interested at all in the subject. But that still gives you a 50% boost in net deals.

            It's amazing what people will do for a free pizza. Dan Kennedy used to use pizza certs to fill a room. Selling a Marketing package.

            For the guys that think gifts bring in the lower quality clients, you are right.
            But the also ring in more better quality clients. You just end up with a few "free lunch deadbeats".

            I was in Chicago at an event put on for business owners. There were 300 in attendance. I was the featured speaker. The host had lobster, beer, wine, cheese plates and roast beef in his catered buffet.

            He told me his big fear was that homeless people would find out about it and show up for the free food. That idea had never crossed my mind.

            But sure enough, he had to have about a dozen escorted out, that weren't invited, and were crashing the party. But it sure was a good sales day for me.
            Claude, so you think I could get pizza shops to literally give me the ability to give away pizza's for free? Maybe I can like pay them $3-5 per pizza when it's redeemed or something.

            Yeah the buy one get one free cards probably wouldnt be a ton of value, I mean there is value but it's not really free since you have to buy something.

            So with the seminars where you spoke at, was it like a time share seminar haha where afterward everyone went and talked to a consultant or did he follow up with them afterward?
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by MaxwellB View Post

              Claude, so you think I could get pizza shops to literally give me the ability to give away pizza's for free? Maybe I can like pay them $3-5 per pizza when it's redeemed or something.

              Yeah the buy one get one free cards probably wouldnt be a ton of value, I mean there is value but it's not really free since you have to buy something.

              So with the seminars where you spoke at, was it like a time share seminar haha where afterward everyone went and talked to a consultant or did he follow up with them afterward?
              Pizza shops need new customers. It only costs about $2 to make a large pizza. The idea is easy to sell,and you only need one local Pizza place to like the idea.

              The seminars I spoke at were business people gathering to hear me talk about advertising. I sold an advertising information package for $695. 31 people bought.

              It would have been far better, but a snow storm came in while the event was going on. 300 people arrived and ate...180 people listened to my talk. When I arrived there was just an inch of snow on the ground. When I left, there was nearly a foot. My flight left 7 hours late because of the storm. It would have been faster to drive.

              My host lost money on the event. I volunteered to give him a bigger share of my sales (he got 50%, very standard), but he wouldn't have it. A real stand up guy. When he talks, he sounds just like Jerry Seinfeld.
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              • Profile picture of the author sandalwood
                @Rearden

                Is it rebating to give a gift in exchange for an appointment?


                Claude gave a response just below these few words. I agree with him but I was quoting what we were told by the DOI. I would call to be sure it wasn't rebating simply for an appointment. I would call because the seat warmer at the DOI is always right. Period. When you find yourself in front of a hearing commissioner to explain your position, you have to prove yourself. The DOI seat warmer does not. They are taken at face value and on the side of truth justice and the american way.

                @Claude

                Reardon and Tom: It isn't a rebate to give a gift for an appointment. It's a rebate if you offer a gift to buy. Dan Kennedy has a Guru in the insurance niche, and they fought and fought about the gifts. If you actually look up the law, it's for buying a policy.

                That's why you see seminars, offering free dinners, targeting seniors where they are pitched insurance products.


                I fully understand the difference. You can believe that even though I am old and decrepit. I was speaking from an insurance administrator's view. Giving a gift for an appointment could be stretched into rebating especially if the person buys a policy from you.

                And, I fully realize there are all kinds of come to my free eat and buy seminars aimed at selling insurance to people. The Medicare overseers no longer allow this kind of solicitation. You can invite them to APPROVED seminars but you can't feed them. That tells me this kind of activity is frowned on by your over protective bureaurats.

                We did them when I was at Dean Witter. Almost always the product was a high ticket item, read huge commissions. People still do them as far as I know.

                Here's my point, this is insurance. Insurance commissioners have had their tit in a lot of ringers because of fraud and other crap insurance types would do to old people. Their response was to change the rules.

                I am not claiming to know all the rules so don't take it that way. I am merely saying you are far better off getting an interpretation from the DOI on what THEY consider rebating. In the end, only their interpretation counts. Nobody on this forum can get your license back once the commish decides you've been a nasty ******* and have ripped off a senior or two.

                Truth is they'll even put out a press release praising themselves as senior saviors because they took a pariah off the street. Again, only my opinion based on conversations with the DOI.

                Good luck.

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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Originally Posted by sandalwood View Post

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                  Truth is they'll even put out a press release praising themselves as senior saviors because they took a pariah off the street. Again, only my opinion based on conversations with the DOI.

                  Good luck.

                  Tom
                  Tom; Thank you for being so gentle with me.

                  One way I think would be advisable is to hold a seminar, and not sell at the seminar. Make an appointment afterward. You just make sure you see them the next day or the day after, or all the momentum will be gone.

                  I have a friend who sold fire alarm this exact way, and made serious money.

                  He targeted (bad word maybe) seniors simply because they could show up for lunch, and the appointments could be made at any time of day.

                  The vacation certificates are free. They have no cash value. I cannot conceive that this would get anyone in trouble.
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                  • Profile picture of the author sandalwood
                    Claude,

                    In part you said:

                    One way I think would be advisable is to hold a seminar, and not sell at the seminar. Make an appointment afterward. You just make sure you see them the next day or the day after, or all the momentum will be gone.

                    so that is what I will address. As for the make sure you see them the next day or the day after, you have certain guidelines to meet when soliciting for Medicare products. One of them is a form that the senior signs saying they asked for the appt. Yes, if they attend your seminar, and btw you better not be selling at your seminar unless you have signed forms, they will ask for the appt so no big deal unless the senior says they never asked or they were hood winked into it by some silver talking man at a seminar they went to at the local Flea Bait Motel Bar and Grill.

                    All you need is one of those going to CMS and your old company becomes your "ex" company real fast. The company even tells that to the agent in the annual qualification to sell Medicare products seminar the agent has to attend.

                    I quit selling the stuff cuz I don't like my name in front of the commish. The staffer is all too eager to pounce. I could go on for hours but what the hell why? Suffice it to say, READ and KNOW all the regs, policies and procedures BEFORE you solicit a senior citizen if you are in the life or medicare insurance business.

                    I ain't trying to rain on anyone's parade. I'm telling you what I have personally experienced in this business. The damned annual qualification is a real PITA and that's just one in a long line of hoops.

                    Again, good luck to all who perservere in chasing seniors. I"m one and I get chased every week. I believe if you have the fortitude get into the final expense niche. Only one hoop that I know of in that niche and that's a phone call you have to make immediatley after they sign the form. Not when you get to the office or the bar but then and there at the point of sale.

                    Enuf said at least according to me...

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  • Profile picture of the author Rearden
    Claude and everybody else:

    What would you offer as a free gift to 60-85 year olds, low-income, either retired on SS or disabled getting SSDI, that's low in cost but has a high perceived value?

    I ask because life insurance replacement is a huge source of sales for me versus selling a brand new policy to a person who doesn't hold life insurance.

    But getting in the door, as you know, is always the hardest part.

    I thought about $10 gas cards, or $5 in Powerball Lotto tickets.

    I want a gift that's exciting and fun (like lotto tickets) -- figured the chance of hitting it big to be a multi-millionaire might excite these poor folks.

    Thoughts?
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    • Profile picture of the author sandalwood
      Originally Posted by Rearden View Post

      Claude and everybody else:

      What would you offer as a free gift to 60-85 year olds, low-income, either retired on SS or disabled getting SSDI, that's low in cost but has a high perceived value?

      I ask because life insurance replacement is a huge source of sales for me versus selling a brand new policy to a person who doesn't hold life insurance.

      But getting in the door, as you know, is always the hardest part.

      I thought about $10 gas cards, or $5 in Powerball Lotto tickets.

      I want a gift that's exciting and fun (like lotto tickets) -- figured the chance of hitting it big to be a multi-millionaire might excite these poor folks.

      Thoughts?
      I don't know which state you are licensed but in NV, the things you mentioned are considered a rebate. If they catch you giving a rebate, they take your license. How do I know? We called the NV DOI and asked. The lady was very emphatic.

      Yes, they can be offered free books by the company or some other bangle or bead and that isn't rebating. The DOI reasoning as explained to us was the company isn't rebating they are issuing the policy. The agent is rebating to entice the client to sign up.

      Won't argue semantics or bureaucrat logic with anyone. We don't give 'em anything. If they buy, they buy. If they don't they don't.

      Wow, replacing life insurance on a senior citizen is one step away from a huge lawsuit, at least here. The companies we write for scrutinize the hell out of replacements and especially in that age bracket.

      Just relying my experience given you asked.

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  • Profile picture of the author Rearden
    We replace garbage policies with much better policies, either based on a reduction in premium, increase/faster fulfillment in/of death benefit, or a combination of both, done with his or her full consent (through a signed replacement letter).

    I understand rebating to reference giving a gift in exchange for buying a policy.

    Is it rebating to give a gift in exchange for an appointment?
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Rearden View Post

      We replace garbage policies with much better policies, either based on a reduction in premium, increase/faster fulfillment in/of death benefit, or a combination of both, done with his or her full consent (through a signed replacement letter).

      I understand rebating to reference giving a gift in exchange for buying a policy.

      Is it rebating to give a gift in exchange for an appointment?
      Reardon and Tom: It isn't a rebate to give a gift for an appointment. It's a rebate if you offer a gift to buy. Dan Kennedy has a Guru in the insurance niche, and they fought and fought about the gifts. If you actually look up the law, it's for buying a policy.

      That's why you see seminars, offering free dinners, targeting seniors where they are pitched insurance products.

      Frankly, to be safe, I wouldn't offer a gift for an appointment to someone who was already a policy holder.

      A gift that works exceedingly well for seniors is a three day hotel certificate that is good at 28 locations (I think 28). The cost is about $2. Some places you can pay a $99 fee to print you own for free. High perceived value low cost. No idea where to get them, but a quick look up on Google for "Vacation certificates" should get you there fast.

      But the best senior gift? A free meal with a presentation about insurance (or retirement planning) You can fill a room easily by mailing out postcards for a free dinner and a talk on (any subject). Unfortunately, some seniors are used to this and go to every free meal offered. But Insurance people sell a lot of insurance this way.

      There are even a few companies that will print, mail, provide the names, and even guarantee attendance. I'm not kidding.

      Financial Seminar Marketing: Unbeatable Pricing on Financial Seminars! is one.

      Here's a place to get the hotel certificates for free.

      Free Vacation Gif Cards 3 Day & 2 Night Free vacation Getaway Incentives | Discount Vacations & Package Deals

      The law for insurance may have changed in the last two years, but I've been hearing this for 20 years. Read the law itself, and you'll know.

      edited after I came to my senses: Look up the law. Don't call, look it up. i'm going from memory here, and Nevada may be different from Ohio. In Ohio, there is no such law for gifts.

      Many agents confuse the law for government legislators for the law for insurance sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author vndnbrgj
    I recently contacted a developer to help me create a gift to give away for appts.

    (If you're reading this... Get back to me! )

    I think a gift is good. Not very many people are doing it, and if it adds value it will help differentiate you from the rest of the so called "Marketing Consultants"
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by vndnbrgj View Post

      I recently contacted a developer to help me create a gift to give away for appts.

      (If you're reading this... Get back to me! )

      I think a gift is good. Not very many people are doing it, and if it adds value it will help differentiate you from the rest of the so called "Marketing Consultants"
      I would love to know what the gift is.
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      • Profile picture of the author sandalwood
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I would love to know what the gift is.
        Me too. But onto another branch of this tree. I was surfing the businesses that supply dollar stores with their merchandise. And, yes, I go to dollar stores myself. The local two block away store is the only place I can find my salad crackers. Not even Sam's Costco or Winco carries them. Sigh...

        Back on track. I was amazed at the stuff a guy could pick up for forty to fifty cents that could be given away as gifts. I don't mean cheesy crap either but stuff people would actually use. Well, OK, it is cheesy but people still would use it.

        These same suppliers also have stuff that costs over a dollar and up to five dollars. Some of these items would be perfect gifts as well.

        I don't know how many people want to pursue this but it is an option. I've been at trade shows and have seen people standing in line to get a free ball point pen so I don't think I'm too far off.

        Anyway, just a thought...

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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by sandalwood View Post

          I don't know how many people want to pursue this but it is an option. I've been at trade shows and have seen people standing in line to get a free ball point pen so I don't think I'm too far off.

          Anyway, just a thought...

          Tom
          You brought up a good point. The gift doesn't have to apply to what you sell. I've gone to Closeout stores, found a 10lb box of Tide soap, and bought all they had for a buck apiece. I gave them to anyone that would look at my vacuum. Anything I could just hand to someone when I first got there. There is power in giving a gift, especialy when it's not expected.

          Yesterday a gentleman came into my store, and I put a belt on his vacuum without charging him.

          He wanted to pay me. I refused. He said "I expect to pay for this", and I said "That's what makes it a gift". He started crying.

          It wasn't the first time I've seen this.

          Giving things away in my store, to people who don't expect it, generates more sales every year than any other form of advertising I do. Even online. Even my sporatic bouts of calling old customers on the phone. (the most concentrated profit producer for me is calling old customers with an offer)

          In a three month period, I gave away vacuum cleaner belts that I would have sold for about $240 (Yes, I kept track). These freebies generated, from that source alone over $6,000 in profit. Imagine how you could apply this to your business.


          So freebies work. Gifts work. But it's far less effective when the person expects it. So I would (when selling in home) give the gift promised, and another one. And always before I started selling.

          Here is something that will make you money;
          Many of my customers (in home or in their offices) sell some cheap thing.
          Toys, crafts (very common) or they have a home business of some sort. If the product is under $50. I always buy one, and I always do it as soon as I can. I act like it's a great product that I will prize (sometimes it really is). I have done this a few hundred times, I'm sure.

          I have never missed one of these sales. Everyone has bought. 100% closing ratio. (I'm trying to make this clear). This is nearly unteachable. I've tried.

          But never...never make it part of the deal. You must buy first, pay them, and then show what you have. There can be no conditions attached.

          Once an elderly man (I feel very close to most older people) needed help with his vacuum. I helped him with it, and said "Thank you, no charge this time"
          He actually got angry. He said "I'm old, but I have money. I'm not a charity case!" (his face was getting red). I said "I know you're not. I can tell you have money. Not charging you was a token of respect"

          He said "I'll remember that". Imagine the rest of his day.

          What story do you think they tell when they get home? What do they tell their friends?

          I'm a hard business person. I know much about advertising and marketing...and I know more about selling than most (I'm trying to be humble here). This works. But you know what? I did it before I knew it worked. Why?
          Because when local people wave at me on the street...I want them to use all their fingers.

          I can't believe I forgot about that.

          Want another way to almost guarantee a sale? Accept any gift they offer.
          A cup of coffee, a glass of water, anything. I act like I really wanted it and was afraid to ask. I take a drink and let out a sigh...like I really needed that water.
          Now they are ready to talk business....

          In an office with an irate client? Ask for something (Not to use the bathroom) Ask for a glass of water. Why?

          It's impossible to do someone a favor and show anger at them at the same time.

          OK, now back to work for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
      Originally Posted by vndnbrgj View Post

      I recently contacted a developer to help me create a gift to give away for appts.

      (If you're reading this... Get back to me! )

      I think a gift is good. Not very many people are doing it, and if it adds value it will help differentiate you from the rest of the so called "Marketing Consultants"
      duly noted brotha.

      Skype man... i suck at email ... really i do.. think about it.. two years... or thereabouts. How many email conversations? how many skype?

      If i don't hear from you in 24, i will capitulate ... grrr.
      and email you.

      OP sorry for going off topic. blame john
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    There are alot of great things you can offer as a free gift these days, a couple of examples are free adwords vouchers , or free mobile version of your site.

    These also give you things you can upsell on. After you give someone a free adwords voucher, you can offer to do their campaign for them...and if they buy your services, you can also throw in the initials adwords campaign management for them for free. (Giving them yet another reason to do business with you).

    Once you give them a free mobile version of their site, you can also upsell on that...or if they buy the offer you are presenting, you can, instead, throw those upsell offers in there for free as part of their monthly maintenance program... thereby adding value and bonuses to your package.

    You can also throw the ad campaign managementm or mobile seo into your monthly maintenance program for a "if you buy the services today", urgent one time offer.

    In other words, you can pick free gifts to offer which give you even more leverage in your sales presentation. For instance, a person may be glad to have the adwords voucher, but have no clue how to use it, which is where you can leverage the free gift a bit. If they CAN do it themselves then great. It was a great free gift just for listening to your presentation. They will be obliged the next time you call and check up on them.

    In short I recommend gifts that work synergistically with your presentation.

    Hope this helps.

    In short, a free adwords voucher has value... but only if a person can put up a campaign for themselves, this makes you even more valuable, because you are giving it to them, but you can also create the campaign for them for a fee, and you can also throw the campaign management fees in for free if they buy your primary offer. So the free gift will actually help you close the sale, not merely "Get you in the door"..

    -John
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      There are alot of great things you can offer as a free gift these days, a couple of examples are free adwords vouchers , or free mobile version of your site.

      These also give you things you can upsell on. After you give someone a free adwords voucher, you can offer to do their campaign for them...and if they buy your services, you can also throw in the initials adwords campaign management for them for free. (Giving them yet another reason to do business with you).

      Once you give them a free mobile version of their site, you can also upsell on that...or if they buy the offer you are presenting, you can, instead, throw those upsell offers in there for free as part of their monthly maintenance program... thereby adding value and bonuses to your package.

      In other words, you can pick free gifts to offer which give you even more leverage in your sales presentation. For instance, a person may be glad to have the adwords voucher, but have no clue how to use it, which is where you can leverage the free gift a bit. If they CAN do it themselves then great. It was a great free gift just for listening to your presentation. They will be obliged the next time you call and check up on them.

      In short I recommend gifts that work synergistically with your presentation.
      So the free gift will actually help you close the sale, not merely "Get you in the door"..

      -John
      John; Please do not post an idea that is more intelligent than my idea. It's embarrassing.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Lol. I dont think it was more intelligent than your idea Claude, just another angle. We develop over the years as salespeople to where we see opportunities to leverage everything in our hands or that is in front of us in sales situations... I know you do this naturally, knowing your back ground.

    If you are going to give a gift just for the opportunity to go spend your gas to present your idea to someone, it may as well be a gift that gives you more leverage in your presentation. Synergy is such an important word where it applies to the various elements of our presentation.

    Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post


    OP sorry for going off topic. blame john
    Sure whats one more cross to bear? I can handle it.
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  • Profile picture of the author susann22
    nice! ;-) good luck with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yogini
    My step-dad used to sell funeral plots and he said that they would give free seminars with a free dinner and lots of people came for the free "early bird special". They did get a few sales but it was mostly people wanting the meal.

    I had an experience a few weeks ago where I wanted to leave a flyer about my workshop at health clubs and knew they didn't put up external services. I talked the girl at the desk and asked her if I could give her some of my 24 page booklets to give to clients. She was happy with that and then let me leave my flyer next to it. It also has helped me actually to get better treatment at doctor's appointments as I give them some for the waiting room and they seem to give me a little more time.

    So, books can help with gatekeepers and professionals but not sure how it would work as a way to get appointments.

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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Yogini View Post

      My step-dad used to sell funeral plots and he said that they would give free seminars with a free dinner and lots of people came for the free "early bird special". They did get a few sales but it was mostly people wanting the meal.

      I had an experience a few weeks ago where I wanted to leave a flyer about my workshop at health clubs and knew they didn't put up external services. I talked the girl at the desk and asked her if I could give her some of my 24 page booklets to give to clients. She was happy with that and then let me leave my flyer next to it. It also has helped me actually to get better treatment at doctor's appointments as I give them some for the waiting room and they seem to give me a little more time.

      So, books can help with gatekeepers and professionals but not sure how it would work as a way to get appointments.

      Debbie
      Debbie (and the rest of you mugs):

      Yeah, the free dinners attract the freeloaders. But that is just figured into the cost VS the profit made. It still comes out well, especially if you have a high price point. Selling scented candles? Maybe not. A few feet of real estate for $5,000? Yes. Offline marketing packages? Yes.


      I did a talk for the Home inspection industry. One of their best strategies is to give a bucket of candy to real estate offices, with their brochures stuffed in the back. There is a little "talk" they give when they deliver the bucket of candy. But they refill it every two weeks (I think).

      I met hundreds of home inspectors that say this is so profitable, that it's the only marketing they do. I had dinner with one home inspector that told me he bought $2,000 in bulk candy every two weeks in Dallas Texas (Again, I think) to resupply the hundreds of real estate offices on his "route". He has a major business just giving away candy and reminding real estate people that he's the guy that gave it to them.

      It was the first time I had heard of this. I thought for a few hours on the flight back, how I could translate this idea to my retail store, or my offline marketing business. I would love any ideas.
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      • Profile picture of the author hardyfella
        Love this, you just know offices love the guy who delivers free sweets every couple of weeks, costs nothing compared to the potential business obtained in return.

        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Debbie (and the rest of you mugs):

        Yeah, the free dinners attract the freeloaders. But that is just figured into the cost VS the profit made. It still comes out well, especially if you have a high price point. Selling scented candles? Maybe not. A few feet of real estate for $5,000? Yes. Offline marketing packages? Yes.


        I did a talk for the Home inspection industry. One of their best strategies is to give a bucket of candy to real estate offices, with their brochures stuffed in the back. There is a little "talk" they give when they deliver the bucket of candy. But they refill it every two weeks (I think).

        I met hundreds of home inspectors that say this is so profitable, that it's the only marketing they do. I had dinner with one home inspector that told me he bought $2,000 in bulk candy every two weeks in Dallas Texas (Again, I think) to resupply the hundreds of real estate offices on his "route". He has a major business just giving away candy and reminding real estate people that he's the guy that gave it to them.

        It was the first time I had heard of this. I thought for a few hours on the flight back, how I could translate this idea to my retail store, or my offline marketing business. I would love any ideas.
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        • Profile picture of the author hardyfella
          bringing any kind of food/sweets to any new or regular client is always well received. We have a recruitment rep come into our place with a box of crispy cremes on a regular basis.
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  • Profile picture of the author Carl Fridsjö
    Giving a gift makes the receiver more inclined to do something for you, regardless of how it's received (negative or positive).

    Ever seen someone from the Hare Krishna hand out a flower before asking for a donation? It's not out of kindness. People don't like it, but it's still a psychological trick that works. When they started doing it, their donations went through the roof.

    The economic value of the gift doesn't really matter either (as in the flower example). Just bringing a coffee to your next meeting could get your closing rates up significantly even if you're selling something high-priced.

    Robert Cialdini talks about this to a greater extent in the book Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion. Highly recommended.
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