Great salesperson, okay web designer? Can I succeed?

by ckbank
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I'm just looking to make the average salary of a college grad. About $30-$40K a year. I have experience in inside sales and I'm a pretty good salesperson. Can a person who is good at sales but not necessarily a great web designer still make decent money?
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  • Profile picture of the author Carl Fridsjö
    Yes!

    I'm neither a great web designer or a great salesperson but my company will make far more than that this year (I do have some skills, I'm not completely useless).

    Being a great salesperson is way better than the other way around, it's not too hard to find talented web designers.
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  • Profile picture of the author BacklinksPlus
    If you just starting the best thing to do is price your services accordingly. Dont try to compete with the seasoned designers. Price it low and reasonable and you should do fine.
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    • Profile picture of the author tmitsoff
      I would agree that the salesperson quality will put you in very high demand if you are good at it. Web designers are everywhere; really good salespeople are not.

      Do you sell digital products? I'm looking for sales help (can telecommute from anywhere) if you understand digital products and the benefits they have to small businesses. If you're interested, drop me a note at the email address below.
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  • Profile picture of the author TakenAction
    My advice would be to start slow and just contact some local businesses (in person or on the phone) and tell them the benefits of a re-design for their current website etc. (easier to sell a biz a re-design than a biz with no website) then proceed to create the site and start building a portfolio.

    Then I would recommend to eventually set up some way to generate leads and outsource web design work to someone reliable and cheap on this site and add enough value to charge a decent amount for web design work. ($900-$1,500).

    You can easily make more than a newly college grad salary.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sherry Han
    I wish I had your "dilemma"! Like many have already said, skill in sales > skill in web design or any other "behind-the-scenes" work. I myself am not a salesman, and I'm more of a jack of all trades when it comes to web design and IM services. Good salesmen are also incredibly difficult to find and hire. The ones we've had in the past caused issues of all kinds. Some never made a single sale and just sat through the training for the hourly wage (although this was our fault for poor decision-making as far as compensation goes). Others even told our clients untrue statements just to get the sale! That's why I am looking for one to join my company as a shareholding partner. If they have more invested in the entire company's success, then I'm sure they will work harder as well as not take any shortcuts.

    So be happy that you're a good salesman! I'm sure you will do more than fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sue McDonald
    Yes you could succeed there are people who did not have these skills but are making a very good living online.
    All you really need is a product that will help people in someway. People are looking for solutions to their problems when they come online and if you can solve it for them then they will buy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    If you really are a great sales person why limit yourself?

    $30 to $40k/yr? You can make that selling for just about anyone. Hell at some companies you would get fired for under performance at $40k/yr.

    Now if you want to own your own business that is fine but aim higher since a great salesman is worth $100k+/yr
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    • Profile picture of the author ckbank
      Originally Posted by Aaron Doud View Post

      If you really are a great sales person why limit yourself?

      $30 to $40k/yr? You can make that selling for just about anyone. Hell at some companies you would get fired for under performance at $40k/yr.

      Now if you want to own your own business that is fine but aim higher since a great salesman is worth $100k+/yr
      You are correct, but if someone hasn't made that kind of money without a job, it's extremely difficult to get into that mindset.
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      • Profile picture of the author Irish Intuition
        'Great salesperson' may be a little exaggerated, eh?

        Don't worry much about that. I have yet to meet a salesman
        or marketer who does not put a little something extra on it.

        A good sales mentality can elevate you in many areas of your life,
        from money you make to women you date. After all one needs
        to be able to sell himself as well

        A factory worker can make $40k a year (respectively), a really
        good salesman can make $100k+

        Then again it really depends on what you are selling. If you are
        selling a thingy that you make $20 from, you need A LOT of sales.

        Choose only services/products that give you the most return
        on your time and skill.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    I agree it is difficult. Which is why I point it out. I'd rather aim too high and miss vs. aim to low and hit the bullseye.

    You know you are a great salesperson. All I am doing is telling you what a great salesperson should be making based on real world experience.

    When you work for others the market will set your pay. When you work for yourself too often people set the bar too low and the business can't grow and incomes "tops out" too low.

    Years ago I lost out on a sales job because when the manager asked me what I wanted to make I told him I needed to make at least $30k to $40k. In a sales environment that is the wrong answer. A better answer would have been, "I expect to make $40k in my first year based on that being what your average sales person does. My goal would be to make $100k by year three."

    I know that name because I have more experience and have been a sales manager myself. And I have as a manager let people go for underperformance who were making $30k+ a year.

    So aim high and set goals.
    Minimum Goal could be $40k in 2013
    Realistic Goal coule be $60K in 2013
    Stretch Goal could be $100k in 2013

    As you can see I am a big fan of having multiple level goals.
    Minimum Goal: Level you know you can hit. If you don't hit this level you consider changing your plans completely.
    Realistic Goal: This should be challenging but attainable. You expect to get to this point or better based on your plan.
    Stretch Goal: This is where you aim. You may not hit it but you will try your best. Many stretch goals become realistic goals for the following year.

    If you make your plan around your realistic goal and aim at your stretch goal you know hitting your minimum is a given. Think of the goals like steps and you want to climb to the top.
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