Let's be honest: You don't REALLY hate selling, do you?

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Sometimes I find it interesting (and slightly ironic) that the SELLING POINT of many offline marketing courses is "you DON'T have to sell". It just goes to show how selling is big STICKING POINT for many offline marketers.

I used to think so, too -- I would either avoid selling altogether or avoid confronting prospects personally (and hide behind my computer instead).

But at some point you'd realize, as I did, that marketing (online marketing or offline marketing) is fundamentally about selling. (It's just good selling gives you so much value up-front that it doesn't seem like selling.)

Now comes the question: Do you REALLY hate selling?

Most would answer "yes".

Sure, you may think you hate selling just like 99% of people out there, but the truth is, you don't hate the process of selling per se. You just hate the fact that you might get rejected.

Think about it, if you know for sure that every time you ask someone to buy from you that person would say "yes", wouldn't you LOVE selling?

But NOBODY can realistically close every sale, isn't it?

Rejection is unavoidable.

Even if your rejection rate is ONLY 20% (i.e. an extraordinary closing rate), you would STILL hate the 2 out of 10 times of getting rejected. In other words, you can't expect the feeling of rejection to go away. You have to recognize that selling is a numbers game.

I've gone through a dozen courses on selling, but no matter how good I become at face-to-face or on-the-phone selling, I still get butterflies in my stomach regularly, especially before I close big deals.

So I think it's important you learn how to prepare yourself mentally to take selling HEAD-ON instead of SHUNNING AWAY from selling.

Here's a proven mental strategy I use on a daily basis: Put a dollar value on each prospect that you contact. If you can get 1 out of 20 people to sign up a $3000 service, each time you talk to a prospect, consider yourself making $150 right there and then, regardless of the outcome. That means, you earn $150 even if you get turned down after a 3-minute phone call.

I know a lot of people are aware of this strategy, but how many are really applying it? I personally find it immensely helpful. In fact, I think it's responsible for some of the largest deals I've closed.

Does that sound like something you could use too?

If not, what are some of the mental strategies that have worked for you?
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  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    Originally Posted by Owen Lee View Post

    Here's a proven mental strategy I use on a daily basis: Put a dollar value on each prospect that you contact. If you can get 1 out of 20 people to sign up a $3000 service, each time you talk to a prospect, consider yourself making $150 right there and then, regardless of the outcome. That means, you earn $150 even if you get turned down after a 3-minute phone call.

    I know a lot of people are aware of this strategy, but how many are really applying it? I personally find it immensely helpful. In fact, I think it's responsible for some of the largest deals I've closed.

    Does that sound like something you could use too?
    I found the opposite works for me. If I don't think of my prospect as representing money but think of them as fellow humans who need some help, that's the right bearing for me.

    Thinking of them in dollar terms reminds me too much of the old cartoons where in Elmer Fudd's eyes he sees Daffy Duck served up cooked on a silver platter.
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  • Profile picture of the author missmiss
    So funny!

    I have 2 Sales Conversations tomorrow and I'm soo nervous. I'm never not nervous. I keep saying to myself. Just have a conversation, you're here to help them. If they want it great, if not, !@#$$$! (ha ha)

    No. I'm going to see it as more ammo for my marketing message. Still learning.
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    • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
      Originally Posted by missmiss View Post

      So funny!

      I have 2 Sales Conversations tomorrow and I'm soo nervous. I'm never not nervous. I keep saying to myself. Just have a conversation, you're here to help them. If they want it great, if not, !@#$$$! (ha ha)

      No. I'm going to see it as more ammo for my marketing message. Still learning.
      Relax and give it your worst. :<)
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    Originally Posted by Owen Lee View Post


    But at some point you'd realize, as I did, that marketing (online marketing or offline marketing) is fundamentally about selling. (It's just good selling gives you so much value up-front that it doesn't seem like selling.)
    I really, disagree with that entirely. Marketing and selling are two different things. I don't really enjoy selling, but I love marketing. There IS a big difference.
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    • Profile picture of the author ERPLeadsWriter
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      I really, disagree with that entirely. Marketing and selling are two different things. I don't really enjoy selling, but I love marketing. There IS a big difference.
      Not that I disagree but I find it annoying when some people criticize business as a whole purely on the grounds of "I don't want to be sold to." In the end, these types just keep on insisting that everything a business does (from marketing and even HR) is somehow a corporate sales scheme.
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    • Profile picture of the author Owen Lee
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      I really, disagree with that entirely. Marketing and selling are two different things. I don't really enjoy selling, but I love marketing. There IS a big difference.
      I didn't say "marketing IS selling". Part of the reason you love marketing is probably you enjoy the process of getting your offer in front of prospects. Where does that lead to? The customer paying in the end, I'd assume. And that's about selling.

      By selling I don't just mean the high-pressure "hey buy from me or you'll lose out" type of selling. The best selling provides enough value and trust so that the prospects want to take out their wallets.

      The ultimate goal of marketing is to [b]get the money[/] no matter how you rephrase it. The process in which you do that is selling.

      The reason I wanted to point out is that I've seen offline marketers keep on learning, building their sites, improving their products while delaying get themselves in front of prospects. If one fails at letting prospects see his/her offer, he/she pretty much fails at marketing.
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      • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
        Originally Posted by Owen Lee View Post

        I didn't say "marketing IS selling". Part of the reason you love marketing is probably you enjoy the process of getting your offer in front of prospects. Where does that lead to? The customer paying in the end, I'd assume. And that's about selling.

        By selling I don't just mean the high-pressure "hey buy from me or you'll lose out" type of selling. The best selling provides enough value and trust so that the prospects want to take out their wallets.

        The ultimate goal of marketing is to [b]get the money[/] no matter how you rephrase it. The process in which you do that is selling.

        The reason I wanted to point out is that I've seen offline marketers keep on learning, building their sites, improving their products while delaying get themselves in front of prospects. If one fails at letting prospects see his/her offer, he/she pretty much fails at marketing.
        Marketing is not about getting people to pay for what you're offering, it is about creating demand and fulfilling needs. Selling is about getting people to pay for whatever it is, it is about the exchange of money. You said marketing is fundamentally the same as selling, all I'm saying is that it isn't.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Guys; Marketing is everything you do before you talk to the buyer. Selling is talking to the buyer. Asking for money is selling, no matter what the media. The principles are exactly the same. Can we all hug now?

          I'm never afraid of selling because it's just a conversation.

          People don't dislike selling. They dislike what they think selling is.

          Pressuring, convincing, manipulating, being personally rejected...these are things sane people dislike.

          But answering questions about something you love doing, helping someone else solve their problems, giving educated advice...decent people want to do these things. That's selling.

          The reason we fear rejection is because we actually think we can get rejected. If you sold scuba diving equipment, and you were in the desert...would you feel rejected if someone didn't buy your scuba diving equipment? No. Why? Because it isn't a fit. You both know it isn't a fit.

          Selling isn't begging. Beggers get rejected. Salespeople find out that it isn't a fit. Do you think anyone that says "No" is rejecting you?

          They are not. They are simply not ready to accept your idea, or it doesn't fit with what they want. You and I simply don't matter to the client enough for the rejection to be personal.

          And after 30 years of selling, I can tell you this; I don't take the sales personally either. My offer just matched their reality. It isn't ME they accepted, it's my offer.

          If you are getting really excited about the sale, or personally upset at the idea of getting rejected, you simply misjudge the importance of the meeting.

          Think of all the appointments you went on in the past. What was the worst thing that happened? Nothing.

          Of course, I'm trying to appeal to the intellectual part of the brain here, and fear of rejection is centered in the "reptile" part of the brain.

          But I gave it a shot.
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    • Profile picture of the author Blase
      Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      I really, disagree with that entirely. Marketing and selling are two different things. I don't really enjoy selling, but I love marketing. There IS a big difference.
      Two very different things.

      I used to be a National Sales and Marketing Manager
      so both departments reported to me.

      The biggest challenge was getting the two departments to
      talk to each other. Some of the best copy for the marketing
      department can come from a top sales person.

      But all of the mechanics that happen first to get the salesperson in
      front of the prospect happen in the marketing department.

      If you can find a marketing person that understands sales
      you are golden.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Blase: I just bought your advertising book. Ta DA!
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        • Profile picture of the author Blase
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          Blase: I just bought your advertising book. Ta DA!

          I just saw the paypal notice and sent you and email.
          My wife is making me sell all of my stuff.

          I'm semi retired now so I don't need it anymore and
          I have to admit that over the last 40 years I have
          collected a lot of stuff.

          Thanks

          Now go sell something.
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      • Profile picture of the author Owen Lee
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        People don't dislike selling. They dislike what they think selling is.

        Pressuring, convincing, manipulating, being personally rejected...these are things sane people dislike.

        But answering questions about something you love doing, helping someone else solve their problems, giving educated advice...decent people want to do these things. That's selling.
        Exactly! Couldn't have said it better.


        Originally Posted by Blase View Post

        The biggest challenge was getting the two departments to
        talk to each other. Some of the best copy for the marketing
        department can come from a top sales person.
        With all due respect, I think you're talking from the perspective of a company/corporation. As an independent offline marketer, which I assume most on this forum are, the "marketing department" and "sales department" are really ourselves trying to present our offer to prospects and get the cash.
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    • Originally Posted by iAmNameLess View Post

      I really, disagree with that entirely. Marketing and selling are two different things. I don't really enjoy selling, but I love marketing. There IS a big difference.
      You are right but they are depended on each other. Without marketing, nobody will know about your product. Without selling, your marketing is in vain.
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveSki
    Every Offline Marketer should read "WOMBAT SELLING" because it will show you how to sell even if you really do hate selling. You can get a free PDF of the book from: http://www.schoolofthinking.org/who/...sell-coaching/
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Maybe hating the cold calling part of selling is the real issue that sellers of offline courses are trying to appeal to?
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