2 Types Of Business 0wners and Different Messages For Them

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I've been thinking about the 2 different types of business owners
and the need for a different approach for each one when selling high ticket services to them.

I'll categorize them and then I'd like to open up a discussion on them.

1 Mr Steady
2 Mr Entrepreneur

Mr Steady is conservative and isn't interested in big ideas or grand growth plans.
Just wants his business to stay steady. Buying triggers are streamline his business to make it easier and to stop losses to existing business. Majority of business owners.

Mr Entrepreneur wants growth, has big plans and is on the fast lane.
Buying triggers are ways to make those things happen and also is a slight edge buyer.
Slight edge buyer is one who will buy if he thinks the information will be the first to make a big impact and his competition is not using it. Minority of business owners

My thoughts, would love yours to create a profile and what will be their hot buttons.

Best,
Ewen
#0wners #business #messages #types
  • Profile picture of the author FeelingFree
    Hi Ewen,

    Not sure I'm fully on board with there being only two client types, but for purposes of your exercise ... in my experience here's how those two would most likely to be characterized:

    1. Mr Steady - no risk; tell me what I want to hear
    2. Mr Entrepreneur - guaranteed risk; tell me what I already know but tell me/show me how to actually do it/do it better
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  • Profile picture of the author Mwind076
    I'm with Feelingfree. I don't know if you were implying or stating that there are only 2 types, but it comes across like that. I have found many types of business owners in talking to them over the years.

    I think each owner, no matter what category they are in, needs to be handled on their own level. So, I'm not quite sure what you're asking for. Hot button issues vary from owner to owner and it's our jobs to listen to them (which includes listening to what they DON'T know), and leading them in the right way for their business.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      I will agree with Ewen that there tends to be two groups of owners. Of course they are all different.

      But the "steady" business owner is more concerned with;
      Stopping losses.
      Encroaching competition.
      Saving sales lost to online scumbags (their thinking)
      Continuity of their business.
      Looking like an established business to new customers.

      The Entrepreneur?

      He wants to dominate.
      Kill his competition online.
      Be the only listing that shows up.
      He wants to get rid of any listings his competitor has.

      I'm assuming you were talking about online marketing.

      When selling to business owners, they can broadly be put into those categories.

      Of course, we are all special little snowflakes that are unique in the universe.:rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    I know exactly what you mean.

    But then again, you can't always blame them for being that way. Some are extremely ignorant and will insist on doing things the same way no matter what. In those cases, you need to walk away.

    Others will think your FOS and say something like, "Expand my business?! I've been trying all my life! Its not as easy as you think!" I had one client who kept saying that to me over and over, month after month. Untill I decided to compete against him and start my own business in his niche. Now my business gets as many leads in 1 day as he gets in 1 week.

    Ironically, I saw him a couple weeks ago at a job (we use the same crew). He asked how I was generating all my leads, and I told him straight out what I was doing. Then he said something like "why didn't you do that when you worked for me?" And I told him I did, but I also told him that he always got in the way, so I could never do my job the way I was suppose to. Now he's been calling my brother to try and work out a deal with me, to get leads for his own biz. But his offer of 5% commissions was a joke. So I told him no way.

    I know he'll call again though, and if he gets to 10%, then I'll split some of my leads with him. Otherwise, he can keep burning money on service magic because thats all he knows how to do. =]

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  • Profile picture of the author Valdor Kiebach
    You forgot to metion 'Mr. knowall'

    He knows everything or knows somebody who knows everything so doesnt need your services as he can do it himself cheaper if he needs it.

    He is the one who gets the response from me 'Well thanks for your time anyway, goodbye'
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Valdor Kiebach View Post

      You forgot to metion 'Mr. knowall'

      He knows everything or knows somebody who knows everything so doesnt need your services as he can do it himself cheaper if he needs it.

      He is the one who gets the response from me 'Well thanks for your time anyway, goodbye'
      I actually like that guy. He makes it clear he isn't a prospect pretty early. Good. Now i can move on.

      I will say this though, they usually have fragile egos. So if I'm talking to them in person, they are easily sold. You just have to know how to dance with them.
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      • Profile picture of the author DarrenRM
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I actually like that guy. He makes it clear he isn't a prospect pretty early. Good. Now i can move on.

        I will say this though, they usually have fragile egos. So if I'm talking to them in person, they are easily sold. You just have to know how to dance with them.
        I'm working with someone like this at the moment and he argues over every penny and pound he spends even though I'm offering the lowest priced service in my niche and in my area. He says he wants growth yet he is not capable of deligating effectively. Everything I do for him has some sort of issue with him.

        In his own words he is a perfectionst. I told him he will be forever chasing his own tail with that approach. He smiled and said "I know" as he wrote and grudingly handed over a cheque he owed me.

        People like this do get in the way but I think if you can "break" them they'll finally let you get on with your job.

        Get this: He is extended his restaurant, and he was in the back yard with the builders carrying bricks and personally laying the foundations. I understand why - he wants to have a hand in the building of his "empire" on a meaningful level. But if he spent more on better builders in the first place and knew what he wanted, he would be available to answer the phone whenever I call instead of wasting my time.

        The advantage of being a small business is you can be flexible enough to deal with polar opposites while essentially selling the same service or product. I still prefer it when people trust me enough to let me be the expert and stop getting in the way.
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        • Profile picture of the author misterme
          Originally Posted by DarrenRM View Post

          In his own words he is a perfectionst.
          "Perfectionist" can be a mask for people who are control freaks or afraid of failure. I don't know if that helps you any in dealing with this guy. But a restaurant owner who gets himself down and dirty hauling bricks when he's got workers on the job, sounds to me like he likes to control things.
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          • Profile picture of the author Tjpiper
            The good news is that both types of business owners need something and can be sold to. The product/service just has to be pitched in a way that is appealing to them in their own way. Ask lots of questions, make sure they know you are there to help them, listen for cues they give that will let you know which type of business owner they are, then help them/sell to them accordingly!
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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by misterme View Post

            "Perfectionist" can be a mask for people who are control freaks or afraid of failure. I don't know if that helps you any in dealing with this guy. But a restaurant owner who gets himself down and dirty hauling bricks when he's got workers on the job, sounds to me like he likes to control things.
            I knew it. I read DarrenRM's post, and thought "I should mention that most "Perfectionists" are really just afraid of failure". But NO! You had to beat me to it. I get the next one. :rolleyes:

            OK, Darren, you really brought up a good point. Part of being an Entrepreneur is being in control. The guy helping move the bricks? I understand entirely.

            Not wanting to delegate? Again, I'm right there with him.

            Me? I would tell him that he is a true Entrepreneur, and that you understand his wanting to control his destiny. But..you're the expert in what you do...

            Most "Control freaks" identify with that, and will leave you alone.
            A few are actually mentally ill, and you'll find that out pretty quickly.
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            • Profile picture of the author SashaLee
              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


              Not wanting to delegate? Again, I'm right there with him.

              Amen to this. This is the hardest thing for any mover/shaker to do - let someone do something that ultimately affects the business's income.
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  • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
    You are right Ewen, these are two very broad categories and splitting people into them isn't so hard. But I might disagree with the way you defined them.

    I deal with both almost daily:

    1. Consumer product distribution - These folks are entrepreneurs in the truest sense. Risked it all to develop the next national brand. Their products are their babies. Helping them make the leap from manufacturing/personal sales to putting their product in thousands of stores is intimidating to them and takes some hand-holding. I wouldn't classify them as sharks at all - just really passionate and having invested it ALL to get the product going.

    2. Store front retailer - These guys are the other side of the coin from product developers. They want to know that the products coming in will sell. They want assurance. They want to know that whatever system I am giving them is reliable and will bring more customers.

    The common trait that I find is that all people crave certainty and variety. We all move between certainty and variety at different times.

    The thing for marketers is if you are approaching a new business, you are automatically satisfying the need for variety - if you can offer them certainty you will have no problem getting a contract.
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  • Profile picture of the author DarrenRM
    Yeah I'm not totally against him. His playing devil's advocate has forced me to keep improving what I have to offer but there comes a point where there should be some flexibility.

    He is more definitely a true entrepreneur. He has other business interests besides the one I mentioned so it's my interest to continue working with him.
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    • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
      Originally Posted by DarrenRM View Post

      Yeah I'm not totally against him. His playing devil's advocate has forced me to keep improving what I have to offer but there comes a point where there should be some flexibility.

      He is more definitely a true entrepreneur. He has other business interests besides the one I mentioned so it's my interest to continue working with him.
      As long as he pays appropriately. I had one like this with many business interests and he was okay at first. Then he wanted additional major services for the same monthly price:
      SEO/Web Redesign in addition to press releases/social media campaign for the same monthly. Had to let him go.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
    At least for me, I've found 'Mr Steady' to be quite satisfied with incremental improvement.
    He/she is almost afraid of anything that promises BIG GROWTH, and I think is prone
    not to believe it as well.

    Mr's Steady's often have a lot of money to spend, if you can free it up. Also may take a longer, more established relationship with them. In the last 10 years, my best client, in terms of total revenue generated to my business, was a "Super Steady".

    'Mr Entrepreneur', in my experience, will try more things and you don't need to lay as much of a relationship foundation with them. If you can 'dream the dream' alongside them, so to speak, they
    love it.

    This type will often value a sharp consultant, since they like having someone to bounce ideas off of .
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