12 replies
Called my internet provider to get my "promotional" price extended for another year.

The sales person asks me about my cell plan. I tell her that I pay $10/month and only use it for sales calls and emergencies and don't leave the house much so I use my dsl for daily internet. Actually, I may be upgrading shortly so I was interested in hear what they had to offer but didn't tell her that.

She proceeds to tell me about their Iphone 4 plan for $90/mo. w/unlimited everything bla bla bla. Of course you know what my answer was then she comes back with "but you can do so much more with this". I say "more than I can do with my laptop?" And again, "I only pay $10/mo."
"But it would be worth it" was her verbatim response. Genius!

Anyone that offers sales training might want to give this company a call.
#sell
  • Profile picture of the author dukestravels1972
    Oh boy I've had so many like this. My local Verizon is full of complete idiots with absolutely no customer service skills. The kind of people who really dont give a phuk that youve been with them 8 years and give them $300 a month. Back in Britain we call them jobsworths. The type of people who will never go out of their way to help you have a good experience if it means they get nothing out of it.

    Two weeks ago I was due for a smartphone upgrade. Went in with an online coupon code for a FREE rezound phone that also comes with a $100 pair of Beats Headphones. They hate the word free in store, he had to "check it out" came back and said "uh yes, i think this will be ok". He then asked "why exactly do you want THIS phone?". I explained I had researched it, it was a good phone and free...plus a great pair of headphones"...then he kept trying to upsell me on another phone for 5 more minutes, didnt update the software and charged me a $30 fee of which if you look up the details of, is nothing short of nickel and diming at its finest.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7666268].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
      What really amazes me about these companies is the lack of
      sales training in the customer service departments.

      Many complaints and problems stem from the fact that the
      caller needs to upgrade their service in some way.

      Even if they don't there are a pile of opportunities in those
      calls to upsell or offer other services.

      Many companies could dramatically increase their business
      by adding a pile of people into customer service who can
      sell.

      More customer service people and the department becomes
      a source of profits instead of a cost.

      You know if you became an affiliate for a phone selling course
      of some kind (like Ari Galper's) any time you get a cold call
      you could get excited about the opportunity to sell someone
      the course!

      Kindest regards,
      Andrew Cavanagh
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7666967].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        We just bought another big screen TV and decided to switch from Cable to Direct TV.

        I walked in to settle my bill and return their equipment. I asked the lady if she wanted to know why I was cancelling. She said "Not really, I'm sure you have your reasons".

        Could my business have been saved? Maybe not. But I was spending $120 a month for the last six or seven years. No attempt was made.

        At a mall I (with my wife) walked by a lady at a booth. She said "Register for a drawing?". I said "No thanks"...and she said "But it's free!".

        I had to stop (my wife hates it when I do). The drawing was for a free car. I said "May I help you get tons of entries?"
        "Sure, but nobody is interested"

        I said "Nobody is interested in taking the time to register for a drawing. But lots of people would like a free new car. Say "Want to win a new car?". See? You have to offer them something they want"

        As we were walking away, I could hear her say in nearly a whisper "Register for a drawing? It's free..."

        My only consolation is that in 30 or 40 years..these things won't bother me anymore.
        Signature
        One Call Closing book https://www.amazon.com/One-Call-Clos...=1527788418&sr

        What if they're not stars? What if they are holes poked in the top of a container so we can breath?
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7667071].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          My only consolation is that in 30 or 40 years..these things won't bother me anymore.
          I don't think I will ever reach that point. Hell nearly every shopping trip I take turns into me talking about what they need to fix to my girlfriend lol
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7667211].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author kellyyarnsbro
    I see the problem is actually at the company, even if not all their employees/support and sales reps does that it is still the companies job to check and monitor who does this and who does not.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7667205].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    I'm shopping for cable, phone and internet services for the hotel I manage.
    Currently we pay about $1000/mo for all three. The Century Link rep cold called me
    today and tried to rush on to his next call when I answered his question about when our contract expires. It expires in October. He said he would call back at a later date.

    The thing is, we are shopping now because our current provider has offered a lower price if we renew now for another three year term. Also, I've heard it wise to decide and notify our current provider well ahead of time so we don't get auto renewed.

    Dan

    PS - if anybody has input for me to make an informed decision for the hotel, I'd welcome a PM. Thanks.
    Signature

    "If you think you're the smartest person in the room, then you're probably in the wrong room."

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7667461].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
      Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

      I'm shopping for cable, phone and internet services for the hotel I manage.
      Currently we pay about $1000/mo for all three. The Century Link rep cold called me
      today and tried to rush on to his next call when I answered his question about when our contract expires. It expires in October. He said he would call back at a later date.

      The thing is, we are shopping now because our current provider has offered a lower price if we renew now for another three year term. Also, I've heard it wise to decide and notify our current provider well ahead of time so we don't get auto renewed.

      Dan

      PS - if anybody has input for me to make an informed decision for the hotel, I'd welcome a PM. Thanks.
      Wow that is classic. He could have made a sale but instead let it go and likely will never call back.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7669040].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author David Miller
        To call the people in these examples "sales people" is doing a disservice to the words themselves.

        Cell phone store employees, cable TV providers, kiosk hustlers and the like are nothing more than "order takers" on an hourly wage with no concern if anyone buys or not.

        I'm not saying that any of this is OK, but it is representative of the general lack of manners and customer service that seems to be pervasive these days.
        Signature
        The big lesson in life, baby, is never be scared of anyone or anything.
        -- FRANK SINATRA, quoted in The Way You Wear Your Hat
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7669152].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    She may have been new, and forgetting her rebuttals. Im sure her supervisor would comment if he caught that.

    Sometimes they start getting loose after awhile and need tightened back up. she may also have been writing notes to her friends while talking, not even really pitching you and only half paying attention to go through the motions and get you off the phone... so she could get back to talking to her friend or whatever.

    After so many calls, you can get to where its so non personal that its almost like there isnt even a human on the other end half the time,and it doesnt matter what you say..., especially when you are tired, distracted, and just milking the clock, going through the motions because maybe break time is in five minutes and you are really more interested in talking to your friend..., or passing notes about having them meet you somewhere for lunch, at the time when a call comes in.

    There are usually a percentage of clock milkers that dont even work all day properly, they just stay under the radar as much as possible and talk more to their friends than they do the customers. A call from a customer is an interruption of their conversation, and they disposition two or three calls in a row, without responding, before answering one...., all kinds of stuff. If they get busted they are just told "Quit redialing the leads", and they straighten up for a few calls.

    Sometimes telemarketers get lazy and it doesnt matter to them, they arent even really talking to you, just going through the motions.

    When you take 700 calls per day, it gets like that...on about ten to twenty percent of them you may not even be present on some days.

    Its sad, but its true, no matter what your job is, there are certain times of day or week when your mind is far away, even though your reflex is still taking a call, or absentmindedly doing the job, whatever it is.

    I use to sit in a booth and talk while thinking about my own business half the day, drawing logo's for "quantum leap concepts", and I was just in la la land half the time, not even really present with the customer, and just talking out of subconscious reflex; howbeit , better than this girl did... still closing sales. But it was like a selfish lover sometimes, it didnt even register that the other person was THERE.

    In was on the ball more often than not, but it even happened to myself sometimes.

    100's of calls per day will do that to you.

    Im sure her training didnt teach her to do that. Telemarketers in call centers get tighter training than most anywhere else, on a daily basis, and constant reminders... Doubtful that she wasnt trained on a proper rebuttal. she just didnt use it.

    In another sense, some people would do WELL, to make so many calls per day that it becomes that non personal... Then they wouldnt be so worried about 'self" and they would rack up a score...you still hit quota (or else you would be fired) , you just arent always optimal, but being able to disassociate to that degree takes alot of calling, and even at your worse you could still out perform most homeworkers just based on reflex and number of dials alone... when you dont hang your whole world on any given call, and you think you have time to spare.... in a sense thats a good thing.

    Of course I believe you were calling IN for customer service, a highly valuable lead ..., so that would be firing material if I caught her more than twice doing that and she wasnt a trainee, or at least I would clock her out for the day and only let her come back when she could tell me she appreciated her job and our customers, or I might put her on some kind of probation till she sharpened up.

    -John
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7667514].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author ERPLeadsWriter
    If you ask me, I don't think it's just a selling problem. I think your correspondent dug herself into a hole the moment she did not consider what her offer was contending with (such as your laptop). It's hard to expect success when you don't seem to notice your competition.

    I guess it just goes to show that there are still bad sellers out there who don't consider the buyer's perspective on their own needs.
    Signature
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7667652].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    What David said. If your phone service went down and you called one of those people to complain, they'd tell you, "hey, I just work here." There is no higher purpose for them than to punch the clock, put in their time, and get a regular paycheck at the end of the week.

    Besides, let them do a terrible job at saving accounts and hawking contests. Makes people like us look even smarter than we are.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7669326].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      What Misterme said about what David said. :rolleyes:

      We need these people. Someone has to buy the bulk of the services sold.
      I sometimes tell a friend that these clerks "are loving decent people that will never be a threat to me".

      I don't mind too much that these people wait on me, but what scares me is that the may act like this around their boss, and he might not care. That scares me....

      ...that and evil kittens.
      Signature
      One Call Closing book https://www.amazon.com/One-Call-Clos...=1527788418&sr

      What if they're not stars? What if they are holes poked in the top of a container so we can breath?
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7670781].message }}

Trending Topics