Help with restaurants client

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I have a restaurants that has contacted me. They have been trading for over 2 years (based in UK) but have never get a busy as they would like, they have great reviews on trip advisor and cant understand why they are not getting many customers.

I will be recommending something that will keep their previous customers coming back like SMS marketing or loyalty cards, also something to attract new ones maybe Google local, and maybe some social media integration.

I just wanted to know if you were in my situation what you would do? it's not that I don't know, I just want to get an opinion from other warriors so I can deliver the best service to my client.

Thanks in advance.
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  • Profile picture of the author TonyD
    Start by finding out everything you can about the way they run the restaurant and how their staff interact with their customers. If they have no one recommending them now you have to get to the root of the problem. Although they have great reviews on TA doesn't mean they are going to get customers from it.

    Before committing to help them make sure they are a restaurant that serves great food and takes care of their existing customers, if they can't get this right then there's nothing you can do that will change it for them.

    Start with a great sms vip loyalty program for their current customers and also make sure that it encourages their existing customers to share the vip with their friends after joining. Get a contract to manage their social places for at least 90 days so you can tie it in with the vip or train them how to do it effectively.

    Plus the usual flyers and newspaper ad publicising the vip club.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eddie Spangler
    One important thing to realize before trying to push social related promo like sms, facebook and such is if the biz owners are willing to be active participants.
    What good are these "things" if owners wont aggressively seek signups or wont actively engage with the facebook fans.

    Most small biz owners arent used to that concept, they are used to writing a check for yellow pages, tv ads, newspaper, ragazines etc and just sitting back and thinking that business is just going to pour in.

    You have to know they have an open mindset and are going to go all out to do their part, it may require active training on your end in addition to the introduction of the new technology, so dont short sell your efforts.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimGreen1
      Originally Posted by TonyD View Post

      Start by finding out everything you can about the way they run the restaurant and how their staff interact with their customers. If they have no one recommending them now you have to get to the root of the problem. Although they have great reviews on TA doesn't mean they are going to get customers from it.

      Before committing to help them make sure they are a restaurant that serves great food and takes care of their existing customers, if they can't get this right then there's nothing you can do that will change it for them.

      Start with a great sms vip loyalty program for their current customers and also make sure that it encourages their existing customers to share the vip with their friends after joining. Get a contract to manage their social places for at least 90 days so you can tie it in with the vip or train them how to do it effectively.

      Plus the usual flyers and newspaper ad publicising the vip club.
      Hi Tony,

      Cheers for the tips, really useful. I was thinking maybe suggesting putting up posted in the restaurant to encourage Facebook likes and people checking in, any ideas?


      Originally Posted by Eddie Spangler View Post

      One important thing to realize before trying to push social related promo like sms, facebook and such is if the biz owners are willing to be active participants.
      What good are these "things" if owners wont aggressively seek signups or wont actively engage with the facebook fans.

      Most small biz owners arent used to that concept, they are used to writing a check for yellow pages, tv ads, newspaper, ragazines etc and just sitting back and thinking that business is just going to pour in.

      You have to know they have an open mindset and are going to go all out to do their part, it may require active training on your end in addition to the introduction of the new technology, so dont short sell your efforts.
      Hi Eddie,

      Again, thanks for the tips, before I jump in I'll definitely make sure all is in order and they are willing to commit.
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      • Profile picture of the author TonyD
        Yes Tim, posters on the windows, on the walls, at the checkout... table tents, the more chances you give customers to opt in and engage with your clients restaurant the better. If its a classy joint don't overdo it with the promo, try and keep it subtle. If your client is against the use of social media and/or sms and they are not open to it then let them carry on doing what they've always done so they can continue to get the same results...

        Originally Posted by TimGreen1 View Post

        Hi Tony,

        Cheers for the tips, really useful. I was thinking maybe suggesting putting up posted in the restaurant to encourage Facebook likes and people checking in, any ideas?
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  • Profile picture of the author hayfj2
    DO NOT prescribe any ideas or recommendations....

    ..they'll either take your ideas and go to a competitors who'll do it cheaper than you.

    or whatever you say, they'll try and chip u down in price.

    So, DO A MARKETING AUDIT first, to find out why their marketing isnt working.

    Think, if you were in the medical fraternity and simply prescribed recommendations WITHOUT ANY DIAGNOSTICS, you'd either be STRUCK off or worse......SUED.

    Charge them to help them find out WHY its not working.

    Then charge them to put a WRITTEN plan of action together WHAT needs to be done.

    Then charge them to IMPLEMENT the plan of action.

    (most people end up sending out proposals detailing the plan instead of getting paid to write it from the OUTPUTS of the audit - which the client will give you )

    Hope that makes sense



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  • Profile picture of the author helisell
    TonyD....you hit the nail firmly on the head.

    Before you drive traffic....check the sales page.
    Translates as......
    Before you send diners.....check the food and service.

    If the food is not tip top you are flogging a dead horse (I hope they're not ;0)

    Why not charge them to do a mystery shop first?
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    • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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      Hey Tim....ya wanna git RESTAURANTS IN ANY PLACE IN THE WORLD (I'm talkin' ANY place where there's 1 Restaurant and 1 Hotel/Motel)...
      To:

      #1 - get ALL the diners they can handle
      #2 - pay YOU, at least $185/mo (when you show them HOW little ol' YOU..... CAN....FILL THEIR SEATS....EVERY DAY)

      OK.....what you are about to experience is, a "FREEBIE" from a person who has been an "Entroopeneer" for ALL his 30 years career.... ME!

      I've been able to come up with UNIQUE programs and ways for bizness owners, professionals and Medicos,,,to "Make More Money"....and....I've been able to go out and,,,

      1- Show how I....can HELP them get MORECustomers/Clients/Patients
      2- Get them to PAY ME

      It's ALL because of TWO words;
      1) PROOF
      and
      2) TRUST

      When I show a prospect PROOF of what I'm doing....how, little ol' ME can help his biz be MORE profitable because of joining MY program AND....I show evidence of OTHERS who have made the commitment and are ALREADY IN.......TRUST enters in and....2 things go thru my prospects mind;

      1) "Hey! I'm interested in getting MORE Customers/Clients/Patients
      and...
      2) Well, looks like others have already joined in THIS program SO....if others are IN....I should take a Serious Look at THIS...and probably Join!"

      NOW....back to your Specific Question about How is little ol' you, going to help this restaurant get more biz?

      Well......when a restaurant owner asked me to "help him get more diners"; It caused me to THINK....about WHO would want to "Eat at His Restaurant"! (I like to put myself into the Body of Target Prospects)

      Well....
      1) there are local residents who like to eat out and....
      2) there are visitors and travelers....who are coming into town, every day....registering for a room in a Local Hotel/Motel. These people are HUNGRY and....they have a Mobile Phone

      They go to the Front Desk....ask the clerk what the Rates are.....clerk gives them rates.....the Visitor/Traveler ponders whether they should stay here or go somewhere else.....decide to "Check-In" and....ask the clerk...."WHERE'S A GOOD PLACE TO EAT!"

      Now....the Front Desk Clerk usually says something like; "Well....there's a BBQ place over here....a Steak Joint over there....a Chinese Buffet over here...etc.

      However....what if the Front Desk Clerk...at this moment.... points to a 8 1/2 by 11 hi display sitting on the "Check-In Desk" next to her.....were to respond with; "You can use your Mobile Device to "Access Our Local Restaurant Directory!...to find "Places To Eat OR have Food Delivered to your Room!"

      Do YOU think this would get the Attention of "HUNGRY" Tourists/Travelers checking in?

      So....because...."THE TOURISTS ARE COMING! THE TOURISTS ARE COMING!" Take a Serious look at
      1) How many Hotel/Motels are in your town
      2) How many Restaurants would like to "Present THEIR restaurant TO these HUNGRY Travelers/Tourists by participating in a program that can expose their Restaurant to them?

      So....your "Homework" (in the middle of Feb, 2013) is to; Think about putting together a program that will get 20 or more local restaurants to pay YOU....$3,700 a month ($185 a month ea)

      So...Tim Green 1....I'd be willing to email you;
      1) A Link to one of my "Town Restaurant Directories" I set up
      and
      2) A jpeg (photo) of the Front Desk Display I use to get Tourists/Travelers to SCAN

      Send an email to my email addy (donalm@charter.net) with the Subject; "HEY DON"

      Don Alm
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      • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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        I forgot to mention that my Hotel/Motel "Front Desk Displays" have prominent "QR CODES" (one of those funny-looking sguares)...and the Display says;

        "LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO EAT? SCAN HERE to access our "Local Restaurant Directory"! (I also include the URL address so those without smartphones can Type In the URL to have the Directory come up on their phones)

        Yessir....THIS YEAR is gonna be a BIGGIE for combining "Mobile with Tourists"!

        Don Alm....on the Interstate Corridor awaiting the arrival of Tourists/Travelers
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      • This should be a WSO! Great strategy! I know it works because everytime I'm staying at a hotel in area I don't know, I always ask the front desk. And sometimes they'll have a simple print out of local Restyaurants in the area. And sure enough we visit those listed. So this does work!

        But what does the Hotel get out of this? Would you have to pay them?
        Would a big chain hotel go for this? Or would you target smaller
        hotels and motels? I'm just wondering how you approach the hotel.
        Do you tell the restaurants about the hotel? What's to stop them from just
        contacting the hotel directly and setting this up without you?

        Originally Posted by midasman09 View Post

        Hey Tim....ya wanna git RESTAURANTS IN ANY PLACE IN THE WORLD (I'm talkin' ANY place where there's 1 Restaurant and 1 Hotel/Motel)...
        To:

        #1 - get ALL the diners they can handle
        #2 - pay YOU, at least $185/mo (when you show them HOW little ol' YOU..... CAN....FILL THEIR SEATS....EVERY DAY)

        OK.....what you are about to experience is, a "FREEBIE" from a person who has been an "Entroopeneer" for ALL his 30 years career.... ME!

        I've been able to come up with UNIQUE programs and ways for bizness owners, professionals and Medicos,,,to "Make More Money"....and....I've been able to go out and,,,

        1- Show how I....can HELP them get MORECustomers/Clients/Patients
        2- Get them to PAY ME

        It's ALL because of TWO words;
        1) PROOF
        and
        2) TRUST

        When I show a prospect PROOF of what I'm doing....how, little ol' ME can help his biz be MORE profitable because of joining MY program AND....I show evidence of OTHERS who have made the commitment and are ALREADY IN.......TRUST enters in and....2 things go thru my prospects mind;

        1) "Hey! I'm interested in getting MORE Customers/Clients/Patients
        and...
        2) Well, looks like others have already joined in THIS program SO....if others are IN....I should take a Serious Look at THIS...and probably Join!"

        NOW....back to your Specific Question about How is little ol' you, going to help this restaurant get more biz?

        Well......when a restaurant owner asked me to "help him get more diners"; It caused me to THINK....about WHO would want to "Eat at His Restaurant"! (I like to put myself into the Body of Target Prospects)

        Well....
        1) there are local residents who like to eat out and....
        2) there are visitors and travelers....who are coming into town, every day....registering for a room in a Local Hotel/Motel. These people are HUNGRY and....they have a Mobile Phone

        They go to the Front Desk....ask the clerk what the Rates are.....clerk gives them rates.....the Visitor/Traveler ponders whether they should stay here or go somewhere else.....decide to "Check-In" and....ask the clerk...."WHERE'S A GOOD PLACE TO EAT!"

        Now....the Front Desk Clerk usually says something like; "Well....there's a BBQ place over here....a Steak Joint over there....a Chinese Buffet over here...etc.

        However....what if the Front Desk Clerk...at this moment.... points to a 8 1/2 by 11 hi display sitting on the "Check-In Desk" next to her.....were to respond with; "You can use your Mobile Device to "Access Our Local Restaurant Directory!...to find "Places To Eat OR have Food Delivered to your Room!"

        Do YOU think this would get the Attention of "HUNGRY" Tourists/Travelers checking in?

        So....because...."THE TOURISTS ARE COMING! THE TOURISTS ARE COMING!" Take a Serious look at
        1) How many Hotel/Motels are in your town
        2) How many Restaurants would like to "Present THEIR restaurant TO these HUNGRY Travelers/Tourists by participating in a program that can expose their Restaurant to them?

        So....your "Homework" (in the middle of Feb, 2013) is to; Think about putting together a program that will get 20 or more local restaurants to pay YOU....$3,700 a month ($185 a month ea)

        So...Tim Green 1....I'd be willing to email you;
        1) A Link to one of my "Town Restaurant Directories" I set up
        and
        2) A jpeg (photo) of the Front Desk Display I use to get Tourists/Travelers to SCAN

        Send an email to my email addy (donalm@charter.net) with the Subject; "HEY DON"

        Don Alm
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        • Profile picture of the author ginnysclub1
          Originally Posted by InternetMarketingSmarts View Post

          This should be a WSO! Great strategy! I know it works because everytime I'm staying at a hotel in area I don't know, I always ask the front desk. And sometimes they'll have a simple print out of local Restyaurants in the area. And sure enough we visit those listed. So this does work!

          But what does the Hotel get out of this? Would you have to pay them?
          Would a big chain hotel go for this? Or would you target smaller
          hotels and motels? I'm just wondering how you approach the hotel.
          Do you tell the restaurants about the hotel? What's to stop them from just
          contacting the hotel directly and setting this up without you?
          I agree this is fantastic strategy and I would also like to know the answers to those questions
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  • Profile picture of the author markpocock
    Obviously the food has to be good.
    Put a glass jar in the restaurant and collect email addresses of the diners.

    Offer a bribe to diners to get their email - Lucky draw free meal.

    Then target affluent people in your local town with direct mail.
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  • Profile picture of the author NewParadigm
    start a birthday club where the customer would get a free drink/app/entree/dessert, whatever restaurant wants to offer. Birthday people bring other people. A good way to get people to opt in for a list.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
    Here are some ideas you might find helpful:

    # Offer a free meal for your birthday to diners.

    They just need to join the email list so you can send them the
    gift by email when their birthday comes around.

    You can use QR codes so diners and even people passing
    by the restaurant can use their mobile phones to subscribe.

    People don't eat alone on their birthdays so this can be a
    profitable strategy.

    It also gets diners on an email list so you can make other
    offers to them (free coffee, free dessert with a meal etc).


    # The return on any promotion is going to depend heavily
    on how well the staff are trained in add on sales.

    The money in a restaurant is really in how many extra sales
    are made in bread, entrees, drinks, coffee, dessert.

    Also in the staff's ability to successfully recommend meals
    that have a high net profit.

    A pasta that sells for $20 might make 3 times the net profit
    of a steak meal for example.

    Staff who are trained to say something positive about the
    special meal of the day "the pasta today is fabulous with
    a special source that Chef Robert makes perfectly..." etc
    etc.

    Same with entrees, breads etc.

    Smart restaurants are promoting lines that make them high
    net profits and they make sure they deliver premium quality
    delicious food with this high profit lines.


    # Reviews, reviews reviews.

    There are multiple ways of getting positive reviews for a restaurant
    but one of the smartest is to have some kind of incentive you can
    offer for people who make a review and a QR code right there on
    the incentive so people can get on their mobile while they're in the
    restaurant and make a review on the spot (you can give a free
    drink, coffee, a return voucher with a free gift etc etc).

    The real secret is for the staff to identify happy diners and offer
    them the incentive...remember you want mainly positive reviews.

    If it's an incentive they have to come back for and you put a
    date of use on the incentive that is a little shorter time span
    than that diner would normally return to eat then you can
    also increase the frequency your happy diners eat with you.

    In other words if someone comes in every money and you give
    them a voucher they have to use in 2 weeks before it expires
    then potentially you're doubling the number of times they eat
    with you.

    That can amount to substantial increase in business.


    # Use your reviews as content in multiple ways.

    Positive reviews are often keyword rich. Diners talk about
    the specific meals they ate and you can create a page for
    each diner on your website with the review.

    On that page you can also have a call to action (an offer
    or call to book etc).

    So someone searching in your town for Chicken Parmegana
    will find a positive review from someone who ate in your
    restaurant and under that a note saying book early to
    ensure your seat on xxxx.

    When you have dozens of positive reviews on dozens of pages
    on a website that's going to bring in some serious business.


    # You can also do video reviews, put them on youtube and
    embed them on pages on your website.

    It's so easy now to use a mobile phone or have a camera
    in the restaurant where you can get diners to say what
    they loved about their food and the restaurant.

    You can also take a photo of happy diners and put that
    with their positive review on your website.

    That gives them a reason to go to your site too...to
    download their photo.

    And it gives you an excuse to get their contact details
    which leads to...


    # Learn to say thank you.

    You can send a thank you email to every diner your staff
    likes.

    Staff can write these emails at the end of the shift (make
    it fun and pay them for the extra 30 minutes and they'll
    be happy enough to do it).

    The psychological effect of thinking about specific nice things
    to say about diners every night is VERY powerful.

    Also when was the last time you got an email from a restaurant
    thanking you for dining there and saying something nice about
    you?

    I'm still waiting...lol.

    Are you going to eat anywhere else next time?

    Are you going to tell your friends about a restaurant like that?



    This is just scratching the surface...there are so many things
    you could do.

    One huge key is having incentive for the staff to promote high
    net profit lines, get reviews and write thank you emails.

    And starting with good staff to begin with.

    Kindest regards,
    Andrew Cavanagh
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