Putting businesses on Youtube videos?

by zardon
34 replies
Hello there

Some time ago I remember a user in the Offline marketing who either sold Youtube videos to businesses.

If I remember, the person got a high uptake, used a low-cost HD camera and went to a person's restaurant, filmed and got it uploaded that day; I also remember the person taking interview-style clips of people/businesses.

I see other companies charging a lot of money for video production when we have the ability to do it for way less, get some money rolling in and start moving.

I think I can run with this idea but I have some questions about it

1) Amateur quality? Is it an issue?

The hardware isn't an issue, today's low cost cameras shoot in HD, have steady settings and I can pick up a camera today that will help me put stuff on Youtube.

But I am a bit worried a client may see it as a bit amateur. Was it ever an issue and how did you resolve this?

2) Video editing and post-production

I can use basic video editing software like iMovie, etc; but how much post-production was needed?

3) Combining Youtube with Google+/Google Places setup as an up-sell.

I'm interested in this idea but not quite sure how to structure it.

I know Google places/local has changed a lot now, pretty much it's Google+ now; but I'm wondering if someone can recommend a good WSO that covers Youtube for business, and selling Google+/local/places to business?

Thanks for now
#businesses #putting #videos #youtube
  • Profile picture of the author Marty S
    I think the best way to go about this is to offer a more "social" package, and not focus too much on the equipment used.

    You really don't need much more than an iPhone, a screencast recorder/editor such as Screenflow (Mac) or Camtasia (and many other movie editors will do as well) and a presentation program like Keynote (Mac) or PowerPoint, or Google Docs.

    The real value of what you will be doing for your clients lies in the social exposure that their Youtube channel, Google+, Facebook and Twitter streams will benefit as a result of your video marketing. If you just "sell" a video for small business, it will likely share the destiny of the majority of Youtube uploads. Very few views, virtually no sharing, and little to no impact for the business.

    Sell them on a plan of regular uploads targeting specific products and services with keywords in mind. Combine this with a program that gets them involved everyday in social media, building a following.

    You can start with a generic intro video such as the one below. I know I've posted this before, but it does show how using the mentioned software can help you create professional videos. Then start making videos about specific products, services, specials, events, even about the people and customers involved in the business.


    I guess what I am saying is that it's not a video you sell, but a long term marketing program that will get you and your clients much more success.



    .
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7865543].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author SteveSki
      Originally Posted by Marty S View Post


      The real value of what you will be doing for your clients lies in the social exposure that their Youtube channel, Google+, Facebook and Twitter streams will benefit as a result of your video marketing. If you just "sell" a video for small business, it will likely share the destiny of the majority of Youtube uploads. Very few views, virtually no sharing, and little to no impact for the business.

      Sell them on a plan of regular uploads targeting specific products and services with keywords in mind. Combine this with a program that gets them involved everyday in social media, building a following.

      You can start with a generic intro video such as the one below. I know I've posted this before, but it does show how using the mentioned software can help you create professional videos. Then start making videos about specific products, services, specials, events, even about the people and customers involved in the business.

      I guess what I am saying is that it's not a video you sell, but a long term marketing program that will get you and your clients much more success.
      .
      You could even start out just by offering to interview customers and put video testimonials up on their website and facebook pages... A Kodak iZ8 with a $20 mic clipped to their shirt will work very well.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7869589].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author maricelu
      What software id you used to make that video? It looks nice!
      Originally Posted by Marty S View Post

      I think the best way to go about this is to offer a more "social" package, and not focus too much on the equipment used.

      You really don't need much more than an iPhone, a screencast recorder/editor such as Screenflow (Mac) or Camtasia (and many other movie editors will do as well) and a presentation program like Keynote (Mac) or PowerPoint, or Google Docs.

      The real value of what you will be doing for your clients lies in the social exposure that their Youtube channel, Google+, Facebook and Twitter streams will benefit as a result of your video marketing. If you just "sell" a video for small business, it will likely share the destiny of the majority of Youtube uploads. Very few views, virtually no sharing, and little to no impact for the business.

      Sell them on a plan of regular uploads targeting specific products and services with keywords in mind. Combine this with a program that gets them involved everyday in social media, building a following.

      You can start with a generic intro video such as the one below. I know I've posted this before, but it does show how using the mentioned software can help you create professional videos. Then start making videos about specific products, services, specials, events, even about the people and customers involved in the business.

      Primo Pizza and Kabob - YouTube

      I guess what I am saying is that it's not a video you sell, but a long term marketing program that will get you and your clients much more success.



      .
      Signature

      I have no signature.

      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7870742].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    I love youtube. I have a bunch of videos/channels for my own business, than a few others that I do for friends who pay me.

    Focus on results and nothing but results. An HD camera is highly recommended, but don't go insane trying to mimic any of the "big boys" so to speak.

    I would rent them the channels + ranking. Charge an upfront fee to do the video work, but the majority of your income should come from renting channels full of videos that you rank. If you make the main goal traffic, than you will have long term customers with every new sale you make. Figure out what their CPC is, determine the overall traffic, then charge them accordingly.

    Its not the way I do it, but its the simplest to explain.

    I never go after big keywords though. I use a type of "arbitrage" technique where I get out tons of somewhat duplicated videos, for dozens of different long tail keywords. They rank fast, and when you have enough of them, the overall traffic is impressive.

    These types of videos are also guaranteed to outrank google places in the top 3 organically. You can rank state videos, county, township and town (townships being a division of counties & larger than most towns).

    Although I usually focus on the last 3 as they are much easier to rank.

    What I do is collect a bunch of videos/images/testimonies/social proof + a short well written pitch that I script and outsource myself (using a radio voice over guy on fiver).

    Then sit down in power director and remix the main content every 5-10 videos or so. For every invidual video, I make them unique by shortening/extending the intro/outro by a second or 2. Try not to make the videos longer than 2 mins. I usually aim between 1-2 minutes. 3 minutes takes far too long to render if you're doing dozens of them at a time.

    My goal is saturation and traffic, not making 1 amazing video that sits around and is never ranked. I'd rather spin 100 medium quality videos, and get them all ranking above google places which = traffic.

    Then I change the thumbnails as much as possible, so each video looks that much more unique. The goal is to just get them in the top 3, as many as possible. I will intentionally give certain videos a less appealing thumbnail, so when users click in and see all our videos in the sidebar, they don't all look the same.

    What I do is basically take batches of videos 20-30 at a time and backlink them. Then I estimate which videos would be best to promote (usually county and township videos) and promote them with fiver. The towns videos usually begin to rank on their own just because the channel is getting so much traffic and attention.

    You can also use wikipedia, which will list the most populated towns up top, and target a few select towns that are really big. Like certain towns in my area have 60,000 or so people, than other towns just 5,000. So obviously you may want to promote the towns with 60,000 people, and ignore the ones under 40,000 or so. Those usually rank w/out any promotion at all.

    There is a bit more to it, but this is just how I prefer to do things.

    -Red
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7867103].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author mraffiliate
      1. what version of power director do you use?

      2. Have you ever used Corel VideoStudio X6 or other versions?

      3. What if you rent out a YouTube channel to a local business, say John Jones Mexican Restaurant and after you rank several videos for him, he decides not to use your services anymore. Is there a way to edit those already ranked videos and change the business name and keep those videos ranked or do you have to remake them and re-rank them?


      Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

      I love youtube. I have a bunch of videos/channels for my own business, than a few others that I do for friends who pay me.

      Focus on results and nothing but results. An HD camera is highly recommended, but don't go insane trying to mimic any of the "big boys" so to speak.

      I would rent them the channels + ranking. Charge an upfront fee to do the video work, but the majority of your income should come from renting channels full of videos that you rank. If you make the main goal traffic, than you will have long term customers with every new sale you make. Figure out what their CPC is, determine the overall traffic, then charge them accordingly.

      Its not the way I do it, but its the simplest to explain.

      I never go after big keywords though. I use a type of "arbitrage" technique where I get out tons of somewhat duplicated videos, for dozens of different long tail keywords. They rank fast, and when you have enough of them, the overall traffic is impressive.

      These types of videos are also guaranteed to outrank google places in the top 3 organically. You can rank state videos, county, township and town (townships being a division of counties & larger than most towns).

      Although I usually focus on the last 3 as they are much easier to rank.

      What I do is collect a bunch of videos/images/testimonies/social proof + a short well written pitch that I script and outsource myself (using a radio voice over guy on fiver).

      Then sit down in power director and remix the main content every 5-10 videos or so. For every invidual video, I make them unique by shortening/extending the intro/outro by a second or 2. Try not to make the videos longer than 2 mins. I usually aim between 1-2 minutes. 3 minutes takes far too long to render if you're doing dozens of them at a time.

      My goal is saturation and traffic, not making 1 amazing video that sits around and is never ranked. I'd rather spin 100 medium quality videos, and get them all ranking above google places which = traffic.

      Then I change the thumbnails as much as possible, so each video looks that much more unique. The goal is to just get them in the top 3, as many as possible. I will intentionally give certain videos a less appealing thumbnail, so when users click in and see all our videos in the sidebar, they don't all look the same.

      What I do is basically take batches of videos 20-30 at a time and backlink them. Then I estimate which videos would be best to promote (usually county and township videos) and promote them with fiver. The towns videos usually begin to rank on their own just because the channel is getting so much traffic and attention.

      You can also use wikipedia, which will list the most populated towns up top, and target a few select towns that are really big. Like certain towns in my area have 60,000 or so people, than other towns just 5,000. So obviously you may want to promote the towns with 60,000 people, and ignore the ones under 40,000 or so. Those usually rank w/out any promotion at all.

      There is a bit more to it, but this is just how I prefer to do things.

      -Red
      Signature

      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7869347].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
        Originally Posted by mraffiliate View Post

        1. what version of power director do you use?
        An older version, #9.

        Originally Posted by mraffiliate View Post

        2. Have you ever used Corel VideoStudio X6 or other versions?
        Never. The only other video software I've used is Adobe After Effects. But never for business, as its way too complicated for me.

        Originally Posted by mraffiliate View Post

        3. What if you rent out a YouTube channel to a local business, say John Jones Mexican Restaurant and after you rank several videos for him, he decides not to use your services anymore. Is there a way to edit those already ranked videos and change the business name and keep those videos ranked or do you have to remake them and re-rank them?
        Good question. I only do this with business friends and so far that hasn't happened.

        But if it was me, I would start by picking a niche with high profit margins.
        So instead of going for restaraunts, I would go with 1 of the dozens of different home improvement niches:

        roofing
        kitchens
        bathrooms
        basements
        flooring
        sheetrock
        masonry
        restoration
        fire
        flood
        mold
        additions
        porches
        decks
        insulation
        energy efficiency
        weatherproofing
        solar
        etc
        etc

        Anything that can be flipped for between a couple grand, to $50,000+

        Thats what will make this system work really well imo.

        TBPO, there are so many ways to set something like this started. For instance, the guy I send waterproofing leads to, I don't rent the channels out to him. I use a system that would be very confusing to explain.

        The leads go straight to my brother who's a licensed contractor. He goes out with the companies salesman on the lead, sometimes he sells the job all by himself. It depends on the location really. Then we split the commission 3 ways.

        I do this because I can, and its a lot more profitable for us.

        Then I have another channel where my brother only screens the calls, sends them to a friend, and he sells all the work, then cuts us both a commission. He never goes out on those leads.

        The last channel I rent out for $440/month. This is in an industry that neither of us know a thing about. However, I'm currently getting certified in this industry, so I can sell the jobs myself.

        As far as people not wanting to pay, it may be smart to make your own website, and use that for branding purposes. Then redirect all the leads to a business of your choice.

        The thing I'm realizing as I get older. I don't really care whether I'm selling marketing to business owners, or services to homeowners. And since selling services to homeowners is a lot more profitable (for me personally), eventually, that is all I will do.

        -Red
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7869515].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author SirThomas
          Originally Posted by RedShifted View Post

          As far as people not wanting to pay, it may be smart to make your own website, and use that for branding purposes. Then redirect all the leads to a business of your choice.
          On your videos, do you display a contractor's phone number, yours or none?
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7871472].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author kellyyarnsbro
    Video quality would surely matter, nobody wants to see or watch ads or videos that are of poor quality i bet, how about you? which would you prefer watching?
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7868650].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author zenxseo
    Google+, youtube, Facebook, twitter you can offer complete social media marketing pack,
    but most imp thing is Quality ,
    if you will get 2 good clients and provide them good product and result you will get lot more ,
    search at wso you will find lot of wso about how to rank video and lot more
    Good luck
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7868904].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author zardon
    Lots of good responses, I'm very happy as I wasn't sure if I asked it correctly.

    @Marty S -- I never thought of doing it that way! more "social" package is something I will probably go with and investigate.

    I just remember someone on WarriorForum, I can't remember who it was, that went physically into people's businesses, filmed them and whatever product they had, asked them simple questions like who they were, etc and then put it on Youtube for a nominal fee; I believe he also upsold them Google+/places too.

    But I think selling it as more "social" package sounds very interesting and deserves investigating.

    @RedShifted -- Very good, I never thought about the research. The initial idea came from like business startup events when I started hearing people's ideas for various businesses and my head was suddenly in WF mode thinking of all the offline marketing things one could sell, the top being Youtube/Google+, stuff like that.

    @zenxseo - Agree, quality does matter. But I do not want to spend tons of money on hardware, things like audio booms, lighting, post production.

    I am going to a free video/movie meetup this weekend because I've also had the idea of doing/starting my own Youtube channel and am hoping to find someone there with more expertise on the hardware side of things.

    @SteveSki - "You could even start out just by offering to interview customers and put video testimonials up on their website and facebook pages... A Kodak iZ8 with a $20 mic clipped to their shirt will work very well." Yes, this sounds good too.

    I'm working with a friend of mine to iron out the business idea and I think we might just run with it with a small clientele from the "social" media side of things.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7876974].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author BizManRobert
    Originally Posted by zardon View Post

    Hello there

    Some time ago I remember a user in the Offline marketing who either sold Youtube videos to businesses.

    If I remember, the person got a high uptake, used a low-cost HD camera and went to a person's restaurant, filmed and got it uploaded that day; I also remember the person taking interview-style clips of people/businesses.

    I see other companies charging a lot of money for video production when we have the ability to do it for way less, get some money rolling in and start moving.

    I think I can run with this idea but I have some questions about it

    1) Amateur quality? Is it an issue?

    The hardware isn't an issue, today's low cost cameras shoot in HD, have steady settings and I can pick up a camera today that will help me put stuff on Youtube.

    But I am a bit worried a client may see it as a bit amateur. Was it ever an issue and how did you resolve this?

    2) Video editing and post-production

    I can use basic video editing software like iMovie, etc; but how much post-production was needed?

    3) Combining Youtube with Google+/Google Places setup as an up-sell.

    I'm interested in this idea but not quite sure how to structure it.

    I know Google places/local has changed a lot now, pretty much it's Google+ now; but I'm wondering if someone can recommend a good WSO that covers Youtube for business, and selling Google+/local/places to business?

    Thanks for now
    Hey zardon

    I have something right up your street..!
    PM if you are interested...
    Signature
    ''Discover How To Make $19,289 In Just 30 Days From Biz Owners Begging You To Take Their Money!''

    "Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's thinking. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition." ~ Steve Jobs (RIP)
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7881135].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author PrestonSr
    Hello,

    I think you should not worry that much when making a youtube video..you can create one and ask for persons to give you views abt them.

    otherwise my best advice will be to use Animoto.com that allows you to make very high quality 1080p videos that the viewers are going to absolutely love

    Have a great day
    Signature
    10,000+ quality TWITTER followers
    10,000+ quality YOUTUBE views

    -Facebook -Pinterest -Google+ -Instagram
    Contact me on Skype: prestonconsultance or eMail me jesusnervous@gmail.com
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7882893].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author NewParadigm
    amateur HD quality is good if you set it up as a "shot live" type event. Like a remote news broadcast. Just rig up or buy a cheap camera/external light rig and external interview microphone. I think you really want to pay more attention to getting good sound. It's easy to get good cheap HD video these days but nothing is worse than piss poor sound in a video. It's an auto exit for me.

    Make it an event for the restaurant to promote in advance. " 'Net RestaurantTV here on Friday night!" Have a red carpet and a fast signs large backdrop sign where you take customer photos and do interviews so you have the logo of restaurant and your company logo all over the background, like the red carpet at awards shows. People like to feel special and get a little celebrity treatment. Heck, look at renting a big promotional balloon or a revolving sky spotlight. It'll pack the house and get tons of good interviews.

    Then have the customers opt in to get themselves tagged on social media in photos/video. A ton of people will turn out to "be on internet TV". Boom, you've built them a nice list.
    Signature

    In a moment of decision the best thing you can do is the right thing. The worst thing you can do is nothing. ~ Theodore Roosevelt

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7883379].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author bawls
    To tell you the absolute truth, Youtube videos are lousy for most local business and for the same reason social media is, people don't go to those sites looking for solutions to their local businesses needs. Also a large chunk localized traffic is people browsing from work and video is not a good way to deliver a sales message on machines with no audio.So selling the false value of a video is not going to hold up to much scrutiny.

    just my two cents
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7883446].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Marty S
      Originally Posted by bawls View Post

      To tell you the absolute truth, Youtube videos are lousy for most local business and for the same reason social media is, people don't go to those sites looking for solutions to their local businesses needs. Also a large chunk localized traffic is people browsing from work and video is not a good way to deliver a sales message on machines with no audio.So selling the false value of a video is not going to hold up to much scrutiny.

      just my two cents
      All current data, facts and trends would suggest that everything you said here - is completely inaccurate.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7886655].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Rollmodl
        Originally Posted by bawls View Post

        To tell you the absolute truth, Youtube videos are lousy for most local business and for the same reason social media is, people don't go to those sites looking for solutions to their local businesses needs. Also a large chunk localized traffic is people browsing from work and video is not a good way to deliver a sales message on machines with no audio.So selling the false value of a video is not going to hold up to much scrutiny.

        just my two cents
        Originally Posted by Marty S View Post

        All current data, facts and trends would suggest that everything you said here - is completely inaccurate.
        Your are wrong. It is lousy for the fact that just like Facebook it's not someplace where people go to look for products and services and most YouTube videos are of poor quality.

        I have been producing videos for years. My videos are exclusive to my platform but still get more views that their YouTube counterparts. Why?
        • Quality
        • Social media
        • Targeted local marketing
        Here is the strategy The Secret To More Leads, Customers & Sales
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7886773].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author wislndixie
          Originally Posted by Rollmodl View Post

          Your are wrong. It is lousy for the fact that just like Facebook it's not someplace where people go to look for products and services and most YouTube videos are of poor quality.

          I have been producing videos for years. My videos are exclusive to my platform but still get more views that their YouTube counterparts. Why?
          • Quality
          • Social media
          • Targeted local marketing
          Here is the strategy The Secret To More Leads, Customers & Sales
          I like your videomagazine concept, are you franchising or offering it as a WSO?
          Mike
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7890446].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author Rollmodl
            Originally Posted by wislndixie View Post

            I like your videomagazine concept, are you franchising or offering it as a WSO?
            Mike
            The magazine is a little over 1 year old, I haven't begun marketing and haven't thought about franchising. My goal to compete with Yelp on a local level. So far the magazine has two location, New York and Houston. As long as I have been WF I've seen the term WSO but what is it and how does it work?
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7890476].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author bawls
        Originally Posted by Marty S View Post

        All current data, facts and trends would suggest that everything you said here - is completely inaccurate.
        What data? the data the suggest people like watching videos, yes they do but they don't like watching commercials, Did YouTube somehow change the mind set of peoples likes and dislikes?....do you use the video option when looking for a plumber in your area or do you read some Google reviews and get your sink fixed?

        Here is the "data" you should pay attention to, get a good video, rank it then see how much direct response you get for the business you are promoting, look at a businesses site analytic that does a ton of video and see how much comes from video share sites.

        because outside a few niches and some incredibly entertaining commercials, video is way over hyped.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7886878].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author Rollmodl
          Originally Posted by bawls View Post

          What data? the data the suggest people like watching videos, yes they do but they don't like watching commercials, Did YouTube somehow change the mind set of peoples likes and dislikes?....do you use the video option when looking for a plumber in your area or do you read some Google reviews and get your sink fixed?

          Here is the "data" you should pay attention to, get a good video, rank it then see how much direct response you get for the business you are promoting, look at a businesses site analytic that does a ton of video and see how much comes from video share sites.

          because outside a few niches and some incredibly entertaining commercials, video is way over hyped.
          I agree with most everything you said except the overhyped. This was just posted yesterday on FB by one of our supporters:

          Thatvideomagazine blew it out of the park with this one! I've gotten so many phone calls with people wanting tables fixed it's hard to keep track. When you need post-it notes to keep track of how many tables are in your possession you're on the right track! huge shout out to them and xxx for making things happen for the little guy. Keep your eyes on THATVIDEOMAGAZINE.COM for all things going on in Houston, they have the best coverage, the coolest vids, and they put the spotlight on the people who deserve it, not those who already got it. It's refreshing, its intriguing, and as we call it F-F-F-FRESH!
          Video link: http://www.thatvideomagazine.com/hou...cs-1200-repair

          More stats

          In August 2012 we created a content rich video on Vinny Ten, a veteran in the car industry. Here's Vinny's stats as of January 2013:
          • Hits: 85,000 plus
          • Facebook Likes & Shares: 1,900
          • Facebook Comments: 168
          • Tweets: 40
          • Google Ranking: #2


          Video link: Vinny Ten Calls Out Fake Shops, F****d Up Cars & Frustrated Tuners!
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7886911].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author bawls
            Originally Posted by Rollmodl View Post

            I agree with most everything you said except the overhyped. This was just posted yesterday on FB by one of our supporters:



            Video link: Don

            More stats

            In August 2012 we created a content rich video on Vinny Ten, a veteran in the car industry. Here's Vinny's stats as of January 2013:
            • Hits: 85,000 plus
            • Facebook Likes & Shares: 1,900
            • Facebook Comments: 168
            • Tweets: 40
            • Google Ranking: #2


            Video link: Vinny Ten Calls Out Fake Shops, F****d Up Cars & Frustrated Tuners!
            Well I do concede that video has some impact in some niches, just not most. The idea that someone can traffic a site or gen up some social media traffic is far and away from the actual worth of the advertising.

            Tunas and Muscle Cars are something that has entertainment value were tax accounting has negative entertainment value.
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7886981].message }}
            • Profile picture of the author Rollmodl
              Originally Posted by bawls View Post

              Well I do concede that video has some impact in some niches, just not most. The idea that someone can traffic a site or gen up some social media traffic is far and away from the actual worth of the advertising.

              Tunas and Muscle Cars are something that has entertainment value were tax accounting has negative entertainment value.
              Any advertising is "worth" it as long as it's turning a profit so worth is only relative.
              {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7886988].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author Marty S
            Yes, completely cognizant of the fact the FB is not known for search engine results (as of yet), but it and other social media outlets are certainly a catalyst for search results.

            Agreed, most Youtube videos are of poor quality, but that has nothing to do with serving your offline client with effective videos and social media marketing.

            For posters here who believe that video is "over-hyped" all I can say is.... carry on!
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7886983].message }}
            • Profile picture of the author Rollmodl
              Originally Posted by Marty S View Post

              Yes, completely cognizant of the fact the FB is not known for search engine results (as of yet), but it and other social media outlets are certainly a catalyst for search results.

              Agreed, most Youtube videos are of poor quality, but that has nothing to do with serving your offline client with effective videos and social media marketing.

              For posters here who believe that video is "over-hyped" all I can say is.... carry on!
              Agreed ! Most people just don't have a strategy or know how to do it correctly. That is why they do not see the value.
              {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7886996].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Eddie Spangler
      Originally Posted by bawls View Post

      To tell you the absolute truth, Youtube videos are lousy for most local business and for the same reason social media is, people don't go to those sites looking for solutions to their local businesses needs. Also a large chunk localized traffic is people browsing from work and video is not a good way to deliver a sales message on machines with no audio.So selling the false value of a video is not going to hold up to much scrutiny.

      just my two cents
      You have given some good advice but its kinda hard to take a man seriously when you make blanket statements like this ESPECIALLY when it is FLAT OUT WRONG.

      They can take up another spot in the search engines to give you more exposure and maybe knock one of your competitors out.
      No they dont go to youtube generally to find you but that doenst mean the video wont be found.
      A well optimized video tends to rank very well in Google.

      Most everyone I know at work uses sound, so a few dont have sound and we are supposed to worry about that small minority:confused:

      They help people get to know you and you can form
      a relationship before they even come in for the first time.

      Great Way to show testimonials from satisfied customers.
      Far more powerful than just some text on the website.

      If there is any reason why they are not great for local businesses its because the vast majority are not doing it right.

      I know that I was one of the first independent guys to use video in this area and that got me lots of attention that would have been hard to get without knocking on lots of doors.
      Signature
      Promise Big.
      Deliver Bigger.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7887542].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author bawls
        Originally Posted by Eddie Spangler View Post

        You have given some good advice but its kinda hard to take a man seriously when you make blanket statements like this ESPECIALLY when it is FLAT OUT WRONG.

        They can take up another spot in the search engines to give you more exposure and maybe knock one of your competitors out.
        No they don't go to youtube generally to find you but that doesn't mean the video wont be found.
        A well optimized video tends to rank very well in Google.

        Most everyone I know at work uses sound, so a few don't have sound and we are supposed to worry about that small minority:confused:

        They help people get to know you and you can form
        a relationship before they even come in for the first time.

        Great Way to show testimonials from satisfied customers.
        Far more powerful than just some text on the website.

        If there is any reason why they are not great for local businesses its because the vast majority are not doing it right.

        I know that I was one of the first independent guys to use video in this area and that got me lots of attention that would have been hard to get without knocking on lots of doors.
        Well, I would say show me the data, analytic or some direct response data, because if you are talking about some nebulous idea of local branding or some getting to know the place and people, I doubt that is actionable for local business owners who want to see the bang for their buck.

        I have seen a metric ton of analytic data from local business who do plenty of "video" marketing and the data just don't support it. I have many keywords that I control the entire serp out side of paid inclusion, with two videos and guess what gets the least traffic if any? Organic listing #1 plenty of traffic..one boxed G+ plenty of traffic, videos? spam youtube traffic and the little from Google do get probably other marketers looking into the niche.

        As far as business with sound, look at some Google analytic some time and see the % of sound enabled devices and see if you co-workers are a good representation of the work place for sound enabled devices.

        Now if you are a niche that involves some hobbies or entertainment, video is probably a viable vehicle for advertising as people are not looking for a quick solution but to be entertained or intellectually stimulated, most local niches can not be pressed into this service.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7888036].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author CreekChub
        Originally Posted by Eddie Spangler View Post

        You have given some good advice but its kinda hard to take a man seriously when you make blanket statements like this ESPECIALLY when it is FLAT OUT WRONG.

        They can take up another spot in the search engines to give you more exposure and maybe knock one of your competitors out.
        No they dont go to youtube generally to find you but that doenst mean the video wont be found.
        A well optimized video tends to rank very well in Google.

        Most everyone I know at work uses sound, so a few dont have sound and we are supposed to worry about that small minority:confused:

        They help people get to know you and you can form
        a relationship before they even come in for the first time.

        Great Way to show testimonials from satisfied customers.
        Far more powerful than just some text on the website.

        If there is any reason why they are not great for local businesses its because the vast majority are not doing it right.

        I know that I was one of the first independent guys to use video in this area and that got me lots of attention that would have been hard to get without knocking on lots of doors.
        Exactly. I love video, but not because I'm so misguided that I think a youtube video is going to drive thousands of dollars to my average client. Some of you guys need to think a little more creatively.

        When you do a search for one of my local clients, and the first page of results is completely dominated by:

        a) their site
        b) their fb page
        c) their G+ listing
        and d-j) their various videos

        I get a big grin on my face. My clients do too. It's all about the intent and the usage. Taking up more virtual real estate lends instant credibility to a local business. When a potential customer does a search, and they can't see much on the first page or two other than my client, guess where they end up spending their money?

        The beauty is that for most local businesses you don't need to be a rocket scientist to make that happen, thus they don't have to pay multiple thousands of dollars a month to do it. 5 years from now it may be a different ballgame.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7890571].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author helisell
    Audio quality is more important than video quality.

    Found this on youtube


    Low quality but seems to do the job.
    Signature

    Making Calls To Sell Something? What are you actually saying?
    Is there any room for improvement? Want to find out?

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7888627].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author bluecoyotemedia
    nice thread and some good info

    its threads like these I call gems amongst the massive poop that actually keeps me coming back to this forum.


    my expereinces with video has been this

    I use videos to rank on organic search.

    because even though you may not get the top spot

    just having that little thumbnail that can be customized ( by the way.. thank you Marty )

    if you show up near the bottom.. you can still get some good clicks and call to actions.. especially phone numbers

    people that are searching for solutions to thier problems tend to see something and call without even clciking on the video.

    anyway

    carry on

    eddie

    ps. rollmodl- been watching you thes epast 2 years or so with your video mag.. and your doing a great job..
    Signature

    Skunkworks: noun. informal.

    A clandestine group operating without any external intervention or oversight. Such groups achieve significant breakthroughs rarely discussed in public because they operate "outside the box".
    https://short-stuff.com/-Mjk0fDExOA==

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7890600].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Rollmodl
      Originally Posted by bluecoyotemedia View Post


      ps. rollmodl- been watching you thes epast 2 years or so with your video mag.. and your doing a great job..
      Thanks! It takes alot of work and patience to create a successful product. I'm more of a doer than a talker and constantly improving. Some of my favorite quotes:

      "The Internet is full of folks who will tell you right and wrong, but few will show you with their own actions, or respect other methods." - Geoff Livingston

      "If you are not promoting what your company does to your "community," how will your business grow? If you are not welcoming new people to your community and rather are hedging towards creating a clique, how will you ever incorporate new customers or new prospects into your audience?" - Sensei Marketing

      "Just do it" - Nike

      "Don't tell me, show me"

      "There is only one way to avoid criticism: Do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing." - Aristotle
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[7890614].message }}

Trending Topics