looking for someone to run my local marketing

You might be right. This is very nitch market too. The only thing I can say is that there is nation wide potential in that I am partnered with a pump manufacturing business. So there is more to it than I mentioned.

But your points are well taken and I might be wasting time here.

I might be willing to. It depends on the person and there track record. I was figuring that such a person might already know what they could do. I might be wrong about that.

My apologies. I should have done that. Just don't know my way around this forum well yet. Thanks for pointing that out.

Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

Get your pool pumps listed on shopping channels
such as Amazon, The Find and Google Shopping Channel.

It's a low cost way to pay for advertising in places where people are searching for what you've got.

For example, on Amazon, your ad will show up on pages where pool pumps are listed. Your reconditioned pumps would be a great alternative to new ones.

Alternatively you could list them on Amazon and Ebay standard listings.

Your margins are too slim for sharing a slice of the profits.
If need be, pay for help to set this up, then keep all the profits yourself.

Best,
Ewen

erussx2- the problem here is that you are asking someone to make you money, and if they can, they can get half of what they make you. it's a nice concept but the problem is, they can be spending the same amount of time marketing on the internet and keep 100% of the profit.

now you have 3 choices:

1: go the seo route where the person helping you wont see a return for all the hard work they did for you for a few months
2: paid ads route where they pay out of their pocket and take all the risk for only 50%(lucky you huh? no risk on you...)
3: a combination of both

do you really see any of those option as fair? if you do, then there is a problem because there is risk in business and marketing and you are unwilling to take on any of it. also with paid ads, you have to pay to test them to see which ones work best and then upscale.

i can help you, but not with your current mindset. if there is potential in this market, then you might want to consider a partner and not someone you want to free load off of with no risk on your part. if not, then you will have to pay up front for expert services from someone who is capable.

your only other option is study and research what you need to do yourself and do it....but i know you don't want to do that already because it costs time AND money and none of them is what you are willing to sacrifice, but thought strangers would jump at that chance?

i would look in to what ewenmack said with amazon and ebay. ebay is great if you know what you are doing....

Thanks for you recommendations. The long answer to what you said is too long.

The only companies that would be interested in what I have are companies that do home warranty work on pools. I would pay a couple thousand or more for such a list if you could get it.

It depends on the volume of sales. Also the period of time in which a person would get this commission (or whatever we want to call it).

But if you have enough volume you can just pay someone up front a few grand to do this.

As for being rich I am not. Though I am in the top 20% and I think top 15% for personal income in the US. But it's not really about money it is about time. Like I said earlier the industry average for services like this would be around $100/hr and while I don't know how many hours would be needed I can take a guess.

Claude offers a package to offline businesses for like 4 grand (if I remember right) which I think would be of use for your business for example. But he and most marketers would want to be paid first. Where you are offering a kind of long term commission structure. While it might pay more in the long run it is risker.

But in the end on a commission basis there would need to be more info on how this would be structured and rather the money would be worth it. In many ways this would be more like a joint venture. And with the right numbers if might be worth it to someone here.

The problem is the margins are low and it appears your sales volume is low. Now the right marketer might see an opportunity here to really expand your business but the risk is they expand your business and never get paid.

your mind set is still wrong. like i said before, you want everyone else to take the risk and you are unwilling to take any of the risk.

there is no guaranteed system in internet marketing. everything needs to be tested. what you are asking is that someone tests the different methods of marketing for you before they even get paid. they pay AFTER that seems good, but part of your deal is that they don't get paid until YOU do.

from my standpoint, your idea is unfair. it's not a question of "how much", but "how fair" it is when you want someone to take on all the work and all the risk. we already do that by working for ourselves and yes.....we get paid very well AND we keep 100% of the profits.

ask yourself this. if we can develop a sales funnel that works, it's worth a lot more than 50%. all we would have to do from there is find suppliers which really isn't that hard. so what would keep someone from doing just that? someone can easily take advantage of you just like you're trying to take advantage.

there could be someone desperate to take advantage of your offer, but if they are so desperate, the chances of them taking advantage of you increases in the future and the long run.

this is a very targeted niche. this isn't like some affiliate program you want to promote where some people are willing to market to their targeted lists, create squeeze pages and videos to make sales(work for free and then hopefully get paid if they know what they are doing).

people would be more willing if you put up some sort of compensation or guarantee up front or some collateral from your current sales. what i suggest is pay a base fee for a project and as a motivator, offer a % of the commissions. this is the balance you will need to have where you might get some takers.

so YOU will have to take on some part of the risk and not expect someone else to do that and work for free and even spend some money out of their own pocket for adverts.

or, if you really want to get sneaky. pay someone to create some sales funnels, package them up, sell it as a wso. there are some wso's that work like this and THAT is a sneaky way for getting 100 or so people to work for you for free and taking on ALL the risk.

if i was selling pool pumps or motors, i would be doing what you are already doing but i would also be using ebay and adwords. i would also try to rank my website for multiple keywords. if i could get the pumps for below wholesale, i would also be contacting wholesalers and even possibly retailers who specialize in pool parts. what i WOULDN'T do is target locally. why target locally and limit sales? i don't understand that....

If you can identify these companies, pay to get that list and pay for the mailing, I would look at writing the sales message and take payment from the commission, IF I feel we can work together.

Feel free to PM me.

Best,
Ewen

erussx2, sent a private message to you.

Best,
Ewen

ok.. Thanks