by umc
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So let's say that you realize at some point that your prices on recurring services are lower than what you should be charging. After all, many start out offering low prices to attract customers. Eventually there will come a time when you realize that you aren't really earning what you're worth, possibly even below the average in a given service.

Do you raise your prices all at once to bring you up where you need to be, or do you raise them incrementally?

I have a business in the service industry that I'm priced below average on. Let's say that I'm charging $100 for a service every month and the average price would be $130. Should I bump customers up the $30 in one move, or would it be better to do three $10 bumps and spread it out.
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  • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
    Is your service delivering?

    Is their (your clients) ROI good enough to warrant your increases?

    If so you are justified to increase if the ROI is still positive, and at those figures it should be .
    In future maybe make it a trial price that does increase once you prove your services get the ROI
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  • Profile picture of the author jsmm
    If you can justify it with results ..
    Rule of thumb do what the big guys do like banks and phone company's and let them know that they got in under a special new client pricing and can not afford to do the service at that price ..
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    • Profile picture of the author umc
      Well, our service is cleaning, and we actually provide better than average service. The ROI in our business is obviously a clean house, but it is also quality of life, we have no employees and build enormous trust in ourselves as people they can count on, we offer guidance on home maintenance issues, offer other services for cleaning their carpets and automobiles, etc. Our customers really genuinely like us as people and value our service.

      I brought this up not just to get into our business though. I figured that this subject is pertinent to a lot of people here that provide SEO, direct mail, or other potentially ongoing services. Pricing mistakes are common.
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    • Profile picture of the author umc
      Originally Posted by jsmm View Post

      If you can justify it with results ..
      Rule of thumb do what the big guys do like banks and phone company's and let them know that they got in under a special new client pricing and can not afford to do the service at that price ..
      I think a lot of people realize a year or two down the line how they've really sold themselves short. Not sure if the special new client pricing would fly in such an instance, though I guess cable companies do such after a year.
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  • Profile picture of the author bob ross
    Send them a letter explaining that you're going to be increasing the cost on X date or X month.

    Give them as much notice as possible; preferably more than one month. Explain the reasoning why so that it makes complete sense to them. If you can add some kind of service in with it, that will help so that they feel they're getting more and not just spending more.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      I had an advertising rep ask me the same question. Here is how I answered her...

      "You need to raise the price all at once. It is't the amount of the increase, it's that you are increasing your price at all. So, increasing it slowly just multiplies the number of times you will create anxiety in the clients."

      She needed to raise her price from $450 to $600. I told here to say that they were going to raise the price to $750 because of costs going up so drastically, and that they had been holding off raising their price for a few years.

      "Tell it to them in person. Then say you will fight to hold the increase down.
      When it comes out only $600, they will breath a sigh of relief."

      She did, it worked...and my price went up to $600....So I ..won? :rolleyes:


      Another way is to give a gift, and explain it's because they are good clients, and there has to be an increase. You may lose a few. But it isn't like you are doubling their fee.
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      • Profile picture of the author umc
        Thanks Claude! That's exactly what I said when my wife and I were talking about the subject this morning. I feel the same way. It isn't about the amount, the emotion is tied to the fact that price is going up. Dragging it out would irritate me personally.

        I also know not to raise everyone's price simultaneously. I'll spread it out so that I can fill any holes created over time. The bad news is that some people don't place a huge value on services like cleaning and this will weed out those few. The good news is that we have a huge waiting list for our services. When the hotel is full, its time to raise the rent. It may not be pretty though with some people. Guess we'll find out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    I disagree with that umc. I would raise prices all at once. The worst thing you could have happen is have two people who are clients who know each other and only one is getting a price increase. No one wants to feel like someone else is getting a better deal.

    Do them all at once. And if prices are not set packages consider a percentage increase for all.

    "Every price will be going up 8% during the November Billing Cycle."

    Other than that the other tips given tell you all you need to know.
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    • Profile picture of the author umc
      I guess I didn't address that side Aaron, but I agree as far as clients that know one another. We get lots of referrals and would only raise one of the group if we did the rest at the same time, but the reality is that we have some that don't need to be raised at all that we priced more recently while others were priced many years ago. Some are loners, others have lots of friends and family that we work for. Makes it all kind of tricky, as coming up with a one size fits all structure is difficult when every client is so different.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    If you truly have a massive difference in price I would touch base with them on a one on one basis and explain it.

    "Our prices for current customers are much higher. To reward your loyality we have strived to avoid raising prices on you but we must now raise you up to our normal pricing. In your case that would be $_______. But to reward you loyalty we can offer a __% discount so for the Nov billing cycle your new price will be $_____"

    Something like that
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    • Profile picture of the author umc
      I've been performing time studies on our homes. Some we make $30+ per hour, others $20 and sometimes even less. Over time things change. People add kids, pets, and let's face it, everybody fills there homes with more "stuff", all of which adds to the workload. Some homes are close to us, and others are 30 minutes each way. Lots of things come into play.
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      • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
        Originally Posted by umc View Post

        I've been performing time studies on our homes. Some we make $30+ per hour, others $20 and sometimes even less. Over time things change. People add kids, pets, and let's face it, everybody fills there homes with more "stuff", all of which adds to the workload. Some homes are close to us, and others are 30 minutes each way. Lots of things come into play.
        You can still standardize this.

        $___ per hour plus $__ per mile.

        Standardizing is great and I don't know why people fight it so much on pricing. It avoids issues like this ever coming up.
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        • Profile picture of the author umc
          Sure, standardizing is great. In fact, that's how we prices things from day one. We had an hourly rate and add on for distance. The problem is that we weren't always accurate from day one in our assessment as to how long the home would take. An initial cleaning must be done to get it to our standards, and only thereafter can the maintenance cleanings begin. Sometimes we are amazed at how quickly one can destroy their home, and other times we're impressed at how clean they keep it. Like I mentioned earlier, families and homes change over the years. Standardization is good if one can accurately predict time from day one, and if nothing changes, or at least if we would have changed with it.

          Pricing for us has always been a challenge. We were both raised poor and cheap, so our perception was skewed. Additionally, we started out of desperation and priced ourselves low at first, which was honestly and sadly commensurate with our abilities back then. We just had a hard time changing with the times, mismanaged money as neither of us knew how to handle it, got $55k in tax debt, and really couldn't afford to do much changing then. Beggars couldn't be choosers. Now we are out of debt other than our modest home with money in the bank, a full schedule of work, and a lengthy waiting list without even trying to get more work. It is our chance now to change and mature and we're attempting to do that. I'm also currently working on freeing up time to get into marketing and consulting for others, as you know from our chats.

          Hopefully this hike allows for several changes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eddie Spangler
    Well then all this should be fairly easy to pull off as it doesnt seem like you have anything to lose by raising prices.

    Although I can understand that you may have developed some long term relationships with clients and may feel that you will disappoint a few with the move.

    Just make sure that you are conscious of the wording that you use to notify people so that they can understand why this is necessary.
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    • Profile picture of the author umc
      We know that some will be unhappy. It used to bother me, but as time has gone by I've realized that clients we thought were friends were only friends as far as the money went. In other words, if they decided to spend money on something else, or money got tight, we as the cleaners were the first to go. So, in a relationship predicated on money, money will always be somewhat a determining factor in how people feel about us. They have no problem dropping us if need be financially, so we should have no problem raising our prices to a respectable amount and dropping them if they can't pay it. It's the cold truth, even if we've watched their kids grow up or house-sat for them while they were on vacation and slept in their home and cared for their pets.

      I'm not going to raise prices without a detailed explanation. If you've ever seen my posts here, you know that I will probably over-share if anything, lol.

      I even did market research and questioned local companies on their prices based on a certain style of home and with certain qualifications, and know the average price for that home. I also know that most of our homes are far larger than that and priced maybe even lower than the average for the smaller home that we queried about. The home in question got me an average price of $120 or so when we contacted other companies (though admittedly only a few even bothered to respond, which is typical), and we charge $85 for it. We have some ground to make up, particularly with some clients that we've had for many years. At the same time, we realize that to be our fault.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kommrad Khol
    However you decide to go about this, be sure to give your clients ample notice, at least 3 months in my opinion, even longer if they're a really good client (good as in not an asshole, not necessarily high paying).
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  • Profile picture of the author Marvin Johnston
    Back when I still owned a printed circuit facility, I started out of my garage. And that "cheap": mentality stayed with me too long. After we moved to a real facility, my GM pointed out rather strongly that our only option to stay in business was to raise prices... and we did. The increase was between 50% to 100% all at once.

    And yes, we did lose some clients... for a week or so. We excelled in customer service, and our quality was excellent.

    Our prices were still too low... just not as low after the price increase .

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  • Profile picture of the author NewParadigm
    I've found raising prices on clients is more of an issue in my head, rather then theirs.
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    • Profile picture of the author umc
      Originally Posted by NewParadigm View Post

      I've found raising prices on clients is more of an issue in my head, rather then theirs.
      Wish I could say that was true here with confidence. We have tried raising prices in the past on a much smaller scale with some mixed results. Lost a few clients over not much money. The problem is that some people place a very limited value on certain services. Although we lost some, they were clearly drawn to us based on price more than anything when it came to a head. We replaced them with people that were more appreciative. Some people get ridiculous over things. We have a lady that asked us to clean her refrigerator. She's a lifelong realtor near retirement, has been quite successful, and has plenty of money. My wife emptied her fridge and was starting to clean it when the lady realized that we were charging $20 for cleaning the fridge. She asked my wife to put everything back and said that she'd do it herself. You would think that the lady didn't appreciate us at all. Then again, she hugs us when we come over, gives us little gifts, but for some reason paying more cash money for services feels like robbery to her. We raised our prices $20 for detailing and she couldn't spend it to get her $40,000 SUV detailed, instead opting to take it to a car wash.

      People are emotional about their money, rather than logical, which always makes it a gamble to raise prices. We could very well lose much more than we gain in the short term, but we can replace those clients with ones that will pay more. I wonder how this experience compares to marketing. I would imagine that it is a shared experience across the board, no matter what service is being offered. Or maybe we should have branded ourselves better from the beginning. We kind of set the expectations one way and are trying to change them. We often teach others how to treat us.
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      • Profile picture of the author jimbo13
        I hope you know what I mean by Margins (England) but if you know them then you will also know how many customers you can afford to lose to stand still financially if that makes sense. (Not that you want to but it is inevitable)

        However, you would be doing slightly less work for that financial stalemate.

        You then market and sell to new clients until you are back at your working capacity.

        If you don't know how to do it your Accountant will run it through his projection software in 10 minutes with your current figures.

        If your price is simply to bring it into line with the norm you should not lose many at all. Just the ones who buy the lowest price.

        I would rather pay $120 and stay with someone that I know turns up on time, does a good job and doesn't steal anything than go elsewhere for $110 and risk these three things.

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      • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
        Originally Posted by umc View Post

        Wish I could say that was true here with confidence. We have tried raising prices in the past on a much smaller scale with some mixed results. Lost a few clients over not much money. The problem is that some people place a very limited value on certain services. Although we lost some, they were clearly drawn to us based on price more than anything when it came to a head. We replaced them with people that were more appreciative. Some people get ridiculous over things. We have a lady that asked us to clean her refrigerator. She's a lifelong realtor near retirement, has been quite successful, and has plenty of money. My wife emptied her fridge and was starting to clean it when the lady realized that we were charging $20 for cleaning the fridge. She asked my wife to put everything back and said that she'd do it herself. You would think that the lady didn't appreciate us at all. Then again, she hugs us when we come over, gives us little gifts, but for some reason paying more cash money for services feels like robbery to her. We raised our prices $20 for detailing and she couldn't spend it to get her $40,000 SUV detailed, instead opting to take it to a car wash.

        People are emotional about their money, rather than logical, which always makes it a gamble to raise prices. We could very well lose much more than we gain in the short term, but we can replace those clients with ones that will pay more. I wonder how this experience compares to marketing. I would imagine that it is a shared experience across the board, no matter what service is being offered. Or maybe we should have branded ourselves better from the beginning. We kind of set the expectations one way and are trying to change them. We often teach others how to treat us.

        Personally - I would fire that woman as a client. Anyone causing me stress or playing those games is not someone I want in my life. There are LOTS of people who are easy going. And as you discovered, when you raise your rates you get better people.

        If the average price is $130 - I would not go to $130.

        Since you are raising prices anyway - why not go higher than average? This will mean you can keep your price the same for a very long time and would be much happier with your clients.

        Who is the most expensive service in your area? Figure out why they can command such prices and copy them, then charge the same. The most successful, well-liked companies in almost any industry usually have a high pricing strategy. The exceptions are people selling commodities (car industry and the like) - cleaning is NOT a commodity at all.

        Also - I wouldn't tell people their price is going up immediately. I would put it off a little. Tell them it is going up in two months - they really wont immediately care and by the time it goes up they will be used to the idea. Over those next two months you can increase your level of service to where it will be when the price bump happens.

        Anyone you lose because of a price bump will be easy enough to replace - and you will have more money.
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  • Profile picture of the author Craig Paulson
    Originally Posted by umc View Post

    So let's say that you realize at some point that your prices on recurring services are lower than what you should be charging. After all, many start out offering low prices to attract customers. Eventually there will come a time when you realize that you aren't really earning what you're worth, possibly even below the average in a given service.

    Do you raise your prices all at once to bring you up where you need to be, or do you raise them incrementally?

    I have a business in the service industry that I'm priced below average on. Let's say that I'm charging $100 for a service every month and the average price would be $130. Should I bump customers up the $30 in one move, or would it be better to do three $10 bumps and spread it out.
    Do it in 1 shot. This assumes you can justify it in terms of the competition and the value you are providing. No one is going to pay an extra 30% "just because". Show them the WIIFM.
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    • Profile picture of the author umc
      Thanks to everyone that responded. I really appreciate it.

      I've got all of the financial possibilities outlined. I have a spreadsheet where I calculate all kinds of things, from what the price is to what it should be to what it could be. I've got numbers on how much we stand to profit and what we also stand to lose. I love numbers, so I've done lots of analysis.

      Thanks for giving me a push to not settle for even just average on our pricing structure, and for helping me to bounce the way that price adjustments should be made off of others that are more experienced. My wife and I have worked really hard to get here. The goal now is to maximize our earning potential in what we already have to free me up some time to pursue my dream of marketing and consulting.

      Who knows, maybe this time next year I'll be asking for advice on pricing my marketing and consulting services. It is indeed a dream, maybe that's the next reality.
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