Is my approach wrong?

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I got a warm lead through my website about web marketing from local plumber.

I looked at his website and website is just intuit page..I called and explain first thing is need redesign with better call action & responsive..he asked me how much, I gave him a quote($1795) this case..he repeat one thousand? then hand up on me..

well, I am not gonna call him again..seems like he doesnt have budget for it ..he will curse at me when I quote him a SEO price for sure..

What is best approach to a Low roller? or just avoiding this kind client?
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  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    Originally Posted by jspmedia View Post

    I gave him a quote($1795) this case..he repeat one thousand? then hand up on me..

    seems like he doesnt have budget for it

    What is best approach to a Low roller? or just avoiding this kind client?
    A plumber exists who actually can't afford $1795?

    Or is it you didn't get him to see the value of it sufficiently?
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  • Profile picture of the author jspmedia
    Yup..look at craigslist, full of $99 webdesign ads..
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    If he hung up on you, Brian, then he's probably not a fit.

    YOU told him what he needed...did HE tell you anything? Perhaps he thought his "site" was fine. And then you say "What you need is a $1800 fix-up". Did you monetize the problem? My gut says no you didn't.

    So you threw an $1800 price tag at him for something he didn't understand the value of or need for, and he got mad. Not a shocker, really.

    On anther track, you are NOT competing against $99 CL websites. Anyone with half a brain knows the difference.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    Do you get many leads?
    Of those leads how many bring up a price objection?

    My guess, without seeing the site and marketing, is that it is attracting and converting people looking for cheap web design.

    The other idea is that what you said you would do for him didn't seem worth $1795. If the guy is used to his website being just there and not bringing business he might freak out at $1795 since he was paying $19.95 per month. And i am sure yours had a monthly fee as well.

    So the two take ideas to fix it would be make sure your marketing and page are set up to presell. You want the customers contacting you to be prequalified. They want a website that converts not just sits and that takes money.

    Then once you get those people you need to sell them on the benefits they get. And here's a hint.... new website is not a benefit. Also if you keep getting price objections you should use anchoring. If you are not familiar with the term the best way to explain it is to earlier in the sales process drop prices and justification for such prices. Often comparing Apples to Oranges like online training vs. the cost of university training. Infomercials do this well.

    Example: "One of the ways we will get you more traffic is to use _______ techinique originally created by Dan Kennedy. If you are not familiar with Dan Kennedy, he would be best described as one of the top marketing consultants in the Country who charges several thousand dollars per day. Not to bore you with details but in layman's terms this technique works by......."

    Example: "A website, when designed with your consumer in mind, can act as a sort of 24 hr a day, 7 day a week help desk. And a small company like yours could pay several thousand per month for a help desk service that was available 24/7."

    Example: "By setting up your contact form and presell page to collect all that information many of my clients save on average 30 mins per call vs. those who find them in the yellow pages. Even if all we got was 10 calls that would be 5 hours of your time per month. At your hourly rate that is like $3,000 a year in extra billable time."

    BTW my examples may suck as I don't sell websites nor do I design them so I'm pulling it out of my ass. But take the basic ideas and convert them to your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author jspmedia
    He knows his site is very old and need a new site....he asked how much..

    @aaron I like this approach
    Example: "A website, when designed with your consumer in mind, can act as a sort of 24 hr a day, 7 day a week help desk. And a small company like yours could pay several thousand per month for a help desk service that was available 24/7."
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    • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
      Originally Posted by jspmedia View Post

      He knows his site is very old and need a new site....he asked how much..

      @aaron I like this approach
      Example: "A website, when designed with your consumer in mind, can act as a sort of 24 hr a day, 7 day a week help desk. And a small company like yours could pay several thousand per month for a help desk service that was available 24/7."
      He just wants a new place holder. And likely knows he can get that for under $500. To get more money the site has to be more and the client has to want more. Yes you can teach him to want more and why but it is easier if they are pre-educated on it.

      Glad you liked that a classic Apples to Oranges comparison to show the value is greater then what he perceives a website to be worth.
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    • Profile picture of the author Huskerdarren
      Question for you. Is $1795 the price tag for a one size fits all website? He may want 3 pages or he may want 20. Don't just throw price around. You gotta draw him out so you can find his pain points and then proceed to educate him on some web strategies so that he can see that you've put some thought into his business.

      In your case, he likely is kicking tires, but don't make this mistake again. The way you handled it is a lesson in how to improve at sales by doing things differently in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author AZRanger
    Is your approach to quote a price, tell them what it entails and then wait for the sale? Consultative Sales is the best approach in my opinion. What does he need? What is his budget? What is the purpose of his site? Needs Analysis like Husker speaks to in his post. I cold call for a living and then-if an interest-Needs Analysis-Consult-Options-Price-Objection-Restate/Overcome/Answer-Ask for the business again. This is not inclusive process but, you get the gist. If there is no value then ANY price is too much.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew North
    Originally Posted by jspmedia View Post

    I looked at his website and website is just intuit page..I called and explain first thing is need redesign with better call action & responsive..he asked me how much, I gave him a quote($1795) this case..he repeat one thousand? then hand up on me..

    What is best approach to a Low roller? or just avoiding this kind client?
    Sounds like:

    You didn't reset their buying criteria. What is important to them? What is he looking for? What problems is he having? What kind of an impact is that having on his business? What would it mean for him to achieve xxxx?

    You spoke about features which he doesn't understand, doesn't need and doesn't see the value in.

    You gave your price without retaking control and go into their buying criteria as above.

    If he really didn't have the budget then this process could be in futility, if he just wants to price he is likely on the bottom end of the market. Don't deal with people that will take advantage of your time and expertise.

    Talk more with clients that value your positioning of offering good products and GOOD but not necessarily CHEAP prices.

    Sounds like he did you a favour by hanging up on you imo
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Originally Posted by jspmedia View Post

    I got a warm lead through my website about web marketing from local plumber.
    Given that this lead came through your website, what about your
    website made him contact you?

    Perhaps your website needs more content that presells you
    and services offered. AND, gives your price ranges so you get a
    better budget match ahead of time.

    Maybe he wanted some other service that he thinks could bring
    him more business. (Even if he is mistakenly thinking he does
    not need a better website because his old one does not do
    anything for him and he has dismissed the whole website thingy.)

    Anyway, more conversation about him and what he needs seems
    like what needed to happen.

    Dan
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