Constructive Criticism - Calling Scripts

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After reading a ton of stuff on here and buying Claude's book and reading that last night I tried to write up a new script for my appointment setter. She makes some calls for us when we can't since we work the business plus have regular jobs. I had written a script previously for her but found out she decided to write her own but sounds too salesy to me. She is actually good on the phone but what I'm finding is that she is trying to talk people into our services rather than finding the ones that want our services and probably spends too much time per call rather than letting them go when they say no. The script below that is the new one along with reasons as to why she needs to stick to it. Also, I have my own script similar to the new one but it identifies me as the actual owner of the business. Any thoughts on all this is really appreciated.



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New Script with explanation


Hi Prospect? (Rather than ask "Can I speak to Bob"...if you are calling a male owner and a man answers just automatically say "Hi Bob?" likewise for a woman)


Is it a bad time or do you have a minute? (Always ask if it is a bad time. This is important because if it's not a bad time you are getting permission to keep speaking. If it is a bad time you don't want to be remembered as the person that bothered them during a crappy time. Just thank them and say you will call another time)


Here is the main part. Remember you just want to have a conversation with the business owner and "hook" him in order to make him want to have another conversation. The sales process should take place during the sales appointment, not during the appointment setting. If someone isn't interested just say ok and let them go...they are not your target market. Your target market are the ones that need and want the services and they are out there. Don't waste time trying to convince someone because you will end up with a bunch of appointments that go nowhere. (If the say no, read below what to do.)

This is Amy $&%&^% from DPM. We are a newer local business and work exclusively with skilled service businesses to make sure your business is found by new customers as well as retain current customers and get them coming back. Would you like to know more?




Common Responses:

No: Ok, I believe our business can really help you could I just send you some free information?
(try to get email address, while they said no at this time, they may be ready to buy after reading some info but do not force them to listen to a bunch of benefits, statistics and such...it will turn them off. Just let them go for now)

Yes: Great, would you have time this week to either sit down with our owner Jennifer, or have a phone appointment with her so she can learn a bit more about your business and let you know what the best options are for your particular company?
(Again this is giving them the option and letting them know that you aren't a cookie cutter business and take each individual business into account when making marketing plans)

How do you do that: We make sure that you are found online by the 85% of people searching for local businesses and we make sure you are found ahead of your competition.

What do you do: We make sure that you are found online by the 85% of people searching for local businesses and we make sure you are found ahead of your competition.

Is it expensive or it sounds expensive: Actually we built our business model to make it extremely affordable to business owners and we can work with you on that every step of the way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    STICK WITH SOMETHING.

    If you keep running around looking for the magic bullet you'll never get anywhere.

    An increased number of bad conversations is not going to help.

    Changing every variable you can think of all at once is not going to help.

    P.S. asking for script criticism is like asking for copy criticism. Two carpenters in a room will argue about how to do a job.
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    • Profile picture of the author DPMJennifer
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      STICK WITH SOMETHING.

      If you keep running around looking for the magic bullet you'll never get anywhere.

      An increased number of bad conversations is not going to help.

      Changing every variable you can think of all at once is not going to help.

      P.S. asking for script criticism is like asking for copy criticism. Two carpenters in a room will argue about how to do a job.
      Ok, I'm certainly not running around looking for the magic bullet. I am simply trying to find the best approach to introduce our services to business owners and get legit appointments. The script my appt setter changed to was very sales oriented so I am trying to give her something that she is comfortable with but is gets the prospect to either say no or interest them in an appt.

      We just truly started out so I am just trying to find the best route to take at this point. There is so much info here and other places it's extremely difficult for newbies to know which way to turn. I wish I had the money to spend to work with a sales trainer but at this point I do not so I'm trying my best to navigate all of the info.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaf5280
    Below is a script that gets to the point in the 30 seconds you have to connect with the prospect. Its just one of many many ways to go about intro scripts. I'm sure others can chime in on effective scripts that worked for them as well. Hope this helps.

    Catch their attention immediately with something amazing, in this case its sales revenue.
    Name drop another local business to build trust.
    Set expectations for the appointment.
    Introduce the Owner.
    Thanks them for their time.

    Good day, is this "Prospect name"? This is so and so from XYZ media and we just helped ABC Plumbing over on 123 Main street land 3 new customers which turned into $10,000 in sales revenue in just one week. They mentioned you may be interested in speaking with us when you have some free time. It will take 10 minutes of your time which I'm certain you will want to hear more about how we can help you out. Jennifer, our owner, is well respected among our customers and has some openings today or tomorrow, what does your schedule look like? .....Thanks for taking my call I promise you will want to hear what Jennifer has to share with you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
      Originally Posted by Shaf5280 View Post

      Below is a script that gets to the point in the 30 seconds you have to connect with the prospect. Its just one of many many ways to go about intro scripts. I'm sure others can chime in on effective scripts that worked for them as well. Hope this helps.

      Catch their attention immediately with something amazing, in this case its sales revenue.
      Name drop another local business to build trust.
      Set expectations for the appointment.
      Introduce the Owner.
      Thanks them for their time.

      Good day, is this "Prospect name"? This is so and so from XYZ media and we just helped ABC Plumbing over on 123 Main street land 3 new customers which turned into $10,000 in sales revenue in just one week. They mentioned you may be interested in speaking with us when you have some free time. It will take 10 minutes of your time which I'm certain you will want to hear more about how we can help you out. Jennifer, our owner, is well respected among our customers and has some openings today or tomorrow, what does your schedule look like? .....Thanks for taking my call I promise you will want to hear what Jennifer has to share with you.
      So...what about when you don't have a track record?

      What if you don't have a local client?

      Did you really get the referral?

      Do they have "free time" to listen to some mystery info?
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    • Profile picture of the author DPMJennifer
      Originally Posted by Shaf5280 View Post

      Below is a script that gets to the point in the 30 seconds you have to connect with the prospect. Its just one of many many ways to go about intro scripts. I'm sure others can chime in on effective scripts that worked for them as well. Hope this helps.

      Catch their attention immediately with something amazing, in this case its sales revenue.
      Name drop another local business to build trust.
      Set expectations for the appointment.
      Introduce the Owner.
      Thanks them for their time.

      Good day, is this "Prospect name"? This is so and so from XYZ media and we just helped ABC Plumbing over on 123 Main street land 3 new customers which turned into $10,000 in sales revenue in just one week. They mentioned you may be interested in speaking with us when you have some free time. It will take 10 minutes of your time which I'm certain you will want to hear more about how we can help you out. Jennifer, our owner, is well respected among our customers and has some openings today or tomorrow, what does your schedule look like? .....Thanks for taking my call I promise you will want to hear what Jennifer has to share with you.
      But what if you don't have many clients yet? We do have some but I'm not going to say that someone referred another to me if they didn't. The clients we have are in 3 different states and different towns in those states and only one has referred so far and we already took care of that referral.
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  • Profile picture of the author DPMJennifer
    I personally did try calling business owners in the beginning offering a free report to introduce them to our business. However, what I found is these guys within my niche are more matter of fact and wanted to know what my business did and what we offered. They didn't want a report they wanted me up front and to know why I was calling. So yes I have tried another avenue but found out relatively quick they just wanted straight forward info. That is why I thought more of a hook would be better. I do realize everyone has different thoughts and opinions on everything but that's why I was asking so I could get opinions. Thanks for all the help guys, I appreciate it so much
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    • Profile picture of the author misterme
      Originally Posted by DPMJennifer View Post

      I personally did try calling business owners in the beginning offering a free report to introduce them to our business. However, what I found is these guys within my niche are more matter of fact and wanted to know what my business did and what we offered. They didn't want a report they wanted me up front and to know why I was calling.
      Or another way of looking at it is, some of those you called took control of the call and you didn't know how to get it back on track.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
        Originally Posted by misterme View Post

        Or another way of looking at it is, some of those you called took control of the call and you didn't know how to get it back on track.
        That's a fair enough comment. Just out of curiosity, what would you have them say?

        Sometimes I see people drop in on a thread and make a statement like that without offering a solution. When that happens it's not always perceived as constructive criticism, only criticism, because there was no solution offered afterward.

        Know what I mean?

        If you're not willing to share your expertise, why not at least point them somewhere where they can get the information they need?
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        • Profile picture of the author misterme
          Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

          Sometimes I see people drop in on a thread and make a statement like that without offering a solution. When that happens it's not always perceived as constructive criticism, only criticism, because there was no solution offered afterward.

          Know what I mean?

          If you're not willing to share your expertise, why not at least point them somewhere where they can get the information they need?
          That's a fair enough comment. Just out of curiosity, what would you have them say?
          I wrote regarding what it seemed to me was behind when he said the people they called just went straight to the chase and his free report offer was turned on his head. So I pointed it out.

          That was me sharing my expertise.

          You think that's not valid and constructive enough without me going the extra mile to find relevant material to grab some links to cut and paste for him?

          Just giving him a heads up as to what the problem may be isn't enough?

          I'll just have to live with that. Hope I can sleep well tonight.

          Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

          Just out of curiosity, what would you have them say?
          It's not a matter of rewriting his script or having me rewrite it.

          It sounds like it's more a matter of them knowing what to do when the prospect says "what's this about, cut to the chase, I don't care about any free report, I don't have time for this, what are you selling?" That's about technique.
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          • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
            Originally Posted by misterme View Post

            That's a fair enough comment. Just out of curiosity, what would you have them say?

            I wrote regarding what it seemed to me was behind when he said the people they called just went straight to the chase and his free report offer was turned on his head. So I pointed it out.

            That was me sharing my expertise.

            You think that's not valid and constructive enough without me going the extra mile to find relevant material to grab some links to cut and paste for him?

            Just giving him a heads up as to what the problem may be isn't enough?

            It's not a matter of rewriting his script or having me rewrite it.

            It sounds like it's more a matter of them knowing what to do when the prospect says "what's this about, cut to the chase, I don't care about any free report, I don't have time for this, what are you selling?" That's about technique.
            Okay.

            As I said, without at least offering a simple solution it comes across as just being criticism. No one asked you to go cut and paste anything for her or go too much out of your way.

            You've obviously established yourself as one of the "experts" here. It just seems like if you were going to be constructive you could have added a simple "you might try this instead", "this has worked great for me", "I recommend XYZ book", etc. I doubt that it would take little if any effort for you at all.

            I see Jason, Claude and others offering suggestions all the time. Of course, they have products for sale and that requires a bit more positioning. Still, it only seems right to either help someone or don't. Don't just drop criticism on them and run without offering a solution.

            This isn't the first time I've seen you do this. That's why I said something. Everyone here was new at one time. It just seems kind of cold to treat people like that. They're obviously struggling and need some guidance. I don't know if you saw their other thread or not? If not, you missed on many of the problems they've been experiencing.

            Originally Posted by misterme View Post

            I'll just have to live with that. Hope I can sleep well tonight.
            I have no doubt that you'll sleep like a baby.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
          Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

          That's a fair enough comment. Just out of curiosity, what would you have them say?

          Sometimes I see people drop in on a thread and make a statement like that without offering a solution. When that happens it's not always perceived as constructive criticism, only criticism, because there was no solution offered afterward.

          Know what I mean?

          If you're not willing to share your expertise, why not at least point them somewhere where they can get the information they need?
          Just an FYI, the OP has been working on this for awhile. This isn't our first discussion...I believe it's the third. Hence my response post up top.

          I recognized what misterme said as a more experienced salesperson's observation of what's been happening for the OP. But saying that to the person who's new to calling probably won't have much impact, because they're looking for the perfect thing to say that will make prospects fall over and drop their wallets. They won't recognize the truth in the statement--yet.

          It's great that the OP is sticking with phone prospecting. That is definitely the way to get good at it.

          First, you are uncomfortable just making dials.

          Gatekeepers stop you.

          Then that goes away and you become tongue-tied with decision makers.

          After awhile that goes away, too.

          But having a consistent sales process is the key to success in selling. Knowing where you are, what is coming up next, being able to lead the prospect without them knowing they're being lead...
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          • Profile picture of the author DPMJennifer
            Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

            Just an FYI, the OP has been working on this for awhile. This isn't our first discussion...I believe it's the third. Hence my response post up top.

            I recognized what misterme said as a more experienced salesperson's observation of what's been happening for the OP. But saying that to the person who's new to calling probably won't have much impact, because they're looking for the perfect thing to say that will make prospects fall over and drop their wallets. They won't recognize the truth in the statement--yet.

            It's great that the OP is sticking with phone prospecting. That is definitely the way to get good at it.

            First, you are uncomfortable just making dials.

            Gatekeepers stop you.

            Then that goes away and you become tongue-tied with decision makers.

            After awhile that goes away, too.

            But having a consistent sales process is the key to success in selling. Knowing where you are, what is coming up next, being able to lead the prospect without them knowing they're being lead...
            You are correct, I have posted 3 times about prospecting and the right things to say. However, this particular script is not for me...it is for an appointment setter I am working with. I did not feel she should use the same script as what I am using because I am the business owner and use that to my advantage when I call. I have stuck to my own script with the exception of when I first started I was trying a script offering a free report. That fizzled quickly because of the fact that the gentlemen I would talk to did not want a free report, they wanted to know why I was calling and what I do. So I changed to something more direct but still along the same lines as to this one posted here. My partner and I have stuck with that and when we can actually get a DM on the phone it goes well.

            The reason I wanted some feedback on this script here is because I am not a seasoned seller and trying to "train" someone to do sales for me is not a great idea since I'm so new to it myself and really know nothing compared to others. That is why I asked for feedback. I'm not looking for a magic bullet or the perfect thing to say as I know it takes calls and experience but I don't want the girl to completely scare people off if I give her something that others know won't help.

            Thank you for your help on this, I do appreciate it.
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      • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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        "Nowadays".....prospects have been "Hit" by so many sales pitches offering This or That...etc. I learned a "remote" sales technique ("Remote" meaning NO personal visits or Phone Calls) Prospects CALL ME!

        1) I choose a potential client and go to Manta and find who the Big Boss is;
        a) Look in the phonebook to find the Big Boss's Home Address (You may not find some. If so, choose another client)
        2) Create for them, what I am selling (either the exact item or a MockUp)
        3) Make a personal PostCard (8.5 x 5.5) with the Benefits of what I've created for him...asking him to Phone ME for more info.
        4) Send the PostCard to your prospect's Home!

        I create Membership Sites where I offer biz exclusive participation in their niche. If they choose to reject my offer I tell them I will then contact a competitor.

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      • Profile picture of the author DPMJennifer
        Originally Posted by misterme View Post

        Or another way of looking at it is, some of those you called took control of the call and you didn't know how to get it back on track.
        Actually I disagree. It wasn't some of those I called, it was all the people I spoke to. Nobody wanted a free report. The guys I was getting in contact with were very matter of fact. They didn't want to beat around the bush. So I found some confidence, changed my script and became more direct about why I was calling. While both my partner and myself have had a difficult time actually speaking to people, due to the niche we chose, I do realize that our numbers are actually not that bad. Getting an appt for ever 11-20 people just starting out is not bad to me, maybe I'm wrong I don't know. But I do know the more we call the better we will do.

        The script I posted was for our appt setter, not for me or my partner. While I would love to call all day long I just don't have the time unfortunately. If you would like to offer any suggestions I would certainly appreciate your help. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesfreddyc
    Originally Posted by DPMJennifer View Post

    I personally did try calling business owners in the beginning offering a free report to introduce them to our business. However, what I found is these guys within my niche are more matter of fact and wanted to know what my business did and what we offered. They didn't want a report they wanted me up front and to know why I was calling.
    Jennifer,

    I can relate very well to this scenario as I was in this same situation. The niche I am calling into are busy office environments where absolutely no one has time to talk.

    ....So I use this as a pain point and how it aligns with my solution.

    I won't get into the details of our product (SMS Alert Messaging), but often times instead of delivering a preconceived pain point, which they may or may not have, I will key-in on their restlessness and mention quickly that we "help" them with the problem of being too busy. Definitely need to feel them out, but I am convinced that a more short and to the point message, delivered concisely and confidently, is what garners attention.

    When I drift off into too many questions-ville I can get off track and lose the call. And that happens very quickly (like you don't even notice it).

    So, when a DM is on the line I am delivering something short and to the point:

    "Hi John, Amy sounded super busy today. <you may get confirmation from this. Listen and react!>

    This is James and I am calling because my business has had a lot of success helping <niche name> offices save an average of $900 each month by reducing the time staff spends on the phone with customers. Instead of 1 call at a time, Amy can get the message to 50 customers at once.

    Do you think this is something worth talking about with me for a minute or two?"


    Bottom line: I don't get into reports or offers, I just want to:
    1. Get to deliver a 30 sec commercial and monetize the pain points.
    2. Get an appointment to demo our product or do it right then.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Originally Posted by DPMJennifer View Post



    This is Amy $&%&^% from DPM. We are a newer local business and work exclusively with skilled service businesses to make sure your business is found by new customers as well as retain current customers and get them coming back. Would you like to know more?

    I would eliminate the word "newer".
    Remove the shut down because you're new.
    Not saying you hide the fact - you just don't want to get shut down early.

    Putting myself in the shoes of a busy, multi-tasking decision maker, it's confusing
    that you would help me get found and retain current customers.
    I find myself wondering if you provide websites or some kind of consulting.
    It does not make me want me to find out more. It makes me want to leave
    because it sounds complicated, confusing, and like you're not sure about
    what you do.

    perhaps:
    "This is Amy $&%&^% from DPM. We are a local business that helps
    skilled service businesses get more new customers."
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  • Profile picture of the author RetireWithMel
    MidasMan09...I think that is a great approach. I like to use Dani Johnson's script book. They're easy to just turn into your own.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    Originally Posted by DPMJennifer View Post

    Actually I disagree. It wasn't some of those I called, it was all the people I spoke to. Nobody wanted a free report. The guys I was getting in contact with were very matter of fact. They didn't want to beat around the bush. So I found some confidence, changed my script and became more direct about why I was calling.
    So you got resistance and changed the script and became more direct and... now you're still looking for a script that gets appointments from interested people.

    Not for nothing, but that doesn't put you in any position to disagree with my assessment or anyone else's, really.

    Especially since you say you're new at this. You haven't earned the right to disagree.

    So pardon me for being more like the people you call i.e. "very matter of fact" and not wanting to "beat around the bush."

    Giving you suggestions may be a waste of time but Mr. Stewart appears to only count the posts where I don't give further advice and ignores the ones where I do and I wanna make him a happy chap. So...

    1. If the person you have calling keeps on not following your directions and what they do instead doesn't get results for you - FIRE HER.

    2. Stop being so protective over the script YOU use (the one which states you're the owner, the one you say works so well). If it's working, rewrite it so your phone person can use it.

    3. "This is Amy $&%&^% from DPM. We are a newer local business and work exclusively with skilled service businesses to make sure your business is found by new customers as well as retain current customers and get them coming back. Would you like to know more?"

    ...is in my humble opinion terribly weak and vague and tries to reach too much. Doing that practically is asking for people to say no. You have to trigger them to say yes, correct? You have to say things which builds, compounds, makes sense, sounds real and gets them wanting it.... then they're more likely to say yes to an appointment. And that could be done in two sentences.

    The conclusion I'm drawing based on what you've written about yourselves, what you've described, et al, leads me to feel the reason people were 'very matter of fact not wanting to beat around the bush not interested in your free report' was most probably because there wasn't any certainty, conviction, fire or confidence behind your delivery. They sensed it was a bill of goods - and called you on it. That's what you need to work on: the chops, probably more than the script itself.

    Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
      Misterme! You're back! I take it you slept well?

      :-)

      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      Giving you suggestions may be a waste of time but Mr. Stewart appears to only count the posts where I don't give further advice and ignores the ones where I do and I wanna make him a happy chap. So...
      In all fairness, you may be right. I was simply going by what I've seen, and not just from you either. Some people just seem to have little or no patience with newbies. I've had a tendency to stick up for the underdog, but I also understand becoming impatient when having to answer the same questions over and over. I just felt that it's unfair to give people half an answer, that's all.

      I'll scan through some of your older posts as well. I'm certain that there's value to be had.

      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      1. If the person you have calling keeps on not following your directions and what they do instead doesn't get results for you - FIRE HER.
      100% agree.

      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      2. Stop being so protective over the script YOU use (the one which states you're the owner, the one you say works so well). If it's working, rewrite it so your phone person can use it.
      Once again, 100% agree.

      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      3. "This is Amy $&%&^% from DPM. We are a newer local business and work exclusively with skilled service businesses to make sure your business is found by new customers as well as retain current customers and get them coming back. Would you like to know more?"
      No! Click...

      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      ...is in my humble opinion terribly weak and vague and tries to reach too much. Doing that practically is asking for people to say no. You have to trigger them to say yes, correct? You have to say things which builds, compounds, makes sense, sounds real and gets them wanting it.... then they're more likely to say yes to an appointment. And that could be done in two sentences.
      He's right. I'd be interested in seeing an example of it being done in two sentences, if you wouldn't mind? That could be helpful to me and others as well.

      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      The conclusion I'm drawing based on what you've written about yourselves, what you've described, et al, leads me to feel the reason people were 'very matter of fact not wanting to beat around the bush not interested in your free report' was most probably because there wasn't any certainty, conviction, fire or confidence behind your delivery. They sensed it was a bill of goods - and called you on it. That's what you need to work on: the chops, probably more than the script itself.
      He's right. THIS is constructive criticism and should be taken to heart. Of course, it's still difficult to give a 100% accurate critique without actually hearing you deliver the pitch, but I do agree with what he's saying.

      Thank you, Misterme.
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      • Profile picture of the author DPMJennifer
        Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

        Misterme! You're back! I take it you slept well?

        :-)



        In all fairness, you may be right. I was simply going by what I've seen, and not just from you either. Some people just seem to have little or no patience with newbies. I've had a tendency to stick up for the underdog, but I also understand becoming impatient when having to answer the same questions over and over. I just felt that it's unfair to give people half an answer, that's all.

        I'll scan through some of your older posts as well. I'm certain that there's value to be had.



        100% agree.



        Once again, 100% agree.



        No! Click...



        He's right. I'd be interested in seeing an example of it being done in two sentences, if you wouldn't mind? That could be helpful to me and others as well.



        He's right. THIS is constructive criticism and should be taken to heart. Of course, it's still difficult to give a 100% accurate critique without actually hearing you deliver the pitch, but I do agree with what he's saying.

        Thank you, Misterme.
        Thank you. I will take everything I learned here and apply it. Appreciate the help.
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        • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
          Originally Posted by DPMJennifer View Post

          Thank you. I will take everything I learned here and apply it. Appreciate the help.
          You're very welcome. I hope things work out for you.

          As Jason said, test your scripts and see what's working and what's not, but your appointment setter has to be using the script 100% verbatim for at least 2-3 days without straying in order to determine if it works or not. I say "2-3 days" because that was the training time that my old company set in place. They had proven scripts and people to help if needed. If you didn't make a sale in 2-3 days you were fired.

          He/She can't just make a few calls, decide she doesn't like it and start doing her own thing. Misterme is 100% correct when he says you should fire her. That's a part of doing business. You have to have thick skin. If they're not helping you earn money then they're an expense, not an asset. You need someone that's going to earn their keep and make you money. Enough said.

          Feel free to use what I wrote if you'd like. I use certain elements of that every day and it works great - for me. That's up to you.

          Come back and ask questions anytime.

          Good luck!

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    • Profile picture of the author DPMJennifer
      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      So you got resistance and changed the script and became more direct and... now you're still looking for a script that gets appointments from interested people.

      Not for nothing, but that doesn't put you in any position to disagree with my assessment or anyone else's, really.

      Especially since you say you're new at this. You haven't earned the right to disagree.

      So pardon me for being more like the people you call i.e. "very matter of fact" and not wanting to "beat around the bush."

      Giving you suggestions may be a waste of time but Mr. Stewart appears to only count the posts where I don't give further advice and ignores the ones where I do and I wanna make him a happy chap. So...

      1. If the person you have calling keeps on not following your directions and what they do instead doesn't get results for you - FIRE HER.

      2. Stop being so protective over the script YOU use (the one which states you're the owner, the one you say works so well). If it's working, rewrite it so your phone person can use it.

      3. "This is Amy $&%&^% from DPM. We are a newer local business and work exclusively with skilled service businesses to make sure your business is found by new customers as well as retain current customers and get them coming back. Would you like to know more?"

      ...is in my humble opinion terribly weak and vague and tries to reach too much. Doing that practically is asking for people to say no. You have to trigger them to say yes, correct? You have to say things which builds, compounds, makes sense, sounds real and gets them wanting it.... then they're more likely to say yes to an appointment. And that could be done in two sentences.

      The conclusion I'm drawing based on what you've written about yourselves, what you've described, et al, leads me to feel the reason people were 'very matter of fact not wanting to beat around the bush not interested in your free report' was most probably because there wasn't any certainty, conviction, fire or confidence behind your delivery. They sensed it was a bill of goods - and called you on it. That's what you need to work on: the chops, probably more than the script itself.

      Good luck.
      Wow, the first half of your post...do you really need to be so annoyed by me being new because that is the way it feels? Sorry I'm a newbie and confused but I thought that is what this forum was for. I apologize if I was wrong about that. I disagreed with you because I felt you were incorrect about one aspect. I do have a script that works for me but I didn't feel it would work for her, that is why I needed help. You are entitled to your opinion but I don't think you should be so negative to someone asking for assistance. The second half or your message was all I was looking for and what I needed to help me out and I do appreciate your help there so thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    Originally Posted by DPMJennifer View Post

    Wow, the first half of your post...do you really need to be so annoyed by me being new because that is the way it feels?
    I'm not annoyed by you being new.

    What's annoying if anything is that you're the one having issues and you're the one saying you don't know which end is up. Then I offer some insight which you don't have and could use - and you disagree with me.

    Instead you should really consider that since you're the one with the problem, that maybe the way you see your situation is the incorrect view.

    But I'm noticing several things here. And it's disturbing to me.

    One is the way you just now spinned the annoyance you sensed as about you being new.

    Then I see you write this:

    Sorry I'm a newbie and confused but I thought that is what this forum was for. I apologize if I was wrong about that.
    And that right there... that's like a victim response, you know that? That's the classic passive aggressive response.

    You're not "confused" about the forum at all, you're feigning confusion to elicit sympathy. That "I apologize if I was wrong" - I know that's you trying to manipulate me.

    I recognize that behavior. I understand you don't.

    You're only strengthening my perception that you're a person who doesn't have the mettle to deal with a push back.

    That's why so many of your calls - "all of them" I think you said - dominated you.

    That fact didn't raise a flag for anyone here but me?

    I admit that earlier I was acting a little hard on you, and for a very good reason:

    To see how you'd handle it. Because I suspected you can't.

    Now I know why.

    Maybe to get to the answer to your question, the person who should post next is the person you have working for you so that she can explain in her own words, in confidence, why she feels she needs to buck your direction and make an attempt to handle things her way instead of yours.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eddie Spangler
    Then I see you write this:

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    Sorry I'm a newbie and confused but I thought that is what this forum was for. I apologize if I was wrong about that.

    And that right there... that's like a victim response, you know that? That's the classic passive aggressive response.

    You're not "confused" about the forum at all, you're feigning confusion to elicit sympathy. That "I apologize if I was wrong" - I know that's you trying to manipulate me.

    I recognize that behavior. I understand you don't.

    You're only strengthening my perception that you're a person who doesn't have the mettle to deal with a push back.

    I admit that earlier I was acting a little hard on you, and for a very good reason:

    To see how you'd handle it. Because I suspected you can't.



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