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josh351

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Rus Sells

It's not spam as long as you clearly communicate the commercial intent of the email in the subject line AND provide an opt out link.

If you're willing to do that you should be ok.

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Rus Sells 10 years ago

Good man! Lots of people don't abide by the rules, my inbox is proof.

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10 years ago

It depends on how the email addresses were initially obtained as well. So, you are more than likely legally spamming.

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Rus Sells 10 years ago

Legally Spamming, sounds like an oxymoron to me. Spam is illegal so how can one legally do it. lol

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It depends on how the email addresses were initially obtained as well. So, you are more than likely legally spamming.
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Paul Myers

10 years ago

Russ,

You are confused, in a way that could create real problems for people.

Spam is a matter of permission. If you have it, it's not spam. If you don't, it probably is if you're sending in bulk.

The legal requirements of CAN-SPAM apply to all bulk commercial email, whether you have permission or not. And CAN-SPAM does NOT make spam illegal in the US.

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Rus Sells

10 years ago

You're response confuses me. lol Last I read, email communications to businesses require what I've noted previously and that's it from what I can tell. What am I missing exactly?

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Russ,

You are confused, in a way that could create real problems for people.

Spam is a matter of permission. If you have it, it's not spam. If you don't, it probably is if you're sending in bulk.

The legal requirements of CAN-SPAM apply to all bulk commercial email, whether you have permission or not. And CAN-SPAM does NOT make spam illegal in the US.

Paul

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Paul Myers

10 years ago

Russ,

To start with, spam is NOT illegal in the US. I don't know where people get that idea or why they keep repeating it, but it's not true.

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Rus Sells 10 years ago

*Russ goes back to read the law. LOL

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Russ,

To start with, spam is NOT illegal in the US. I don't know where people get that idea or why they keep repeating it, but it's not true.

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- drewfioravanti 10 years ago
  
  No, but it does state the rules. One of which states that you cannot harvest email addresses.
  
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  Rus Sells 10 years ago
  
  True, you'd have to buy a list that was permission based I believe.
  
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  No, but it does state the rules. One of which states that you cannot harvest email addresses.
  
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  Originally Posted by drewfioravanti
  
  No, but it does state the rules. One of which states that you cannot harvest email addresses.
  
  I don't believe that's accurate, either, unless the site has a no-harvesting notification.
  
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10 years ago

"The law provides for criminal penalties – including imprisonment – for: ...

harvesting email addresses..."

It's all here: CAN-SPAM Act: A Compliance Guide for Business | BCP Business Center

But I'm no lawyer.

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Rus Sells

10 years ago

I read that page again for like the bagillionth time, it says nothing about harvesting, but it just the guide. So hmmm.

Originally Posted by drewfioravanti

"The law provides for criminal penalties - including imprisonment - for: ...

harvesting email addresses..."

It's all here: CAN-SPAM Act: A Compliance Guide for Business | BCP Business Center

But I'm no lawyer.

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10 years ago

Q. What are the penalties for violating the CAN-SPAM Act?

A. Each separate email in violation of the law is subject to penalties of up to $16,000, and more than one person may be held responsible for violations. For example, both the company whose product is promoted in the message and the company that originated the message may be legally responsible. Email that makes misleading claims about products or services also may be subject to laws outlawing deceptive advertising, like Section 5 of the FTC Act. The CAN-SPAM Act has certain aggravated violations that may give rise to additional fines. The law provides for criminal penalties – including imprisonment – for:
accessing someone else’s computer to send spam without permission,

using false information to register for multiple email accounts or domain names,

relaying or retransmitting multiple spam messages through a computer to mislead others about the origin of the message,

harvesting email addresses or generating them through a dictionary attack (the practice of sending email to addresses made up of random letters and numbers in the hope of reaching valid ones), and

taking advantage of open relays or open proxies without permission.

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Rus Sells

10 years ago

Ah, it was under the Frequently asked questions section. Thanks!

Originally Posted by drewfioravanti

Q. What are the penalties for violating the CAN-SPAM Act?

A. Each separate email in violation of the law is subject to penalties of up to $16,000, and more than one person may be held responsible for violations. For example, both the company whose product is promoted in the message and the company that originated the message may be legally responsible. Email that makes misleading claims about products or services also may be subject to laws outlawing deceptive advertising, like Section 5 of the FTC Act. The CAN-SPAM Act has certain aggravated violations that may give rise to additional fines. The law provides for criminal penalties - including imprisonment - for:
accessing someone else's computer to send spam without permission,

using false information to register for multiple email accounts or domain names,

relaying or retransmitting multiple spam messages through a computer to mislead others about the origin of the message,

harvesting email addresses or generating them through a dictionary attack (the practice of sending email to addresses made up of random letters and numbers in the hope of reaching valid ones), and

taking advantage of open relays or open proxies without permission.

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