Should I get a job or start a business?

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I’m really sorry if I post this in the wrong section. I’m not sure whether to get a job or start my own business. It's been playing on my mind for 2 or 3 days.

I tried to start a business before but it didn’t take off. I was lazy I guess and also wasn't sure what I wanted to do in life. The problem with me is I needed a mentor or someone to kick my butt.

I finally decided to be a real estate agent in UK. I decided to get a job and I have learnt so much from this experience. I only wish I did this sooner. The problem is I only did admin stuff for a year in a busy estate agency working for free. I did all the stuff that other agents didn’t want to do and just started helping them out, just to keep my dream alive. I did this for a year and have switched jobs as a real estate agent. I got a paid a salary and a month later I got fired. The way it works in the UK is you get a base rate salary of £12,000 a year as an estate agent and 10 percent on the deal that you do. If they don't see potential in you in 1 month, then they get rid of you. They got rid of me because I didn’t hit target. It made more business sense to employ someone who would make money on day one.

There is an American company that has entered the UK and they will train me up to be a Real Estate Agent and business owner at the same time. I am very tempted as my dream is to have my own business. This will mean office expense for the training and no office unless I decide to pay for a little cheap room with phone, computer and desk. Apparently you can do everything on Ipad to start with. You also have to proactively find leads and build from scratch. There are upsides and down sides to a job and a business.

I don't have the selling skills but I know how to get the selling skills because of the experienced I gained in that 1 month. My heart is telling me to be a business owner and I head is telling me to get more experience first.

Do you think I should just start a business or continue to get more experience in a job first?

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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Do you have cash in the bank to survive without income for awhile?

    If not, get the job.

    You can always run your own biz part time to get started.

    Without selling skills, you're going to have a rough time.

    I think you know what to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author newbie_ken
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      Do you have cash in the bank to survive without income for awhile?

      If not, get the job.

      You can always run your own biz part time to get started.

      Without selling skills, you're going to have a rough time.

      I think you know what to do.
      My dad has given me, my brother and sister some property. I have a lot of cashflow which more than makes up for the business. I worked it out, even if I ran my business full time. I will still have a good amount of money coming in from my rentals. I also have cash in the bank that could last me over 2 years.

      I really want to do this as low cost as possible. My goal is to get a sales job but I don't think anyone would hire me unless they can see some results fast. I know I can make it and get really good but it will take me a bit of time. I have no fear when it comes to picking up the phone or door to door but understanding it all will take a bit of time for me. 100 calls a day is not even a problem.

      My end goal is to have a REAL ESTATE AGENCY BUSINESS. I know this is an internet marketing forum but there is so much good advice on here . What I'm wondering is should I start now or should I wait a bit?
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by newbie_ken View Post

        My dad has given me, my brother and sister some property. I have a lot of cashflow which more than makes up for the business. I worked it out, even if I ran my business full time. I will still have a good amount of money coming in from my rentals. I also have cash in the bank that could last me over 2 years.

        I really want to do this as low cost as possible. My goal is to get a sales job but I don’t think anyone would hire me unless they can see some results fast. I know I can make it and get really good but it will take me a bit of time. I have no fear when it comes to picking up the phone or door to door but understanding it all will take a bit of time for me. 100 calls a day is not even a problem.

        My end goal is to have a REAL ESTATE AGENCY BUSINESS. I know this is an internet marketing forum but there is so much good advice on here . What I’m wondering is should I start now or should I wait a bit?
        I'm not sure this will apply to you, but I see people with money..start a business. If you aren't prepared (and a month of anything isn't being prepared), your new "business" will eat up any income from other sources.

        My suggestion? Work for someone else until you know the business, then go out on your own. What if, after a few months, you decide you don't like this? Will you quit? How much money did that cost you?

        Don't start a business, until you know the business. It's the smartest way, I find.

        Why? Because the first year, everything you do turns to crap. And everything you do, is a mistake. Better for you to get that out of your system, before you invest money.

        The best way to lose everything youi already have, is to start a new business...without knowing what you are doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author momo1978
    hello there,

    Not to jack the thread but i want to tell you, you are not alone; we are in the same boat. I just got laid off from my corporate bank job that i worked for 6 Plus years along with other 70 people 2 weeks ago. i've been lurking around here since 2011 and i tried to start my internet business but i wasn't able to generate anything except from Ebay but its not enough to live off. I'm also the type that needs a mentor to teach me 1 on 1 and be on me to implement ideas and put some action. That being said if you have money to survive during that hit, great but you should look into doing something with your time until you find a job or until; your business takes off cuz this money will run out sooner or later if there is no consistent income coming in. Good luck to you and i hope we both can be working soon or making money online and transform it to a business.

    cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author internetmarketer1
    It is highly recommended to get a job if you don't have the money to rely on your business. I've seen some people have thousands of dollars to invest in their Internet marketing ventures, but then they lost it all because of buying random tools and not knowing what they were doing.

    If you have a good amount of money saved up that can keep you living for the next several weeks, then you may not need a job. However, if not, grab a job and build your online business afterwards. You could save up your money from your work and use that money to help fund your business.

    I would highly recommend getting a job first and working on your biz on the side.
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  • Profile picture of the author DaniMc
    Get a job. Seriously. Get a job.

    If I have learned one thing it is to only play games that you are certain you can win.

    Only take risks you KNOW you can overcome.

    Only try something when you are SURE you can make it happen.

    Entrepreneurs who succeed are NOT foolish risk takers.

    Get a job - only go on your own when you KNOW EXACTLY where your money will come from and you KNOW EXACTLY how you will get it. This is no time for guessing.

    If you are guessing whether you should get a job or start a business - GET A JOB.

    Only leave your job when you can say "Look, there is a pile of money and I know EXACTLY how to get it."
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Lessard
    Why is this a choice between one and the other?
    Have a job AND start your own business if you have the energy.
    When the income from the business is sustainable and sufficient ditch the job.

    You should also seriously consider other ways to own a business other than real estate.
    If you do not have a pitbull attitude and tons of get up and go real estate may not be for you
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    there is nothing wrong with that!

    I was an utter failure in some sales channels when I was younger and absolutely successful in others. It just has to be a good fit and the correct time. If I don't love what I do I suck at it!

    Also I hear tons of talk here about needing mentors and then see tons of offers for paid mentors.

    I would remind you that paid mentors or even mentors that are still alive are not a necessity.
    I have a stable of books I read that keep me motivated from authors like Napoleon Hill.
    Many times in my life I have gone to work for or near someone that I knew I would learn from.
    Once I moved my cubicle spot to just outside the owner of a building I was renting space in because he talked loud and kept his door open. I learned more in a year hearing him negotiate and sell than anything I ever learned in school and this is while I ran my own business from that cubicle.

    Also before anyone jumps on me I am NOT suggesting that paying a great mentor is bad.
    I would pay for phone mentoring from several people on this forum such as ewenmack.
    If I was broke I would spend a day reading his posts and many others on here that I respect.

    I would also point out that there is a HUGE difference between taking the time to find and harness your internal motivators and having someone mentor you in business.

    Once in my life due to a major life event I was really really down and that is rare as I am a naturally aggressive guy. When that happened a friend and mentor told me to go walk through a graveyard for the afternoon if I wanted to sit around and feel sorry for myself. I did. It reminded me life is short. We live life for experiences and they are limited. Waiting is NOT an option. Find your internal motivators. I visualize. When my kids were younger and I was trying to close a deal I would imagine a hand coming across the table and removing the plate of food from in front of my kids and I was the only one that could stop it. EVERYONE has triggers, find yours, make them stronger, keep them in the front of your mind through some ritual. It can change your life!
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    • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
      Originally Posted by plessard View Post

      I would pay for phone mentoring from several people on this forum such as ewenmack.
      If I was broke I would spend a day reading his posts and many others on here that I respect.
      Thank you for the mention Peter.

      Best,
      Ewen
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Lessard
    You stated "My end goal is to have a REAL ESTATE AGENCY BUSINESS"
    Why?
    Do you know anyone that has achieved this and know intimately what there life is like because of it? It seems your motivation is more than just money since you have some money and cash flow so I would encourage you to crystallize in your mind what this really means to you. If doing that does NOT give you the motivation to go for it then it is either the wrong dream or you need more time to explore your direction and motivations.

    Since you have some money now the tune in this thread may change to "just go for it" BUT there is more at stake than money depending on your motivations. Will you feel like an utter failure if you do not get a certain result. Will it impact your relationships? Do you have a support system and are they with you?

    When I completely changed who I was some 15 years ago and decided to pursue what I wanted everything else in my life changed including friends and my significant other. There is so much more to consider than just the money and it is so very difficult for the recommendations you will get to mean anything from strangers that do not know your circumstances, emotions and inner circle.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brandon Lukas
    The best advice I can give you is NEVER second guess yourself.

    I think you should do both and then transition. That's exactly what I did.

    One major tip I'll give you though... Treat it like a business not a hobby, and don't half ass it either.

    Whatever industry or niche you get into, find the top 5 leaders and see what they're doing, and talking about.

    Give value to your marketplace, and you can do that being a newbie by modeling after one of the five top people in the industry....

    Learn, Implement, Teach... Repeat

    And... TAKE MASSIVE ACTION!
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  • Profile picture of the author internetmarketer1
    Take Massive Action!

    Taking massive action is the key to any business, but it rings very true to offline marketing.

    I find that offline marketing is not the easiest business to be in if you aren't prepared to put in the time to build a real business. Taking action is the key. Like one person on here said, you need to be prepared to know what you are selling and what services you are going to deliver so you can give it to clients successfully.

    Understand that this business requires a lot of organizing.

    Whether your get a job or not, you still need to be super organized to succeed.
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    • Profile picture of the author TurnKeyShane
      If you have the income to replace what you had, the knowledge, and the contacts to run a real estate agency then go for it. Otherwise if you lack the knowledge and contacts that make up a successful real estate agency then I suggest you go work for a real estate agency that is successful, find out what makes them successful, then open your own after you have had some time to develop your own contacts, team, and clients while learning.
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  • Profile picture of the author internetmarketer1
    Entrepreneurs who succeed are NOT foolish risk takers.

    Get a job - only go on your own when you KNOW EXACTLY where your money will come from and you KNOW EXACTLY how you will get it. This is no time for guessing.
    Just wanted to reply to this because I didn't see it earlier.

    I agree with the aspect that most entrepreneurs aren't risk takers where they don't know where they are heading. They know exactly where they are going and what they will try to achieve. They know what business they are going to be in and how they will go about making that cash. That's the way it is.

    If you don't have the income to live a normal life, stick to a job while making money offline on the side.
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  • Profile picture of the author themusiccoach
    I agree mostly. The smartest people mitigate risk as much as possible but sometimes you have to go live without a net. Ultimately, this is a call only your heart can answer. I think opinion will run about 90/10 to keep working and building on the side even if you do have cash. From experience I can tell you that money you would not think could be spent in 2 lifetimes can fly by you in a year.

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  • Profile picture of the author st0nec0ld
    I suggest you get a job, save, invest and establish a business.
    Create a plan, a goal and work on it. Think of possibilities. Don't be afraid to fail, it is part of the cycle, you'll learn from it, you'll learn from experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author LouiGeeinMD
    Do you have an amount of money which you can use for yourself to survive for a year? If you don't have, then just go to work. While working, learn the business that you want and acquire the skills you need to sell your products and services.
    When the time comes that you have grown your business, you can outsource some of the tasks and concentrate on customer acquisition.
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  • Profile picture of the author cindypark
    Originally Posted by newbie_ken View Post

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    I'm really sorry if I post this in the wrong section. I'm not sure whether to get a job or start my own business. It's been playing on my mind for 2 or 3 days.

    I tried to start a business before but it didn't take off. I was lazy I guess and also wasn't sure what I wanted to do in life. The problem with me is I needed a mentor or someone to kick my butt.

    I finally decided to be a real estate agent in UK. I decided to get a job and I have learnt so much from this experience. I only wish I did this sooner. The problem is I only did admin stuff for a year in a busy estate agency working for free. I did all the stuff that other agents didn't want to do and just started helping them out, just to keep my dream alive. I did this for a year and have switched jobs as a real estate agent. I got a paid a salary and a month later I got fired. The way it works in the UK is you get a base rate salary of £12,000 a year as an estate agent and 10 percent on the deal that you do. If they don't see potential in you in 1 month, then they get rid of you. They got rid of me because I didn't hit target. It made more business sense to employ someone who would make money on day one.

    There is an American company that has entered the UK and they will train me up to be a Real Estate Agent and business owner at the same time. I am very tempted as my dream is to have my own business. This will mean office expense for the training and no office unless I decide to pay for a little cheap room with phone, computer and desk. Apparently you can do everything on Ipad to start with. You also have to proactively find leads and build from scratch. There are upsides and down sides to a job and a business.

    I don't have the selling skills but I know how to get the selling skills because of the experienced I gained in that 1 month. My heart is telling me to be a business owner and I head is telling me to get more experience first.

    Do you think I should just start a business or continue to get more experience in a job first?

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    if you have enough money to survive while not earning on your business then go for business.but if you dont have money while testing your business then apply for a job first and save money for the future
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  • Profile picture of the author KloudStrife
    You should open your business if you have money to invest and your absolutely sure you can make a good return.

    If you don't have the money to invest in a business right now, try getting into a job and making a stable salary before you become a business owner

    Personally, I would just start a business and roll with it, see if it floats or not (with money invested of course)

    otherwise if you have no money to invest don't jump into business ownership just yet
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    • Profile picture of the author newbie_ken
      Just to let every one know, I have found a job. Thank you for all the advice. Its been a great help
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  • Profile picture of the author petermei
    Working in other company will help you to learn new things easilly with causing less risks
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