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Quickly:
  • I'm a Digital Marketing Professional
  • Recently laid off

Obviously back in the hunt for a new position, but after spending the majority of my Warrior time reading in the Offline section I'm going to give consulting a go as well.

I've read plenty of posts asking for what works, how much to charge, what products or services -I'm not looking for this type of help.

Let me preface by saying I've spent a significant amount of time on Google, searching this and other forums -I'm not expecting someone to spoon-feed me a roadmap to success. I don't have contacts currently consulting so can't reach out for information.

Question
Is there a course, or more to the point an outline available that provides EX: Steps 1-5 to get yourself set up for success? I TOTALLY understand finding what a client needs help with is more of a plan than figuring out how to sell a service or product. I'm more looking for "I did this, then this, and lastly this in this exact order before I called on my my first prospect.

Thanks in advance for taking the time to assist a newbie.
#consulting #offline #plan #setup
  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Doud
    Let me give you the basic steps for free

    1. Find something that
    • You are Good at
    • People will pay you for
    • Can be turned into a business not just a job (aka you can hire people to do it)
    2. Create a pricing structure for said good or service

    3. Sell said good or service based on how you sell best.

    • Good in person: Cold Walk
    • Good on phone: Cold Call
    • Good with marketing: Use targeted marketing online and direct mail to get them to call you
    4. Produce what you sell


    5. Tweak till it works and then continue to tweak



    6. Hire people to produce, sell, and etc
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    • Profile picture of the author Joel
      #1 - Find a 'hungry' market.
      #2 - Find a product or service to sell them.
      #3 - Set up a system to sell them.

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  • Profile picture of the author isaacsmithjones
    It seems like you already know everything that you need to.

    It looks as though it is more fear that is stopping you, rather than a lack of knowledge. Perhaps it's fear of rejection when you're selling, or a fear of embarrassment if it doesn't work out.

    Don't wait until you know everything, or until you have the perfect system before you start selling yourself.

    You've already worked in the industry, and your previous employer paid you THOUSANDS each year to do what you were doing. So you already know that your knowledge is worth AT LEAST your old wage.

    Just start contacting people, and listening to their problems. Then prescribe your solution.

    But if you're looking for specific steps, Aaron has already laid them out for you.

    But I urge you to get started. I can't say this too many times. Get started before you lose momentum. Don't keep waiting and tweaking before your "big launch", because if you do, it will never come.

    Good luck on your new venture.
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    • Profile picture of the author savidge4
      I am going to be the harsh voice of reality here.

      You will never succeed as a contractor. Look atwhat you are saying and the questions you are asking. you want to A be told what to do, or B learn what to do. you want a preset path... You have what I call a "Employees Mentality" And please, don't get me wrong.. there is absolutely nothing wrong with this. You just need to understand where you are at.

      There is an answer to this. Get a partner. it sounds like once you have a task in front of you, you know what to do. All you need Is the work in front of you. Get a partner to do just that. put the work in front of you.

      It is a win win for both parties. the person you partner with may not have the technical skills you do, and you dont have the selling skills they have. Decent to good sales people are maybe not dime a dozen, but you can find someone. More than likely you know someone already!

      If I were you, and at one point in my career I was, I would get a partner!

      Hope that Helps!
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      • Profile picture of the author isaacsmithjones
        Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

        I am going to be the harsh voice of reality here.

        You will never succeed as a contractor. Look atwhat you are saying and the questions you are asking. you want to A be told what to do, or B learn what to do. you want a preset path... You have what I call a "Employees Mentality" And please, don't get me wrong.. there is absolutely nothing wrong with this. You just need to understand where you are at.

        There is an answer to this. Get a partner. it sounds like once you have a task in front of you, you know what to do. All you need Is the work in front of you. Get a partner to do just that. put the work in front of you.

        It is a win win for both parties. the person you partner with may not have the technical skills you do, and you dont have the selling skills they have. Decent to good sales people are maybe not dime a dozen, but you can find someone. More than likely you know someone already!

        If I were you, and at one point in my career I was, I would get a partner!

        Hope that Helps!
        I would have to agree... This isn't meant to be harsh, but it certainly seems like something's holding you back from just getting stuck in. And perhaps it is indeed "Employees Mentality".
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        • Profile picture of the author DigitalGuy23
          I appreciate the advice so far.

          Thanks for taking the time to comment.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ms Psyren
    Originally Posted by DigitalGuy23 View Post

    Question
    Is there a course, or more to the point an outline available that provides EX: Steps 1-5 to get yourself set up for success? I TOTALLY understand finding what a client needs help with is more of a plan than figuring out how to sell a service or product. I'm more looking for "I did this, then this, and lastly this in this exact order before I called on my my first prospect.
    Hi, DigitalGuy23! I'm sure you probably don't need any people trying to psychoanalyze you but from your post it's a possibility that you think somewhat as I did. If that's the case, hopefully I can offer some "juicy crumbs." Just before I got started Offline, after months *cough*years*cough* of lurking around the warrior forum, buying a bunch of "stuff" and becoming well acquainted with pages 1 through 176 of Google's search results for all the typical offline keywords, I felt I was finally ready to take "the plunge!" But before I felt comfortable enough to put myself vulnerably out there, what I desperately needed was someone to help me organize all the information I had compiled in the Offline section of my "memory warehouse."

    I had all/most of the personal qualities and information necessary but I felt like I needed that outline in order to be confident in the fact that I was starting off with my best possible foot forward and, most of all, taking my first steps in the right direction. Especially since (in my opinion, at least) my first impressions, reputation, business, my future client's businesses, livelihood, and seemingly SURVIVAL was all at stake and would be greatly impacted by the steps, preparation, and direction I took before even contacting my first prospect.

    So, unfortunately I don't know of any courses that has an outline to serve that purpose offhand. However, I can share with you some things that helped me straighten out the clutter.

    Step 1: Mentality (of course!)

    A.) First of all: Know thyself.
    Are you a business person at heart? How do you compare to the typical entrepreneur? Many similarities? Do you have incredible value to offer? If not, could you? Could you eliminate your fears enough to really offer someone the incredible value you have. What are your fears? Your weaknesses? Where are the holes that could cause your ship to sink? Do you really have an employee mindset or not? If so, what would it take to flip the switch over to business owner thinking?

    I've learned that in business it pays to be introspective. Study yourself like you study your clients, market, and industry, if not more. That way, you can thwart any self sabotage and see where you need improvement before it takes you down. Being fully honest and realistic with yourself will help tremendously, save you a lot of headache, and may make the difference between success and failure.

    B.) Positive Thinking typically is a good thing. Check the Mind Warriors section. You'll find testimonials to that fact a'plenty! Are you confident in what you have to offer? Do you believe success is inevitable as long as you put your mind, heart, and energy into it, in an intelligent way, without quitting? Or do you believe the "harsh voice of reality" that says you'll never make it on your own because being an entrepreneur just isn't for you? Either one could be right but it is entirely up to you. I'm not fond of absolutes. No one can tell you that you absolutely will or absolutely won't make it. But like I said, be honest with yourself. If after much introspection and deliberation, offline marketing just isn't for you, don't be afraid to think positively in a new direction.

    Step 2: Who are you offering your services to?

    There are 3 main ways to niche down offline marketing:
    Industry. Locality. Both.
    In the beginning:
    A.) Choose any industry that suits the person you are.
    B.) Choose any location where you feel you could best benefit the people, near or far.
    C.) Choose any combination thereof.
    Figure out the niche you could have the most impact in and go for it! Then later you can consider niches that you are not as familiar with now.

    Step 3: What do you have to offer?

    Offer what you're good at. Don't just offer SEO/websites/social media/consulting, etc. because everyone says it's the most lucrative way. How much do you know about it? Could you learn more? What does your market really need?

    Step 4: How are you going to offer it?

    Your Business Strategy is very important. You have to come up with at least a rudimentary system before you contact your first prospect.
    A.) Are you an extrovert that loves beating the pavement or hours of cold-calls? Or are you the type that would prefer much less personal methods of contact like webinars, email, etc. Figure out the best combination for you between what's most comfortable and whats most profitable. Either method can succeed if you work at it but what helped me was coming up with a hybrid of introvert/extrovert tactics.
    B.) Sales - Figure out how you will handle Prospecting, Proposals, Pricing, Negotiating, Follow-up, & Closing
    C.) Fulfillment - How will you handle Customer Support and Retention
    D.) Back-office - And don't forget about Accounting, Billing and Reporting.
    E.) Also consider outsourcing or hiring sales people or appointment setters. You have to find new leads, follow-up with them, try to close them on your services, and so much more. On top of that, you have to actually service the clients you already have. Outsourcing some of your duties will save you time and energy, fill in any gaps you have in your qualifications/comfort level, and also make you money.

    Step 5: Get Coaching.

    There is a lot of free information and information products on the internet about how to be successful. However, the best investment you can make into your business is Coaching. Especially in the beginning. Seek out great offline professionals either in your local area or online who are willing to help. They can take you by the had and lead you down the path to success instead of just giving you one-off directions that are subject to change.

    Two of the guys who really helped me with consulting were Lee McIntyre at GetMoreMomentum.com and Michael Zipursky with ConsultingSuccess.com. I'm not affiliated with them but they do give amazing information. (On second thought, BRB while I go see if they have an affiliate program LOL )

    Step 6: Act.

    All the information, direction, and planning won't mean a thing if you don't TAKE ACTION. Once you have the BASICS of the other steps figured out, find a way that you can act on the knowledge you have in the shortest possible time frame.

    I'm a planner. I love to strategically plan my moves and I typically hate to take massive action without COMPLETE and thorough preparation. However, if you have this predilection it can cause severe glue-footedness. Don't let it stop you. Decide. Act. Profit. That's the best direction I can give you.

    Hope this helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author coloma21
    Learn how to master the art of prospecting, qualifying, pitching, and closing.. then you can figure out what to sell.. if you don't have those systems down, then you don't have a business... you'll find a few wso that can probaby help you.. but instead, i suggest you hire a coach... although expensive, you'll save years of headaches... trust me..
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    1) Start in industries you are most familiar with.
    (It would be unprofessional and maybe costly to break a rule or law
    in a regulated industry such as real estate or insurance or law.)

    2) Offer the services and consulting you know the most about.
    You can expand your knowledge and offers as you grow - or know who to
    partner with or refer to. (I do mean really KNOW how good they are
    and be able to tell if they are trying to pull the wool over your eyes.)

    3) Consider working for free, low pay ,or maybe regular pay
    for someone who is doing what you want to do. Learn the
    business development and best practices for six months to a year.
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  • Profile picture of the author partyfavor
    great advice here!
    I do think you have the skills to succeed as a consultant, and I also agree with some of the comments that you should break away from the employee mentality and start going entrepreneur. It's a scary thing! Being totally in control and responsible for your own biz (rather than someone giving you the task and you flourish) but amazing when you start to see and feel the lifestyle kick in.

    I was in the nightclub marketing biz for years as a hired marketing manager/promoter, then decided working for one club wasn't for me, so I branched off and started my own consulting business and now have multiple club and bar clients coaching their teams on event marketing, proper use of digital tools, and servicing their promotion needs. waaaaaaay better this way since I am more in control and can add and remove clients as I see fit (no more worry about 'losing my job').

    Keep at it and great work starting to learn the ways.
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    • Profile picture of the author Underground
      Far from never making it, seeking out the knowledge about the underpinnings of how to set up a proper business from start to finish shows a rare intelligence and commitment to building something of real value and quality. I assume that is the case?

      I learned early on that the business education you can expect to get here is virtually non-existent. Many think you just find something you can sell, throw up a website, find some suspects and start pitching them.

      That seems to be the be all and end all of business as taught here. It's very hard if you are seeking to set up something legitimate and long-term to learn how to do so in the IM and information marketing world. Because it's just not in their interest to go through the massive amount of labour to teach you everything you need to do to create a business that creates and keeps customers. Far better to package their products piece by piece, touting them as complete solutions, when they are far from that.

      You could to go through thousands of hours or seminars, ebooks, courses and then try to piece together the individual constituents to fill in the details and still be left short and in the dark.

      But, and you'll be in a bad position if you ignore this recommendation unless you fork out thousands for a coach, there is a resource that will save you years of trying to find all the answers yourself. A book and an accompanying series of workbooks that are just a work of a marketing genius, which are way more indepth and all-encompassing than any of the many $2500-5000 plus seminars from all the gurus combined.

      It's called Watertight Marketing by Byrony Thomas. If you read the book to understand the methodology, which you can pick up for around 7 dollars on Kindle, which then gives you access to the workbooks, you'll have an unbeatable education on structuring, operating and marketing your business and on retaining customers and keeping them happy. And you can print out the work books and fill them out, and will have a completely systemized working procedures manual that will help you, and people you take on board, have absolute clarity about what you do and how to best explain that to customers in ways they want.


      It's going to take work and a few weeks of effort but I promise you, after going through every top guru course on marketing out there (or their best of the best offerings if not having gone through all of them), you will not find anything better than this. You could build a really great digital media company with your background and knowing what works to create great products and services, and this book will give you a massive short-cut to success.

      You don't need to figure it out yourself. But even trying to find the best methods and resources from a 1000's different sources is going to waste months and years. Some people never get it.

      Here's a look at the second work book. A lot of things may not be relevant right now in the book. But if you intend to build a business that charges big fees and works with higher-end clients you'll need to get the main book and go through the manuals.

      http://watertightmarketing.com/wp-co...T-V2-Sep13.pdf
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      • Profile picture of the author DigitalGuy23
        I didn't summarize my end goal well enough in my post and left out I will still be interviewing for employment, in addition to developing an offline business, because I'm not in position to dive in 100%. I've seen too many posts on WF where people say "should I get a job or try and make it without one".

        I was hoping to omit the standard "get a job while you try and make it on your own" response -I wanted a little more than that fall back reply.

        I appreciate all the comments -I've had the entrepreneur part needed and with a couple months to tackle it right now I wanted to ensure I was setup from a structure standpoint.

        P.S. trying to build up enough posts to Thank people that have commented.
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  • Profile picture of the author DigitalGuy23
    Thanks Ms Psyren.
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