Are objection handling skills the key to sales success?

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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    No. The key to sales success is presenting to people who won't give you objections.
    This Forum has several Threads of how to answer objections, and they are all great reads. But Qualifying is the key.

    Being in front of the right person, is the key.
    Objections are the way the prospect tells you that you screwed up.
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    • Profile picture of the author Peter Lessard
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      Objections are the way the prospect tells you that you screwed up.
      Such a true statement!
      If I get objections today I think two things.
      1. What broke in my funnel? How the hell did this person get in front of me/one phone with me?
      2. Why did this person ignore/not bother reviewing the information before we talked?

      I have even gone to the extent of recapping what I was and was not offering in a reminder email before our chat.

      Generally if someone is not on the same page now it is because they have decided they are going to sell me lol

      Conversation starts like "Peter, we are excited to work with you and to prove it we want to present you with a great opportunity." Next few minutes is about them trying to convince me to work for future profit share lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      No. The key to sales success is presenting to people who won't give you objections.
      This Forum has several Threads of how to answer objections, and they are all great reads. But Qualifying is the key.

      Being in front of the right person, is the key.
      Objections are the way the prospect tells you that you screwed up.
      I started typing an answer when this was first posted...and then closed the window because it's been talked to death. Frankly, I got bored.

      What is the OP's point? What do you want to find out, dreamer? You don't have a sig, so you're doing more than just producing fluff. Did someone tell you this was the key to doing well in sales? Usually posts have more depth than a single sentence.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        The first 25 years or so, selling in people's homes, I concentrated on answering objections and closing. It worked well enough. But I sold because I wore the prospect out. And it wore me out too.

        When I speak to groups of salespeople, I'll adress the qustion abou objections this way;

        'Think of the last expensive thing you bought, that you like. It can be a car, a home, a toy, anything. Picture the discussion you had with the salesperson.....

        Now...how many objections did you bring up before you bought. Raise your hands. How many had 5 or more objections? Anyone? Three? One? (a few hands go up). Most people had no objections, or one".

        My question is "What are you saying to that prospect that is causing them to object to buying?"

        In the last 15 years or so, I've closed perhaps 2,000 higher end sales. All of them required either one answer to an objection (usually just a stall for a little breathing room) or no objections.

        Who in the world objects to buying something they want?
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        • I remember sales mgr's and ownership training me as a salesperson, that "objections are good"

          I went along with it for a while.

          then I began to consider the "lay down sale"

          How can objections be good, when a lay down sale happens without them?

          And, every salesperson wants more laydowns!!!

          maybe it's the sales bravado of " I can sell ice to Eskimos".,
          as well as out dated sales training.

          maybe the OP can look up spin selling and the idea of Objection Prevention.

          I know this is dated, but claude has been in more homes, selling at the kitchen table more than Mrs. Folgers.


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          • Profile picture of the author misterme
            Originally Posted by kirbymarketingconcierge View Post

            I remember sales mgr's and ownership training me as a salesperson, that "objections are good"
            Yep. And I suspect they say things like that because they don't train their sales teams well and then their sales people keep getting objections and they'd quit - unless someone tells them "oh no, no, no, don't quit - no means yes and they really want to buy when they object like that."

            Either that or they drank the kool-aid too that says "when a prospects objects what they're actually saying is 'I'm not convinced... Yet. Tell me more.'" So they pass that nugget onto their sales team.

            Naturally this must be so thinks the sales team! Because of course when, for example, a guy meets someone he finds attractive and wants to get to know better, looks to know more about this possible new love interest - he raises objections about going out with her. In fact, refuses to to do it. Says he has to take time now to carefully think this over. Right?

            Oh wait, that's not what happens at all.
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            • had a prospect last month tell me they use a million dollar sales script!!

              when I saw it, from my own experience, I could date it back the the 1980's

              maybe worth a million then, but not now.

              old sales dogs that can't or won't learn new tricks ...and be more successful to boot.

              hire in masses,

              train in classes (use the script because it's worked for the past 30 years)

              , and kick um out on their asses
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              • Profile picture of the author helisell
                Originally Posted by kirbymarketingconcierge View Post

                had a prospect last month tell me they use a million dollar sales script!!

                ........hire in masses,

                train in classes (use the script because it's worked for the past 30 years)

                , and kick um out on their asses
                I love this.....that is what it used to be like before we had 'interweb'
                but long outdated now.

                Takes me back a few years though....and millions were made this way for sure
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              • Profile picture of the author savidge4
                When I am making a sales presentation the only objection I want to hear is mine. turning the client down because they are not a good fit. I personally will answer objections to a point, as in maybe 1. you want what I offer or you don't. and the moment they are objecting, well they have yet to reach the tipping point. <-- love this term

                I as politely as possible hand the client my business card and ask that when they are ready to make a decision to give me a call.

                I will say that over time I have developed sales funnels that pretty much remove the objection process. When I make a cold walk in for a new client, I generally will not even think of a sale the first visit, its about creating the thought, and checking for fit. It may be visit 3 and 4 or 15 in some cases that the idea of a sale takes place.

                With my online avenues. I pretty much am as transparent as possible. I about have my online sales pitch down enough that I am really thinking of incorporating online purchase and payment ( my short term goal at this point )

                The more informed your prospect is of what it is you do, the less objection there will be. It does not have to be information that you have provided, but that is always an added bonus.

                I see this most in my Satellite Business. Once a week, usually Saturday afternoons, my guys and I will do some cold calling. (h elps to fill in some blank spots in next weeks schedule ) I will get a list that is determined by geographics, So I know who I am calling does not have access to lined internet. My targeted list of prospects have either looked at a Satellite Internet service, know someone that has it, OR already have it. NO ONE asks "whats that?" It comes down to no not interested, or whats the price? I ask a few match questions, and then sell the product that is the best match.

                In any given phone session we might make 100 calls between 4 of us. Generally speaking we will each pull a sale out of the effort. so 4 sales out of 100 calls. Last Saturday we pulled down 10 sales... it was pretty awesome!
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                • Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

                  When I am making a sales presentation the only objection I want to hear is mine. turning the client down because they are not a good fit. I personally will answer objections to a point, as in maybe 1. you want what I offer or you don't. and the moment they are objecting, well they have yet to reach the tipping point. <-- love this term

                  I as politely as possible hand the client my business card and ask that when they are ready to make a decision to give me a call.

                  I will say that over time I have developed sales funnels that pretty much remove the objection process. When I make a cold walk in for a new client, I generally will not even think of a sale the first visit, its about creating the thought, and checking for fit. It may be visit 3 and 4 or 15 in some cases that the idea of a sale takes place.

                  With my online avenues. I pretty much am as transparent as possible. I about have my online sales pitch down enough that I am really thinking of incorporating online purchase and payment ( my short term goal at this point )

                  The more informed your prospect is of what it is you do, the less objection there will be. It does not have to be information that you have provided, but that is always an added bonus.

                  I see this most in my Satellite Business. Once a week, usually Saturday afternoons, my guys and I will do some cold calling. (h elps to fill in some blank spots in next weeks schedule ) I will get a list that is determined by geographics, So I know who I am calling does not have access to lined internet. My targeted list of prospects have either looked at a Satellite Internet service, know someone that has it, OR already have it. NO ONE asks "whats that?" It comes down to no not interested, or whats the price? I ask a few match questions, and then sell the product that is the best match.

                  In any given phone session we might make 100 calls between 4 of us. Generally speaking we will each pull a sale out of the effort. so 4 sales out of 100 calls. Last Saturday we pulled down 10 sales... it was pretty awesome!
                  " When I am making a sales presentation the only objection I want to hear is mine. "

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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by misterme View Post

              Either that or they drank the kool-aid too that says "when a prospects objects what they're actually saying is 'I'm not convinced... Yet. Tell me more.'" So they pass that nugget onto their sales team.
              I've read in lots of sales books that "No means they are interested. They wouldn't object unless they were interested".

              From a certain point of view, I guess that makes sense. And I used to sell that way.

              I think those techniques would still work today. It's that they didn't work all that well 30 years ago, but that's all we knew.

              And it's easier to teach "adversarial selling". It's easier to learn. And it works often enough to keep some companies in business. But it's soooo....freaking....unpleasant...for everyone involved.

              What amazes me is that I see perfectly fine products...truly phenomenal offers...being pitched as though they are a scam. And that's what this type of selling is like. You are actually making a great offer...harder to sell. And you're making it harder to buy.

              Honestly, it took me 30 years or so to slowly make the change to consultive selling. Learning about marketing, and then incorporating those principles into selling, really helped. And the fact that I have no sense of loyalty to any one method.

              How Misterme, Jake, Plessard, Jason, Dan and a few others figured it out, I have no idea.
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              • Profile picture of the author savidge4
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                I've read in lots of sales books that "No means they are interested. They wouldn't object unless they were interested".

                From a certain point of view, I guess that makes sense. And I used to sell that way.

                I think those techniques would still work today. It's that they didn't work all that well 30 years ago, but that's all we knew.

                And it's easier to teach "adversarial selling". It's easier to learn. And it works often enough to keep some companies in business. But it's soooo....freaking....unpleasant...for everyone involved.

                What amazes me is that I see perfectly fine products...truly phenomenal offers...being pitched as though they are a scam. And that's what this type of selling is like. You are actually making a great offer...harder to sell. And you're making it harder to buy.

                Honestly, it took me 30 years or so to slowly make the change to consultive selling. Learning about marketing, and then incorporating those principles into selling, really helped. And the fact that I have no sense of loyalty to any one method.

                How Misterme, Jake, Plessard, Jason, Dan and a few others figured it out, I have no idea.
                "Consulative Selling" Five Tips & Examples For Consultative Selling A good read for those that may not be familiar with the term.

                I was raised in the arms of the largest Family owned print shop West of the Mississippi. At a very young age my StepFather would read Sales Books to me. ( I think he was more reading aloud for himself, and I was the excuse ) The point being I grew up with the principles of design and sales coming at me at every which direction.

                The first book that I was ever required to read was "How to Win Friends and Influence People." I personally would rank this to be one of the most profound Sales books ever, if not one of the most profound books ever period. "You can make more friends in two months by becoming interested in other people than you can in two years by trying to get other people interested in you." will forever be etched in my mind.

                The first sales material that I can recall ever buying on my own was "How to Master the Art of Selling" By Tom Hopkins I was like 11 or something and actually spent my own money to buy this book. Still have that copy actually! This was ground breaking stuff. I can recall being so motivated after reading this, that I started a business out of my middle school locker selling candy bars and sodas. I was pulling in BANK. The Principle was not to happy, when my stepdad had to come get me from school - we went for a business lunch ( how could he not be proud? )

                Later came Spin Selling, again a great book and very timely in my growth, the very idea that many things I had heard and learned growing up could be the cause of failed closing was again ground breaking.

                "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu HOLY MOSES.. by no means a "Sales" book, but by all means a MUST READ! Any prospect is your enemy, and you must slip in where they are unprepared and appear where you are not expected.

                "The Seven Levels of Communication: Go From Relationships to Referrals" is again a terrific book. the premise of how many of your clients would attend your funeral - thought provoking to say the least.

                All of my years, my Engineering Education my Sales Jobs, my Tech Jobs and these books have brought me down the path of "Consulative Selling" or as I like to call it "The Path Of Least Resistance"

                If you place yourself into a position of listening, and not selling, ( for me anyways ) that is when sales take place. In a post earlier on this thread I commented that some times I will visit a client twice, three times, 15 times if needed to build that relationship. To allow the process of the sale to happen naturally. In that time I understand what the prospects pains are, I have already made the "Fit" determination, and I quietly wait for the tipping point, it will come.

                Then I must admit there are my The Art of War moments usually with high price tag SEO jobs. I usually will hit a client HARD, and from a direction they were not expecting ( having and using the power of the internet to understand your enemy er uh I mean prospect, is a very powerful tool. Many Prospects are usually a bit shocked by the fact that I know that much about what they do, how they do it, and how much they spend doing it ) When you are throwing up a $30,000 or greater Guarantee, you had better know what really is going on, and not just get some numbers from a client.

                On this board we continually speak about the lifetime worth of a client. This is how we base our potential pricing for leads as an example. I think we forget sometimes... that we need to step back and look at the value of the person we are speaking to. A long term client, is long term profits, and with any luck, that works both ways for YOU and your CLIENT.

                Not that you asked... but that's how I figured it out
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  • Profile picture of the author GloriasRosse
    I believe that could be a good method of more selling.

    But you have to use it as a useful strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author IrishEntrepreneur
    I wouldn't challenge their objections, but do the unexpected and agree with them (to an extent):

    A cold-calling, in-office scenario:

    - I'm busy, I don't have the time today.
    - I agree, we all have to work, but I'll tell you what, I'd much prefer ask for 3 minutes of your time now as opposed to using up more time scheduling a meeting for another day. I'll give you the main points ...
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  • Profile picture of the author misterme
    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

    I've read in lots of sales books that "No means they are interested. They wouldn't object unless they were interested".

    From a certain point of view, I guess that makes sense. And I used to sell that way.

    I think those techniques would still work today. It's that they didn't work all that well 30 years ago, but that's all we knew.
    I agree and let me offer an explanation why it appears to work.

    The opposite of interest is disinterest and when someone's disinterested that's when they couldn't care less about hearing one more word from the sales person. That's when they hang up on you.

    But a person spouting objections isn't hanging up on you.

    Yet they're also not buying.

    What gives?

    They're not that into whatever you're selling.

    They're not sufficiently interested to tip the scale.

    Think of interest as never stagnant. It's either going up or going down.

    Objections is a sign it's going down.

    And "overcoming objections" wouldn't be the way to raise that interest.

    When interested is going down it's on its way OUT.

    Now if interest were going up, then they wouldn't be spouting objections.

    No sir. Instead, they'd be asking questions.

    Because when they're interested they're coming toward you, checking it out, wanting to know more.

    Waving you off, backing away, pushing you down... that's when they don't want anything to do with it.

    BUT sometimes the prospect's in that sweet spot in between asking questions and giving objections.

    They're not sure.

    One second they're tipped on the more interested side the next they're on the less interested side.

    Back and forth, up and down.

    And after some wrangling the prospect's wavering up and down when all of a sudden things line up for a moment and presto.

    The sale can be closed.

    Whew. A rough way to make sales, says I.

    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

    How Misterme, Jake, Plessard, Jason, Dan and a few others figured it out, I have no idea.
    Because I was trying EVERYTHING I came across and it didn't work like the magic examples they all boasted. I burned through tons of people.

    So I said to myself, "this can't be right."

    And I noticed that people have their own mental process of buying and I asked myself, "how can I learn about what they're thinking so I can match what I do to how they're making their decisions?"

    And this is gonna sound crazy but I also noticed a correlation between dating and selling and because I was pretty good at figuring women out (just ask my girlfriend. She thinks I oughtta teach men how to date women) I simply applied a lot of that to selling.

    Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

    If you place yourself into a position of listening, and not selling, ( for me anyways ) that is when sales take place.
    Yeah that seems to work but also there are times I'll blab away and it works. And you know what it is?

    As long as what you're blabbing about is what matches and promises delivery of what they want there's a bonding which occurs, I think, in which they're feeling, "he gets it, he understands, he's on the same page, this is the guy for me" and they will take the next step towards the sale.

    I don't mean that they never get to speak (and when they do my listening is "active" hearing what they're really saying, why they're saying what they're saying), but yes those times I'm doing a good amount of the speaking.

    I think you're describing that bonding mechanism right here:

    Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

    Many Prospects are usually a bit shocked by the fact that I know that much about what they do, how they do it, and how much they spend doing it )
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by misterme View Post

      I agree and let me offer an explanation why it appears to work.

      The opposite of interest is disinterest and when someone's disinterested that's when they couldn't care less about hearing one more word from the sales person. That's when they hang up on you.

      But a person spouting objections isn't hanging up on you.

      Yet they're also not buying.

      What gives?

      They're not that into whatever you're selling.

      They're not sufficiently interested to tip the scale.

      Think of interest as never stagnant. It's either going up or going down.

      Objections is a sign it's going down.

      And "overcoming objections" wouldn't be the way to raise that interest.

      When interested is going down it's on its way OUT.

      Now if interest were going up, then they wouldn't be spouting objections.

      No sir. Instead, they'd be asking questions.

      Because when they're interested they're coming toward you, checking it out, wanting to know more.

      Waving you off, backing away, pushing you down... that's when they don't want anything to do with it.

      BUT sometimes the prospect's in that sweet spot in between asking questions and giving objections.

      They're not sure.

      One second they're tipped on the more interested side the next they're on the less interested side.

      Back and forth, up and down.

      And after some wrangling the prospect's wavering up and down when all of a sudden things line up for a moment and presto.

      The sale can be closed.

      Whew. A rough way to make sales, says I.
      I noticed that I got lots more objections when selling in people's homes, than on the phone. I think it was because I was in their home. There are social rules that most are certain to follow. Just saying "No, now leave" isn't polite.

      And the reason we get objections?
      I think people feel a need to explain, in a way that sounds rational, why they aren't buying. They feel a need to justify their decision. It's very unusual for someone to just say "No" without explaining why.

      Here is a reality. Most of our decisions are taking place in our medial cortex...It's the mammalian brain. It's where emotions are produced. The problem is, it's not where language is produced. So we are making decisions.....without an internal monologue.

      So we call these thoughts "feelings"..."Intuition". But these thoughts just didn't have an internal monologue. So we are conscious of the decision, but not the process used to arrive at it.

      And it's why we almost never really know why we are saying "No". We can't really put it into words..so our cerebral cortex (the problem solving rational brain) forms a pattern out of our nonverbal decisions, giving us a rational reason..that we tell the salesperson.

      The part I never understood, is why people feel an almost compulsive need to explain why they don't want to buy. And of course, that reason is almost universally something beyond their control....because it just takes too much out of them to say "I don't want to buy this". The need to keep the appearance of rapport is pretty universal, in my experience.

      In my entire adult life, selling in people's homes, and in retail. I've only had one person...ever (Out of way more than 10,000 presentations) tell me "I don't want to buy this", and not give a reason. When I asked, she simply said "I just don't want to buy it. That's reason enough". I almost asked her to marry me right then and there.

      You are right. Objections means they are pulling away from you. And you can't really get them back. All you can do, is argue with their intellectual part of the brain, and hope they just give up. Sometimes they do.

      And sometimes an objection is what they tell everyone...even when they want to buy.
      We didn't really overcome the objection...it was just a token resistance, to let the idea of buying...have time to sink in.

      Good stuff.
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      • Profile picture of the author misterme
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        The part I never understood, is why people feel an almost compulsive need to explain why they don't want to buy.
        Because they're most probably lieing and the reason they're giving you isn't the real reason. So because they know it's not the real reason they're attempting to make it convincing and to do that they have to make up something that sounds good, so they pour it on.

        A liar says: "My toe hurts because my shoes are too tight and I've been walking all day and I had to climb up and down stairs, and then this idiot stepped on my toe on top of that! So that's what must've done it."

        Someone whose toe actually says, "My toe hurts! How do I make the pain go away! Tell me, because it's killing me!"

        So that's how you know they're probably lieing. When they pour it on to give all the reasons why.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by misterme View Post

          Because they're most probably lieing and the reason they're giving you isn't the real reason. So because they know it's not the real reason they're attempting to make it convincing and to do that they have to make up something that sounds good, so they pour it on.
          .
          I understood what you posted, and agree.

          But what I meant was...why do people give us reasons for not buying at all.

          The last time I had a sales presentation in my home (about 25 years ago). I told the salesman "No, thank you".

          He said "Would you tell me why?"

          And I said "Because I don't want to buy it".

          He got a little flustered. (If I remember correctly), and said something like "Well, you must have a reason for saying No, may I ask what it is?"

          And I said "No. I said No. Thank you for coming by".

          You see, I never think I owe anyone an explanation for my decision. But universally, in my experience, the prospect does think they need to give a reason for not buying.

          Sure, it may be a lie. It may be the truth. But they are still giving an explanation.

          I live in a very nice area, that is kind of secluded. I got a notice that there was a "Block" meeting, about the city creating a bicycle path in our area. And the meeting was to explain an increase in taxes.

          A crowd of very well dressed people was speaking with a city rep. My wife and I listened for a few minutes. I said "Wait. Is this a done deal? Is the project already going to happen?". The rep said "Yes, I'm here to...."

          And I said "Then why are we here? it's all I needed to know.", and I started to leave. My wife grabbed my arm, and insisted that I wait to leave, because it would have embarrassed her....in front of a group of strangers......

          The people...all wealthy. All professionals or business owners....continued to complain about the added taxes. The city rep continued to explain the benefits of the project. After about 20 minutes, I whispered to my wife "Has it been long enough yet?". And we left.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Note that the OP never came back. I'm glad I didn't waste my time.

    Claude, misterme, plessard, helisell: we should put together an uber-tome of sales answers from our posts in this forum. The work is 99% done. Plucking and organization is all that is required.

    Oh boy, I've just given someone the idea for a WSO. I'm sure they'll credit all the content where it's due, too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rearden
    Originally Posted by dreamer123 View Post

    What are your thoughts?
    Tactical execution trumps strategery in sales.

    IE -- I don't care about what objections stumped you, until you answer the question, "How many sales calls did you make this week?"

    When the average sales agent makes 10 calls and closes 3 deals in my organization, and you make 5 sales calls and sell 0 policies, I don't want to hear a single word about objection-handling until you are EXECUTING in LARGE VOLUMES.

    A lack of prospecting is the cause of ALL sales woes. And with 80%+ of salesmen in all professions dying off within the first several months to year of their career, what we need to do is make ACTIVITY king.

    Once you are hitting the average or better, but still aren't averaging the same volume of sales, THEN and ONLY THEN can we discuss strategery (how to qualify, persuasion, etc.).
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