How to handle the, "I want to think about it" objection

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Came across this in my Facebook news feed and thought I'd share with all my great peers!

There's a free download in exchange for your information but I think it's well worth it!

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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

    Came across this in my Facebook news feed and thought I'd share with all my great peers!

    There's a free download in exchange for your information but I think it's well worth it!

    Enjoy guys and gals!

    I want to think about it

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    Sales Agenda Template

    If you enjoyed it there's a thank you button for a reason! LOL

    Russ; Not a bad resource, but I honestly think you probably have a better way to handle the objection, than is listed in the link.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
      You're probably right Claude, but the thing is that people are all different in how they approach things so that's why I shared.

      Anyways.... Great Day to You!

      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      Russ; Not a bad resource, but I honestly think you probably have a better way to handle the objection, than is listed in the link.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        When selling a couple, in their home....here's what I do when I get "We just need to think about it".

        http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...-they-buy.html


        It's interesting to read the posts. You can easily tell who the salespeople are, and who isn't. I don't mean that as an insult, it's just that saying "I want to think about it" a few times, is an entirely different experience than hearing it 10,000 times. Eventually, certain absolute truths emerge.
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        • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          When selling a couple, in their home....here's what I do when I get "We just need to think about it"
          The biggest lesson I have learned from those lines after years of hearing it, Is often how screwed a novice sales person is when they hear those words, they often come in with some scripted Tom Hopkins type response and soon the less stronger sales people feel the only thing to do is drop the price.

          My wife and I now save literally hundreds to thousands on major purchases by playing the game, we always play good cop bad cop, and we never agree on the price out of the bat and we will purposely, throw in a we will need to think about this, and even mutter words like no I'm not paying those dollars or for delivery etc.

          Before our eyes we can see and read the sales person shrinking, we know they want to make the sale especially if they need to make quota, so we ride it out and before long we are saving a lot of money, and when we think its down to where we need things we will give in and give the sales person the victory of closing the sale.
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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

            The biggest lesson I have learned from those lines after years of hearing it, Is often how screwed a novice sales person is when they hear those words, they often come in with some scripted Tom Hopkins type response and soon the less stronger sales people feel the only thing to do is drop the price.
            It's not that the Tom Hopkins techniques don't work anymore. I think they work as well now, as they did 30 years ago. It's that we know better now. We understand better how customers think, and how to match what they are thinking.

            Have you ever tried any of the Hopkins methods? I have. In 1981 I read the book How To Master The Art Of Selling.. My selling improved. The problem was, I was still in "combat mode", and every sale was a war, won by exhausting the customer.

            Selling by arguing.

            But...that's all we knew back then.
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            • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

              Have you ever tried any of the Hopkins methods?
              Yes one of the companies (a big national) I worked for had it as their sales training gig, and they pushed it down every sales person throats day and night.

              I ended up hating the crap as often there were better ways to do things and yes it was far outdated, and yes they are still piling this crap down the salespeople throats that work there now. They Have employed Ron Marks on their sales team trainer type role so across the nation, it is Tom Hopkins being slammed everywhere. Sad really because as you say there are better more modern and effective sales methods, but for me I no longer need worry about it as I no longer work with them.
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        • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
          I would do the same thing and as all my sales were in home I'd just tell them I was going outside to finish up the paperwork on their file and I'd be back in a few minutes, and if they had any further questions keeping them deciding to use me I'd be more then happy to answer them.

          Worked almost every time. hehe

          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          When selling a couple, in their home....here's what I do when I get "We just need to think about it".

          http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...-they-buy.html


          It's interesting to read the posts. You can easily tell who the salespeople are, and who isn't. I don't mean that as an insult, it's just that saying "I want to think about it" a few times, is an entirely different experience than hearing it 10,000 times. Eventually, certain absolute truths emerge.
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        • Profile picture of the author misterme
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          It's interesting to read the posts. You can easily tell who the salespeople are
          Thank you for that wonderful introduction, Claude.

          Okay, so, you know, if you need to answer an objection with a mouthful of sentences, then the vibe you're sending is "I'm SELLING you..."

          Back in the last century people weren't as bombarded as they are today with that stuff, and they were bombarded pretty bad back then.

          But today we have whole generations brought up being bombarded from their first day on earth.

          So now if you use this line:

          "Now just for my own clarification and understanding, what part of this offer/proposal will you be thinking about the most? Is it the (insert feature such as “our industry-leading warranty and service?” / “delivery and installation?” / “our certifications?” / “our training and support?” (You ask questions you know they already love so you can finally ask…) “Mr. Prospect, since you’re comfortable with all of those components of our offering, is it safe to assume what you really need to think over is the price?”

          As soon as you rattle off "what part of this offer/proposal will you be thinking about" the prospect is thinking, "Uh oh. He's trying to pressure me to buy. What can I say to get this guy off my back?"

          And they'll come up with something because this puts sales pressure on them.

          And sales pressure is what's causing all these objections in the first place.

          It's the law of cause and effect. There can't be sales resistance if there isn't any sales pressure.

          So how's this for a prospect's reply? "I'm not sure which part I'll be thinking over. That's exactly why I need to think this over."

          (By the way, you ever notice no Apple salesperson says ,"Now, exactly what is it about the iPhone you need to think over? Is it its design? Is it its warranty? Is it me? Is it our store? Oh must be the price! What do I have to do to get you into an iPhone today?")

          So continuing on... the salesperson bounces back with, "for whatever reason I haven't provided you with a clear path to follow because when I hear “I want to think about it,” what that means is that you are still unsure. On my website I have a list of not only the 10 FAQs but also 10 SAQs – Should Ask Questions. The SAQs are where the real decision is made. I have those 10 SAQs right here in this handout. May we spend a few minutes reviewing these SAQs to make sure we’ve covered all of the critical points to help you make a final decision once and or all?"

          And the prospect says "That's okay, you don't have to. I'll read it later."

          Stoopit. Stoopit. Stoopit objection rebuttals.

          Consider this scenario.

          Guy approaches a girl and after a while talking with her, asks for her phone number.

          She says "What do you want my phone number for?"

          Him: "So I can call you for a date."

          Her: "I'm just over a bad breakup and I'm not ready to date anyone."

          Him: "That's okay, we'll just chat."

          Her: "I don't have time to chat, I'm studying for my finals."

          Him: "Me too! We can study together."

          Her: "I do better when I study alone."

          All right let me cut it off there and simply say, if she were interested in seeing that guy again, she'd given him the phone number when he asked for it. I've had women jump to find a pen to give me their number. When a person wants something, they want it.

          Just as the prospect wouldn't object but make the purchase.

          I've found what really works when objections come up isn't some clever remarks designed to get the prospect to give up the ghost.

          What does work is a time tested strategy. I've isolated one which works tremendously well, and I'm actually right now writing a little book on it.

          Should be available soon.
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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by misterme View Post

            Thank you for that wonderful introduction, Claude.

            Okay, so, you know, if you need to answer an objection with a mouthful of sentences, then the vibe you're sending is "I'm SELLING you..."

            First, I should tell you that my "think it over close" is salesy. I only used it when it was my last ditch effort to sell. It's not something I would ever use when 'I want to think it over" was the first thing they said.

            And I want to know your answer now. Don't make us wait until your book comes out. I'll buy it anyway.

            Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!
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            • Profile picture of the author misterme
              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


              And I want to know your answer now. Don't make us wait until your book comes out. I'll buy it anyway.

              Gimme! Gimme! Gimme!
              I'll think it over.
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            Originally Posted by misterme View Post


            What does work is a time tested strategy. I've isolated one which works tremendously well, and I'm actually right now writing a little book on it.

            Should be available soon.
            Mr Me, with the prelude to the quote,
            I want to buy.

            Masterful sales job on me sir.

            Best,
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  • Profile picture of the author helisell
    Got to agree with Claude.

    Try using any of those techniques down my way and you'll
    likely get laughed off the premises.

    No wonder new sales people struggle if they try this
    outdated rubbish.
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  • Profile picture of the author sconlinemarketing
    I like Zig Ziglars book secrets to closing the sale he goes over this exact topic.

    If your on the phone and you get this objection say " Go ahead and think about it, I'll hold while your thinking." Then don't say anything.

    If your in person say " Go ahead and think about it, my wife isn't expecting me home anytime soon." Then don't say anything.

    Then they will say something of course. Tell them it is best to make a decision when all the information and benefits of your service is fresh in their mind and your here to answer any questions.

    If they are still not ready to move forward you missed something in your pitch and you need to find out why they are not ready to move forward.
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    • Profile picture of the author helisell
      Originally Posted by sconlinemarketing View Post

      I like Zig Ziglars book secrets to closing the sale he goes over this exact topic.

      If your on the phone and you get this objection say " Go ahead and think about it, I'll hold while your thinking." Then don't say anything.

      If your in person say " Go ahead and think about it, my wife isn't expecting me home anytime soon." Then don't say anything.

      Then they will say something of course. Tell them it is best to make a decision when all the information and benefits of your service is fresh in their mind and your here to answer any questions.

      If they are still not ready to move forward you missed something in your pitch and you need to find out why they are not ready to move forward.
      Sorry but this will not work in the modern world.

      IF...you are Zig Ziglar...

      AND have a million retorts on the tip of your tongue....
      AND don't really understand the sales process
      AND don't mind pitching in before you've qualified correctly (including qualifying the likely outcome of this sales meeting with the potential customer)

      Then try this cr@p by all means...but when you are holding a handkerchief to your bloodied nose....don't say I didn't tell you so ;0)

      If you are currently in sales and are having any success you KNOW full well that this kind of outdated (and extremely pushy and confrontational) 'sales talk rebuttal' simply doesn't work in this modern age.

      A smart ass retort will only get you what you deserve.
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      • Profile picture of the author Blase
        Originally Posted by helisell View Post

        Sorry but this will not work in the modern world.

        IF...you are Zig Ziglar...

        AND have a million retorts on the tip of your tongue....
        AND don't really understand the sales process
        AND don't mind pitching in before you've qualified correctly (including qualifying the likely outcome of this sales meeting with the potential customer)

        Then try this cr@p by all means...but when you are holding a handkerchief to your bloodied nose....don't say I didn't tell you so ;0)

        If you are currently in sales and are having any success you KNOW full well that this kind of outdated (and extremely pushy and confrontational) 'sales talk rebuttal' simply doesn't work in this modern age.

        A smart ass retort will only get you what you deserve.
        I understand what you are saying, do you think it's possible that each sales situation
        may also have a bearing on the outcome if you try these responses?

        If the sales person delivers the replay with a big smile on his face or
        even laughing, so the prospect knows he is messing with him.

        Couldn't that break the tension and interrupt the prospects blow off
        so you can get to what you've missed that is holding the sale back?
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        • Profile picture of the author misterme
          Originally Posted by Blase View Post

          I understand what you are saying, do you think it's possible that each sales situation
          may also have a bearing on the outcome if you try these responses?

          If the sales person delivers the replay with a big smile on his face or
          even laughing, so the prospect knows he is messing with him.

          Couldn't that break the tension and interrupt the prospects blow off
          so you can get to what you've missed that is holding the sale back?
          You really want to be deep into your sales meeting when you see if your prospect appreciates the humor or not?
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          • Profile picture of the author Blase
            Originally Posted by misterme View Post

            You really want to be deep into your sales meeting when you see if your prospect appreciates the humor or not?
            Totally agree, I have found it amazing what I can get away with
            when I use a big smile or a laugh, after a comment. I never try to
            be a smart ass, but I do want to disrupt the prospects train of thought.

            Also just because they are trying to blow me off, doesn't mean I'm done.
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            • a laydown vs. an objection filled sales peresentation

              how can objections be good when a lay down sale has none?

              *I may have said this on other threads, sorry if I'm repeating myself.

              food for thought???
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              • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                Originally Posted by kirbymarketingconcierge View Post

                a laydown vs. an objection filled sales peresentation

                how can objections be good when a lay down sale has none?

                *I may have said this on other threads, sorry if I'm repeating myself.

                food for thought???
                I don't think it's Food For Thought...I think it's the core thought.
                I ask salespeople; "Why are you getting any objections, at all?".

                "What have you done to create objections in the prospect's mind?"

                An amazing (to me) phenomenon is that customers give objections...and then buy.

                We aren't really overcoming their objections...we are just wearing them down. It isn't that our sales argument was so devastating, it's that they couldn't think of another objection...

                And somehow, they now think they are obligated to buy, because the salesperson won the argument. But they still don't really want to buy. They just give in.

                It's psychologically impossible for most people (certainly 95% or more) to say a flat "No" after a presentation. It's like they have to go through a dance. They feel the need to give a reason that they don't want to (or really can't) buy. When in fact, they just don't want to buy...and they have no idea what the real reason is.

                That fact has made me a small fortune over the decades. And I've walked out with thousands of sales, because they didn't have the backbone to just say "NO".

                I've noticed this much more in consumer sales, than sales to business owners. With business owners, I just get the eternal "we'll definitely do this as soon as..."
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by sconlinemarketing View Post

      I like Zig Ziglars book secrets to closing the sale he goes over this exact topic.

      If your on the phone and you get this objection say " Go ahead and think about it, I'll hold while your thinking." Then don't say anything.

      If your in person say " Go ahead and think about it, my wife isn't expecting me home anytime soon." Then don't say anything.
      I've read that, and tried something like that. A rep I hired was selling in someone's home. I was helping her close on the phone. The guy says "I just have to think about it", and she says "I've been here for three hours. Think faster!". I started laughing. And amazingly, they bought. I thought "Jeesh, maybe this is a technique". So I tried it 5 more times, and it didn't work.



      Originally Posted by sconlinemarketing View Post

      Then they will say something of course. Tell them it is best to make a decision when all the information and benefits of your service is fresh in their mind and your here to answer any questions.
      I don't mean to offend, but that simply doesn't work. It doesn't address what they are thinking. It is something that sounds completely reasonable, and it gets written in books. But nobody has ever said that to a prospect, and they said "I see your point. I guess I'll go ahead and buy it now".

      How do I know? I read it in a book too. And I wasted maybe a year, trying to make it work.

      I should start a thread titled "Sales statements that sound great, and you find in sales books, but have never ever worked in the real world".

      It would be a long list.

      I agree with Helisell, Snappy rebuttals never really worked. One in a while, the customer would buy anyway, and the salesman would take the credit. But it isn't really selling. And Zig Ziglar sold pots and pans 50 years ago, to lower income farmers. Honestly, he was a great motivational speaker, and a few of the techniques he taught really had value, but I would never recommend his book on closing sales. It's just too hard for a newer salesperson to separate the wheat from the chaff.
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      • Profile picture of the author savidge4
        I kind of like "here is the offer ( X for $X ) <pointing> there is the door. How long is it going to take for me to get there?"
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      They could say

      Good-bye.

      or

      You have time, I don't.


      They don't necessarily have to say, I'm buying, then.

      Like others have said, this answers none of their concerns.

      People don't say "I need to think about it" because they want to play with you or because they think that's going to lower the price... They do it because they're not sure what you're selling is worth buying from you.

      Buying involves risk. They're afraid they risk and lose.

      Originally Posted by sconlinemarketing View Post

      I like Zig Ziglars book secrets to closing the sale he goes over this exact topic.

      If your on the phone and you get this objection say " Go ahead and think about it, I'll hold while your thinking." Then don't say anything.

      If your in person say " Go ahead and think about it, my wife isn't expecting me home anytime soon." Then don't say anything.

      Then they will say something of course.
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      • Profile picture of the author mattbau43
        I think that if you were able to get through your entire pitch then you should consider this a success. MOST cold calls/or even warm sales do not end in a "win". Depending on your industry, closing 20% of warm leads is considered successful. What will separate you from a good salesperson to a great one is what you do with the other 80%.

        Consider those "I have to think about it's" as a valuable resource. Consider this one step in the sales process. Keep in touch with them and see what their needs are in 1 month, 6 months, 1 year. Nurture the relationship. Even if they never buy from you I would be willing to bet that if you have a solid, honest relationship with them that a good deal of those people will end up referring other customers to you in the future.

        I would consider this just one more step in the sales cycle. Good job. The work has just begun......
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        • Profile picture of the author cborgrx
          I very often say " I want to think about it" so that I can think the whole thing through on my terms so that I don't develop buyers remorse. It also affords me an opportunity to check out any details that were mentioned in the sales pitch that need to be verified by a dis-interested person. If I were on the other side of the equation, I would use the aforementioned comments by saying " I insist that you think about it because I know I would want to do the same when I am buying something. I respect your choice and therefore I will call you when to review the final details?
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  • Profile picture of the author helisell
    99.999999999% of people who say 'I want to think about it' will NEVER
    give it another thought ever once you and they are apart.

    CBORGX, and I'm not being ironic, is one of the few that proves the point.

    The rest just don't want to make a decision. If a buyer does nothing it CAN'T be wrong
    in their mind.....the only risk is saying YES and maybe living to regret it.

    Because the '....think about it' scenario is so common, I spend a LOT of time training
    salespeople how to handle it.

    In fact I'd go as far as saying, if I could teach all sales organisations how
    to handle this one simple scenario, they would see a massive leap in sales.

    Who, in their right mind, would want to walk into a sales situation with a weak,
    wishy washy response to this very common objection and come out with some inane
    garbage like '....sure go ahead and think..I'll wait' or 'what do you want to think about,
    or the Winston Churchill close (or whatever it's called in your part of the world).......

    I echo what Claude was saying....cos I've read all those books too and tried all those great sounding techniques that turn out to be pure...'looks good on paper' garbage.

    There is a respectful, non threatening, effective, successful way of handling the .'think about it' objection.....and I've just realised that I ought to get writing the book now for just that one objection.

    It would have maybe 20 pages in it and would be worth millions.
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  • Profile picture of the author mjbmedia
    fact is you have to contact many businesses a number of times before they will buy. That's life, whether its by phone, email, direct mail, face to face, adverts, promos, radio ads, etc etc the more they receive your specific message the more they know youre for real .

    Did you drink a new brand of drink the first time you ever heard of it, unlikely right. You probably saw it on the shelf a few times, saw some ads on TV, papers, had some word of mouth then a week or so later maybe tried it .

    its only the Apple freaks that buy on the first second of trading ;-)
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by mjbmedia View Post

      Did you drink a new brand of drink the first time you ever heard of it, unlikely right. You probably saw it on the shelf a few times, saw some ads on TV, papers, had some word of mouth then a week or so later maybe tried it .
      You triggered a thought in my massive brain. Seeing advertising..seeing a band name, isn't the same as giving a full blown presentation. It isn't the same at all.

      Remember the gospel that "It takes 5 (or 7...or 15) presentations to make your average sale."?

      That originally came from the 1950s. It was an advertising agency, with a focus group. They found that it took an average of 5 impressions before the subjects remembered a brand name. It wasn't until they bought...just remembered the brand name.

      And,of course...that "5 impressions to remember a brand name" got repeated so many times, that it also because "5 contacts before an appointment" and "5 presentations before a sale".

      But we aren't talking about memorizing a brand name. We are talking about buying something. With the exception of highly complicated sales that take multiple visits to explain...and get approvals..and do analysis....and have long approval processes......most sales happen in one call.

      A sales presentation is like watching a great movie. How many times do you watch a movie before you decide if you like it? Five? Ten times? No. Once. Always.

      Have you ever watched a truly scary movie? Were you as scared the second time you watched the movie? No. The fifth time? Not at all.

      How many times do you need to hear a great joke, before you laugh? Once. And do you laugh harder the fifth time you hear it? Nope. You probably don't laugh at all.

      And it is the same with selling. the peak of interest is always at the first time you see the offer. Always. Interest never increases with subsequent visits. It always goes down.

      For the last 5 years, selling my local online service, I only get two responses.

      80% of the time, they say "That's great. Let's get started!", and 20% of the time, they say "That's great we are definitely going to do this...just as soon as....". The 20% group? They never buy. I've tried. I'm convinced, by actual records, that if I kept after that 20%...I would eventually get another 2-3%. My time is far better spent, just ignoring them.

      Does a doctor ever hear"I want to think about it"? Almost never. Why? Because he is a trusted authority figure. Get that? Stop being a pitchman, and start being a trusted authority figure.

      Believe it or not, you can even position yourself that way...cold calling. But it's easier to craft with referrals.

      "They don't buy until the fifth attempt" is a myth. Selling at high levels is complicated.

      But if only one person does it...that means it can be done.
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      • Profile picture of the author Underground
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        You triggered a thought in my massive brain. Seeing advertising..seeing a band name, isn't the same as giving a full blown presentation. It isn't the same at all.

        Remember the gospel that "It takes 5 (or 7...or 15) presentations to make your average sale."?

        That originally came from the 1950s. It was an advertising agency, with a focus group. They found that it took an average of 5 impressions before the subjects remembered a brand name. It wasn't until they bought...just remembered the brand name.

        And,of course...that "5 impressions to remember a brand name" got repeated so many times, that it also because "5 contacts before an appointment" and "5 presentations before a sale".

        But we aren't talking about memorizing a brand name. We are talking about buying something. With the exception of highly complicated sales that take multiple visits to explain...and get approvals..and do analysis....and have long approval processes......most sales happen in one call.

        A sales presentation is like watching a great movie. How many times do you watch a movie before you decide if you like it? Five? Ten times? No. Once. Always.

        Have you ever watched a truly scary movie? Were you as scared the second time you watched the movie? No. The fifth time? Not at all.

        How many times do you need to hear a great joke, before you laugh? Once. And do you laugh harder the fifth time you hear it? Nope. You probably don't laugh at all.

        And it is the same with selling. the peak of interest is always at the first time you see the offer. Always. Interest never increases with subsequent visits. It always goes down.

        For the last 5 years, selling my local online service, I only get two responses.

        80% of the time, they say "That's great. Let's get started!", and 20% of the time, they say "That's great we are definitely going to do this...just as soon as....". The 20% group? They never buy. I've tried. I'm convinced, by actual records, that if I kept after that 20%...I would eventually get another 2-3%. My time is far better spent, just ignoring them.

        Does a doctor ever hear"I want to think about it"? Almost never. Why? Because he is a trusted authority figure. Get that? Stop being a pitchman, and start being a trusted authority figure.

        Believe it or not, you can even position yourself that way...cold calling. But it's easier to craft with referrals.

        "They don't buy until the fifth attempt" is a myth. Selling at high levels is complicated.

        But if only one person does it...that means it can be done.

        I'm not disagreeing with the idea that most people only need one presentation to decide if they want something or not. I strongly believe that 'selling' of the pressurized, hunter and prey type is largely redundant and a formality if you have something they want and have presented it well. Whether that is through a video, webinar, sales page, in house demo or whatever.


        However, getting to be able to have a prospect be receptive enough to check out your presentation still has a lot of preamble, particularly today, and the data on that is far more recent than the 50's. I think that is the point today about multiple contacts. Not in order to present/sell over a prolonged, drawn-out, laboured period, but getting the opportunity to present there and then.

        Once that is achieved, I wouldn't pursue those who didn't actively show signs of genuine interest in taking things further, but I would go through the preamble necessary to gain their attention to get to present and be given that platform. With pre-researched prospects.

        If you present/sell too early without understanding you need to have a receptive ear for your presentation, you blow that chance in far too many cases unnecessarily.

        I know that's the case. That's how millions are made in a day selling from the stage or on a 2 hour webinar. You have to earn the right to present your offer, you can't start the webinar off with the offer and expect people to buy unless your a Frank Kern or Dan Kennedy type and the offer is exceptional.

        Yet many off us here all start out selling straight away and if we don't find the outlier who'll let you do that, move on until we do. Some people stay in that cycle and never develop their approach to woo far more people to hear them out. In simple sell, it's ok. Just keep going until you find the people who do. In B2B, where you have 100's of competitors in contact with them already and they have so much choice, you need someway to establish yourself as someone worthy to hear out.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Underground View Post


          However, getting to be able to have a prospect be receptive enough to check out your presentation still has a lot of preamble, particularly today, and the data on that is far more recent than the 50's. I think that is the point today about multiple contacts. Not in order to present/sell over a prolonged, drawn-out, labored period, but getting the opportunity to present there and then.

          If you present/sell too early without understanding you need to have a receptive ear for your presentation, you blow that chance in far too many cases unnecessarily.

          In B2B, where you have 100's of competitors in contact with them already and they have so much choice, you need someway to establish yourself as someone worthy to hear out.
          The Pre-amble (as you call it) I call positioning.

          I've also done cold calls to business people. My closing percentage drops from 80% to about 50% with cold called appointments. And if I just presented to anyone who let me, it would drop below 30%.

          The positioning can be done during the appointment, but it's a laborious process, and isn't nearly as effective as it is if you walk in with a reputation/image already.

          The ways to position (before you call) are through branding, referrals, cold calling for immediate needs, leads from books, leads from speaking, advertising...and so on.

          I think you are talking much more about the Chet Holmes idea of your Dream 100....where the people you need to see are very hard to get to, and require ingenuity, timing, and persistence to see in the first place. And that's easily far more profitable, ultimately.
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          • Profile picture of the author Underground
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            The Pre-amble (as you call it) I call positioning.

            I've also done cold calls to business people. My closing percentage drops from 80% to about 50% with cold called appointments. And if I just presented to anyone who let me, it would drop below 30%.

            The positioning can be done during the appointment, but it's a laborious process, and isn't nearly as effective as it is if you walk in with a reputation/image already.

            The ways to position (before you call) are through branding, referrals, cold calling for immediate needs, leads from books, leads from speaking, advertising...and so on.

            I think you are talking much more about the Chet Holmes idea of your Dream 100....where the people you need to see are very hard to get to, and require ingenuity, timing, and persistence to see in the first place. And that's easily far more profitable, ultimately.
            Particularly, I have in mind small to medium, entrepreneurial business owners. I prospect so I have direct contact with them either through email or mobile/personal phone number, but I suppose some would fall into that Chet Holmes category if you went through the usual channels, which include gatekeepers, to get to.

            It's maybe a lot more than I think would just be open to getting pitched there and then, but from my experience with business owners, they are getting pitched left, right and centre with similar services by every hustler who thinks they can just set up shop and go and make easy money.

            If you have a cold call pitch that says you do SEO, or online marketing, you're mostly likely to instantly be put into that category of those who they've long tuned out of.

            So some kind of positioning, like you say, that can differentiate and create that trusted authority dynamic before presenting just seems like a better strategy in offline where you are going in cold on new prospects to get their attention, even if it might be overkill in some cases.

            But once there, I'd never chase someone for sales if they haven't already indicated they really like what you have and have interest. A solid presentation based on good product or services that offers them more than the norm in a good deal should be enough. So much so that if they don't go for it, or have a good reason, valid reason for why they don't go for it there and then, you can basically take it for granted that is a dead-horse pursuing them.

            I say that not to lecture you as if you don't already know all of this, but because some people here often equate the positioning or preamble to get on their radar and be taken notice of enough in order to get a fair hearing as chasing them and taking weeks to close a sale. When it's the equivalent of what Ogilvy said about the positioning of the product, and how you position it in the minds of the customers, being more important than the words. I think positioning and persistence until you get a platform to present, is vital if you want efficient sales and marketing. Many here just are completely oblivious to the need of doing the work needed until a business owners says, ok, show me in detail what you've got.

            I think in those cases, the problem selling, trying to find pain points and drag out of them acknowledgements that they need your product, or discovery calls and all that, is virtually unnecessary. If your product/solution/service should speak for itself. And there are ways to quickly build a list of prospects who see you as an authority and trust you and who would be far more receptive to your presentation than if you tried to force it on them in the first minute.
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by Underground View Post

              If you have a cold call pitch that says you do SEO, or online marketing, you're mostly likely to instantly be put into that category of those who they've long tuned out of.
              And that's why I personally would never try to sell a high end service over the phone. Although I know it can be done. I just set appointments with people for a quick introduction....and when I get there, there is either a quick connection, or their isn't.

              But I need to meet the guy. I don't reschedule because I'm looking for a specific reaction. And if I call to reschedule, I'm out of position You can't chase someone, while being an authority. It sounds like a lot of wasted travel and time...but I only prospect very locally.
              And the truth is, I almost never do it anymore. The last time I cold called, was just an experiment while writing a book.



              Originally Posted by Underground View Post

              If your product/solution/service should speak for itself. And there are ways to quickly build a list of prospects who see you as an authority and trust you and who would be far more receptive to your presentation than if you tried to force it on them in the first minute.
              It isn't like that. You leave hints throughout the presentation...from beginning to end. You slowly paint a picture that you are a busy expert who is in demand. It isn't a step in the presentation, it's woven throughout.

              Have you ever talked to a busy expert who is in demand? So have I. They talk a certain way, use a certain tempo, answer questions a certain way, and use body language that is different from a peddler. The prospect absorbs it during the time together. There is no need to force anything on the prospect.

              And I just realized that this is very very advanced stuff. Advanced enough, that I've never successfully taught it to a rep I've had.
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    Of course one could always use the term, "think about it" during the sales pitch and then the prospect won't need to think about it and if they do say they need to think about it you can simply say, you already thought about it because I asked you several times to, think about it. HAHAH
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      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      Of course one could always use the term, "think about it" during the sales pitch and then the prospect won't need to think about it and if they do say they need to think about it you can simply say, you already thought about it because I asked you several times to, think about it. HAHAH
      I've done that a few times. Literally. At the point where they agree with something strongly, I may say "Are you certain? i want you to be absolutely certain before we continue. I only want happy customers".

      And a few times I've said "Aren't you glad you had a chance to see everything and consider the options?"

      People want the idea that they have shopped...seen the alternatives...weighed the evidence. You can do that all in the presentation. Don't wait until after the presentation.
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