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Hi everyone

I have a design and marketing agency.

I am wanting to start generating passive income by selling seo. I have 3-4 business onboard at the moment, from word of mouth.

I need to get 100+ businesses on-board. I need a strategy.

Currently I have:
  • Youtube Video, Linkedin Message, Mailchimp Campaign, Facebook Posts/Twitter Post

Any ideas?
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    try selling SEO to your 4 existing clients.

    You don't mention if you're good at SEO (or have someone good at SEO on your team). If you do, a good use of the skills would be to pick the toughest keyword people looking for SEO in the area you want to compete, and push a page on your site, that says you're for hire for SEO, to #1 in Google.

    Then do the same for the next keyword, then the next, then the next...

    Or rank a page for plumber + city (or any other keyword + city) and have an ad for your services on that page... for the random plumber who's checking out his/her competition.

    You can also call plumbers and say, My good friend, check out plumber + city. The 1st organic result is one of my webpages. I can put your ugly mug in place of mine. For a small monthly fee.

    Originally Posted by cfreshdesign View Post

    Hi everyone

    I have a design and marketing agency.

    I am wanting to start generating passive income by selling seo. I have 3-4 business onboard at the moment, from word of mouth.

    I need to get 100+ businesses on-board. I need a strategy.

    Currently I have:
    • Youtube Video, Linkedin Message, Mailchimp Campaign, Facebook Posts/Twitter Post

    Any ideas?
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  • Profile picture of the author JKirby
    Why not create a lead generation site for a specific industry and sell on a per-lead basis?

    If you cannot do that, then you have no business doing anything in SEO if you can't rank your own site you control. Once you get a lead-client on board, then you can upsell SEO for their specific website.
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    • Profile picture of the author savidge4
      A word of advice. SEO and "Passive Income" scares me. if you don't know what SEO is, then don't jump in the pool. you can only hurt your reputation.

      SEO is FAR from passive!
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      • Profile picture of the author timpears
        Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

        A word of advice. SEO and "Passive Income" scares me. if you don't know what SEO is, then don't jump in the pool. you can only hurt your reputation.

        SEO is FAR from passive!
        Yes, SEO is not really a passive gig. In some cases you can rank a site and not have to do much to keep it ranked. But monitoring and such still keeps you active, and inevitably you will need to keep working on backlinks and what ever.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Lee
    In order to get their attention, you need status and credibility. Do you have any case studies you can use in your marketing efforts? Or reviews or testimonials from those who have used your services?

    If you don't have any, get some. Offer to work with a business owner pro-bono or a drastically reduced rate - with the understanding that THEY allow you to use their business, and results you generated in your promotional efforts.

    It's a lot easier to gain the "know trust & like" factor once you've got some proof under your belt.
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  • Profile picture of the author cfreshdesign
    Hi

    Sorry for misunderstanding!

    I have 4 SEO clients on board. I have a team who do the SEO for me, they are exceptional.

    I have case studies.

    Just struggling how to market it and push it?
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      How to push it?

      Look at what I said.

      Go to chamber of commerce networking events.

      Create a list of likely candidates, call them, send them mail.

      Get your 4 clients to talk to business owners/managers they know.

      Go on Linkedin in, find likely candidates, interact with them.

      Endless options. But, first, you have to figure out who you want to work with and why they should choose you over anyone else and why they should choose SEO.

      How did you get your existing clients? Do more of the same, except push SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
    Originally Posted by cfreshdesign View Post

    Hi everyone

    I have a design and marketing agency.

    I am wanting to start generating passive income by selling seo. I have 3-4 business onboard at the moment, from word of mouth.

    I need to get 100+ businesses on-board. I need a strategy.

    Currently I have:
    • Youtube Video, Linkedin Message, Mailchimp Campaign, Facebook Posts/Twitter Post

    Any ideas?
    First of all, come up with a offer that's hard to refuse,
    like you'll do something they can see a valuable result
    and charge a very small amount, like under $50.

    It's a trial offer.

    Once you have a high converting offer, then you can
    pay for advertising.

    Once they are on board, you are automatically set to follow up
    with them to upsell to your full monthly service.

    Best,
    Ewen
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    I can deliver the prospects, but it is the sales part I have problems with. Maybe we should JV? Not sure if that is what you are looking for or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author digichik
    Don't refer to your offer as "SEO". Too many businesses have bee ripped off by "SEO experts", or know someone who has. They no longer want to hear about ranking on Page #1 of Google.

    Figure out a new terminology for SEO, wording that makes prospects think you can solve the problem of getting them more customers.
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    • Profile picture of the author timpears
      Originally Posted by digichik View Post

      Don't refer to your offer as "SEO". Too many businesses have bee ripped off by "SEO experts", or know someone who has. They no longer want to hear about ranking on Page #1 of Google.

      Figure out a new terminology for SEO, wording that makes prospects think you can solve the problem of getting them more customers.
      No one wants SEO, 'cept internet marketers. What they want is more leads and clients or customers. They want cash in the till.
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  • Profile picture of the author FreedomBlogger
    If you are really good with SEO, then you can rank for relevant, local keywords.

    It will be a lot easier to rank for Local Long Tail Keywords - selling your SEO Services.

    You can rank for keywords like; 'SEO services for businesses in Seattle, WA'

    And just look for those type of local keywords to get some good exposure.

    Using the search engines to market your SEO Services would be the perfect way to sell it and get more business.

    You gotta back up the knowledge and skills you are providing to your customers, you know what I mean.

    You can also use multiple internet marketing strategies like video marketing, article marketing, forum marketing, content marketing, attraction marketing, social media marketing, mobile marketing, etc.

    Just learn the internet marketing skills and implement them on a daily basis!

    I hope this helps!

    I wish you the best success!!

    Cheers!
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    • Profile picture of the author timpears
      Originally Posted by FreedomBlogger View Post

      If you are really good with SEO, then you can rank for relevant, local keywords.

      It will be a lot easier to rank for Local Long Tail Keywords - selling your SEO Services.

      You can rank for keywords like; 'SEO services for businesses in Seattle, WA'

      And just look for those type of local keywords to get some good exposure.

      Using the search engines to market your SEO Services would be the perfect way to sell it and get more business.

      You gotta back up the knowledge and skills you are providing to your customers, you know what I mean.

      You can also use multiple internet marketing strategies like video marketing, article marketing, forum marketing, content marketing, attraction marketing, social media marketing, mobile marketing, etc.

      Just learn the internet marketing skills and implement them on a daily basis!

      I hope this helps!

      I wish you the best success!!

      Cheers!
      I think you leave a lot of money on the table by just selling SEO (which most prospects are not interested in) rather than have them take you on as a consultant. You can provide them much more than SEO. Which is really what they are wanting, more money in the till.

      Maybe I am missing the point, but that is what I seem to be reading.
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      • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
        Here's more detail from my earlier post...


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        • Profile picture of the author massiveray
          Absolute nonsense!

          Originally Posted by ewenmack View Post

          Here's more detail from my earlier post...

          Get Hungry SEO Clients To Come To You! - YouTube

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          • Profile picture of the author Underground
            Originally Posted by massiveray View Post

            Absolute nonsense!
            Why do you say that? Have you tried targeted facebook advertising for SEO clients?


            Saying that, I did watch that video the other day when he posted it to his list, and wondered why he didn't reveal more about how he converts them once he gets the clicks.

            He uses a 29 dollar tripwire offer where he offers to rank a page of theirs or something in two weeks or give them double the money back if it doesn't increase their rankings. Then aims a few pbns at their pages or site to get a jump. Then calls then back when he's got results and pitches them on his main services.

            Plus he's a great market and great at copy and videos and has a lot of different cases studies he can use in his funnels.

            None of that he mentions in the video but still, you can attract clicks that way. And if you have a decent funnel with trip wires, lead magnets, retargetting, compelling case studies and proof it will work.


            I can tell this now, most people don't. Their sales approach is way to direct, way too pitchy. Just stupid. Someone clicks on their ad and they are all over them with the exact worn out SEO pitches as everyone else and they expect their audience is just going to hand them 1-5000 k a month with no courtship. Their sales processes are repulsive and ineffective.

            Becker's isn't. But these free videos he produces, they are always missing the vital elements because he wants you to get on his paid stuff, where he does give you everything in detail and how he sets up his funnels and proves his value and ability to get results.
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        • Profile picture of the author hometutor
          Originally Posted by ewenmack View Post

          Here's more detail from my earlier post...

          Get Hungry SEO Clients To Come To You! - YouTube

          Best,
          Doctor E.Vile
          Selling to someone ready to be closed is not selling it's taking orders.

          Demonstrate a problem
          Show a solution
          Show why they should buy from you.

          THAT is involved in every sales pitch there is. You'll even find it on properly designed business cards.

          Rick
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          • Profile picture of the author JKirby
            Originally Posted by hometutor View Post

            Selling to someone ready to be closed is not selling it's taking orders.
            I agree to some extent. When you prospect efficiently and correctly, you've already punched through their action threshold and have 'presold' the prospect.

            In every buyer's market there are always a group that realizes they need the solution today and will buy without having to be sold on much.



            I think the point that everyone agrees on is that you shouldn't be selling SEO. You should be selling the business/client on the solution that SEO is apart of.
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            • Profile picture of the author hometutor
              Originally Posted by JKirby View Post

              I agree to some extent. When you prospect efficiently and correctly, you've already punched through their action threshold and have 'presold' the prospect.

              In every buyer's market there are always a group that realizes they need the solution today and will buy without having to be sold on much.



              I think the point that everyone agrees on is that you shouldn't be selling SEO. You should be selling the business/client on the solution that SEO is apart of.
              That's basic sales you sell benefits not technology. If one has enough staff or time and sales training the no's can be turned into yeses and more income.

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          • Profile picture of the author timpears
            Originally Posted by hometutor View Post

            Selling to someone ready to be closed is not selling it's taking orders.

            Rick
            Why would you spend time selling to someone who does not want your product? That is unproductive for both parties. You need to spend more time searching for people who need and want your product, and less time trying to convince someone who doesn't want it, to buy.

            You sound like you are putting down someone who finds people who are lay downs for the product they are selling. That is being productive and efficient in my mind.
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            • Profile picture of the author JKirby
              Originally Posted by timpears View Post

              Why would you spend time selling to someone who does not want your product? That is unproductive for both parties. You need to spend more time searching for people who need and want your product, and less time trying to convince someone who doesn't want it, to buy.

              You sound like you are putting down someone who finds people who are lay downs for the product they are selling. That is being productive and efficient in my mind.
              It's not wasting time. But if you get a phone call, and it goes like this:

              Hi, is this ABC SEO?

              Great, I was looking at buying your $1,500/mo plan. I really need this to start today.

              Okay, I have both a VISA and Mastercard ready!

              That's not selling. You should focus on generating a need for your service, but the calls above aren't selling. Same goes with telemarketing. You can be the worst telemarketer in the world, if you dial enough, you'll eventually find someone sitting at their desk hoping to spend money on something they may or may not need.
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              • Profile picture of the author timpears
                Originally Posted by JKirby View Post

                That's not selling. You should focus on generating a need for your service, but the calls above aren't selling. Same goes with telemarketing. You can be the worst telemarketer in the world, if you dial enough, you'll eventually find someone sitting at their desk hoping to spend money on something they may or may not need.
                You are being a little picky here. No it is not selling, it is order taking. Nut the product is sold, past tens of sell. That is the name of this game.

                You will find way more sales if you search for those who are interested in your offer. I am just saying, why spend your time calling 400 people per day, to get 399 no's? You could do a mass email marketing gig, and get three people to call you, out of which you will more than likely sell two.

                Just my $0.02. Worth exactly what you paid for it. I am not trying to get you to change your mind or convince you. Just sharing my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author hometutor
    Originally Posted by cfreshdesign View Post

    Hi everyone

    I have a design and marketing agency.

    I am wanting to start generating passive income by selling seo. I have 3-4 business

    Any ideas?
    So, does this mean your outsourcing the word involved with SEO? Did you investigate these people first?

    Rick
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  • Profile picture of the author Underground
    Why is it only on this place do I see so many people dismissing or shitting on things that actually work?

    Becker makes millions. His approach to getting clients make him a lot of money. And he doesn't need to be out there cold calling are practising other long-winded methods.

    He's found a smarter way.

    Yet the experts here come on a sneer about that not being 'selling'. Jesus Christ.

    What is the point of selling? To make sales? Or to go and prove how you are a real sales person because you can turn a few prospects out of hundreds contacted who didn't know anything about your product 10 minutes before into a new customer.

    Whatever is most effective at generating sales should be used. Ewan shared the ideal way on this thread.

    Have a low priced, irresistable, high-converting offer and then do like Becker suggests and get that infront of the right people.

    Forget all this bullshit about selling being this or that, and that it means going out and trying to convince people. That's the long, arduous, less profitable way in this day and age.

    Just watching a video from a Ryan Deiss course. About splintering, as he calls it.

    He worked with a marketing firm selling SEO and PPC. They were lucky to get 3 clients a month at $500, from a booth at trade show of 5000 businesses in attendance.

    Deiss had them offer a tiny $20 service setting up and optimising a Google + page, and a little company branded adwords campaign.

    At another trade show with the new splintered service with 2000 people, 87 bought the $20 offer. 19 of those buyers converted to the $500 a month offer.

    23 more converted later after follow up.

    Before that, each trade show averaged 3 people at $500 a month.

    After that, 42 new clients a month. $21,300 just from one show.

    They did what Ewan suggested, had a very high-converting offer, and had the same principle Becker mentioned about the hot-dog stand and getting infront of the right people.

    Yet Ewan drops something that will actually help the OP more than anything, it's more refuted than anything. Strange.
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    • Profile picture of the author JKirby
      Originally Posted by Underground View Post

      He's found a smarter way.
      Yup! That's what prospecting the right way does. Getting in front of the right people with the right offer. Pre-closing them by means of prospecting!

      When people have the right prospecting methods along with the correct sales funnel, that's how it works. Segmentation selling is what is needed, especially with SEO/Marketing services. No one wants to hear a long winded and drawn out process.

      I don't think anyone argues that the video is 'bullshit', save maybe a couple people, but Becker is building a business. When I run campaigns on FB and other Social Media outlets, that's how I design my offer and funnel. I only want to talk to people who have been 'pre-sold' on the idea. That's having an effective marketing strategy. With my current FB strategy I close 82% of all prospects who actually get on the phone with me. The funnel is set up to prep the viewers and to not have a 'hard-sell' over the phone.

      Despite it working, I wouldn't call what I do 'selling' over the phone. I wouldn't go as far as to tell people I have a 82% closing ratio on the phone. I have services and offers that are designed to have a battle on the phone for. And others that don't. Certain things you can use to build businesses just by effective and strategic marketing and prospecting. You don't have to sell at all.

      At least for me, selling is more geared to closing the deal. If the prospecting I do works the way it's supposed to, like 100% the way it's supposed to, there is no closing the deal. The prospect is pre-sold on the idea and already has exceeded the action threshold. I think though it boils down to verbiage and what you view the process as a whole.
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      • Profile picture of the author Underground
        Originally Posted by JKirby View Post

        Yup! That's what prospecting the right way does. Getting in front of the right people with the right offer. Pre-closing them by means of prospecting!

        When people have the right prospecting methods along with the correct sales funnel, that's how it works. Segmentation selling is what is needed, especially with SEO/Marketing services. No one wants to hear a long winded and drawn out process.

        I don't think anyone argues that the video is 'bullshit', save maybe a couple people, but Becker is building a business. When I run campaigns on FB and other Social Media outlets, that's how I design my offer and funnel. I only want to talk to people who have been 'pre-sold' on the idea. That's having an effective marketing strategy. With my current FB strategy I close 82% of all prospects who actually get on the phone with me. The funnel is set up to prep the viewers and to not have a 'hard-sell' over the phone.

        Despite it working, I wouldn't call what I do 'selling' over the phone. I wouldn't go as far as to tell people I have a 82% closing ratio on the phone. I have services and offers that are designed to have a battle on the phone for. And others that don't. Certain things you can use to build businesses just by effective and strategic marketing and prospecting. You don't have to sell at all.

        At least for me, selling is more geared to closing the deal. If the prospecting I do works the way it's supposed to, like 100% the way it's supposed to, there is no closing the deal. The prospect is pre-sold on the idea and already has exceeded the action threshold. I think though it boils down to verbiage and what you view the process as a whole.
        Good post. There are some services I offer that need more hands-on consultations and proposals once it's been established they are in the market for what I offer, or I can prove a good case for them to look at for they should be.

        Need to find out what their ideal outcome/s are, if we can meet them, when they want the solution and then if you can provide the certainty, which is a another gem Ewan spoke about the other day people were quick to mock, that you have the right means, skills, process to achieve that outcome so they feel certain that's what they are getting when they do the deal, then that's one of those instances where you can't expect your funnels to do all the work,

        And their will be clients who want what you have, but need that extra step, rather than pulling the trigger.


        But going out and trying to sell cold prospects from scratch who don't have a desire in the first place, which is what most people do, thinking it's a numbers game, well that shouldn't be called selling. That's more persuasion.

        There's more than enough people with a desire and who would buy, provided like you say, that they have prospected right not to go out trying to persuade people of anything, but are dealing with those with a desire already. At most you have to manually facilitate and help someone make a buying decision or not by helping them through their process.

        It's always there process in sales. They need to know certain things first about your product or service. Can it help them with their problem. Is it the best way to do that. How can it do that. How can they be certain that it will. And a few other criteria they have.

        But if they don't have the desire or want, and somehow you've convinced them to by, then that is persuasion at best, or manipulation or pressure tactics at worse. Just not worth trying to do that when there's no need if you picked a market where there is sufficient demand.
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        • Profile picture of the author savidge4
          There still is something missing. As much as it is about the price point and the offer, about making the close etc. it goes deeper than that. weather it be Becker or Deiss, there is a fundamental truth in what is being done here. Sure they are selling a service for cheap, that gets them in the door. But more importantly there is RESULTS.

          An optimized Google+ page and an adwords campaign does what? it produces traffic... what does traffic produce? RESULTS. Once you have RESULTS... you can sell the client anything you want at any price. WHY? because you have proven yourself. You no longer are the guy standing outside saying "I can produce results!" You are the guy inside that DID produce results.

          In this day and age web anything; SEO, PPC, Web Design, Local, Social you name it... DEMANDS Results in order to be successful. More importantly it is REQUIRED for any amount of longevity in this industry. If you can not provide RESULTS for your clients, you are stealing from them, plain and simple.

          So develop a little quick system that time and again provides results. Sell it for $20. Then nail them for the big stuff.
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          • Profile picture of the author Underground
            Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

            There still is something missing. As much as it is about the price point and the offer, about making the close etc. it goes deeper than that. weather it be Becker or Deiss, there is a fundamental truth in what is being done here. Sure they are selling a service for cheap, that gets them in the door. But more importantly there is RESULTS.

            An optimized Google+ page and an adwords campaign does what? it produces traffic... what does traffic produce? RESULTS. Once you have RESULTS... you can sell the client anything you want at any price. WHY? because you have proven yourself. You no longer are the guy standing outside saying "I can produce results!" You are the guy inside that DID produce results.

            In this day and age web anything; SEO, PPC, Web Design, Local, Social you name it... DEMANDS Results in order to be successful. More importantly it is REQUIRED for any amount of longevity in this industry. If you can not provide RESULTS for your clients, you are stealing from them, plain and simple.

            So develop a little quick system that time and again provides results. Sell it for $20. Then nail them for the big stuff.

            Exactly this. I think everyone of a certain age will have enough life experience to know that the majority of people in marketing are full of shit and will claim to be this and that.

            As soon as you cans show you can back up what you are saying, you are part of a very select and very small group of people who really know what they are doing and are not just another wanna be setting up shop.



            As for this Becker nonsense. Someone's ego must be extraordinarily big that it would go to the lengths of claiming to have access to Becker's back account rather than just admit his dismissal was foolish.


            First I heard of Becker was going through his paid ROI seo course a friend had. It was very high quality stuff. He has lots of quality sites ranked. Same as the guys at OMG, with who he's an associate. Maybe even a better course. His copywriting advice is great too.

            He's taught a lot of people SEO who have gone on to makes 10's of thousands in client SEO. These guys are now selling courses in their own right. He's associated with some big SEO firms.

            Becker knows his shit simple as that, same as Deiss, same as the guys at OMG. They have their detractors, resentful people who won't attain their success (some screw ball even hits his site with negative SEO out of spite. Is that you?) But Becker's list is large, 100,000 he says. And he sells great info courses. Not junk. Why would he not be a millionaire? Some of his course are 2 k.

            I know when someone knows what they are on about and are an expert in a subject, and his has more than enough proof in just the stuff and examples he does show that he's a exceptional marketer.
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    • Profile picture of the author massiveray
      Do you know Alex Becker? I do

      Have you seen his bank accounts? I have

      You shouldn't believe everything a charismatic guy tells you in videos.

      Millions? Bahahaha

      Originally Posted by Underground View Post

      Why is it only on this place do I see so many people dismissing or shitting on things that actually work?

      Becker makes millions. His approach to getting clients make him a lot of money. And he doesn't need to be out there cold calling are practising other long-winded methods.

      He's found a smarter way.

      Yet the experts here come on a sneer about that not being 'selling'. Jesus Christ.

      What is the point of selling? To make sales? Or to go and prove how you are a real sales person because you can turn a few prospects out of hundreds contacted who didn't know anything about your product 10 minutes before into a new customer.

      Whatever is most effective at generating sales should be used. Ewan shared the ideal way on this thread.

      Have a low priced, irresistable, high-converting offer and then do like Becker suggests and get that infront of the right people.

      Forget all this bullshit about selling being this or that, and that it means going out and trying to convince people. That's the long, arduous, less profitable way in this day and age.

      Just watching a video from a Ryan Deiss course. About splintering, as he calls it.

      He worked with a marketing firm selling SEO and PPC. They were lucky to get 3 clients a month at $500, from a booth at trade show of 5000 businesses in attendance.

      Deiss had them offer a tiny $20 service setting up and optimising a Google + page, and a little company branded adwords campaign.

      At another trade show with the new splintered service with 2000 people, 87 bought the $20 offer. 19 of those buyers converted to the $500 a month offer.

      23 more converted later after follow up.

      Before that, each trade show averaged 3 people at $500 a month.

      After that, 42 new clients a month. $21,300 just from one show.

      They did what Ewan suggested, had a very high-converting offer, and had the same principle Becker mentioned about the hot-dog stand and getting infront of the right people.

      Yet Ewan drops something that will actually help the OP more than anything, it's more refuted than anything. Strange.
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      • Profile picture of the author JKirby
        Originally Posted by massiveray View Post

        You shouldn't believe everything a charismatic guy tells you in videos.
        He honestly looks like a wimpy version of Thor.



        Anyway... despite what Becker does or doesn't do or have, using effective sales funnels with segmentation sales attached to them drastically increases conversion rates of the main offer in every industry.

        That's why consultants can literally overnight increase a client's profits by implementing this system. The catch is, that it HAS to be irresistible, instantaneous and the best work/service/product ever.
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      • Profile picture of the author Underground
        Originally Posted by massiveray View Post

        Do you know Alex Becker? I do

        Have you seen his bank accounts? I have

        You shouldn't believe everything a charismatic guy tells you in videos.

        Millions? Bahahaha
        You haven't seen his bank accounts. WTF is wrong with you?
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        • Profile picture of the author massiveray
          Originally Posted by Underground View Post

          You haven't seen his bank accounts. WTF is wrong with you?
          Haha nothing weird, he showed me. Kinda weird that the only thing you took from that post is that I had seen his bank account.

          You notice that a lot of what your defence of him relies on taking the word of a guy who is making money from you.

          If you made millions and were associated with "big SEO firms" would you sell your secrets to anybody with a few dollars.

          He is excellent at marketing himself, he has carved out a lucrative niche for himself, and he is great at it.

          I am not a detractor at all, at one time we were close friends, and I want him to be very successful, I do think you should temper your expectations though and not believe absolutely everything you are told.

          There is substance in what he says and you can learn from him, but don't assume it is so easy.
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          • Profile picture of the author 9999
            Deiss had them offer a tiny $20 service setting up and optimising a Google + page, and a little company branded adwords campaign.
            This would be a great foot in the door. Wonder how long it took them to optimize the Google + Page.
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            • Profile picture of the author savidge4
              Originally Posted by 9999 View Post

              This would be a great foot in the door. Wonder how long it took them to optimize the Google + Page.

              Just a wee bit past minutes. maybe an hour or so. here is a real good guide to getting started Free Download: A Practical Guide to Improving SEO with Google+

              Are people noticing that the "bait' as Ewen calls it all work towards what the final offer is; that being SEO?

              A quick development of Google+ can and will bring just short of instant results. Further development brings long lasting benefits. And before anyone jumps my throat and quotes John Mueler... my tail end it don't effect search engine results.. Nuff said on that!
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  • Profile picture of the author Underground
    You're going to continue with the lie. Fair enough. And they sly undertone of me being a gullible newb believing everything some internet marketer tells them.

    In my other posts I gave reason why he has proved his pedigree. There's lot of people in his stable making lots of money with what he teaches, plus other things. It's not simply because he said that but because there's more than enough indicators to know that he gets results.

    One day Becker pulled you aside and said hey, check out my bank account. LOL, there's only $50,000 in the dollars in there but I pretend I'm a millionaire with hundreds of ranked websites.

    So here, then, he's just like every other repulsive, low brow internet marketing creep showing fake screen shots:

    CassBecker Co Income Report

    I wonder what he'd say to your accusations but he knows how things run here.

    You're full of it mate, tbh.

    Plus, my point was that the method of advertising could deliver you hundred of leads a day, if you invest properly, and lots of new customers from those leads with the right funnel, like the Ryan Deiss thing shows.
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    • Profile picture of the author Underground
      And yes, if/when I can make info courses based around real results and methods I used in my offline business and could shows other and price them at 997 or 1997 and sell a few hundred of them a year, of course I'd do that.


      Becker's one of the few people in this internet marketing space this doesn't turn my stomach, and that's because after seeing thousands of courses, he's one of the few people out there teaching things that actually get other exceptional results.
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