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Unread 9th October 2012, 01:12 AM   #1
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Here is my full review:
1. Kreative4 delivers product quickly and provides good support.
2. product works as promised especially if you know what you are doing in terms of marketing. On my second day with it, I was already getting almost 500 unique visitors with very little effort.
3. The theme provided with this package is slow in my opinion, even with cache on. I am replacing it with another script altogether. That said, I know what I am doing, and
if you are not like me, the theme provided works, I am just not happy with it.
4. You'll need a mobile plugin for this for your mobile visitors (around 40 to 50% of my visitors are mobile visitors).
5. overall WSO delivers, especially if you are pretty familiar with running a website. It will take works from your end to promote/market it, but it's not hard, and Kreative4 does provide a marketing package with his other WSO.
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Very Helpful Team and prompt support of all my inquiries. Website is professionally done. Everything delivered as promised. Thumbs up!
Will buy from Kreative4 again.
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I am very pleased with this investment. This is the perfect opportunity in today's social atmosphere of sharing everything, especially funny stuff. It is a complete, set it and forget blog that is well optimized and search engine friendly. Should not take long to start getting a ton of traffic using the info in the bonus gift. I'm looking forward to monetizing the blog once it gets indexed (should be a few days).

I am very impressed with my blog and the top notch support. I had some challenges and questions but much to my surprise, questions were answered and challenges handled within hours, not days.

You have a high quality product, and offer top notch customer service and support. Well done sir!
Two thumbs up and five stars!
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My site is now up and running, posts now flowing through and time for me to start my social marketing to pull in the traffic.
The site has everything ready, couldn't ask for more for the price, the support was excellent and even though I had issues with my host. Communication was top notch, emails were answered straight away.
Now these sites won't get traffic on there own without a little push, if your a newbie you are given a free traffic guide that explains what sites your new site will work best with. Big thanks for setting this up, hope to do business again in the future!

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Issue solved i updated to latest version of wp which caused few things to stop working and Kreative4 has sorted the issue and saved all my current content and everything is running tickadi boo agin
great site and support is even better

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What I got:
  • A full blown fully automated website which doesn’t require your visit AT ALL (Automatically it will post pictures till 2014, and there is no Mayan apocalypse meanwhile)
  • Comfortable theme, you can mod and add whatever you want. With background color changing options which is not needed cause less glossy background = more attention towards the content and ads = more click/money.
  • Instant support from Kreative4 team for any kind of query.
What I have done in last two days:
I posted a picture from my site with a “source” link in a social networking platform of mine. Got 150+ unique visitors with some clicks on my adsense ads. Viral isnt it?
What can be done:
  • Kreative4 provides a short PDF guideline to drive traffic using social platforms. Set them up.
  • Track your website with some plugin like Clicky, and keep your eyes on it. What kind of post driving more/less traffic and how long they are staying at your site. Rest is upon you; give 10-15 minutes for 5-6 times a day to share and improve depending on your tracking research.
Monetization
  • Adsense + any advertising: It works but you will have to understand that the traffic is “fun lover” so you cannot predict an exact income at first but more traffic = more click on ads generally.
  • Flip/sell the site: Big money is there if you work ideally for 5-6 months. Social sharing DOES bring traffic with the memes Kreative4 will post on your site and a meme site with traffic is really potential in website buy/sell marketplaces. A real opportunity to make big money without doing SEO is there. Unless you fall in love with such a website with huge volume of traffic every day, your site can be a brand in one year.
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I have ordered a site and it was delivered within 3 days and site was really nice. The main thing is the customer service it is really awesome. Whenever I told something to change or add, he is doing the job immediately. I have purchased lots of sites in this wf and this is the one I enjoyed because of customer service. Now I have to do some social marketing.
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Today, i got my website running using Kreative4 service.The support is friendly and the work is like what i was looking for.
Thanks for this service, i really like it
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Really fast delivery! Within 2 days my new website is done. Site looks clean and great.
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Just made payment for the standard package. Waiting to hear from you

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I assume we have to come up with a domain name?

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Interested in a review copy. Let me know. late here, check back in the morning.

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I assume we have to come up with a domain name?
Yes, buyers & reviewers have to supply us domain and hosting. We followed the least profit pricing model to make these packages affordable for everyone. It's very tough for us to provide domain and hosting in this small profit margin. Hope you understand.
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the demo site is only images and videos, is there any content demo sites.. ?

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the demo site is only images and videos, is there any content demo sites.. ?
Funny Images that goes viral over social media are the only contents in this website. We don't put any other type of content. This websites are not like other typical blogs. These are humor blog with high potentiality to viral over social media with small social media marketing.
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Hi Kreative4,

Just made payment for Standard package, hope you can even help me with choosing a good domain for this project

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Just made payment for Standard package, hope you can even help me with choosing a good domain for this project

Order number: 4831819404
Thanks for using my service I am doing some domain research. Will send you the suggestion list asap.

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Yes, buyers & reviewers have to supply us domain and hosting. We followed the least profit pricing model to make these packages affordable for everyone. It's very tough for us to provide domain and hosting in this small profit margin. Hope you understand.
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What I meant was if you will be choosing the domain name or can I design my own logo and choose my domain name. I will supply that and can you just build it and schedule posts?

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What I meant was if you will be choosing the domain name or can I design my own logo and choose my domain name. I will supply that and can you just build it and schedule posts?
We will send a list of available relevant domain names. You can choose from them or can go with your own choice. After purchasing domain, you have to provide us hosting and we will take care of the rest from logo, fevicon to final design.

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Just ordered. Interesting to see how this goes.

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Is this adsense safe?
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Ofcourse it is adsense safe. All the contents are royalty free, copyright free and no pornography or racist image. 9Gag, DamnLOL etc are premium adsense publisher.
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Hi Kreative4
Just ordered Advanced Edition
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sample site looks great
I already have entertainment website can you provide the content only and how much it will cost me

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I already have entertainment website can you provide the content only and how much it will cost me
Thanks for your interest. Sorry to inform you that, we are not providing partial service at this moment. Actually our service is a total package of design, contents and strategy to get the best out of it and we are trying to keep it that way. Optimized design, manual scheduling, manual optimization and more.

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Just ordered Standard package.

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Like to order a standard package, 3 questions:
1. I'd like to use my domain already registered, does it ok?
If not, I can register a new domain.
Also, I'll install WP and give you user name and password, right?
2. How many words in each post?
3. How many days should I give an impersonal and fair-and-square review if I take a review copy?

Provide high quality High PR Backlinks, all links are Dofollow, Homepage, PR3+!
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Like to order a standard package, 3 questions:
1. I'd like to use my domain already registered, does it ok?
If not, I can register a new domain.
Also, I'll install WP and give you user name and password, right?
2. How many words in each post?
3. How many days should I give an impersonal and fair-and-square review if I take a review copy?
Thanks for your interest in our service. Here is the information you asked:
1. Domain selection depends on you. We will send a relevant domain suggestion list. You can pick on from there or can proceed with your own choice. That is totally your choice.
We will require cPanel detail or FTP & PHPMyadmin detail to complete the task from you.
2. These blogs doesn't have text content. All the contents are images with high potential to go viral on social medias. All the contents are sorted out manually and posted manually to get the best out of this service.
3. Our review campaign is for one month. You are good to post your feedback within this time period.
I recommend checking out our demo site to get a clear idea: Fun Blog - Just for Fun
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Are you offer any content blog instead of FUN Blog?

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This blogs have content. Multimedia contents. I guess you asked for text content blog. Not offering any right now.

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Ordered on 17 OCT ... You said delivery in 3 Days ... But till now my site is not ready.
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Thanks for your quick reply. Recieved your mail regarding my completed order. Have to review your work. Once i am done with the review i will post it.

Hey thanks for the extra gift you sent me in the mail.
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Well just got my site. Very simple theme which keeps the attention on the content. Nice custom header but the strength of this package is the content. Post are created through 2014 so its a set and forget website. The seo on each post is done correctly so I have no worry's about these pages getting ranked or indexed. the quality of the post are excellent meaning they will make you smile and that's the point of this website. If people come to your website and have good emotions going their they will come back, book mark it, and share it. that makes it viral. You get traffic. This is worth 3x what it is being offered for compared to other websites that may get a one time visitor but doubt they ever want to come back again. repeat and sharing is the core to any websites growth.....in a natural way. great job. Thank you.

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Well just got my site. Very simple theme which keeps the attention on the content. Nice custom header but the strength of this package is the content. Post are created through 2014 so its a set and forget website. The seo on each post is done correctly so I have no worry's about these pages getting ranked or indexed. the quality of the post are excellent meaning they will make you smile and that's the point of this website. If people come to your website and have good emotions going their they will come back, book mark it, and share it. that makes it viral. You get traffic. This is worth 3x what it is being offered for compared to other websites that may get a one time visitor but doubt they ever want to come back again. repeat and sharing is the core to any websites growth.....in a natural way. great job. Thank you.
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Just ordered Standard Package
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Hi Kreative Great Service, May i know
1) what work i should do after i take the service from you.
2) How much traffic can i expect after a month
3) Can i use adsense ads, since it has no content, so worrying a little
4) If not adsense, can u suggest other means of monetization.
5) Please send me some of the domains available.

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Hi Kreative Great Service, May i know
1) what work i should do after i take the service from you.
2) How much traffic can i expect after a month
3) Can i use adsense ads, since it has no content, so worrying a little
4) If not adsense, can u suggest other means of monetization.
5) Please send me some of the domains available.

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Thanks for your interest in my service. Here is the information you asked for:
1. We will build and put your website in total automation. This includes content, design and custom graphics. All you have to do is small scale marketing, mostly in social media to build traffic. Our contents are highly potential and proven to go viral on social medias. Consider working 30-60 mins a day.
2. Traffic depends on your effort of marketing. From our experience a daily 30 minutes marketing is enough to drive 5000 page view a month initially. These contents are very user friendly. People will bookmark, share etc your website. This way it will be on autopilot after 2-3 month. But we recommend continuing the marketing as the website has potential to reach 100K+ UV a month in one year.
3. Adsense have no problem with multimedia contents. 9Gag, DamnLol etc monetize their traffic with Adsense. All the contents are royalty and copyright free. So there is no chance to get into trouble with Adsense.
4. These sites are build for general internet user. So you can monetize them with out methods like Amazon, CPA, PPV, List building or even Flipping.
5. Domains suggestions is currently available to our customer only.
Lemme know if you have anymore questions.

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Here's my review of the service. Kreative4 build a website with a simple, clean design which is perfect for the subject matter. Visitors will focus on the viral images and the ads around them, which is what you want. Have to say the service is great, super friendly. The guys are willing to answer any question on how to operate the site. Recommended.
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Here's my review of the service. Kreative4 build a website with a simple, clean design which is perfect for the subject matter. Visitors will focus on the viral images and the ads around them, which is what you want. Have to say the service is great, super friendly. The guys are willing to answer any question on how to operate the site. Recommended.
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only one question. Please reply as I am new on warriorforum and dont know much how to earn money online or through website.

If i ordered you for advanced edition and after completing my website, how can I earn money through this, as I dont have any google adsense account, I only confuse about the earning of money. Please guide in detail. I will be very happy for this.

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only one question. Please reply as I am new on warriorforum and dont know much how to earn money online or through website.

If i ordered you for advanced edition and after completing my website, how can I earn money through this, as I dont have any google adsense account, I only confuse about the earning of money. Please guide in detail. I will be very happy for this.

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The equation of earning money through websites is simple. You put valuable contents for your users. You market your websites and grow regular user base and then you put ads or offers that you think your users will like. And you make money.
After you receive your website from us, you have do small scale social media campaign like 30 minutes a day to grow the initial traffic. We provide a small report on how to do it to our customers as a gift. Along with that, you will get regular guidance from us. It is not included in the package but hey we are some nice guys
Adsense is not the only monetization method for these websites. You can promote CPA offers, Amazon products, list building or even can flip the website. You can also apply for adsense with this website. But adsense requires 90days old site to get approved. So it will take time. The possibility of these websites are immense.

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I am pleased to say I have never seen a site build traffic this fast. Social bookmarking with this kind of site is very effective and apparently very viral. : )

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