The #1 Mistake Made By PPC Newbies & How To Avoid It

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I read the threads in this forum to get insight on what people that are new to PPC marketing are experiencing. This helps me with my business. I own a programmatic ppc traffic network and it's successful. Because of this I get a unique bird's eye view of what works as well as what doesn't. I review support tickets and this allows me to know what problems people have and what the solutions are. I'm not a "guru" but I'm a successful businessman in the global digital marketing space with an established brand and presence. Some of my clients are some of the world's top brands and companies as well as few celebrities and public public figures. I'm saying this to inform you of qualifications for informing you of what you are about to learn, not brag or boast. What I have to convey will indeed help anyone that is new to ppc marketing.

So now, let's dig in and get to the point. The number one reason that most people that are new to ppc marketing fail or lose money is not because their funnels or landing pages. It's not because of the sales copy or image placement. It's not the lack of using psychological triggers. The reason that most ppc marketing newbies fail is because of unrealistic expectations and not knowing enough. Sounds weird, right? Let me explain with an analogy. When people go on a vacation or travel, they choose their clothing based on the weather at their destination. If people do not do this then there is a high probability that a person would be improperly dressed for the weather during their vacation, right? Now, just say that the vacation destination is your goal which would be a desirable outcome for your ad campaign.
If you don't do not have a clear understanding of what to expect, then no matter what you do, the odds will be against you. Are we at an understanding on this? For those that did not get what I just stated, allow me to make my point more clear: If you subscribe to idea of an unrealistic outcome, you will never reach a realistic goal.

There are dominating narratives and myths about PPC marketing that are inconsistent with reality and with this post I will destroy the core those lies and inform you of what realistic expectations truly are. Forget about what EVERY ppc marketing guru has ever said. These so-called "gurus" want you to think that they are the traffic masters. The real traffic masters are PPC traffic network owners, hands down. No other type of person or company within the digital marketing industry is legitimately in any kind of position to know more about internet traffic than the traffic providers and high volume publishers. Even the "gurus" buy traffic from companies like mine. Selling traffic is what has made google what it is.

It is disrespectful and insulting to a person's intelligence to make person that is new to ppc marketing think that they can start making thousands or millions of dollars in short order and without spending at least a little money. Take a look at the many sales pages and WSOs that the "gurus" and so-called "experts" have.....do you notice that most have a common message that is subtly or blatantly conveyed? What is it? It's the idea that you can make something from nothing. No matter what anybody says, that is crap notion in the ppc marketing space. You most certainly will spend some money in order to generate more money. The "Free Traffic" products.....some of them work but NONE of them will or can deliver the amount of traffic that you need to grow or really make some significant money.....and the people selling these products will never say what i just told you. They want you to buy their products, this is how they are really making their money.

Don't listen to anybody that cannot show you real clients that are outside of the digital marketing space. Digital marketers make up a very small percentage of the world's population. If the person you are listening to about digital marketing cannot show you REAL clients, do not trust what they say. It's good to promote affiliate products but everybody who is anybody knows that the best money comes from business clients and contracts.

Another common lie or myth is that cheap clicks are the best.....yeah, only for your budget but not for your ROI. I am not saying that it hasn't been done by somebody somewhere, but as a ppc traffic network owner I have never seen a profitable campaign campaign for any ad campaign that only spent $0.01 or less per click. It is unrealistic to expect a successful ad campaign to come from the cheapest traffic you can find which brings me to the next myth or lie about ppc marketing....bot clicks and click fraud.

All of the major ad networks serve crap traffic at high prices. This includes Facebook and Google. A lot of the clicks that people and businesses buy from these ad networks are worthless. Don't think so? Go ahead....run an ad with an average or below average budget and let me know about the results. You can use something like click tale or crazyegg to see everything for yourself.

To make big money promoting anything on the major ad networks you will indeed need a big budget....hundreds to thousands of dollars just for testing. There is a lot of risk. There is a high chance that you will lose money and lot of it if you do not know what you are doing. If you know what you are doing then you know that you need expensive tools to get the job done. Most people can't afford the tools or the budget required to make big money or a high ROI with the major ad networks. That's just the truth....consider the average cpc rates and bid minimums across the board. Wild, right? Yeah.

Some people think that they should be seeing conversions or leads coming after 50 or 100 clicks. That's crap. You will need to run on average 300 to 1,000 clicks to test anything for profitability. Show me an ad campaign that made big money with less clicks than that and I will show you a unicorn with a rainbow coming out of it's a$$.

Direct linking does not work well for most promotions. Always capture the lead. If you are not capturing leads, you are totally screwing up and need to stop everything that you are doing. One of the primary purposes of ALL digital marketing is LEAD GENERATION. Why? Because leads are the lifeblood of any and every business. The lead always comes before the sale. So, if you are not capturing your leads before you send them to your offer or promotion, you are totally skipping the lead generation process and because of that you can never get to the lead engagement and nurturing process. Think about it....you hear it all of the time....the money is in the list.

Split-testing is FUNDAMENTAL and ESSENTIAL with ppc marketing. If you are not split-testing your creatives, landing pages and funnels I can assure you that your results will not be good or anything of what you want or desire. Split-testing......DO IT. This means that you have to make landing pages and banners, etc. Do not be lazy.....DO IT. It's necessary.

That's all for now but I will continue this thread. Let me know your thoughts.
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  • Profile picture of the author CurtisSWN
    Wow, I guess that means that if I invest $2 today I WON'T get $30 back tomorrow according to the latest CPA WSO that has hit the lists....
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  • Profile picture of the author r10gordon90
    that was encouraging... Even though what your saying might be factual. what would you suggest to newbies like me who are starting in PPC... i have small budget($100-200 per month) and is getting results as i just have to track and analyze.. being that you have such "in depth" knowledge/anaylsis of the ppc industry.. whats your "in depth" recommendation/tips to us newbies?

    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author artie7
    I'm also new on PPC, and will be interested in your recommendations as well. I've been following some good articles/guides on internet, and not bought any"guru" training. So far, I've been able to start a small campaign in 2nd tier PPC networks, but just for learning purposes. What resources will you recommend to read? specially on the mailing list lead generation strategies while promoting CPA offers??
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    • Profile picture of the author Jordan Stark
      Artie and Gordon.....you two seem to be having similar issues. I don't want to blanket solution for the both of you because you both may not be running the same ad campaigns. Let me know where you are at with what you are doing and what you are promoting and I will help you....no charge and I will post everything here on this thread so that you guys and others can reference it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Stark
    Before promoting ANYTHING, you should always test a promotion. I usually do this via email. I have list building campaigns running 24/7/365. Leads are the lifeblood of any business. Because of this it is important to be able to generate LEADS. Leads come before sales, especially sales in significant amounts. You have to then engage and nurture your leads. The all time best way to do engage leads is via email. Take a look at marketingcharts.com to see the latest traffic statistics. Email is still #1. However....paid advertising is the king when it comes to traffic...SEO coming in at second in terms of overall impact and gains. Money is made where money is being spent. Paid digital advertising will always provide the best results with SEO as a compliment to your digital marketing operations.

    The key to taking the right mental approach to PPC marketing is this....the aim and purpose of ppc marketing is LEAD GENERATION. Always get the lead first. Single opt-in works best and a Facebook app works better. Split-test with the 2 in various ways. Understand that when capturing leads, you will indeed get some dud emails if you use a single opt-in. With a Facebook app you get an actual real email 90% of the time. Most often, I have seen comparable results with both the single opt-in and Facebook apps. Anyways....this is important: Not only do you want the lead's email but you also want them to take a specific set of actions in a series of micro commitments. The more micro commitments that you can get a lead to act on, the higher the probability of a desired outcome or yield. It is a very simple natural principle, amongst others, that when properly applied....allows the best marketers to perform as they do. This is why the 2 step Single Opt-in process is so effective. The other side and most important aspect of the lead generation process is your funnel. This is where you engage and nurture your leads. There are many ways to do this. I developed my own way and it works.

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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Stark
    This one is with PPC traffic and Covert Commissions:

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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Stark
    I does not matter if you are promoting your own business or an affiliate promotion/CPA offer......ALWAYS get the lead first and be sure to have a solid funnel and don't be lazy with it. You will definitely get whatever you put into it.
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    • Profile picture of the author r10gordon90
      Great analysis Jordan.. I've definitely got some good nuggets from your knowledge. .. So its best to use PPC mainly for list building and building relationship with that list.. i never DL always use a LP but i after they optin i normally redirect them to the offer is that a good practice?

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Jordan Stark
        Originally Posted by r10gordon90 View Post

        Great analysis Jordan.. I've definitely got some good nuggets from your knowledge. .. So its best to use PPC mainly for list building and building relationship with that list.. i never DL always use a LP but i after they optin i normally redirect them to the offer is that a good practice?

        Thanks
        Yes, that is a good practice....it is the front end of a single opt-in lead funnel. Split-test a regular SOI with a 2 step SOI and a Facebook App to see which performs best. I think you will be surprised. Directing to the offer after the opt-in is good however...remember what I said about micro commitments? 1 is good, 3 to 5 is better depending on what is being promoted and what type of funnel you setup. I like to use a click through page after the opt-in which is a simple page with a hyperlinked button. When the lead clicks that button they are then taken to a page that further generates interest or to the promo page, again depending on what is being promoted and what type of funnel is being used.

        And yes, hands down...PPC marketing is best for LEAD GENERATION....and that is simply getting people into your funnel.
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    • Profile picture of the author artie7
      Originally Posted by Jordan Stark View Post

      I does not matter if you are promoting your own business or an affiliate promotion/CPA offer......ALWAYS get the lead first and be sure to have a solid funnel and don't be lazy with it. You will definitely get whatever you put into it.

      First, I wanted to say thanks for sharing all this info. Next, since I'm still new on the CPA marketing goal, I'll like to ask:

      Your advice sounds very reasonable: keep your leads to yourself, however most CPA offers will pay you for lead generation, that's the whole purpose of advertisers paying you to redirect traffic to this offer. If that's so, then I don't know how this recommendation will work... could you elaborate a little more on this?
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      • Profile picture of the author CurtisSWN
        These are basic questions about CPA. If you send them only to one offer or email submit, etc, they are going to be gone and never coming back. Setting up a list funnel allows you to keep them and send other offers to.

        They are targeted but you need to warm them up over time to make sales. This is done only through a list. Otherwise you'll burn through your leads and not make 90% of the sales you could have. CPA is just another form of affiliate marketing with the same principles involved.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jordan Stark
        Originally Posted by artie7 View Post

        First, I wanted to say thanks for sharing all this info. Next, since I'm still new on the CPA marketing goal, I'll like to ask:

        Your advice sounds very reasonable: keep your leads to yourself, however most CPA offers will pay you for lead generation, that's the whole purpose of advertisers paying you to redirect traffic to this offer. If that's so, then I don't know how this recommendation will work... could you elaborate a little more on this?

        CPA offers are a supplemental aspect of the overall lead generation process for anybody that wants to make serious money. However, you can still make good money with CPA offers. With CPA marketing you get paid for the lead...not the lead generation process. It is very important that you understand the true concept of what you are doing otherwise, you will get to your destination improperly dressed so to speak. ALWAYS get the lead first. There are exceptions but from what I know, a lead is worth more to me on my list than it is on somebody else's list....somebody else is not going to share their list with me. Think about it....what are they paying you for? LEADS ARE THE LIFEBLOOD OF ANY BUSINESS. If somebody is willing to pay you, for example, $1.25 for an email submit.....the lead must be worth more than $1.25 to them right? YES. Do not let these "gurus" and so-called "experts" fool you into direct linking. With mobile, there are exceptions but primarily, ALWAYS get the lead. No matter what....get the lead first.
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        • Profile picture of the author Digital00
          Originally Posted by Jordan Stark View Post

          CPA offers are a supplemental aspect of the overall lead generation process for anybody that wants to make serious money. However, you can still make good money with CPA offers. With CPA marketing you get paid for the lead...not the lead generation process. It is very important that you understand the true concept of what you are doing otherwise, you will get to your destination improperly dressed so to speak. ALWAYS get the lead first. There are exceptions but from what I know, a lead is worth more to me on my list than it is on somebody else's list....somebody else is not going to share their list with me. Think about it....what are they paying you for? LEADS ARE THE LIFEBLOOD OF ANY BUSINESS. If somebody is willing to pay you, for example, $1.25 for an email submit.....the lead must be worth more than $1.25 to them right? YES. Do not let these "gurus" and so-called "experts" fool you into direct linking. With mobile, there are exceptions but primarily, ALWAYS get the lead. No matter what....get the lead first.
          For some reason, this made a whole lot of sense. However, can't discount direct linking. I think it should be added to the mix with getting the lead. Just my thoughts.......

          By the way, where in Hawaii are you from?
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          • Profile picture of the author Jordan Stark
            Originally Posted by Digital00 View Post

            For some reason, this made a whole lot of sense. However, can't discount direct linking. I think it should be added to the mix with getting the lead. Just my thoughts.......

            By the way, where in Hawaii are you from?
            Yes, there are some needs for direct linking but the best money comes from leads that you generate, engage and nurture. I live on 2 islands here in Hawaii, Oahu & Maui. I work from the beach most days.
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            • Profile picture of the author Digital00
              Originally Posted by Jordan Stark View Post

              Yes, there are some needs for direct linking but the best money comes from leads that you generate, engage and nurture. I live on 2 islands here in Hawaii, Oahu & Maui. I work from the beach most days.
              Agreed! Jordan, would love to pick your brain on the last part of that equation. So I see you are on the northshore side of Oahu. Nice! Can't beat the beaches.
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        • Profile picture of the author r10gordon90
          Originally Posted by Jordan Stark View Post

          CPA offers are a supplemental aspect of the overall lead generation process for anybody that wants to make serious money. However, you can still make good money with CPA offers. With CPA marketing you get paid for the lead...not the lead generation process. It is very important that you understand the true concept of what you are doing otherwise, you will get to your destination improperly dressed so to speak. ALWAYS get the lead first. There are exceptions but from what I know, a lead is worth more to me on my list than it is on somebody else's list....somebody else is not going to share their list with me. Think about it....what are they paying you for? LEADS ARE THE LIFEBLOOD OF ANY BUSINESS. If somebody is willing to pay you, for example, $1.25 for an email submit.....the lead must be worth more than $1.25 to them right? YES. Do not let these "gurus" and so-called "experts" fool you into direct linking. With mobile, there are exceptions but primarily, ALWAYS get the lead. No matter what....get the lead first.
          Wow! Never looked at it that way. thanks for the insight.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tonester
    Wow, fantastic post. Thank you Jordan.
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  • Profile picture of the author myattitude
    I've been in the MMO niche for a while but only recently started looking at PPC for traffic - what ballpark CPC do you pay for MMO keywords? I'd imagine they're quite high which would make getting an ROI a bit harder.

    Thanks for your excellent thread.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jordan Stark
      Originally Posted by myattitude View Post

      I've been in the MMO niche for a while but only recently started looking at PPC for traffic - what ballpark CPC do you pay for MMO keywords? I'd imagine they're quite high which would make getting an ROI a bit harder.

      Thanks for your excellent thread.

      This question brings something to the forefront that is VERY important....COSTS. I personally start out with a $0.10 to $0.20 CPC bid for testing. I will increase that if results are good or I may keep it the same. That all depends on performance. However, my ad network allows me to also set a CPA as well and the system will programmatically target the desired leads and actions for me. I do not pay for ads anywhere else other than on my own ad platform and on Facebook but only for my custom audiences. Remember that it will take 100 to 300 clicks to test anything for performance so set your budget accordingly.
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    Are you guys finding the info useful so far?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Stark
    Buying traffic on a CPM (cost per mille) basis is quite possibly one of the worst things that you can do in terms of risk and cost. Due to the nature of the CPM model, you are buying impressions and not actual clicks or visits. With CPM, you are paying for your ad to be viewed. What if people see your ad and don't want to click on it? The average CTR for display ads is 0.01%. The average CPM rate is between $2 and $5. That rate can increase or be larger on the major advertising platforms. Now, imagine that if you paid $2 for 1,000 impressions but only received 10 clicks. That would be a 1% CTR or click through rate....which is much higher than the average CTR for display advertising. At this point each click costs you $0.20 each. Don't expect a conversion from only 10 clicks....remember, it takes 100 to 300+ clicks to properly test a promotion. That could end up being very expensive considering the average CTR of 0.01% for display ads. Stay away from buying traffic on a CPM basis. I assure you that you will lose more than you gain 90% of the time or more.
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