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Help !!!!!!!!! Clickbank + Bing Ads

by vt733
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Is it even possible to make money via clickbank and Bing ads through direct linking, I do not want to waste my money trying to do so and any advice would be highly appreciate. I did run a campaign with a free $55 bing coupon and just made 1 sale, beginning to think maybe it was the affiliate owner or bing themselves that bought through my affiliate link just to motivate me to carry on either the as a affilaite of the product or use the ad services, lol. But seriously any one who actually has made atleast $400 per month with clickbank and bing ads through direct linking please shed some tips and someone i can follow to get those type of results???
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  • Profile picture of the author seoaceindia
    For Bing Ads, you need to create a landing page which contain a CB hop link.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    There's a thread about this in the PPC section.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/pay-per-...till-work.html

    Making 1 sale from $55 ad spend using direct linking sounds typical. Did you use tracking so you know which keyword made the sale?

    It's possible to make money via CB and Bing ads through direct linking, but it's very difficult because the conversion rates are generally low unless you bid on product name keywords, but the problem with the latter option is that those keywords are expensive (about $1+ CPC) unless the product is very obscure. So you can see the problem why direct linking isn't a good business decision.
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    • Profile picture of the author vt733
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      There's a thread about this in the PPC section.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/pay-per-...till-work.html

      Making 1 sale from $55 ad spend using direct linking sounds typical. Did you use tracking so you know which keyword made the sale?

      It's possible to make money via CB and Bing ads through direct linking, but it's very difficult because the conversion rates are generally low unless you bid on product name keywords, but the problem with the latter option is that those keywords are expensive (about $1+ CPC) unless the product is very obscure. So you can see the problem why direct linking isn't a good business decision.
      Hi Cooli1,

      Thanks for your info, unfortunately i have not used a tracking method yet because I did not want to spend from my pocket yet but I know how important tracking is, I was just trying to see how this direct linking strategy played out. Thanks for you insight...
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      • Profile picture of the author cooler1
        Originally Posted by vt733 View Post

        Hi Cooli1,

        Thanks for your info, unfortunately i have not used a tracking method yet because I did not want to spend from my pocket yet but I know how important tracking is, I was just trying to see how this direct linking strategy played out. Thanks for you insight...
        Tracking is free if you use Prosper 202, although you need a domain to install it to.

        Originally Posted by vt733 View Post

        Cool man, how about just a blog post reviewing the product with affiliate links, have you tried any method yourself?
        In the post below Solarwarrior evaluates someone's landing page which didn't convert, mentioning that it isn't a good idea to start with a review.

        http://www.warriorforum.com/pay-per-...l#post10052649

        One of the main reason why you failed is because you started with a review.

        A review only works if you are targeting people who are interested and heard of the clickbank product.

        If you are trying to do a review for people who never heard of it, you need to start with some form of rapport by educating them with your knowledge on how to build a great shed.

        Thereafter, you close them with an irresistible offer. (perhaps with bonuses?)
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  • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
    I'm continually amazed that this sort of question even gets asked.

    First, the fact that your offer is listed at ClickBank (or JVZoo, or Share a Sale, or Amazon, or any other marketplace) is immaterial.

    If a particular PRODUCT doesn't convert, it doesn't convert.

    Which affiliate platform the vendor has chosen to list it on is really of no consequence.

    Second, while there are differences in how targeted your audience may be using different PPC ad networks (and that will impact your conversion rates), direct linking to any offer is generally a much less effective strategy than capturing leads from those ads so that you can employ effective pre-sales tactics with repeated follow up.

    The attraction of direct linking from PPC to offer is that you can very definitively compare ad spend to the revenue level attained from that ad spend. The problem is that unless you collect leads from your PPC efforts, you will never get a second chance to sell to that same audience without paying (once again) to reach that same audience.

    If you capture the lead before linking to an offer, you not only get a second (and thrid, etc.) chance to sell that offer, but also the opportunity to promote other offers to that same set of leads in the future.
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    • Profile picture of the author vt733
      Originally Posted by Sid Hale View Post

      I'm continually amazed that this sort of question even gets asked.

      First, the fact that your offer is listed at ClickBank (or JVZoo, or Share a Sale, or Amazon, or any other marketplace) is immaterial.

      If a particular PRODUCT doesn't convert, it doesn't convert.

      Which affiliate platform the vendor has chosen to list it on is really of no consequence.

      Second, while there are differences in how targeted your audience may be using different PPC ad networks (and that will impact your conversion rates), direct linking to any offer is generally a much less effective strategy than capturing leads from those ads so that you can employ effective pre-sales tactics with repeated follow up.

      The attraction of direct linking from PPC to offer is that you can very definitively compare ad spend to the revenue level attained from that ad spend. The problem is that unless you collect leads from your PPC efforts, you will never get a second chance to sell to that same audience without paying (once again) to reach that same audience.

      If you capture the lead before linking to an offer, you not only get a second (and thrid, etc.) chance to sell that offer, but also the opportunity to promote other offers to that same set of leads in the future.
      Thanks for your views, yes you are absolutely correct when stating one gets to know how much he made in relation to how much he spent. your comment on if a product doesnt convert it doesnt convert which in my understanding means it really doesnt matter the strategy used was direct linking or lead capturing, so in that case maybe the problem was my keywords which was not "buyer keywords". Hmm
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex65
    Absolutely NEVER use direct linking promoting affiliate offers.

    Use a bridge page.

    You need to describe your offer (or better, offers!) and explain to visitors why buy (or to act when you're doing CPA marketing).
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  • Profile picture of the author williamstout
    A simple answer to your query, Bing does not allow direct linking of affiliate offers in the ads and ends up suspending the account.

    If I answer in detail, it's always advisable to direct your PPC traffic to a landing page first where you offer them a free report or a gift in exchange of an email and then use their email to promote the affiliate product. This helps increase your CTR and ROI and generates sales otherwise hardly anyone buys with cold traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author vt733
      Originally Posted by williamstout View Post

      A simple answer to your query, Bing does not allow direct linking of affiliate offers in the ads and ends up suspending the account.

      If I answer in detail, it's always advisable to direct your PPC traffic to a landing page first where you offer them a free report or a gift in exchange of an email and then use their email to promote the affiliate product. This helps increase your CTR and ROI and generates sales otherwise hardly anyone buys with cold traffic.
      Cool man, how about just a blog post reviewing the product with affiliate links, have you tried any method yourself?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kiwigal
      Originally Posted by williamstout View Post

      A simple answer to your query, Bing does not allow direct linking of affiliate offers in the ads and ends up suspending the account.

      If I answer in detail, it's always advisable to direct your PPC traffic to a landing page first where you offer them a free report or a gift in exchange of an email and then use their email to promote the affiliate product. This helps increase your CTR and ROI and generates sales otherwise hardly anyone buys with cold traffic.
      Bing does allow direct linking.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    I will never run a PPC ads like Bing on a direct clickbank link without using a landing page and building my list.

    Big sites do it not to talk of an affiliate with less than 40% commission rate.
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  • Profile picture of the author satyaprakash75per
    Search for targeted keywords, Get a ad coupon and try again with bing ads. Landing page is a must. You can just refer it to your offer directly
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  • Profile picture of the author TrackingDesk
    Using a tracking software is a cardinal rule in order to make sure you actually know what you buy generates a positive/negative ROI.
    1. Research - Keywords
    2. Setup your initial landing page
    3. Setup your tracking
    4. Analyse initial results
    5. Remove bad keywords
    6. Adjust your bids
    7. Analyse results
    8. Adjust your bids
    9. Build a new landing page
    10. Run the same test with the new landing page
    11. Analyse
    12. Adjust bids
    13. Keep the best landing page
    Etc.. etc...

    But without a proper tracking software that let you do all of the above easily, you will loose time and resources.

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author b100
      Originally Posted by TrackingDesk View Post

      Using a tracking software is a cardinal rule in order to make sure you actually know what you buy generates a positive/negative ROI.
      1. Research - Keywords
      2. Setup your initial landing page
      3. Setup your tracking
      4. Analyse initial results
      5. Remove bad keywords
      6. Adjust your bids
      7. Analyse results
      8. Adjust your bids
      9. Build a new landing page
      10. Run the same test with the new landing page
      11. Analyse
      12. Adjust bids
      13. Keep the best landing page
      Etc.. etc...

      But without a proper tracking software that let you do all of the above easily, you will loose time and resources.

      Good luck!
      Laurent
      What tracking software do you recommend?
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  • Profile picture of the author kamikaza
    I believe, pre-selling is a MUST. You want to send traffic to your landing page first. IMO testimonial -like landing pages work the best.. Like a person genuinely talking about his positive experience with this product..

    Also it is a good idea to collect emails and do a follow up.. Sending some valuable content and then offering to buy a product under different angles.
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    • Profile picture of the author taranisman
      To stay complaint on Bing by direct linking, you need to make sure the product fits within guidelines of Bing, but direct linking can be a good way to test before committing more time and energy into an offer that isn't going to convert.

      If you can see that an offer has a little potential, then build out a landing page and optimize your campaign.

      It is rare, however, that an offer will do better without pre-selling the customer.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Linking to a CB vendor page is the most pathetic thing anyone could possibly do & still expect to make money.

    Think.

    Most CB vendor pages are setup to capture leads.

    Now you know why the vendor has an email optin form above the fold & a mile long sales page with a buy button below the fold.

    Maybe they'll send you a Christmas card for all the free traffic you've sent them over the past year.
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    • Profile picture of the author vt733
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Linking to a CB vendor page is the most pathetic thing anyone could possibly do & still expect to make money.

      Think.

      Most CB vendor pages are setup to capture leads.

      Now you know why the vendor has an email optin form above the fold & a mile long sales page with a buy button below the fold.

      Maybe they'll send you a Christmas card for all the free traffic you've sent them over the past year.
      haha good one..
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