[Journey]Going from 0 to 50$ a day steady profit with Bing and CB!

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So I was out of the IM game for a long time, finished it with some PPV successes and quit because I went studying Computer Science. But now I am after the college with normal job and my goal is to FIRE my boss and live a nomadic style for some time traveling Asia and financing this travel through IM and freelancing.

My starting point:
Have experience in Article marketing, PPV and some PPC - but not much.

So I submitted my first campaign on Bing few minutes ago. It is in the health niche.
- 5 Keyword Groups - around 12 keywords in each, phrase match only.
- 2 Ads for every keyword group
- 2 Different landing pages- completely different
- Prosper202 is used for advanced tracking - no cent will be spent without collecting data.

Bid- the product commission is 25$ so I bid 25 cent on all the keywords.
Budget - set 12$ daily and let it run for 7 days as a test, no coupons used here.

My expectation from this campaign?
I expect for 10-20 buck daily profit from it and then will see how I can scale it up!

Tomorrow I am going to check and see that the campaign is a live and running without any issues.

After 3 days I am going to do some optimization, remove the keywords that did not receive enough traffic.

So right now this campaign is at the testing the water stage. I know the niche suppose to convert because I made a lot of sales from it with Bum Marketing technique, but still must test.

So wish me luck.

In a week I am going to submit another campaign and see what's going on there.

P.S
I am using the Solar Warrior guide mixed with the thing I remember, and no he did not ask me to write it here and I am not getting anything for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hearn
    Ok keep us updated. I am not as optimistic as you but we will see. Do you send the visitors directly to the sales page?
    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Generally, the health niche is very competitive, so you might not get many clicks or impressions by bidding $0.25 on all keywords.

      Is the offer for certain countries only or for worldwide?
  • Profile picture of the author dimager2003
    Well the campaign is active for less then 12 hours now - it got 32 clicks, still no sales of course,the average cpc is 29 cents. going to wait till having around 100 clicks so I can make some optimizations for this one. I already can see which ad group has the most clicks and LP optimization must be performed for it to warm the visitors up.

    Till next update
  • Profile picture of the author dimager2003
    Well few minutes ago I got a yellow mark on almost all of my keywords which says that my bid is not enough for the first page. The bids they are suggesting are way too high for anything to be profitable. I am not going to raise my bids and see what happen next.
  • Profile picture of the author dimager2003
    OK another update which is not that good - I received a low quality score on all of the keywords and the main reason is "Landing page experience". this is very odd because I have a lot of content on the website, no autoplay stuff and a good page load time (I checked with a page load time app that said my website is i top 17%).

    I don't really know what to do next - anybody has any idea? I dont care to share in private my niche and the lander...
    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by dimager2003 View Post

      OK another update which is not that good - I received a low quality score on all of the keywords and the main reason is "Landing page experience". this is very odd because I have a lot of content on the website, no autoplay stuff and a good page load time (I checked with a page load time app that said my website is i top 17%).

      I don't really know what to do next - anybody has any idea? I dont care to share in private my niche and the lander...
      Is the content on your landing page original?
      How many advertising links do you have on your lander?
      Does your landing page have a entry/exit popup?
      Does your landing page have a contact page and a privacy policy?
      Are your ads highly relevant to your landing page content?
  • Profile picture of the author jipolis7
    Maybe the problem is you have too much content on the landing page. This doesn't have to be crowded and has to tease people into taking a closer look at your site/campaign/product.
  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    The problem with Bing is that usually you don't get much traffic. It is usually around one tenth of Google Adwords. However, Adwords is very dangerous for affiliate marketing, especially with Clickbank products. The only stuff that is relatively safe with Adwords are mainstream physical products.
  • Profile picture of the author dimager2003
    OK. Don't have any good news - I got 178 clicks, 53$ spent and still no sales. I am going back to research stage with this one campaign because I know for sure there is money to be made.

    My LPs' CTR is horrible, I got only 65~ clicks to the product page and I think there is my main failure. I am going to pause it for day or 2 until I finish the research, connect with the audience and only then I will rewrite my page. Something is not clicking there and I must fix it or this campaign goes to toilet.
  • Profile picture of the author dimager2003
    So after deep analyzing I understand the issue - most of the traffic comes from mobile and app. My website is not optimized for it but worst - the vendor's website is also not optimized for it and personally they both look pretty ugly even on High resolution mobile device. I have to think what I am going to do with this info and If I want to keep fighting for that campaign or just f*ck it. All the products in this niche do not have optimized pages and that is making my decision even harder. Will update in a few days.
  • Profile picture of the author Hearn
    Can you make an ad only for desktop? Do they even have that option? Also did you chose only Bing search engine? The other content sources are even lower quality..I saw all sort of dubious websites as referer when I forgot to check that. You get some of those even if you check Bing only.
  • Profile picture of the author dimager2003
    Of course I checked Bing only. But a lot of people do the search from online device. Biggest problem if you turn it off(I have no idea how but I can ask the support) the traffic will be pretty low and I am not sure I even want to deal with this kind of traffic. It is just too long to optimize!
  • Profile picture of the author Olavski
    Why not just create a course? I mean, after studying computer science there must be something you can make a course about? Then just brand it in 2 different products, 1 for Udemy. com and the second for a clickbank like product. Takes some time to make, but if youhave time to travel, you have most certainly time to work more...
  • Profile picture of the author celente
    bing is not that hard to master.

    With bing, make sure you do not use google tools, keywords

    use bing keyword tool.

    Then make sure your keywords are in your ads, headlines, copy and headlines on your website and just above your optin page.

    Make everything congruent, for the user from the time they enter their keywords to optin, and and get what they expect.

    Trust me, I do big numbers, and bing is awesome, after money I have spent, these are the best secrets for you.

    Video on optin pages seems to outpull, so try that maybe?
    • Profile picture of the author MooreSuccess
      Great Information and thanks for sharing your experience.

      I was running some Bing & CB campaigns but stopped to get more information since they wasn't converting as I liked.
      This thread just taught me to just keep on trying.

      One question I have ism, are you designing your landing pages yourself or do you use a company like landing pages, etc...
  • Profile picture of the author dimager2003
    I now you probably decided I quit, but I didn't. I ran a lot of failed campaigns and one of them gave me some conversions. This campaign has no future because the only converting keyword (and the only one that got good traffic) is absolutely not profitable and not going to be because it is general and pretty costy.

    If someone cares it was a gaming offer - Animal Jam.

    After trying to avoid it for so long - I am going to build a list in an evergreen niche which is in the health market. Right now I am working on my LPs - I want to split test at least 3 of them, and they must be totally different.

    OK, so I will let you know ho it goes
  • Profile picture of the author 3wCorner
    For me bidding 25 cent is too much. Can you try using different keywords with lesser bids but receive more clicks.
  • Profile picture of the author dimager2003
    Well, long time without updates but I did not give up. It was just a little harder then I thought but here are first signs of a campaign that will probably be successful



    Probably going to update more frequently from now on.
  • Profile picture of the author Hearn
    Great job! I like that you didn't give up to quickly, that's one of my main weaknesses.
  • Profile picture of the author silveroaks
    well thats the dream! travelling the world while you have a constant stream of income rolling in. and you do not have to be grounded at one place to work.
  • Profile picture of the author dimager2003
    Alright the things are going pretty good right now
    I have only one campaign running but have 5 ideas in the queue. Going to submit "thin" campaigns for these niches and put them on early testing.

    The current campaign is in the optimization level of keywords, it has a good CTR (14% stable) and pretty low cpc so it is not losing money but hardly making any. But since there is not enough data to make real optimization decisions I want it to run for at least 600$ so I can chop off all the non converting keywords, and get it to make me some money. I do not expect too much of it - 300$ profit a months will be enough since I am not building a list. Scaling big on one campaign at Bing is a little hard because of the low search volumes in most niches, and going for very competitive ones (weight loss, make money and etc...) can wait a little.

  • Profile picture of the author dimager2003
    Great news everybody

    Since my last update I submitted 2 more thin campaigns for testing.
    One of them was an immediate failure because I saw that with the CPC I am willing to pay will bring me very little traffic so I paused it until I want to expiriement again in this niche.

    The second one was submitted today and got me a sale about an hour ago Although it was a downsale and the payment was a little smaller, this campaign shows some potential

    The first one runs great, it is profitable right now and bring me a sale every day but as I said before - I need more data to make it complete so until the end of the months I will not make any optimizations on it at all.

    Getting another campaign ready but don't know if I want to submit it untill the picture gets more clear with the campaign #2 so I think I will take my time. Rush is my biggest enemy and I am not falling in this trap, once I see few more sales from the #2 I will submit the third one. Still long way to my main goal but I am not giving up

  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Great progress.

    Are you following the same bidding strategy as you outlined in your opening post i.e. bidding $0.25 if the commission is $25, or are you using a different strategy now?
    • Profile picture of the author dimager2003
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      Great progress.

      Are you following the same bidding strategy as you outlined in your opening post i.e. bidding $0.25 if the commission is $25, or are you using a different strategy now?
      No but I am trying to make my CPC a 1% out of one sale.

      Other news:


      The second campaign I submitted few days ago made another 4 sales (5 sales at all) so it is likely to be a winner. I am going to get my first check soon

      Next step is to submit 2 more thin campaigns and see the results September is supposed to be great month!

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