Bing Ads and Pay Per Call

plamen2000

10 years ago

Originally Posted by chfumar

I am doin bing ads with Pay Per Call (direct link) offers , spend $500 not a single lead convert , Please share your experience expert and senior members.

Direct link??? I don't understand. You should use the call extension instead links if you want calls.

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speedylikesKJ 10 years ago

To be honest its not working like it used to .. I miss those 0.35/conversion days on bing ...
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Muhammad Saleem Malik

10 years ago

Its mean that Bing is no more working for paypercall offers.

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espresso

10 years ago

I dont get PPCall
I mean they say the pay out $10+ on a call that lasts a minute
Most conversations will be over a minute long by the time some one introduces themselves and says what they want

And what exactly are you paying Bing for - CPM CPC?

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ringpartner 10 years ago

Most campaigns pay out after 1-3 minutes.

1-3 minutes may seem like a long time and a lot can be discussed in that time. But, the duration determines the quality of the call, longer calls = better quality.

So, if you're sending qualified calls, you will see conversions.

Hope this helps!
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bizdevsev 9 years ago

You have to find the right offer to promote as they are all different, When you deal with the networks out there they are typically the middle man (connector) of the buyer and seller for a markup. The offers on the networks make it difficult for your traffic to Payout ( make margin) Here is an example of an Offer that I have now : Student Loan Relief - Payout is $12.00 per call with a duration of :15 ( this is so we do not pay for hangups) we have affiliates that are using Facebook and RTB platforms to drive traffic to a mobile lander that is configured to drive click to call action. Pay Per Call is very lucrative but like any other business you have to know the formula and have the right offer
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Beergut

10 years ago

The catch is that the call counter doesn't start til after the caller actually connects to a live rep on a lot of these campaigns. You have to notice this when choosing a PPCall campaign to market - else you will be looking sideways scratching your head wondering why your conversions suck.

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ringpartner

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Beergut

The catch is that the call counter doesn't start til after the caller actually connects to a live rep on a lot of these campaigns. You have to notice this when choosing a PPCall campaign to market - else you will be looking sideways scratching your head wondering why your conversions suck.

Yes, many campaigns convert on a "connect duration" which only starts the clock when the caller connects to the advertiser's call center.

This means that the time in the IVR does not count. But, we don't see this hurting conversions or earnings too much. Most of our campaigns are set to convert on a connect duration and have been since day one.

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Glenn Rodgers

10 years ago

Facebook ads campaign is better then bing ads this is just useless. No traffic no conversion rate.

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plamen2000 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Glenn Rodgers

Facebook ads campaign is better then bing ads this is just useless. No traffic no conversion rate.

Which vertical did you run on Facebook? Niche?
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Javisito

10 years ago

I noticed I get far better results on Bing when I turn off content ads and focus on search results.

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emaillist

10 years ago

Originally Posted by chfumar

I am doin bing ads with Pay Per Call (direct link) offers , spend $500 not a single lead convert , Please share your experience expert and senior members.

pls read this

Pay Per Call | Commission Junction US

you are not provide any information regarding your pay per call offers.

i not know what are specifical roules in order the call may be converted in cpl.

in fact this advertising is similar with cpl offers for binary option and forex.

if the prospect(after the phone conversation) , and the evaluation of seller(broker) appear without potential for buying or investing , the lead is not real , the lead is 0.
this is my opinion.

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WebScavenger

10 years ago

You can waste a lot of money trying to market PPCall. That's why you don't hear too many people talking about it...except for maybe companies or networks that want you to join them. Hope you find a way to make your $500 back. There are better more rewarding ways to spend that type of money.

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ringpartner

10 years ago

Originally Posted by WebScavenger

You can waste a lot of money trying to market PPCall. That's why you don't hear too many people talking about it...except for maybe companies or networks that want you to join them. Hope you find a way to make your $500 back. There are better more rewarding ways to spend that type of money.

I'm sure you can waste a lot of money promoting any type of campaign.

Pay Per Call is NOT easy.

But we try to work closely with our publishers to help them become more likely to succeed.

There are many publishers doing quite well promoting pay per call.

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Beastmob

10 years ago

Originally Posted by ringpartner

I'm sure you can waste a lot of money promoting any type of campaign.

Pay Per Call is NOT easy.

But we try to work closely with our publishers to help them become more likely to succeed.

There are many publishers doing quite well promoting pay per call.

Can you do a live case-study of you (or your team) marketing and making money doing pay per call. I'd be interested in seeing this coz I am kinda interested too but all I keep hearing are horror stories about people losing money in this. This gives me low confidence in this business model so I need to see something not just hear someone talking about how much you can make. Talk it cheap I hear too much of that.

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cloudgiftcard

9 years ago

Originally Posted by ringpartner

I'm sure you can waste a lot of money promoting any type of campaign.

Pay Per Call is NOT easy.

But we try to work closely with our publishers to help them become more likely to succeed.

There are many publishers doing quite well promoting pay per call.

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- Venkat0591 10 years ago
  
  I joint Premium23.com for 3 months and the tutorials are rather basic... they're useful if you don't know the first thing about setting up ppcall campaigns but if you watch all the free webinars on youtube, it honestly doesn't add much value whatsoever...
  
  The videos are released on a weekly basis and some are just not valuable enough, e.g. one is on how to brainstorm, another is on how to set up ppclick ads which barely convert for ppcall...
  
  Some might find it quite useful though, that was just my experience, having watched everything there is to for free on youtube. I'd suggest anyone do that before spending crazy money on campaigns/ courses
  
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rafi1972

10 years ago

I kind of Feel Facebook and adwords is the best

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rafi1972 10 years ago

Originally Posted by rafi1972

I kind of Feel Facebook and adwords is the best

Iam spending every day $19 on facebook,
and $10 on adwords.

My ROI is ok Iam bring in enough just to cover the advertsing expenses,
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HelpingYouBeAnExpert

10 years ago

I have tried with bing ads to payper call (direct linking) no luck. I'm taking a break working on a video gaming sites with regular CPA but I plan to take another shot at it. What would be nice is if someone from Ring partner (and thanks for the webinars by the way) would get permission to show one old campaign from start to finish how it's setup from bing, to landing page , tracking etc. I at least feel I'm missing one item to crack this pay per call thing once and for all.

Anyway I plan to make it work sooner or later. Thanks.

Dan

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ringpartner

10 years ago

Originally Posted by HelpingYouBeAnExpert

I have tried with bing ads to payper call (direct linking) no luck. I'm taking a break working on a video gaming sites with regular CPA but I plan to take another shot at it. What would be nice is if someone from Ring partner (and thanks for the webinars by the way) would get permission to show one old campaign from start to finish how it's setup from bing, to landing page , tracking etc. I at least feel I'm missing one item to crack this pay per call thing once and for all.

Anyway I plan to make it work sooner or later. Thanks.

Dan

I'm planning to create a follow along case study, where I'll walk through a campaign set up from start to finish.

In the meantime, check out Premium23.com.

Hopefully I'll have time soon!

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Papaly

10 years ago

Typically Bing Ads you will get a lot fake visits and little to no conversions. Personally, I stay away from PPC unless they're through some type of social media channel or forum.

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fxstay

9 years ago

i think it depends on what niche you try , for example i tried both bing and google adwords with $5000 for forex trading niche but the result was really terrible

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juk123

9 years ago

Make sure you turn off search partners. Lots of fake traffic there.

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plamen2000

9 years ago

I think I know Bing Ads platform and I ran many PPCall campaigns on it and what I see is less and less conversions these days and the campaigns that previously was profitable, now they are losers. I don't know actually what turned the things, but this is what I get as results.

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bigbody300 9 years ago

I have been in paypercall for 4 years now - and IT WORKS, just need to keep at it.

BING and GOOGLE are both good.
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trinet

9 years ago

i have some good method but i can build good list and make some money by it, you can contact with me

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peterse7ven

9 years ago

i not know what are specifical roules in order the call may be converted in cpl

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cloudgiftcard

9 years ago

hey there, how many days does it take to get approved with ringpartner?

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AnarPayPerCall

9 years ago

Maybe you should try running with other networks?
some other networks allows you to use your own landing pages, and in that case you can generate calls not only with 100% legit ads.

1.CallTactics
2. KeyPoint-Media
3. MundoMedia

In case of these three networks,
three of them will give you tools of repoting, Keypoint Media will provide you most successful tool and for free (for your use with their offers), where you will be able to generate tool free numbers, generate reports and many more. they registered in Invoca for that matter, and working with them will give you an access to that also. by the way, it is the same platform that RingPartner using.

Basically if you new in PayPerCall, I suggest you to start with tech support, cause it is easy money, all you need is plan and few landing pages.

And most important, is that no one of these network won't pay you based on "duration calls"

in most of the cases, they will deal with you on raw call model,
Of course you will get lesser amount per call, but you won't lose money on calls that were disconnected before 30/60 seconds, and you won't be afraid of IVR, Busy Agents or whatsoever

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