[Alan Mater]

Hey everyone,

I'm curious to see who all is involved in the Reverse Funnel System, and if so, how you're doing with it. I don't really know anything about it at this point. But, I've seen that other people are doing very well with it.

I would like to just get some opinions on it.

Thanks,

Alan

[GT]

Originally Posted by Alan Mater

Hey everyone,

I'm curious to see who all is involved in the Reverse Funnel System, and if so, how you're doing with it. I don't really know anything about it at this point. But, I've seen that other people are doing very well with it.

I would like to just get some opinions on it.

Thanks,

Alan

Hi, Alan:

I'm still working at it, but the results have been minimal. Most of the recommended advertising sources have failed to produce any results at all for me.

Stone's co-op produced a few paid leads in the beginning, then it dried up. I was hoping he would introduce a new leadership and marketing strategy or initiative for RFS, but that has not yet materialized.

I wonder if the ones having the best experience are those who are willing to phone their prospects. I don't do that - that's why I'm into Internet Marketing.

However, having said all that, I am still working at it, testing more advertising and planning a few other things before I write it off entirely.

My opinion, as it has been from the beginning, is that you can put the same amount of time and energy into RFS as you do other opportunities, but the difference is, when you make a sale it pays so much better.

I think the opportunity and the product are good ... but I think the sales page needs to be completely redone and a few other adjustments made.

And for PIPS members, it would be nice to see some kind of RFS co-operative support program lead by Stone to help us focus better on the methods that work and to assure at least some kind of response moving through our "funnels."

GT

[Alan Mater]

Hey GT,

Thanks for the reply. I can understand your point of view. I remember when Stone started promoting RFS, and a lot of other PIPSters started following suit. It seems the RFS craze has died down so to speak. I wonder if there is a reason for that.

I just saw someone promoting it the other day and that's what inspired me to start this thread. I figured there were some here that had joined.

I imagine promoting it would be no different than promoting PIPS. Of course the suggested methods might differ. I don't plan to join anytime soon, but as I grow my PIPS business it would be nice to look into something else as well.

Thanks again,

Alan

[GT]

Hi, Alan:

There is an aspect of RFS that I have not yet pursued, but that may be of interest to home business enthusiasts looking for an angle: the Product!

The product involves travel and vacations and this is BIG, BIG business no matter what the economy is like. Use RFS to tap into this market the right way, and look out!

I just haven't had time to work on that yet.

GT

[Alan Mater]

Originally Posted by GT

Hi, Alan:

There is an aspect of RFS that I have not yet pursued, but that may be of interest to home business enthusiasts looking for an angle: the Product!

The product involves travel and vacations and this is BIG, BIG business no matter what the economy is like. Use RFS to tap into this market the right way, and look out!

I just haven't had time to work on that yet.

GT

GT,

Sounds very interesting. You're absolutely right, though. The travel biz is booming. I know of several people that are in the travel business. One company I can think of is World Ventures. There's a group of people in my town that are involved with them and hold meetings periodically. Apparently they make excellent money.

If you get a chance to pursue that area of RFS keep us posted.

Thanks,

Alan

[Patrician]

Actually guys, Stone did say he would be reconfiguring the interface between RFS and PIPS and bringing it back. I just don't know when or if he has changed his mind.

I do know that he always said Success U was the biggest money-maker - UNTIL RFS and the last I heard he felt RFS is phenomenal and (sic) the biggest money maker.

RFS of course is the funnel system for GRN which is the travel company - and that is what costs the big bucks to join as well as where the big buck commissions come in.

As GT noted above, travel is huge. Another comment that Stone made was that you could easily recover your investment from just the deep travel discounts you would receive if you are a traveler.

I have always liked the idea of things working like this. From the very first program I ever joined (Cognigen - they sell telecommunications services).

- the point is they put it in my head that if you already pay someone else for some service or product, why not buy it from yourself and get the commissions (which would act like a discount).

Looking at things that way seems really logical, as we have all struggled with paying dues to belong to programs that have not yet given us an ROI, so to be able to absorb the costs in some other way seems to me like the way to go.

In case I lost you there this was about traveling. LOL.

[Alan Mater]

Thanks, Pat.

The idea sounds great. I'll be looking forward to it if and when it's brought back. Thanks for sharing with us.

Alan

[Stephen Meyer]

My wife and I have a similar travel business (actually it's better ). We have made some money selling the program but we like the trips. It's easy to book a 3 day weekend and save a ton of money on short trips. For the small monthly fee it has been worth it. If you like to travel or want to start in the future the travel business plan would be a great buy.

I don't know about GRN but after reading the material their plan and the one I have are very close.

[talfighel]

I am not in it myself but have heard good things about it. Again, it all comes down to ADVERTISING.

Tal

[grntopmentor]

Listen the RFS is just a system to sell Global Resorts Network. The RFS takes tens of thousands of hits a day to get results. It preys on laziness and usually is followed by major buyers remorse.

It is a shame because GRN is a top notch direct sales business. The product is rock solid, the company itself is above board, and the product has tremendous value. Yes other knock offs have come out but GRN is still the grand daddy of them all.

Unfortunately many come into GRN the wrong way via the RFS. We actually teach people how to market this amazing GRN business simply. We use the grn system and YES shocking the phone. We can teach anyone how to do it. Feel free to watch the youtube video in my sig.

GRN is great just make sure you do your due diligence and figure out whether the RFS is all its cracked up to be or whether your better off learning real world sales tactics to earn $1000 per sale.

Chris

[katmeh]

I been with RFS for almost 14 month.
the first 10 month I thought what a waste.
But it was not RFS. RFS the Marketing system the whole site It is unbelievable how it converts.

somewhere in the sales page it says: "You just bring traffic" and that can't be far from truth.

[Jeff Casmer]

Hi,

Some of the mentors of the PPG have tried it and none of us had any success. All 6 of us have been successful at many different programs but we couldnt get RFS to work for us....

Not saying you cant be successful with it....but it is a big investment....

Take care
JEff Casmer

[katmeh]

I know my first 10 month nothing and I really believe it was because I did it all wrong.

[Alan Mater]

Thank you for the input everyone. I appreciate it.

I know my first 10 month nothing and I really believe it was because I did it all wrong.

Hi Katmeh,

Would you be able to explain what you think you did wrong, or what you did correct after the 10 months?

Thanks!

[katmeh]

Originally Posted by Alan Mater

Thank you for the input everyone. I appreciate it.



Hi Katmeh,

Would you be able to explain what you think you did wrong, or what you did correct after the 10 months?

Thanks!

Sure,
I tried to do things on my own.
I tried to create my own site, my own auto responder, my own massages. (Wrong)
then for marketing I tried to bet the clock.
I used all my money on Google.
Wrong. Waste of money I end up with good list but no RFS sale.
in beginning I should of used more craigslist, backpage I did n't. (It really does work)
I waste so much time trying to figure out what other people (who were saying they are making $50-60K mo.) are doing (wrong)
From beginning I should of done my own thing.
I change my ways afew month ago. I start listening to training audio, They are Good.
Then i started to attending the calls. I just follow what they suggest.
I changed my marketing views.
I am telling you those training calls are gold mine.

Like I told you my upline did not help me what so ever.I called him couple days ago to ask him a Q. His first respond to me was how many sales Do you have this week.
anyway.
are you a RFS member?

[Alan Mater]

Originally Posted by katmeh

Sure,
I tried to do things on my own.
I tried to create my own site, my own auto responder, my own massages. (Wrong)
then for marketing I tried to bet the clock.
I used all my money on Google.
Wrong. Waste of money I end up with good list but no RFS sale.
in beginning I should of used more craigslist, backpage I did n't. (It really does work)
I waste so much time trying to figure out what other people (who were saying they are making $50-60K mo.) are doing (wrong)
From beginning I should of done my own thing.
I change my ways afew month ago. I start listening to training audio, They are Good.
Then i started to attending the calls. I just follow what they suggest.
I changed my marketing views.
I am telling you those training calls are gold mine.

Like I told you my upline did not help me what so ever.I called him couple days ago to ask him a Q. His first respond to me was how many sales Do you have this week.
anyway.
are you a RFS member?

Using the training materials that programs provide can be very beneficial. It's sometimes necessary to think "outside the box" when coming up with a marketing strategy. Following in the footsteps of successful members can also lead to success, but it can sometimes hinder your ability to progress forward.

Sounds like your sponsor is a jerk. I admire you taking the initiative to "get it done" and learn things on your own. It always helps to have support, though.

[katmeh]

Yes I wish I had a good upline who told me do's and don't. But He just want another name on his team nothing more.
I found a few teams the upline created weekly conference calls (more of webinar) answered their calls all their long with issues and closing deals for them.
But When you don't have what you should have all you can do is to create it for yourself.
I totally agree with you about following successful people footsteps. the problem with that is they always leave something behind.