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I would be very interested to know how easy it would be to convert my site to a web 2.0 site. I already have a WP and Blogger blog hosted on my site. I'm not sure if they would interfere with the change over any. I don't want to lose anything I have so far. I also have an article directory on my site.

I would need someone that obviously has experience in this sort of thing. Any recommendations would be appreciated. I would either want to use WP or Joomla, but I'm leaning towards WP.

Would every page I create have to look like a WP page? Meaning, would I be able to create a generic looking page that is still hosted on my site?

I guess those are the questions I have for now. I'm seriously looking to switch over. Any help would be great.

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Hi Alan

I am no expert and can only comment on JOOMLA as I do not use WP although most people on Both PIPS and PPG swear by it enough fo rme to contemplate adding a WP site
Anyhow if you want to switch/move to WEB2.0 i would advice you ask someone to do it for you the one that did it for me and other pipsters at a reasonable price and tremendous support is Mike Law
As anything it is a learning curve even a steep one my question is do you really want to switch from what you have especially if you are doing well

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Hi Charles,

I would definitely want someone to do it for me.

My conversions aren't that great, and I think having a web 2.0 site would look much nicer and more inviting.

Is there a link you can add for me to get in touch with Mike?

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P.S. Your site looks great!

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Hi Alan

The link below explains it all and has a link to Mike

What is PIPS 2.0?

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Thanks, Charles. I'll check it out.

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What facets of Web 2.0 is that you want to implement?
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I don't see a link to get in contact with him. Can you point me in the right direction?

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What facets of Web 2.0 is that you want to implement?
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Mainly I want a content management system that makes it easy to change content on every page. Also, the look and feel of the site is more inviting than what I currently have. I want users to be able to interact with my site, like they do on my blog.

I want to be able to still keep everything I have so far including my various pages, or at least be able to use those URLS.

Hope that answers your question.

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Hi Alan
Try This

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Alan,

So did you manage to convert your site to web 2.0 site. I'm just curious about how much this will cost, the advantages and other things I should take note before doing so. I won't be doing so now but I do like to keep this information in mind. I know it will be a matter of time before I do so though. This has to take place before I make further design changes. My current one is just one in thousands.

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Hi Peter,

No I haven't. I did some thinking and decided to leave it as is, although I came up with a new design close to what I was looking for. I did contact Mike Law with some questions.

If you're thinking about it, talk to him, and he'll answer your questions. He provides the prices and everything you need to know on his website. He did tell me he's getting away from Joomla and will be using Wordpress from now on.

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Alan,

I was just saying the same thing about your site how great it looks. But you are right... Charles, your site is awesome! Good job!

Alan, I was just getting ready to ask you a question about your site, if it was a 2.0 or are those changes to your site on the original pips site?

But my real question was how did you make those changes? Did you do that yourself or had someone do it for you? I want to change the look of my site but not just the colors. I'd like to know how to add content, banners, graphics the whole 9 yards. Can you tell me where I can find that info? I didn't see it inside host4profit. And do I need to purchase any other programs to make those changes, besides a graphics program?

As for making my own changes, I can't figure out how to use the host4profit control panel. Do you know how to use it? If so, where are the instructions??

If I do switch to say, WP, can host4profit still host it? I'm guessing yes. that may be a dumb question but since I'm hear and I don't know I just thought I'd ask?

Any information you have, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks! and sorry if I repeated myself some. I'm just in a hurry, it's after 4am and I got to get some zzz's. thanks again.

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My question... on where are the best instructions to learn how to make your own changes to your pips site is address to anyone on this thread.

I first addressed Alan and of course Alan if you know then by all means. But if anyone can point me in the right direction, again, I would appreciate it.

Thanks again!

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It's not a 2.0 site. I made the changes myself using a modified HTML template I found online. It looks similar to my WP blog, which was the intention. So yes, you can host WP on Host4Profit. Many people here do.

To make changes to your site, you first have to log in to your Host4Profit web panel. Once there you will want to go to File Manager. There you will see an entire list of every page on your site.

To edit a page, right-click on the far right icon that is to edit that page. This will open the source code for that page. Copy and paste the entire code into an HTML editor. You can grab one for free at Nvu - Download. I use Microsoft FrontPage.

You will be able to make any changes you want. Add content, banners and whatever else you would like to do. Once done you can just copy and paste that code back into the source code for the page in your File Manager.

Hope that helps, and if you have any more questions feel free to ask.

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Alan,

I was just saying the same thing about your site how great it looks. But you are right... Charles, your site is awesome! Good job!

Alan, I was just getting ready to ask you a question about your site, if it was a 2.0 or are those changes to your site on the original pips site?

But my real question was how did you make those changes? Did you do that yourself or had someone do it for you? I want to change the look of my site but not just the colors. I'd like to know how to add content, banners, graphics the whole 9 yards. Can you tell me where I can find that info? I didn't see it inside host4profit. And do I need to purchase any other programs to make those changes, besides a graphics program?

As for making my own changes, I can't figure out how to use the host4profit control panel. Do you know how to use it? If so, where are the instructions??

If I do switch to say, WP, can host4profit still host it? I'm guessing yes. that may be a dumb question but since I'm hear and I don't know I just thought I'd ask?

Any information you have, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks! and sorry if I repeated myself some. I'm just in a hurry, it's after 4am and I got to get some zzz's. thanks again.

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I just wanted to say a big Thanks... Unfortunately, I must hurry...gotta go to my day job but in any event... THANKS!

I'll let u know if i have any other questions. but that looked like the easiest instructions Ive seen & i've been looking for awhile.

too bad i didn't join this forum when i was 1st instructed to do so...would have saved my self a lot of wasted time, money & energy.

hummm....don't i shouldn't give this idea away but that gives me something i could start my blog off with....

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Sure thing. You'll benefit greatly by being an active member here. Everyone is so eager to help and answer any of your questions.

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I just wanted to say a big Thanks... Unfortunately, I must hurry...gotta go to my day job but in any event... THANKS!

I'll let u know if i have any other questions. but that looked like the easiest instructions Ive seen & i've been looking for awhile.

too bad i didn't join this forum when i was 1st instructed to do so...would have saved my self a lot of wasted time, money & energy.

hummm....don't i shouldn't give this idea away but that gives me something i could start my blog off with....

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Hi Alan,

I should really add "PIPS 2.0" to my Google Alerts so I can keep up to date with posts like this as I have only just noticed it.

Just to clear a few things up I will still be offering the Joomla version however it will only be recommended for people with reasonable technical knowledge and who have time or are prepared to spend the time to learn how it works.

I may even add a little questionnaire to my site to help people decide if they should go for the Wordpress or the Joomla version.

I will also add a full list of features comparing both the Joomla and Wordpress version this weekend for those interested.

Prices are:
Joomla with blog : $197
Joomla without blog: $157
Wordpress: $97

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Hi Mike,

Google Alerts is a lifesaver.

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Hi Mike
looking forward to your further posting on the pips forum especially glad you will continue offering support for joomla in whichever form

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Hi Alan,

I should really add "PIPS 2.0" to my Google Alerts so I can keep up to date with posts like this as I have only just noticed it.

Just to clear a few things up I will still be offering the Joomla version however it will only be recommended for people with reasonable technical knowledge and who have time or are prepared to spend the time to learn how it works.

I may even add a little questionnaire to my site to help people decide if they should go for the Wordpress or the Joomla version.

I will also add a full list of features comparing both the Joomla and Wordpress version this weekend for those interested.

Prices are:
Joomla with blog : $197
Joomla without blog: $157
Wordpress: $97

Cheers,
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Hi Mike,

I am interested in converting my PIPS site to PIPS 2.0. I was just checking out your site linked in your signature file: What is PIPS 2.0.?

Nice...very nice. I love the look and feel of that site, not to mention ALL the easy to understand features and benefits.

I've been wanting to make changes to my site for some time now, but like you said, to add a simple banner for example, you would have to download every single page on your site and one at a time add the code for the banner and then one at a time re-upload them.

Sounds very time consuming. Something (time) I really don't have. Not a lot of it anyway. Alan had tried to help me but I didn't get very far. In fact I came back here to find out more when I saw your post.

Don't get me wrong about the time factor...I am very dedicated and determined to get my business off the ground even if it's only a few hours a day I have to work on it. Plus all day every weekend until I see results.

You don't know me but I can tell you this much... I've hit a LOT of brick walls in the last 8-9 months in my quest to learn about Internet Marketing, but one thing is for sure. They (whoever they are?) can knock me down but I WILL get up again! I refuse to quit because quitting is not an option! If learning from our mistakes makes us better at what we do then I'm going to be really good at this!
(I just needed to say that. I like the way it makes me feel when I do! :p)

No seriously, recently, I've been trying to learn all things regarding: article marketing and links, what are they good for and so on. I have a basic understanding of HTML but only if it's a copy and paste a code from here to there. I do know meta tags, meta description etc.

Actually, I wonder where I stand on a scale of understanding basic HTML?

I say that because of your comment on who should use Joomla vs WordPress. I didn't see the questionnaire to help people decide if they should go for the Wordpress or the Joomla version. But I was in a hurry to get back here in order to write this post. I'll go back and check it out.

Hopefully, upgrading to a 2.0. site and by adding content and all the things necessary to start generating (free) traffic will help me reach my goals before too much longer.

Well, I'm heading back over to your site now to click on that order button.

Thanks again and I guess I'll be seeing you later!

Have a nice day!

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Alan, you have so much going on on your site it would be hard to "convert" it to WordPress and I probably wouldn't even try to do it. You could move the current WordPress blog to the main domain but then the big issue is with the URLs or permalinks.

All the other pages on the site could remain and coexist with WordPress but if you want to change all the other pages to WordPress pages you would need to manually build them in WordPress. But they would be new URLs and if you didn't want to loose the backlinks to the old pages you would need to create redirects for all of them.

Then there is the Blogger blog you mentioned and that is just another variable to add to it.

I normally charge $60 to convert a brand new PIPs site to WordPress (with no additional pages on it) but yours would take hours and hours to tackle.

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Alan, you have so much going on on your site it would be hard to "convert" it to WordPress and I probably wouldn't even try to do it. You could move the current WordPress blog to the main domain but then the big issue is with the URLs or permalinks.

All the other pages on the site could remain and coexist with WordPress but if you want to change all the other pages to WordPress pages you would need to manually build them in WordPress. But they would be new URLs and if you didn't want to loose the backlinks to the old pages you would need to create redirects for all of them.

Then there is the Blogger blog you mentioned and that is just another variable to add to it.

I normally charge $60 to convert a brand new PIPs site to WordPress (with no additional pages on it) but yours would take hours and hours to tackle.
Houdy, thanks for the input. I had decided not to, for many reasons including the ones you mentioned. I'm making my own changes to the site, which I think are turning out fairly well.

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Alan I did a similar thing to my PIPS site, I added a bunch of pages, got a Mega upgrade then manually changed each page to a new template. Even after I learned as much as I have about WordPress it still remains a static HTML site. I just don't have the ambition or time to convert it. I would guess it would take me about 50 hours possibly more.

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Alan I did a similar thing to my PIPS site, I added a bunch of pages, got a Mega upgrade then manually changed each page to a new template. Even after I learned as much as I have about WordPress it still remains a static HTML site. I just don't have the ambition or time to convert it. I would guess it would take me about 50 hours possibly more.
I guess no matter how you look at it it's going to take a lot of time to convert the pages in one form or another. I've spent hours already changing each page. I do like my new template, though. You live and learn, and this is part of the learning process.

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You could just install Wordpress on a sub domain and copy your content over bit by bit. Once it is ready to go just move it to your main site. The Wordpress PIPS 2.0 site I am working on has all of the Mega Site content plus additional pages which I have added and it hasn't taken me that long to do.

However it is important not to get Wordpress just for the sake of getting Wordpress. If you aren't going to be adding that much content to your site and don't plan on making a lot of changes to content in your header/sidebar/footer etc then there is probably not that much point in getting a Wordpress site.
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I already have WP on a sub directoy that I use for my main blog. I use that to add content to my site. At this point there's no need to have WP on my main domain. Starting a new site, though, I definitely will.

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What are the best and must have WP plugins to get if youre going to make WP a stand alone website?

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If you mean looking more like a standard web site rather than just a blog, I don't think there are that many plug-ins as such, it's more to do with the theme you use. You need quite an advanced theme, usually the magazine type themes are quite good, not that there is anything wrong with it looking just like a blog as it's more about the content you provide rather than how it is presented.

You can also create a customized home page which displays the content however you want it to appear but you have to be pretty knowledgeable with PHP. Also using widgets throughout the theme give you a lot of additional places to add content nice and easily.

There are quite a few Wordpress theme clubs where you can buy some really nice themes at an affordable price.

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You know Mike I was just thinking about that. Remember when you took my 3rd site which is on a subdomain and has the standard PIPS template and made it a WP site?

Or am I mixing metaphors and it was only the feed from the blog which is actually the only piece on WP? (I was going to mention this ability, but wasn't sure how you pulled that off!)?

I am referring to
http://plug-in-profit-site.the3rdpartynetx.com

Note: It had a 3rd blog, but I determined I am unable to keep up with so many blogs, so I changed the link to feed from my #2 blog on the3rdpartynetx.com

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You can convert any template into a Wordpress theme quite easily. You just strip the template down and add the Wordpress code which dynamically inserts all of the content. You can get the code from a basic template, however you do still need to add quite a bit of CSS styling to make it look nice. I usually just copy pieces of CSS code from other sites. Notice I say pieces of code, you will probably get in trouble if you go copying full stylesheets from other sites, even though it probably happens all the time anyway.

I think you might be referring to using CARP (I think that is what I used) to display your RSS feed on your page. I had a post on the old forum showing how to use that. You can get quite creative with how you display feeds on your site.

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I see said the blind man. well i know that the Powerblog is done in Carp and you moved that over quite nicely

- under that is a feed from my blog on Wordpress.

You did a nice job and I still love the look of that standard PIPS plus color Darrin installed for me, prior to you converting it to Wordpress - if it is, but I am still not clear on that.

I know what we talked about was making it a WP site.

Still confused.

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Thanks Mike you just about answered question, i was think themes while i was writing, you've just confirmed it thanks again

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