Is it really worth it?

[omarfi]

Ok, I'm getting extremely suspicious to all this!

My name is Omar, and I'm from Manchester. I joined PIPS 5 days ago. However PIPS is not my first online "money making methods". I have tried various and failed. I don't really know why I chose to get on with PIPS but I did. The way MR Stone described the whole thing on the plugandprofitsite was different from all others, so it made me go ahead with it. But now I start feeling I did wrong. And maybe I want to refund all my memberships and close my account.
There are several reasons:

No subscribers
No registrations
No earnings
(and who knows, maybe no visitors either)

I have already spent over $ 170 , and in return I have only got one website and a 30 days training course THAT ASKS ME TO SPEND EVEN MORE, in order to marketing my site. I don't know what is coming further in this course, but as far as I have read (5 days) it has barely told me one way to marketing my site for free, otherwise I need to buy this and that.

So, what I'm wondering is; what about all of you. Are you all satisfied and enjoying? Are you REALLY making some money? What methods have you used for marketing you sites? Do u think I'm just too impatient and need to give it a bit more time?
Should I really keep my account??

I appreciate good advices

Thanks
Omar Farooq
Proven Home Business and Work at Home Ideas and Opportunities

[Malcolm Tindle]

Hi Omar,

I am not saying my advice is the best but I can only speak for myself, that is to go thru the whole 30 days training then read it again and implement the free things if you are on a low budget or maybe just cautious.

Set up your blog (free), write articles and submit them to directories (free), get into social networking (free), try classified ads and offline advertising and when you get a bit of experience you can then spend a little on direct advertising if you want to but Stone is giving you ideas on what you can do, he is not saying you must do all the things in the training.

Give yourself some time to get your head around it all then when you are ready you can get started with confidence,


Mal.

[Jeff Casmer]

Well.....5 days is nothing........

However you should be careful what you spend and how you spend it....

Take care
Jeff Casmer

[Patrician]

First of all you are NOT being 'TOLD TO SPEND MONEY'. Optional recommendations are being made and it is up to you if you buy them or not. Set a budget you can afford and stick to it. The thing is don't skip the training - just skip the buy part if you don't want to buy it.

I am sorry if you expected something that does not exist - a get rich quick overnight with no work scheme.

This program is to teach you how to start and build a new business on the internet. There is a learning curve and as with ALL MARKETING you need time to build momentum by consistently and aggressively promoting your site.

If you are serious about wanting to have an internet business then I hope you will stick to this long enough to see the results that can be achieved with work.

[Frank Tello]

Omar,

You are being too impatient. It takes time to build any type of business, go through the training program, build your business, implement what you learn and you will see results.

Best of Luck


Frank

[Matt Belock]

Omar,

How bad do you want it?

You have spent $170 on your business so far, many business owners invest over millions in their business without seeing return for 1 year sometimes more years. But they had a passion and the desire to succeed.

Yes I have invested money that I wish I could take back, but I dont regret it. It is a learning curve for me. I started 4 or 5 months ago and I have learned many things to improve myself and my business, and my light keeps getting brighter and brighter.

Im not a person that wants to work 9-5 the rest of my life with no job security. I want my own business and PIPS is the starting point from that. Your brain will only expand with PIPS, you will learn many different aspects that will help you venture out once you have achieved success.

No matter what business it is you get involved with, you must work hard. It is not back breaking work that will destroy you. There is money to be made on the internet. I too joined other opportunities, but I didn't get the support and training I get with PIPS. Everything mentioned from Stone are things he has used. All of those suggestions he has made can be implemented when you start making money.

Try to look deep into your future and see where you will be 5 years from now working your current job, then look deep and see where you can be 5 years from now working hard at your PIPS business.

[tplahav]

Hi Omar,
You chose PIPS because it's different, PIPS is not a get rich quick program and it does work, but like any other business it takes time.

It us up to you how much you spend, make a budget and only purchase what you can afford.
As a member of the PPG I can tell you our mentors help us to make money with PIPS with minimum cost, and since I joined I learned how to use the free methods the best way.

Tanny

[Dele]

Hi Omar,

You first of all have to settle some things within you before you can know which way to go.

Are you looking for a "get rich quick scheme" and cannot afford to spend TIME - at least some months, may be longer, working your business before positive results start pouring in? If your answer is YES, then I will advise you to get out fast.

Are you looking for an online business that WILL EVENTUALLY SUCCEED if you are willing to put in the hard work required and are willing to spend some TIME working at it, then you should stay on.

If you choose to stay on, will you honestly work hard - reading, browsing the forum, taking consistent action... and not just wait for the 6 months "GOLDEN TIME" for you to be handed the "accidental wealth package" on a platter of gold?

If statistics say between 3% to 5% of those who venture into Internet Marketing eventually succeed, do you then expect it to be " a walk over" ?

If it is the money aspect, do you at least have about $40 to spend consistently on your hosting and autoresponder for about 6 months before you start seeing results? If the answer is NO, you may as well get out fast. If the answer is YES, forget other spendings for now and be in close touch with this forum for guidance. Keep LEARNING to EARN in a FREE way.

I have even seen other members offer very "unbelievable" assistance to each other on this forum where finance is the constraint. A Wordpress blog, fully monetised, has been built FREE OF CHARGE without any strings attached for a fellow PIPSTER. Various useful additions to website have occasionally been done for fellow pipsters FREE OF CHARGE.

I have been in and out of PIPS before, though not for your own reasons and having transversed the Internet, nowhere have I found such excellent training and support as is available in PIPS. Also what with the PPG which even though I am not yet a member of, I know is also a good support to PIPS.

What PIPS does is to transform you into a TOTAL INTERNET MARKETER who can hold his own anywhere on the net and not hand over an "accidental wealth package" to you which you may not be able to sustain once that program packs up.

In summary, you get real training here at its best and you go create wealth with it.

I think this type of frustration results from you being lured? in through UNTARGETED ADVERTISING just for the purpose of making sales and certainly cannot last.

[Alex Gorbachev]

Hello Omar!

I think you got more than the website and "30 days to Success Guide".I consider that the guide alone is worth my money. This is what made me meet wonderful and interesting people and this what I want to do with my future.
But don’t get me wrong, this isn’t easy stuff, you have to work for it! In fact, if you’re willing to invest yourself into this.

Not everyone makes a profit.

Honestly, with all the business opportunities you see on the internet, can you tell me about one that has 100% success? I didn't think so. PIPS is no different. Here are a few reasons I can think of that people fail with PIPS:

They simply give up before they have a chance to succeed.

Lack of promotion of their business.

They think that they can just wait for their success without doing anything to help their business.

The problem is that a lot of people join PIPS and then don't want to do ANYTHING to promote their site. So even though there are built-in advertising opportunities that can do 99.9% of the work for you, some people just won't do it. As the old saying goes: "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

How much time you put in everyday will answer this question for you. Build you business up everyday and you will start to see the money coming in.


To Your Success,

Alexander

[Cynthia Minnaar]

Hi Omar

In answer to your question - yes, you are being impatient!

You have received some great advice to far from fellow PIPS members.

You can build this business with the free methods that are outlined in the training e.g.. set up a blog, article marketing, blogging, social bookmarking, submitting your site to online directories, etc.

Just take the time to learn and dedicate time on a daily basis to build your business.

Cheers for now
Cyn

[ibuildlinks]

Sorry for sounding silly... but can anyone please inform me on what "PIPS" is about?

[Kym Robinson]

Hear Hear to all the above!

If you are not in it for the long haul - you may as well go buy a lotto ticket and take your chances on that instead! I know which one I would put money on!

YES! you are being impatient!
5 days is nothing........how many hours have you put in across those 5 days?
Consistent action every day is what it takes! Good Luck to you - Kym

[Dele]

Originally posted by ibuildlinks
Sorry for sounding silly... but can anyone please inform me on what "PIPS" is about?

PIPS is a complete home based business opportunity which comes with its own website included in which is a subset(numbered about 6) different home businesses with actual product/service to sell. These home businesses include

Empowerism
Host4Profit
Success University
Leisure Audio Books
Traffic Swarm
SFI

You are able to adjust the website by including other opportunities if you so wish and the main advantage of this "in a box" is the synergy generated.

Checking statistics, you will observe that the top sponsors of this individual programs are indeed PIPs members, saying the program is achieving its objective.

In my opinion, what is outstanding about PIPS is the excellent support and training you get to promote these home businesses "all in a box".

No doubt, Internet marketing is not child's play given statistics which shows that only bewteen 3% to 5% of those who venture into it actually succeed in this business.

The more reason why one needs such an excellent support to be able to "weather the storm".

What is further good about the system is that over time, members of PIPS who have achieved success with the system and are now profitably running their own home businesses full time are still very much around in this forum and have undertaken to train new entrants( no ex-gratia -at a fee) and reducing their learning curve through the benefit of their own experiences. This group is called the PIPS Power Group and is not otherwise in anyway directly a part of PIPS.

[Alan Thomas]

Hi Omar,

You are certainly being impatient, but that's understandable. What you must understand is that PIPS is definitely not a get rich quick scheme, it is a genuine business opportunity that will reward you handsomely if you apply yourself, learn how to promote your new website, and invest time and effort into growing your business.

The best advice I got was to read through the 30 day plan twice, get a feel for how things work, and only then decide to invest any more money.

There are plenty of free methods to promote your site, blogging , article marketing, forum posting, traffic exchanges, optimizing your site for keywords.

But don't give up after 5 days! If you do that you will give up all your hopes to improve your financial situation.

Have patience my friend, and do something every day to improve and build your business. Over the coming months you will see great results if you take persistent, focused action.

Good luck whatever you decide to do.

Alan Thomas

[Stephen Meyer]

Every time some one ask me is it worth it I say No.................Wait.....make that, every time some one ask if it's easy I say NO.....Wait, everytime some one ask if it's free I say NO...and...every time some one ask if they can make a lot of money at it I say YES, if you are wiling to work at it.

You will have to spend some money, it's part of the deal. But you don't have to spend it right now. Once you figure out exactly how you want to market your business the tools to do it might cost a little money. Actually, I don't know of anyone successful or working really hard at it who doesn't spend a little money on the tools they need to make their job easier and more efficient.

The key is to make a business plan that includes how you plan to market your business and stick to it. Then only buy what fits into YOUR plan. Don't just buy stuff because it was suggested.

[Asher]

Hi Omar,

In summary to all the posts:

1. This is a real business
2. This is NOT a get-rich-quick scheme
3. There's a learning curve involved
4. Come on, honestly, did you expect to make HUGE money in 5 days? Be realistic.
5. Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want - so learn from it and improve.

Hope that helped a bit.

Asher

[TShooter]

Hi Omar .... I'll try to make this brief. Not too long ago I started a Communications Business. I actually invested a good portion of my retirement into it. I had to acquire a business name, advertise it and acquire an inventory of products in which to market. I had to try for a internet presence and pay for web designing, purchase a vehicle (including insurance and bonding). I could go on and on, but bottom line is Invested about $95,000 into a business that went belly up within 3years. It was very disappointing .... but life goes. I have tried a great deal of other opportunities to no avail (Amway, Herbalife, Pre Paid Legal ... etc.). In short I have always been looking for a business in which to invest my money and time. I was approached with PIPS .... I researched it .... I liked it. I read a lot of negatives .... but it still looked good to me. I joined and then I joined this site and started learning. I won't let anyone discourage me nor will I turn around .... the investment is minimal and you get the best support in the world (versus going it alone). So tighten your belt, take a deep breath and commit to your business and to yourself. I have a real good feeling about PIPS .... Oh ... and by the way .... Welcome aboard. Dang .... I've said too much ... (ok, back to under the radar).

[inasmit]

Hi Omar

I'm sure you've already gotten more than you bargained for by asking that question, so I'll just say that what doesn't kill you will make you stronger. PIPS will definitely not kill you.

Decide if you're willing to work for it and how much you're willing to put in (I'm not talking about money)

Ina

[Patrician]

Hey PIPS Warriors!

Just wanted to say I love this when we all get together like this - a chain reaction!

Don't expect any bouquets because sometimes they say we are 'brain washed' idiots! LOLOLOL pass the koolaid.

Seriously, this is a great opportunity to get experience in articulating your belief and faith in PIPS, so even if the complainer doesn't appreciate it, it's still good!

However, having said that I do hope that it IS appreciated and that the person will join this wonderful team and not feel like we are ganging up on them!

In other words, 'if you can't beat them, join them!'

THANK YOU!

[Nial Robbins]

Hi Omar,

If you are real serious about making your PIPS business work for you, I have one suggestion. Check out the PIPS Power Group and receive the needed mentorship to succeed.

However, all the advice you have received so far will still stand. You will need to work daily and this is not a get rich quick system.

Nial

[Suzanne Morrison]

Hi Omar,

If you are going to be successful with PIPS or any other online business for that matter you need to


- not expect instant gratification. Success after 5 months is more likely that success after 5 days
- spend time promoting your website
- Persevere
- Stick to a budget that you can afford


Most of the people in this forum who are successful with PIPS are successful because they stuck at it and worked hard. If I had given up after a few days I wouldn't be where I was today (working full time from home, earning a full time income on the internet). It took me around 4-5 months till I started seeing a profit, but I am glad I waited.

Cheers,
Suzanne

[Belinda Wilson]

Hi Omar,

I do not regret starting my PIPS business. It is something I can build and take pride in. You have done the right thing my expressing your concerns in the forum as you will get very honest responses. 5 Days is nothing when you are building a business. My advice is to read the 30 days training without spending anything, take notes and then come here and ask your questions. That is the advice I got and I'm greatful to the great people in this forum for giving it to me. I saved a lot of money and found the ways to promote my site for free. Of course, like any business, expenses are a given but you just need to stick to a budget and decide where your money is best spent. Give it time and be patient.

Belinda

[vorales]

Hi Omar,

I am new in PIPS and haven't make any sales. To me it is worth it to join PIPS. Before this I know nothing about making money online but since I joined PIPS I know what it is making money online. All this are given and explain in 30 days guide. You are lucky as you had just spent $170 and you had joined this FORUM and get the advise. I had spent much more than you, I had paid for GetResponse, GetSubscribers, Adminder, PBL, DOE, SEO and add contents. Not inlcuding SU and Host4Profit. The mistake that I had done was I was late to come to FORUM. If I had come earlier like you, I won't have to spend that much money. But still I am not give up but I will get more advise from the members in this FORUM.

[Ping Liang]

Vorales is right. I am new to PIPS, too. I signed up to it 2 weeks ago. And after 1 week with it, I was too frustrated not only because I bought PIPS co-op, GetResponse, GetSubscriber, adminder special visitors, and signed up with Success University premium membership, that's a lot of money for me, but also because this is my very first business, online and offline together. I thought about it all day and all night. I even dreamt about it and tried to figure out how to promote my business in my dreams. What I did everyday was calculating how much money I had spent and how much money I was going to spend.

At that time after 1 week, I thought it would be my time to quit. I just couldn't bare it any more. I didn't know what I was going to do with it. I even closed some of my membership.

However, on the morning of the following day, it suddenly occurred to me: No, I will stick with it and make it success.

You may not succeed. But if you give up, you even lose the opportunity to fail.

With that said, what I should have done is that I should have come to this forum a little bit earlier. I believe if I did, I would have benefited much besides saving some money.

[luckystar]

Hello,
I am making this point for the second time. Leading the new PIP members to the forum should be the first thing in the success guide. Because a lot of Pitfalls could be avoided if one finds himself in the forum.

Omar, Do it with passion. 5 days is too small for any type of business to yield anything.
The internet biz is a game of traffic, so try to generate traffic and fall back for your returns.

What Stone is saying about his earnings is true but check how many years ago he started. So let learn from him. With time your earnings will look as if you never worked for it because you will at the endless recieving end.

[Jeff Schuman]

You can not get half pregnant. Same with an internet business. It is all or nothing. The key is if you are going to quit you do it before you waste anymore money.

[Gunther69]

Omar, what you are seeing on this page is very special in the internet business game. A group of people all defending the same program. Some are making money right now and some are not. Before I joined this program I saw several other programs being bashed by former members, but not this one.
As for me, after a month of working the PIPS program I'm still not making a bucket full of cash, I get a sign up here and there. But I am seeing my business grow. I see my articles being published, my blog being read and my business name coming up on Google. My traffic is increasing every week. It's a cool feeling to know that I did that with the support of my fellow Pipsters.
Just remember this business has the snowball affect. Keep working at it and the snowball will keep getting bigger and going faster. Good luck to you, Tim.

[briley knox]

I hear this all the time Newbie's not giving the program a chance to work. You dont have to buy everything in the program to make it work for you, but you do have to spend some money.
(It take money to make money). Give the program a chance it's work's!