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Old 01-20-2010, 11:36 PM   #1
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Anyone know if there is an existing script out there right now that after payment made by the customer, the system will automatically send the commission of the affiliate member trough paypal?

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Old 01-21-2010, 07:51 PM   #2
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Anyone know if there is an existing script out there right now that after payment made by the customer, the system will automatically send the commission of the affiliate member trough paypal?
I don't know if there any any pre-built scripts for this, but here's how it's done.

Split and Chained – Looking at Paypal Adaptive Payments • Tim Nash “stuff” Blog

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Old 01-25-2010, 08:27 AM   #3
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That is risky, what do you do about chargebacks/fraud? There is a reason why most affiliate programs have a delay in payment.

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That is risky, what do you do about chargebacks/fraud? There is a reason why most affiliate programs have a delay in payment.
Yes I understand that, but what I want to do is the payment should be made first to the affiliate email address before sending to me my share.

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Old 01-26-2010, 08:20 AM   #5
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Traditionally, when you charge someone for a product the money goes to your Paypal account, then you pay the affiliate 30 days later. During that delay time you have a period of time that if someone did creditcard fraud they would take the funds back out of your paypal account. If you pay the affiliate as soon as the transaction is complete, if there is fraud, the whole amount is going to come back out of your paypal account. It's not save to do IMO. But if you still want to do it, the lisag's suggestion is the best i've found for what you want. I would strongly suggest not doing it. I've had enough fraudulent charges in the past that if I did that I would have gone broke. Paypal is on the end users side not yours as a merchant, so if the customer wants there money back, chances are they will get it.

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Old 01-26-2010, 09:31 AM   #6
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I don't know if there any any pre-built scripts for this, but here's how it's done.

Split and Chained – Looking at Paypal Adaptive Payments • Tim Nash “stuff” Blog

Thanks lisag for the link, yes this is the one I am looking.... anyone can suggest a developer that can do this or a product that already out there.

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Old 01-26-2010, 10:51 AM   #8
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thanks for the link, does the script open source?

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That is risky, what do you do about chargebacks/fraud? There is a reason why most affiliate programs have a delay in payment.
Yes - there is.

Here it is (IMHO):

The first affiliate program with any kind of affiliate fraud/chargeack protection used delayed affiliate payments to help eliminate the problem. It was a very logical - but fairly complex solution.
...and not fool-proof.

Rather than show a little innovation... most other affiliate programs just followed suit, and adopted a solution that someone else had already figured out.

I've been paying instant commissions for over two years (in fact, Allen Says just got a $197 instant payment through my affiliate program today), and have experienced only one chargeback situation that cost me anything at all.

I won't take credit for the innovation - I adopted/adapted my solution from a technique developed by Jon Ledger (and his customers have been using this even longer than mine).

There are thousands of others with similar experience, and instant commissions gives them a leg up when it comes to affiliate recruitment.

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Old 01-26-2010, 09:25 PM   #10
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This wouldn't be advised due to fraud.
What wouldn't be advised?

Does "This" refer to the original post? - the one immediately preceding your own? - or one of the others?

What is "This"?

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This wouldn't be advised due to fraud.
In my opinion this is safer than the old affiliate payment style (delay for a period of time). Because if the prospect customer issue a refund both party need to refund the money directly to the customer.

Unlike the old days.

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RAP looks great and is very credible - however, we only need the instant affiliate payment aspect of it and only for a few week while doing a short beta before migrating our affiliate program to clickbank, so we can't really justify the cost...

Does anyone know of a solution as well done that allows us to purchase the script for instant affiliate payments in safe way without buying a whole suite of tools we don't need?
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Old 10-17-2011, 04:32 AM   #13
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looks like the split and chained thing offered by paypal should work, since they plit the payments to you and affiliates, so refunds would also withdraw from both?

Anyone with experience with that or other ideas?

Gotta admit I didn't search forum for that yet, will do now...
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I use idev-Affiliates I had a little issue setting it up but that was to do with my system setup and not the script, very simple to use and will integrate with paypal shopping systems of simple paypal buy now buttons

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Old 10-17-2011, 05:26 AM   #15
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great, thank you for sharing, will check it out!
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Anyone know if there is an existing script out there right now that after payment made by the customer, the system will automatically send the commission of the affiliate member trough paypal?
use the PayPal Adaptive Payments API
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:59 PM   #17
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thank you, looking into it
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Old 10-18-2011, 08:24 PM   #18
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Easy to say...

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use the PayPal Adaptive Payments API
but requires a script to "talk" to the API. It's not just a matter of generating a "Buy Now" button.

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Hi Michael,

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RAP looks great and is very credible - however, we only need the instant affiliate payment aspect of it and only for a few week while doing a short beta before migrating our affiliate program to clickbank, so we can't really justify the cost...
How does testing one payment method, affiliate mangement, etc. constitute a valid "beta" when your intent is to subsequently migrate to clickbank?

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Does anyone know of a solution as well done that allows us to purchase the script for instant affiliate payments in safe way without buying a whole suite of tools we don't need?
Maybe it's clickbank that you don't need.

What do they bring to your marketing plan, that isn't readily available using RAP? Assuming that affiliates, and instant payment to those affiliates are critical to your plans (since you felt a need to include those in your "beta"), why would you then abandon that group of affiliates, and revert to a delayed compensation program for a whole new set of affiliates?

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Old 10-18-2011, 08:39 PM   #20
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thank you Sid, luckily I got a great webmaster to handle that...
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